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Zoom Enhancements add-on

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

Hi all,
The meeting I've mentioned before where I will need access to the
chats as they come in is tonight. When I posted the question of how to
get NVDA to read chats in Zoom, I saw a suggestion of download the
Zoom Accessibility Enhancements add-on and toggle all alerts to on. I
was going to take that suggestion, but when looking at the page for
that add-on, it says the latest version of NVDA it is compatible with
is 2020.2, and I'm running 2020.4. Will this work? Since my meeting
starts in about 35 minutes, I probably won't download the add-on
tonight, but was wondering if it worked.
Bob


Re: Codefactory Eloquence with Latest Version of NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

I'm not familiar with it, however I don't use these voices regularly.  It would be worth checking with Code Factory themselves.  Their contact page is at: https://codefactoryglobal.com/contact-us/ and includes both a form and a link to their email address.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 2:45 AM <abhijitkasbe78@...> wrote:

hello!

i am using codefactory eloquence with NVDA.

but while using this i am not getting options like inflation , breathness and headness.

anyone is aware about this thing?



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Re: NVDA keyboard help please

Gene
 

I don't think your message addresses the problem.  The problem has nothing to do with double key strokes, it is that the NVDA keys don't work.
 
There may be another reason for this problem, which has come to light on another list. 
 
After a Windows update, someone no longer can use the JAWS key.  Since that is the same key as the NVDA key, it raises the question as to whether a Windows update has caused this problem for some users.  I don't know if the problem occurred immediately after the update or if it happened a little later, which may be important in whether it is the update or a keyboard problem. 
 
As I recall, in a later message, the person reports that their insert key no longer works at all.  Again, that may be an update problem or a keyboard problem.  We may get more information later.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA keyboard help please

Well I havn't had this, from time to time my enter key double presses and at one stage it got so bad that my system was deleting and doing all sorts of things.

I was about to just reformat when I noticed my usb hub that runs just about everything was turning off and on all the time.

I traced it to a faulty port on the power cube and have it plugged into my dedicated power cube on my desk.

This does use another port but that doesn't matter.

A lot of things have changed since I got upgrades to my room so who knows.

Double enter happens from time to time but its more annoying than anything else.

Sometimes keyboard focus switches due to something pressing itself but I just have to be aware and type slower and not be in a hurry while managing files.

Eventually I may have to replace this mechanical down the road.

Thank god I never eat or drink at the terminal, a thing some friends, students at my flat and family have a habbit of doing.

Computers do not mix with  human consumables.


On 22/02/2021 4:15 am, Gene wrote:
I doubt you did anything.  There is no single command to take the action that has happened.  I think it is very likely that you are having a problem I have off and on.  All my modifier keys stop working. 
 
Unload the program and run it again.  To unload it, open the system tray, Windows key b, and type n until you get to the NVDA icon. 
Open the context menu however you usually do it.  Up arrow to exitand press enter.  Then, press it again in a moment.
Now, run NVDA again.  The probem will very likely be solved.
 
I don't know how many people have this problem and how often.  I use Windows 7 so I haven't reported the problem.  I have no idea if I would have it or have it at all often in Windows 10.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 8:49 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA keyboard help please

I am not sure how I did this, but I disabled my NVDA keys, not only numlock zero key, but as if that wasn't enough, the capslock key also. How can I restore that? Thank you so much.





Re: Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

 

Even curiouser, when I'm having NVDA read my immediately prior message, in the web interface, it is saying "teeny tiny down arrow" for that character.

But when I continue on to the one previous to that, when it hits it it announces, "fill down pointing small triangle."

This is really, really weird.  Really weird!
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      ~ Anton Chekhov

 


Re: Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

 

And a follow-up:

When in Tbird, after having made the previously noted dictionary change, when I land on my inbox, where the▾immediately precedes the number of messages, it reads something that sounds like "fill" or "field" (more like the former) tiny down arrow.

I am absolutely certain that the "fill" was not being said in my initial test in Notepad, but when I revisit notpad it now is.  And it continues to be said even after Thunderbird is closed.

I closed NVDA, reopened it, and edited the dictionary entry, during which NVDA said that "fill" when in the pattern, and it had not before, but I edited my replacement string to "teeny tiny down arrow."  When I had NVDA read the line above with said character in it, after the edit, it says only "teeny tiny down arrow."

Curiouser and curiouser.


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      ~ Anton Chekhov

 


Re: Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

 

By the way, I just put an entry in the default dictionary with the pattern being the single character: ▾
the replacement string being: tiny down arrow
the match type being: whole word.

After that's saved, I had NVDA read the following line that I'd created in Notepad: Now is the time ▾ for all ▾ good men to come to ▾ the aid of their party.

All three tiny down arrow characters were announced as "tiny down arrow."
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Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

      ~ Anton Chekhov

 


Re: Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

 

On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 04:51 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
When I tried using the ▾  as the pattern and replacing it with the word unread, nothing changed.

Are you positive that the item you're testing this on afterward has the downward pointing small triangle present?

When I try to search for that character, copied and pasted from your line, which I'm going to presume was copied straight from the source, I get nothing back in Character Map.

My gut still says to me that this is an issue with Thunderbird, not NVDA, but if it is then I'd imagine that NVDA 2020.3 would announce the same thing that 2020.4 does, and I don't think that's the case.
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Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

      ~ Anton Chekhov

 


Re: Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

I tried following the steps indicated in this thread but it did not work. Actually what it should be saying is the word unread in place of that symbol., When I tried using the ▾  as the pattern and replacing it with the word unread, nothing changed.

On 2/21/2021 4:24 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Even though this topic was launched first, the more recent one asking about this issue has a title that is far more indicative regarding the actual issue:  Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

Thus, this topic, +Strange thing in Nvda, shall be merged into the more descriptive one as soon as I finish posting this message.  If others wish to discuss workarounds further, please post to the "Oddity" topic.
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Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

      ~ Anton Chekhov

 


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Re: Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Dan,

I would have used the dictionary of some sort if I could actually isolate the odd figure/oration. But with Mozilla Thunderbird as well as Firefox, you can't isolate this item using the screen review or object review feature. When you switch to those modes and try moving to the status line where this odd character appears, all you get is 'blank' reported.


On 2/21/2021 3:57 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:

Yep, I have this behavior too. 



wonder if there is a way to stop this using the pronunciation dictionary.  It isn't a big show stopper for me but it would lessen the verbiage spoken.


Dan Beaver

On 2/21/2021 1:55 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

This issue began with the latest version of NVDA version 2020.4. When I voe to the Tree View of folders using the F6 key and arrow up and down I hear something like 'inbox fill down pointing small tirangle' followed by the number of unread messages in the folder. This is with sub foldrs located under the inbox and with the tree branch closed with the left arrow.

Does anyone else experience anything like this? This occurs with all installed synthesizers and voices and with variation of punctuation with all, some, most and characters. It stops only when I turn punctuation to none.

-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Brian,

The link you provided gives an error 404 file not found page.


On 2/21/2021 2:05 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
+Strange thing in Nvda

Topic started yesterday, and should still be in your inbox.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

      ~ Anton Chekhov

 


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

 

Even though this topic was launched first, the more recent one asking about this issue has a title that is far more indicative regarding the actual issue:  Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

Thus, this topic, +Strange thing in Nvda, shall be merged into the more descriptive one as soon as I finish posting this message.  If others wish to discuss workarounds further, please post to the "Oddity" topic.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

      ~ Anton Chekhov

 


Re: Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

Dan Beaver
 

And I have my wondering answered too.  ;)


Dan Beaver

On 2/21/2021 2:13 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 08:54 AM, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:
How did you do it?
-

Using the NVDA Dictionaries with Regular Expression Matching to Change Pronunciations (docx)

In this case, you need not use regular expression matching, since this is for a single character.  You can copy and paste that character, which has been in several messages in this topic and can be snagged from one of them, and use it in a Whole Word match rather than a regular expression match.

The tutorial goes through the steps, which are exactly the same as far as adding a dictionary entry, but I focused on regular expression matching.  It's a simple enough matter to use the Whole Word radio button as is appropriate here.

 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

      ~ Anton Chekhov

 

-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


Re: Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

Dan Beaver
 

Yep, I have this behavior too. 



wonder if there is a way to stop this using the pronunciation dictionary.  It isn't a big show stopper for me but it would lessen the verbiage spoken.


Dan Beaver

On 2/21/2021 1:55 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

This issue began with the latest version of NVDA version 2020.4. When I voe to the Tree View of folders using the F6 key and arrow up and down I hear something like 'inbox fill down pointing small tirangle' followed by the number of unread messages in the folder. This is with sub foldrs located under the inbox and with the tree branch closed with the left arrow.

Does anyone else experience anything like this? This occurs with all installed synthesizers and voices and with variation of punctuation with all, some, most and characters. It stops only when I turn punctuation to none.

-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


Re: NVDA keyboard help please

 

Well I havn't had this, from time to time my enter key double presses and at one stage it got so bad that my system was deleting and doing all sorts of things.

I was about to just reformat when I noticed my usb hub that runs just about everything was turning off and on all the time.

I traced it to a faulty port on the power cube and have it plugged into my dedicated power cube on my desk.

This does use another port but that doesn't matter.

A lot of things have changed since I got upgrades to my room so who knows.

Double enter happens from time to time but its more annoying than anything else.

Sometimes keyboard focus switches due to something pressing itself but I just have to be aware and type slower and not be in a hurry while managing files.

Eventually I may have to replace this mechanical down the road.

Thank god I never eat or drink at the terminal, a thing some friends, students at my flat and family have a habbit of doing.

Computers do not mix with  human consumables.


On 22/02/2021 4:15 am, Gene wrote:
I doubt you did anything.  There is no single command to take the action that has happened.  I think it is very likely that you are having a problem I have off and on.  All my modifier keys stop working. 
 
Unload the program and run it again.  To unload it, open the system tray, Windows key b, and type n until you get to the NVDA icon. 
Open the context menu however you usually do it.  Up arrow to exitand press enter.  Then, press it again in a moment.
Now, run NVDA again.  The probem will very likely be solved.
 
I don't know how many people have this problem and how often.  I use Windows 7 so I haven't reported the problem.  I have no idea if I would have it or have it at all often in Windows 10.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 8:49 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA keyboard help please

I am not sure how I did this, but I disabled my NVDA keys, not only numlock zero key, but as if that wasn't enough, the capslock key also. How can I restore that? Thank you so much.





Re: Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

 

On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 08:54 AM, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:
How did you do it?
-

Using the NVDA Dictionaries with Regular Expression Matching to Change Pronunciations (docx)

In this case, you need not use regular expression matching, since this is for a single character.  You can copy and paste that character, which has been in several messages in this topic and can be snagged from one of them, and use it in a Whole Word match rather than a regular expression match.

The tutorial goes through the steps, which are exactly the same as far as adding a dictionary entry, but I focused on regular expression matching.  It's a simple enough matter to use the Whole Word radio button as is appropriate here.

 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

      ~ Anton Chekhov

 


Re: Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

 

+Strange thing in Nvda

Topic started yesterday, and should still be in your inbox.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

      ~ Anton Chekhov

 


Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

This issue began with the latest version of NVDA version 2020.4. When I voe to the Tree View of folders using the F6 key and arrow up and down I hear something like 'inbox fill down pointing small tirangle' followed by the number of unread messages in the folder. This is with sub foldrs located under the inbox and with the tree branch closed with the left arrow.

Does anyone else experience anything like this? This occurs with all installed synthesizers and voices and with variation of punctuation with all, some, most and characters. It stops only when I turn punctuation to none.

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: NVDA keyboard help please

Gene
 

I doubt you did anything.  There is no single command to take the action that has happened.  I think it is very likely that you are having a problem I have off and on.  All my modifier keys stop working. 
 
Unload the program and run it again.  To unload it, open the system tray, Windows key b, and type n until you get to the NVDA icon. 
Open the context menu however you usually do it.  Up arrow to exitand press enter.  Then, press it again in a moment.
Now, run NVDA again.  The probem will very likely be solved.
 
I don't know how many people have this problem and how often.  I use Windows 7 so I haven't reported the problem.  I have no idea if I would have it or have it at all often in Windows 10.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 8:49 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA keyboard help please

I am not sure how I did this, but I disabled my NVDA keys, not only numlock zero key, but as if that wasn't enough, the capslock key also. How can I restore that? Thank you so much.





NVDA keyboard help please

Charles Adkins
 

I am not sure how I did this, but I disabled my NVDA keys, not only numlock zero key, but as if that wasn't enough, the capslock key also. How can I restore that? Thank you so much.


Re: Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

Jarek.Krcmar
 

How did you do it?
Jarek


-----Původní zpráva-----
From: seb naudet
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 7:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] +Strange thing in Nvda

Hello,

yes i've noticed that too.

i've added ▾ in the nvda dictionnary to silent it.


cheers


Le 20/02/2021 à 14:34, J cheersarek.Krcmar a écrit :
Hello everyone,

After updating Nvda on the version 24 I have found this problem:

If I start Thunderbird and find messages, then Nvda says: Fillet down pointing small try angle.

I would like to know, how avoid it.

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