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Re: NVDA remote access and usage

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


don, if you are going to be the controller do the following
1. open NVDA menu
2. press t for tools
3. press e to open the remote section
4. enter on connect
5. tab twice and type
   nvdaremote.com
  (you only need to do this step once)
6 tab and create a key then enter.
 
 
for the pc being controlled:
1. have the client do the first 4 steps
5. tab then arrow down to 'allow this machine to be controlled'
6. tab and have them type the same host name you typed
7. tab and have them type the key you created and enter
 
You will know that you are connected because you will hear a high pitched beep. press f11 to control their machine F11 also switches you back to your own machine.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote access and usage

Ok how do I contact you off-list?

Thanks.

Don

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charles Adkins
Sent: August 12, 2020 10:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote access and usage

 

Actually, I have had the opposite result. I use it here at work on two computers. If I can help write me off list. I got my help from the nvdaremote.com page. Hope that helps. 



On Aug 12, 2020, at 10:02 AM, Don Risavy, Jr. <donaldrisavy@...> wrote:



Hello,

Was wondering if there was a easier method for using the remote plug in for NVDA as what saw and or tried to use was extremely aggravating, challenging and frustrating trying to figure out how to use the plug in for accessing other computers that are using and have nvda installed.

Thanks.

Don

 

 


Re: Latest Skype and screen readers

 

hello.
did you try skype 8.62 or 8.61?
were they accessible for screen readers?

On 8/13/20, Inam Uddin via groups.io <charlsdarwin1969=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Respected friends, today I’m very sorry to let you know that with the latest
NVDA I cannot use Skype.
The matter of fact is that I’m using Skype 8.63.
As I go to desktop and focus to Skype, it says nothing other than Skype.
With JAWS it is continuously saying Chrome Legacy Windows, but with narrator
it is working fine.
Please do something it is a serious issue!
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


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by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
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Re: Latest Skype and screen readers

Socheat Muth
 

Hi,

You can press alt, to open the file menu, and press escape to exit out from the menu, it should focus properly again.

Hope I helped.

On 8/13/2020 7:18 AM, Inam Uddin via groups.io wrote:

Respected friends, today I’m very sorry to let you know that with the latest NVDA I cannot use Skype.

The matter of fact is that I’m using Skype 8.63.

As I go to desktop and focus to Skype, it says nothing other than Skype.

With JAWS it is continuously saying Chrome Legacy Windows, but with narrator it is working fine.

Please do something it is a serious issue!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Latest Skype and screen readers

Sarah k Alawami
 

Hello. See the skype english list. The jaws scripts have ben fixed. This is a problem with teams as well, and that was already fixed . That will be fixed hopefully in a skype update soon.

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On 12 Aug 2020, at 17:18, Inam Uddin via groups.io wrote:

Respected friends, today I’m very sorry to let you know that with the latest NVDA I cannot use Skype.

The matter of fact is that I’m using Skype 8.63.

As I go to desktop and focus to Skype, it says nothing other than Skype.

With JAWS it is continuously saying Chrome Legacy Windows, but with narrator it is working fine.

Please do something it is a serious issue!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Latest Skype and screen readers

Richard Kuzma
 

I don’t use skype here, but am on a tech team group.

They were talking about skype last evening.

try pressing the alt key to get to the menu and then pressing escape and see if that helps.

They think it is a focus issue.

Try alt tabbing away from skype and then alt tab back and see if that does anything.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Inam Uddin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 8:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Group Moderators <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Latest Skype and screen readers

 

Respected friends, today I’m very sorry to let you know that with the latest NVDA I cannot use Skype.

The matter of fact is that I’m using Skype 8.63.

As I go to desktop and focus to Skype, it says nothing other than Skype.

With JAWS it is continuously saying Chrome Legacy Windows, but with narrator it is working fine.

Please do something it is a serious issue!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Latest Skype and screen readers

Inam Uddin
 

Respected friends, today I’m very sorry to let you know that with the latest NVDA I cannot use Skype.

The matter of fact is that I’m using Skype 8.63.

As I go to desktop and focus to Skype, it says nothing other than Skype.

With JAWS it is continuously saying Chrome Legacy Windows, but with narrator it is working fine.

Please do something it is a serious issue!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA

Hareth
 

In one instance the quick key folder nav stopped working here last night.
Closing and reopening thunderbird solved it.
SS

On 8/12/20, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
Doing some experimenting. Just installed Thunderbird version 78.1 along
with the quick key folder nav addon. Still having issues with the addon
working as it should.






issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA

Don H
 

Doing some experimenting.  Just installed Thunderbird version 78.1 along with the quick key folder nav addon.  Still having issues with the addon working as it should.


Re: Thunderbird quick key folder nav extension

 

On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 04:45 PM, Kevin Cussick wrote:
I have not seen this before but now the addon works again as it had stopped working.
-
My guess is that Thunderbird is maturing in terms of how it handles extensions and what it expects of extension authors.  It's really not unlike the evolution of NVDA in that regard.  First there was basically nothing but "write an extension and it's up to the user to know when things change," then Joseph Lee's Add-On Updater, then the added feature to Add-On Updater such that it removes obsolete add-ons, and I believe eventually that functionality is to be integrated into the NVDA core code.  In order for any of that to work, the add-on writers have to provide specific information, in a specific format, so that the logic that figures out, "does this work now," can do it.

That also points out, though, that what many end-users think of as "automatic" is, in reality, anything but.  The ability to have these "automated for the end user" functions work imposes burdens on the developers to support what's needed to make them work.
 
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Re: NVDA says cannot verify my Vocalizer License

 

Hmmm well it could be a server outage.

Or it could be something with your system or your network or something.

I am currently troubleshooting a system issue with someone right now, and well its a little problematic.

the issue only happens on one apple workstation everything else is fine.

It may be where it is, the system is updated though.

Could be outdated firmware on the network device, I will only know when I see the person next week assuming we are out of lockdown again.

The previder say this person has an old modem and will need to get another and I may try to handle that first.

On 13/08/2020 10:43 am, Socheat Muth wrote:
Yes, I did deactivate my license before I reinstall Windows. Don't know why it did this, as I never had the issue before. And I am the only one who currently using the license. And only one computer being activated though.

On 8/12/2020 1:29 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Could be a system outage, did you deactivate before you reset the system.

You may have to ask code factory or atguys or whoever you got things from for a licence reset.

I have never had this, there are wwarnings to make sure you deactivate or you will lose your licence seat and may have to rebuy the product again, they warn you several times,  never the less you can still ask, as long as you had a legitimate issue they may just reset it for you.



On 13/08/2020 9:52 am, Socheat Muth wrote:
Hi all,


I just wiped out my PC, and installed a fresh copy of Windows. WHen I activate vocalizer on the machine, I got the following message.


Your license can not be verified. Please check the following:
1. Your credentials (email and password) are correct (you can change them under the vocalizer
expressive menu)
2. You are not using someone else's activation or you are not using the same activation in
different computers at the same time. This is not legal, and is against license terms.
3. You are having internet problems.
For further clarification, please contact tiflotecnia, Lda, or your local dealer.

OK


Could anyone tell me what exactly is the problem? I can use it just fine. But the message keep showing whenever I restart NVDA or restart my computer.


Thanks.





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Re: Thunderbird quick key folder nav extension

Kevin Cussick
 

Brian, I got the very same message on my 64bit version of tbird, I have not seen this before but now the addon works again as it had stopped working. so one happy camper.

On 12/08/2020 18:11, Brian Vogel wrote:
Here's a first, at least for me.  I went in to Tbird extensions to see which ones I have installed after someone mentioned Lightning on a separate topic.  Quick Folder Key Navigation is another of the extensions I have installed.
After jumping over to my web browser for a couple of minutes, I noticed a T-bird window with the title, "Loading...," had shown up, which I'd never seen before, and its content is about Quick Folder Key Navigation.  It reads: /The add-on has been updated to make it compatible with Thunderbird version 69.0 and later. It continues to be compatible with Thunderbird 68.0. Note that the "Enable key navigation" item for toggling key navigation on and off in the folder tree that used to be added to the "Go" menu has been moved to the context menu of the folder tree. /The only button is Close.
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~ Oscar Wilde


Re: issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA

 

You can turn off the today pain in view but even with it off any status message will announce the today pain as being active.

The calendar though is accessible if you do need it.

I don't but some may.

On 13/08/2020 6:51 am, Don H wrote:
One thing that thunderbird 78 has is a calendar that is not a addon as it has been.  Is there a way to disable the calendar?

On 8/12/2020 1:45 PM, Gene wrote:
In that case, upgrading may be a good idea.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Hareth
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 1:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA

No,
The quick key folder navigation does work fine with thunderbird 78.
plus they added some long waited feature "minimize to tray' to TB options
And the options setting interface  has become a lot easier to deal with. .
SS

On 8/12/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
It should be noted that when you get to version 78.x, which isn't available

through the program update yet, but its coming at some point, that the quick

navigation add-on will no longer work, nor will the other add-on that adds
functionality.  I might be able to find out its name.  Its something like
Mozilla enhancements.  I've said before that if people only use Thunderbird

for e-mail, I think updating is a bad idea.  If you use other features, it
might make sense to do so.

Also, the Lightning add-on is no longer used in 78.X.  The calendar function

is built into the program.  I don't know if it can be disabled but those are

changes people who just let the program update should be aware of.  If it
can't be disabled, that might be another reason for not letting the program

update.  These topics need more discussion.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 12:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA

On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 08:50 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:
I took a look around and discovered that there had been an extension
installed called Lightning.This was the Calendar/Schedule extension for
Thunderbird, from way, way back.   If you don't use that functionality, then

removing it is a good idea.

I've had consistent behavior out of the Quick Folder Key Navigation
extension for years now.

--


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A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde















Re: issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA

 

On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 02:08 PM, Gene wrote:
I've said before that if people only use Thunderbird for e-mail, I think updating is a bad idea.
-
Rushing to update anything before it's main public release is always fraught with problems.  So is refusing to update after a major release as time marches on.

Best practice is to update to keep pace with the latest release that is available to the public, not in beta, regardless of the software involved, whenever one can.  If you're going to have problems, and you are no matter what you do (or don't do) it's better to have them with something where a solution will be actively being sought, and that means current versions (and/or supported versions - as come companies do support several at one time).
 
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A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: Protonmail

 

Hmmm the bridge sounds a mess.

At any rate why would I want to use protonmail web when I can use gmail without any message limits on thunderbird.

I guess I could set up an encripted email on proton if I were that concerned which I am not.

I am not doing anything wrong anywhere.

Why can't I just set up pgp if I really want to do this, thunderbird supports it.

So google make money, our personal information is up for sale, and they give us so much free services, services which would cost a lot otherwise.

Is it worth the loss of privacy.

Put it this way, it is secure, and I have really good uptime.

Pluss the os, the gps, the maps, email, hangouts, chrome, the list goes on and on and on.

And its why I bother with google adds even.

They are giving me enough that I feel I don't mind selling my private info to them, as long as they continue to give me remote services like captcha for my site and it all works and translation and image discriptions and other things like they do, oh and youtube, music and otherwise, its worth my privacy.

Back on dialup days I can remember a 10 mb storage limit, 2.50 dollars an hour, 2 bucks for an email address a month.

I think the issue with a lot of new people is they forget before the cloud it actually cost a lot to be online.

Being private is fine, but on the other hand if google were an isp to I'd also get into it.



On 13/08/2020 2:27 am, Jesse Farquharson wrote:

Hello,

The bridge is a feature which can be accessed by any of the paid plans, but unfortunately not for free. You can still use the web interface though.


Re: issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, Interestingly enough I got an update to this app on this computer I am using 78.1.1 of tbird, it is 64bit but I got an update to this addon yesterday and it now works.

On 12/08/2020 13:50, Dan Beaver wrote:
I started having the problem where quick nav wasn't working at all.  I took a look around and discovered that there had been an extension installed called Lightning.  I looked into it and decided I didn't want it.  I removed it and now my quick nav extension is working perfectly.
You might want to see if you have this extension installed and ifg you do remove it.  I bet your quick nav will start working again.  You could just disable it to test this first before removing it.
Dan Beaver
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applian medi capture latest install

 

Hi all.

This is just a small note that if you use this and install it, you will loose speech near install end.

If you hit winkey r and type nvda or restart nvda you will get speech back and can finnish install.

A note though, while you will get speech back, it appears the digital output device has been updated, you will need to go to sound and playback in control panel or settings and make sure your internal sound card is the default else you will not get windows sounds to work.

you will then need to restart nvda again.

On reboot it will all work again to.

I really wander how to have it so windows never changes default soundcard no matter what is plugged in.

Obviously if its something like a headset, I want it to change or a usb device.

But not a virtual or an hdmi cable because these things either have really bad speakers or no sound at all.

There used to be a way in windows 7 but I am not sure what to do with windows 10.

Its not the end of the world but its just annoying.


Re: issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA

Hareth
 

This URL is for the latest release in all available languages,
Each language download options has its own heading:
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/all/

On 8/12/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
In that case, upgrading may be a good idea.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Hareth
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 1:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA

No,
The quick key folder navigation does work fine with thunderbird 78.
plus they added some long waited feature "minimize to tray' to TB options
And the options setting interface has become a lot easier to deal with. .
SS

On 8/12/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
It should be noted that when you get to version 78.x, which isn't
available

through the program update yet, but its coming at some point, that the
quick

navigation add-on will no longer work, nor will the other add-on that
adds
functionality. I might be able to find out its name. Its something like
Mozilla enhancements. I've said before that if people only use
Thunderbird

for e-mail, I think updating is a bad idea. If you use other features,
it
might make sense to do so.

Also, the Lightning add-on is no longer used in 78.X. The calendar
function

is built into the program. I don't know if it can be disabled but those
are

changes people who just let the program update should be aware of. If it
can't be disabled, that might be another reason for not letting the
program

update. These topics need more discussion.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 12:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA

On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 08:50 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:
I took a look around and discovered that there had been an extension
installed called Lightning.This was the Calendar/Schedule extension for
Thunderbird, from way, way back. If you don't use that functionality,
then

removing it is a good idea.

I've had consistent behavior out of the Quick Folder Key Navigation
extension for years now.

--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

~ Oscar Wilde














Re: issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA

Don H
 

One thing that thunderbird 78 has is a calendar that is not a addon as it has been.  Is there a way to disable the calendar?

On 8/12/2020 1:45 PM, Gene wrote:
In that case, upgrading may be a good idea.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Hareth
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 1:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA

No,
The quick key folder navigation does work fine with thunderbird 78.
plus they added some long waited feature "minimize to tray' to TB options
And the options setting interface  has become a lot easier to deal with. .
SS

On 8/12/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
It should be noted that when you get to version 78.x, which isn't available

through the program update yet, but its coming at some point, that the quick

navigation add-on will no longer work, nor will the other add-on that adds
functionality.  I might be able to find out its name.  Its something like
Mozilla enhancements.  I've said before that if people only use Thunderbird

for e-mail, I think updating is a bad idea.  If you use other features, it
might make sense to do so.

Also, the Lightning add-on is no longer used in 78.X.  The calendar function

is built into the program.  I don't know if it can be disabled but those are

changes people who just let the program update should be aware of.  If it
can't be disabled, that might be another reason for not letting the program

update.  These topics need more discussion.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 12:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA

On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 08:50 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:
I took a look around and discovered that there had been an extension
installed called Lightning.This was the Calendar/Schedule extension for
Thunderbird, from way, way back.   If you don't use that functionality, then

removing it is a good idea.

I've had consistent behavior out of the Quick Folder Key Navigation
extension for years now.

--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde













Re: issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA

Gene
 

In that case, upgrading may be a good idea.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Hareth
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 1:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA

No,
The quick key folder navigation does work fine with thunderbird 78.
plus they added some long waited feature "minimize to tray' to TB options
And the options setting interface has become a lot easier to deal with. .
SS

On 8/12/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
It should be noted that when you get to version 78.x, which isn't available

through the program update yet, but its coming at some point, that the quick

navigation add-on will no longer work, nor will the other add-on that adds
functionality. I might be able to find out its name. Its something like
Mozilla enhancements. I've said before that if people only use Thunderbird

for e-mail, I think updating is a bad idea. If you use other features, it
might make sense to do so.

Also, the Lightning add-on is no longer used in 78.X. The calendar function

is built into the program. I don't know if it can be disabled but those are

changes people who just let the program update should be aware of. If it
can't be disabled, that might be another reason for not letting the program

update. These topics need more discussion.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 12:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA

On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 08:50 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:
I took a look around and discovered that there had been an extension
installed called Lightning.This was the Calendar/Schedule extension for
Thunderbird, from way, way back. If you don't use that functionality, then

removing it is a good idea.

I've had consistent behavior out of the Quick Folder Key Navigation
extension for years now.

--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

~ Oscar Wilde









Re: Thunderbird quick key folder nav extension

Hareth
 

I've used the thunderbird 78 own addons browser to install it.
It doesn't show on the internet browsers the way it appears with the
thunderbird own browser.
Hope that helps.
SS

On 8/12/20, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
When I looked for addons for version 78 the quick key nav was not a
option to install.

On 8/12/2020 1:18 PM, Hareth wrote:
Hi,
For a few days now Quick Folder Key Navigation extension works even
with the latest thunderbird 78 release.
Plus worth saying here that the long waited for "minimize to tray"
feature has been added to Thunderbird 78 as well.
You can find it in the thunderbird options.
SS
On 8/12/20, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
Here's a first, at least for me. I went in to Tbird extensions to see
which
ones I have installed after someone mentioned Lightning on a separate
topic. Quick Folder Key Navigation is another of the extensions I have
installed.

After jumping over to my web browser for a couple of minutes, I noticed
a
T-bird window with the title, "Loading...," had shown up, which I'd
never
seen before, and its content is about Quick Folder Key Navigation. It
reads: The add-on has been updated to make it compatible with
Thunderbird
version 69.0 and later. It continues to be compatible with Thunderbird
68.0.
Note that the "Enable key navigation" item for toggling key navigation
on
and off in the folder tree that used to be added to the "Go" menu has
been
moved to the context menu of the folder tree. The only button is Close.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

~ Oscar Wilde