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Re: Bluetooth speakers with Windows

Kevin Cussick
 

Yes correct. OK then now what.

On 09/05/2021 22:21, Gene wrote:
Since neither add-on solves the problem, I am suspicious that the problem isn’t the usual one. Anything that keeps the sound card active, such as Silenzio, as I understand it, should solve the problem and I would expect the Add-on Brian referenced to solve it as well.
We need more information. does the problem occur when and only when there has been no audio for a time or does it occur at other times? We assumed the problem occurred after a period of no audio but since the expected solutions don’t work, we have to see if our assumptions are correct.
Gene
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From: Kevin Cussick via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2021 4:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Bluetooth speakers with Windows
that did not work for me either.
On 09/05/2021 11:31, Steve Nutt wrote:
No, but I think Silenzio will. That add-on is not great, I tested it.

All the best

Steve

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via groups.io
Sent: 08 May 2021 23:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Bluetooth speakers with Windows

well for me this addon did not fix the blue tooth audio cutting off words.

On 08/05/2021 15:14, Brian Vogel wrote:
Because of how Windows handles power management (and sleeping) for
Bluetooth. There's actually an add-on to address this issue:


BluetoothAudio
<https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/BluetoothAudio.en.html>

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Re: Bluetooth speakers with Windows

Gene
 

Since neither add-on solves the problem, I am suspicious that the problem isn’t the usual one.  Anything that keeps the sound card active, such as Silenzio, as I understand it, should solve the problem and I would expect the Add-on Brian referenced to solve it as well.
 
We need more information.  does the problem occur when and only when there has been no audio for a time or does it occur at other times?  We assumed the problem occurred after a period of no audio but since the expected solutions don’t work, we have to see if our assumptions are correct.
 
Gene

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Bluetooth speakers with Windows
 
that did not work for me either.

On 09/05/2021 11:31, Steve Nutt wrote:
> No, but I think Silenzio will.  That add-on is not great, I tested it.
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> well for me this addon did not fix the blue tooth audio cutting off words.
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> On 08/05/2021 15:14, Brian Vogel wrote:
>> Because of how Windows handles power management (and sleeping) for
>> Bluetooth.  There's actually an add-on to address this issue:
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>>    BluetoothAudio
>>    <https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/BluetoothAudio.en.html>
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Re: Bluetooth speakers with Windows

Kevin Cussick
 

that did not work for me either.

On 09/05/2021 11:31, Steve Nutt wrote:
No, but I think Silenzio will. That add-on is not great, I tested it.
All the best
Steve
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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via groups.io
Sent: 08 May 2021 23:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Bluetooth speakers with Windows
well for me this addon did not fix the blue tooth audio cutting off words.
On 08/05/2021 15:14, Brian Vogel wrote:
Because of how Windows handles power management (and sleeping) for
Bluetooth. There's actually an add-on to address this issue:


BluetoothAudio
<https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/BluetoothAudio.en.html>

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Re: Enquiry about add-ons for Audio Production Software

Gene
 

It isn’t clear how you intend to record.  Are you recording content the computer is playing such as from a web stream or are you recording from something else like a cable television connected to the line-in jack of your computer?
 
We can’t advise on the best way to do what you want to do without knowing that.   
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2021 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Enquiry about add-ons for Audio Production Software
 

I am interested in learning how to record shows like 48 hours from this computer. I thought I had to use Reaper. Someone told me if you record from the PC it does pick up the screen reader weather you use JAWS, NVDA etc. but with a Mac you don’t pick up the screen reader when using Audio High Jack that the Mac uses.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris Smart
Sent: May 9, 2021 10:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Enquiry about add-ons for Audio Production Software

 

 

On 2021-05-09 1:49 p.m., Arlene wrote:

Hi, Does Reaper pick up NVDA while using it to record shows? 

 

That all depends on which audio device you are recording through, how you have things routed etc. If you want to do something simple like record a show, you probably don't need Reaper.

 

 

Does it matter how fast your prosessor works while using Reaper? 

Again, for doing what? Playing back a 100+ track project with lots of virtual instruments and effects processing? Yes. For recording a single thing onto one track, no.

 

 


Re: Bluetooth speakers with Windows

Martin Courcelles
 

The ones I use for keeping the Bluetooth sound going is either: SPDIF KeepAlive, found here:

SPDIF KeepAlive for Home Theatre PC - Rhys Goodwin's Weblog

Or the SoundKeeper tool, which he suggested in his blog at:

SPDIF/HDMI Sound Keeper v1.1.0 [2020/07/18] — VEG's Blog

 

Cheers,

Martin

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: May 8, 2021 6:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Bluetooth speakers with Windows

 

I don’t recall if anyone sent a link for Silenzio.  Here is a Jonathan Mosen discussion of the problem which includes a link.

 

If you don’t want to read the article, search the page for Silenzio and you will get to the discussion of it.

 

Gene

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Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2021 5:01 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Bluetooth speakers with Windows

 

well for me this addon did not fix the blue tooth audio cutting off words.

On 08/05/2021 15:14, Brian Vogel wrote:
> Because of how Windows handles power management (and sleeping) for
> Bluetooth.  There's actually an add-on to address this issue:
>
>
>   BluetoothAudio
>   <https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/BluetoothAudio.en.html>
>
> --
>
> Brian -Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042
>
> /Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win
> unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself./
>
>         ~ Richard M. Nixon
>
>




Re: Enquiry about add-ons for Audio Production Software

Arlene
 

I am interested in learning how to record shows like 48 hours from this computer. I thought I had to use Reaper. Someone told me if you record from the PC it does pick up the screen reader weather you use JAWS, NVDA etc. but with a Mac you don’t pick up the screen reader when using Audio High Jack that the Mac uses.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris Smart
Sent: May 9, 2021 10:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Enquiry about add-ons for Audio Production Software

 

 

On 2021-05-09 1:49 p.m., Arlene wrote:

Hi, Does Reaper pick up NVDA while using it to record shows? 

 

That all depends on which audio device you are recording through, how you have things routed etc. If you want to do something simple like record a show, you probably don't need Reaper.

 

 

Does it matter how fast your prosessor works while using Reaper? 

Again, for doing what? Playing back a 100+ track project with lots of virtual instruments and effects processing? Yes. For recording a single thing onto one track, no.

 

 


Re: Enquiry about add-ons for Audio Production Software

Chris Smart
 


On 2021-05-09 1:49 p.m., Arlene wrote:

Hi, Does Reaper pick up NVDA while using it to record shows? 


That all depends on which audio device you are recording through, how you have things routed etc. If you want to do something simple like record a show, you probably don't need Reaper.



Does it matter how fast your prosessor works while using Reaper? 

Again, for doing what? Playing back a 100+ track project with lots of virtual instruments and effects processing? Yes. For recording a single thing onto one track, no.



Re: Enquiry about add-ons for Audio Production Software

Arlene
 

Hi, Does Reaper pick up NVDA while using it to record shows?  Does it matter how fast your prosessor works while using Reaper? 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: May 9, 2021 3:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Enquiry about add-ons for Audio Production Software

 

I was going to say, Reaper is one of the lightest audio production systems

in terms of resources, that I have used.  So if your computer takes that

long in Reaper, you won't have much success with any.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis

Sent: 09 May 2021 00:13

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Enquiry about add-ons for Audio Production Software

 

Charlie Dyasi wrote:

 

> Reaper, I have it installed on my laptop, but my laptop is so old, it

takes for ever just open up reaper at least in half an hour.

 

I suspect you will have that problem with any of the high-end audio

software. Even Audacity doesn't perform well on older machines, at least not

for transcoding or FX tasks.

I can't imagine that Protools will either; it has always been a resource

hog.

 

Luke

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Enquiry about add-ons for Audio Production Software

 

On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 06:33 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
So if your computer takes that long in Reaper, you won't have much success with any.
-
Which is a single example of the old saw, "You can't get blood from a stone."

As RAM and processing power got cheaper and cheaper, programs were designed to take advantage of having more RAM and processing power to play with.  Whether it so happens to be DAWs or anything else, you really cannot expect XP/Vista/very early Win7 eras of hardware to perform well with software that taxes them beyond their limits.

And even if the hardware is newer and up to the task, it still needs to have enough RAM to have breathing room.  I not infrequently see clients who have computers with 4GB of RAM trying to run Windows 10 and complaining that it's slow.  It will be slow, no question, with that little RAM.  And the older your processor is, the worse it's likely to get if you have insufficient RAM.

With everything, it's about fitting the tool to the task, and if you don't, you get anything from a suboptimal to just plain awful experience.
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Re: english Canadian pack

Martin Courcelles
 

No worries. I added the NVDA group, in case other folks are interested in adding voices. 

It’s in Windows 10.

Go under settings and search for text to speech. 

Then choose the Change text-to-speech settings”.

Under that choose “Add Voices”.

Under that, you will find all text to speech languages.

Cheers,

Mrtin

 

 

 

From: Anthony Borg <anthonyborg001@...>
Sent: May 9, 2021 8:37 AM
To: 'Martin Courcelles' <mcourcel@...>
Subject: english Canadian pack

 

Hi Martin

 

Sorry to troubling you, can you please tell me from where I can download that English Canadian pack and is it free?

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony


Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Steve Nutt
 

Oh wow, you're right.

I don't know if others are available though.

All the best

Steve

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Louise Pfau
Sent: 09 May 2021 02:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a couple questions sparked by recent topics

There are also SAPI 5 versions of "Microsoft david" and "Microsoft Zira (spelled Z I R A on my computer)" available by default on Windows 10. I wonder if other "Windows OneCore voices" like "Microsoft Richard" and "Microsoft Mark " are also available in SAPI 5 format.

Thanks,

Louise


Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Steve Nutt
 

Louise, as has been said before, you can't get those voices in SAPI form, they are only available as OneCore.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Louise Pfau
Sent: 09 May 2021 01:22
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Hi. I was thinking of getting more SAPI voices like the ones that come with Windows 10 by default. I think they are Microsoft David and Microsoft Zira.
Are there others in the same category?

Thanks,

Louise


Re: Enquiry about add-ons for Audio Production Software

Steve Nutt
 

I was going to say, Reaper is one of the lightest audio production systems
in terms of resources, that I have used. So if your computer takes that
long in Reaper, you won't have much success with any.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: 09 May 2021 00:13
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Enquiry about add-ons for Audio Production Software

Charlie Dyasi wrote:

Reaper, I have it installed on my laptop, but my laptop is so old, it
takes for ever just open up reaper at least in half an hour.

I suspect you will have that problem with any of the high-end audio
software. Even Audacity doesn't perform well on older machines, at least not
for transcoding or FX tasks.
I can't imagine that Protools will either; it has always been a resource
hog.

Luke


Re: Bluetooth speakers with Windows

Steve Nutt
 

No, but I think Silenzio will. That add-on is not great, I tested it.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via groups.io
Sent: 08 May 2021 23:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Bluetooth speakers with Windows

well for me this addon did not fix the blue tooth audio cutting off words.

On 08/05/2021 15:14, Brian Vogel wrote:
Because of how Windows handles power management (and sleeping) for
Bluetooth. There's actually an add-on to address this issue:


BluetoothAudio
<https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/BluetoothAudio.en.html>

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unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself./

~ Richard M. Nixon


Re: Enquiry about add-ons for Audio Production Software

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

I would say the most accessible DAW with NVDA, is Reaper.

Check out http://www.reaperaccessibility.com.

All the best

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Dyasi
Sent: 08 May 2021 22:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Enquiry about add-ons for Audio Production Software

Hello everyone, I just want to know if anyone has, or is there any add on for: ProTools on Windows, Abelson live, studio one, or any other recording software that producers are using out there?

I have a friend that wants to use machine, but Is struggling immensely to control the parameters of machine.

I would love to go back to my ProTools, because I have the license, and get myself immersed in everything about ProTools, but my only option seems to go only on the Mac.

I would really love to hear more about this if anyone can tell me about it, hope all of you have a lovely day.

Charlie
South Africa.


Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

 

which voices i recieve if i download your zip folder?
thanks and God bless you!

On 5/9/21, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi


I do not know what format speech platform voices are. I thought they
were sapi 5 but does not say.


I do have a complete package of them with other languages in a zip
format. but is about 400 meg.


They if i remember right have also the modern RH voices as well. You
will need a program like winrar or winzip to open then install from.


The link to this drop box account is
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9kh3aip9atldlho/synth%20packages.zip?dl=1
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/9kh3aip9atldlho/synth%20packages.zip?dl=1>


for the speech platform voices the runtime file must be installed first
all the rest are voices.


Gene nz


On 9/05/2021 1:28 pm, Louise Pfau wrote:
Rats. I like the quality of the Microsoft voices. I want to get a
few more of them in SAPI format if that's possible. I know that
"Windows OneCore" isn't the same thing.

Thanks,

Louise








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Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Luke Davis
 

Monte Single wrote:

I thought nvda used one core voices by default in win10.
You thought correctly, it does. But you can switch to SAPI5 if you have some reason to.

Luke


Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


I do not know what format speech platform voices are. I thought they were sapi 5 but does not say.


I do have a complete package of them with other languages in a zip format. but is about 400 meg.


They if i remember right have also the modern RH voices as well. You will need a program like winrar or winzip to open then install from.


The link to this drop box account is https://www.dropbox.com/s/9kh3aip9atldlho/synth%20packages.zip?dl=1 <https://www.dropbox.com/s/9kh3aip9atldlho/synth%20packages.zip?dl=1>


for the speech platform voices the runtime file must be installed first all the rest are voices.


Gene nz

On 9/05/2021 1:28 pm, Louise Pfau wrote:
Rats.  I like the quality of the Microsoft voices.  I want to get a few more of them in SAPI format if that's possible.  I know that "Windows OneCore" isn't the same thing.

Thanks,

Louise




Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Gene
 

As far as I know, One Core voices are the default in Windows 10.  But you can switch to Microsoft MSAPI 5 voices as I understand it, which are available and I think at least a small number are provided as a part of Windows 10 as installed. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2021 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a couple questions sparked by recent topics
 
Ha, ha, Luke,

That's pretty good,  I'm wrong two out of two.
I thought nvda used  one core voices by default in win10.
That's alright,  I like one core zara  and I guess I could choose a spai5
voice for  a particular profile.

Cheers,

Monte
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: May 8, 2021 6:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Monte Single wrote:

> I think the voices you mentioned are Micro Soft One Core voices that come
with win10.

Sorry Monte, but they are SAPI5 voices that come with Win 10.
You can confirm this by pressing NVDA+Control+s, changing your synth to
SAPI5, and pressing OK.
Then pressing NVDA+control+v, and going through the voices that are listed.

I believe this was originally an install of Windows 10, 1809, and I
certainly never chose to download any SAPI voices.

> The second voice you mentioned, Zira, is actually spelled z a r a, Zara.

I'm sorry again, but no, it isn't. If you spell the word as it appears in
NVDA's voice list when set to SAPI5, you will find that it is Zira, Z i r a,
as Louise mentioned.

Luke











Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Monte Single
 

Ha, ha, Luke,

That's pretty good, I'm wrong two out of two.
I thought nvda used one core voices by default in win10.
That's alright, I like one core zara and I guess I could choose a spai5
voice for a particular profile.

Cheers,

Monte

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: May 8, 2021 6:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Monte Single wrote:

I think the voices you mentioned are Micro Soft One Core voices that come
with win10.

Sorry Monte, but they are SAPI5 voices that come with Win 10.
You can confirm this by pressing NVDA+Control+s, changing your synth to
SAPI5, and pressing OK.
Then pressing NVDA+control+v, and going through the voices that are listed.

I believe this was originally an install of Windows 10, 1809, and I
certainly never chose to download any SAPI voices.

The second voice you mentioned, Zira, is actually spelled z a r a, Zara.
I'm sorry again, but no, it isn't. If you spell the word as it appears in
NVDA's voice list when set to SAPI5, you will find that it is Zira, Z i r a,
as Louise mentioned.

Luke

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