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Re: wonder vs. wander
Gerardo Corripio
Which reminds me, in Spanish, I’ve seen blind people spell stuff wrong like in Dropbox, they have written stuff like Dropvo. The funniest one I’ve come across was instead of Firefox, they wrote Firefo. I know we shouldn’t laugh at these, but I mean withoutBraille/ready Access or someone sighted to tell them the correct spelling, what or how would they know the correct spelling of these terms? IN thepast, I’vecorrected them, but have gotten beaten of that I’m a perfectionist etc., or thatai want to show mysuperiority, which I’d never do such a thing.
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De: Kwork
The only spelling anomaly common among blind people that really annoys me to no end is misspelling captcha as capture. Bad enough in everyday use, but worse when we're filling out support tickets on websites and professional emails, and asking companies to make their "captures" accessible. Um, no. The form that includes an unsolvable by screenreader image verification is called captcha. c, a, p, t, c, h, a.
On 11/19/2018 9:54 AM, Gene wrote:
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Re: wonder vs. wander
Kwork
The only spelling anomaly common among blind people that really
annoys me to no end is misspelling captcha as capture. Bad enough
in everyday use, but worse when we're filling out support tickets
on websites and professional emails, and asking companies to make
their "captures" accessible. Um, no. The form that includes an
unsolvable by screenreader image verification is called captcha.
c, a, p, t, c, h, a.
On 11/19/2018 9:54 AM, Gene wrote:
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Re: NVDA not read anything in any browser.
hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi
The tool should of fixed the problem. After you used it did you shut down the computer properly or just restart?
Before the tool was made I used the following to fix it on my windows 10 64 bit machine.
It basically said if you are having these problems and tells you what to do. it must be done to the letter.
Troubleshooting - NVDA says “unknown” or “pane” in all of your browsers, Mozilla Thunderbird email client and other places
Gene nz
On 20/11/2018 6:42 AM, Tejas Bendre wrote:
I am useing windows 10 64 bit home single language. and i not uninstoal any softwear. I also try nvda_snapshot_alpha-16247,fbae6b0b portebel verjun. one more thing nvda also not reding contest menu. and this is happen only with NVDA. On 11/19/18, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:Hi could i ask what the last bit of software was that was uninstalled and then you noticed it happening? By the way are you running a 32 or 64 bit operating system and which version? I was wondering if maybe it might of been the mathshtml add on that might of caused it or when you uninstalled say office? Gene nz On 16/11/2018 2:06 AM, Tejas Bendre wrote: I try this. but not get sukcess. On 11/15/18, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...><mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote: Hi have a look under the tools section in NVDA and look for a menu called Run COM Registration Fixing tool... then press the enter key on it. I can not remember if there were steps after it but it should reset the files and i think the computer also has to be rebooted as well. If it fixes the problem you should be able to use the browser as you were before it happened. Some times it would also affect the running application on the task bar and say unknown etc and do some other weird stuff. There is no documentation for it in the user manual but I think there should be so people know what it is for. Gene nz On 15/11/2018 7:34 AM, Tejas Bendre wrote: Hello guys, facing big problem with NVDA. I am using Dell laptop With Windows 10 1803. NVDA latest 18.3.2 version. Whenever I open any browser NVDA not read anything it's just saying unknown and unknown. so this is happen with NVDA only. I try JAWS but JAWS working fine. Actually same problem i was face with 1703 version. but afther update in 1803 laptop verks 2 3 days. and now same problem i am faceing. i tryed all browsers. So can anyone help me. -- [Image NVDA certified expert] Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam. -- [Image NVDA certified expert] Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam. --
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers.
To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert exam.
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Re: wonder vs. wander
Kwork
Eye no on phones that can bee true four sure. Awl sew words with
too ore three different ways of spelling them can cause problems.
Walking outside too check the male fore instants can pro deuce to
different meanings if considered closely. Fore the cited, the
spelling inn this e male will look interesting inn certain
sections, even though NVDA is saying awl words correctly, if
exaggeratedly at times.
On 11/18/2018 11:41 AM, Brian Vogel
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My suspicion, and not just in this case, is that there is a widespread use of dictation (speech-to-text) software these days. With words such as wonder and wander, when said in the flow of normal speech often sound remarkably similar, as the vowel gets what I call "schwa-ed". Unless you're using dictation software that has some AI features where it looks at surrounding context before closing in on the actual word wanted you'll often get substitutions like this.
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Re: Ccleaner the sequal
I havn't needed a cleaner since I stabelised my system configuration some months back.
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I'd run a reg cleaner on a system while you are configuring things but usually I try to have a standardised config.
On 11/20/2018 4:52 AM, Gene wrote:
Running a registry cleaner unless you think you have a problem caused by the registry is advised against by many computer advisors. This is an example of why. Obviously, this version of the program has a bug in it but even so, at times needless problems result even when a registry cleaner doesn't have one.
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Re: vlc app
Brice Mijares
There is also a NVDA add on app for VLC.
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On 11/19/2018 9:46 AM, JM Casey wrote:
The pause button? Space bar will do it.
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Re: rh voice
I agree, I have the same issue, due to old infrastructure I have decided to upgrade the network printer system to a newer model.
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So yesterday I looked at units all afternoon and this afternoon I will buy and install one. However that involves in first getting rid of the old one. Thats all and good,, take it off the web cloud, then clearing the drivers and extra software. Of course, the oldest user system in the house a i3 gen1 with win7 with some what of a mangled install and which is simply about because its user doesn't want to afford to update and is rarely used for anything now and its got a lot of junk on it had to have issues. I had to delete the ocr solution manually, a few reg keys, an add remove programs entry, a few files. Then I had to go and find an old out of date possibly malware infested tool to get rid of its installer and such. Then there was a stuck print job from 2016 just sitting there and I had to run another file I had to clear that and a few other things. Its probably more messed up now but as long as it boots thats fine, its due to be trashed, almost died last summer, maybe this summer it will die and I can get the user to actually ask me to upgrade it for him rather than asking me to repair such an ancient unit <sigh> The joy of being the network admin. I just hope I can clear it off the workstation, that and a reformat of the device is all I need to do before I sell it.
On 11/19/2018 11:12 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes, I often find that there are false positives. Also of course some programs are listed as potentially unwanted merely by their behaviour. These are often thought to be hack tools but faced with a messed up email system sniffing out the real passwords saves a lot of time in setting stuff up again.
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Re: NVDA not read anything in any browser.
Chris
I would suggest running the run com registration fixing tool under the tools menu of nvda Then restart your computer, not shut down but RESTART
From: Tejas Bendre
Sent: 19 November 2018 17:42 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not read anything in any browser.
I am useing windows 10 64 bit home single language. and i not uninstoal any softwear. I also try nvda_snapshot_alpha-16247,fbae6b0b portebel verjun. one more thing nvda also not reding contest menu. and this is happen only with NVDA.
On 11/19/18, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote: > Hi > > > could i ask what the last bit of software was that was uninstalled and then > you noticed it happening? > > > By the way are you running a 32 or 64 bit operating system and which > version? > > > I was wondering if maybe it might of been the mathshtml add on that might of > caused it or when you uninstalled say office? > > > Gene nz > > > On 16/11/2018 2:06 AM, Tejas Bendre wrote: > > I try this. > but not get sukcess. > > On 11/15/18, hurrikennyandopo ... > <hurrikennyandopo@...><mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote: > > > Hi > > > have a look under the tools section in NVDA and look for a menu called Run > COM Registration Fixing tool... then press the enter key on it. I can not > remember if there were steps after it but it should reset the files and i > think the computer also has to be rebooted as well. > > > If it fixes the problem you should be able to use the browser as you were > before it happened. > > > Some times it would also affect the running application on the task bar and > say unknown etc and do some other weird stuff. > > > There is no documentation for it in the user manual but I think there > should > be so people know what it is for. > > > Gene nz > > > On 15/11/2018 7:34 AM, Tejas Bendre wrote: > > Hello guys, > facing big problem with NVDA. > I am using Dell laptop With Windows 10 1803. > NVDA latest 18.3.2 version. > Whenever I open any browser NVDA not read anything it's just saying > unknown and unknown. > so this is happen with NVDA only. > I try JAWS but JAWS working fine. > > Actually same problem i was face with 1703 version. > but afther update in 1803 laptop verks 2 3 days. > and now same problem i am faceing. > i tryed all browsers. > So can anyone help me. > > > > > > -- > [Image NVDA certified expert] > Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related > material > at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New > Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the > NVDA > screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or > location) is near to you please visit > http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa > People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, > please > visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The > certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals > from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert > exam. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > [Image NVDA certified expert] > Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material > at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New > Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA > screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or > location) is near to you please visit > http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa > People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please > visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The > certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals > from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert > exam. > > > >
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Re: vlc app
JM Casey
The pause button? Space bar will do it.
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As for tagging songs/albums, I've not tried this and so am not sure. I will look into it.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sile via Groups.Io Sent: November 19, 2018 12:34 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] vlc app Yes, though I am still having issues with the 'pause' button not having a shortcut, --Sile On 11/19/2018 12:19 PM, JM Casey wrote: Most of the standard features are easy to use.
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Re: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander
Gerardo Corripio
Having learned directly Grade2 Braille, can you guys believe when I started using a computer, I didn’t know how to spell father? Also the difference between their dots456]the/sign, versus there dot5]the/sign is easy for me at least, to remember> there as using the same sign as here, and their. Make sense?
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De: Sarah k Alawami
Yeah. When I was learning braille and had to type in print I tried to type their and could not spell it as I had learned dot 4 5 6 t h e. And not t h e i r. No one ever taught me how to spell and it hurts me 30 odd years later. Story of my younger life eh? Take care
On 19 Nov 2018, at 8:22, Joshua Crary wrote:
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Re: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander
Rosemarie Chavarria
I was fortunate to have a teacher who placed emphasis on spelling as well as learning the braille contractions. A friend of mine went to a school for the blind where the teachers there didn't think of the importance of good spelling. Her mother was helping her with her homework and asked her "how do you spell Their?". She answered something like "dot 4 5 6 the sign". Her mother answered "no. It's t h e i r".
On 11/19/2018 8:22 AM, Joshua Crary
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Re: NVDA not read anything in any browser.
Tejas Bendre
I am useing windows 10 64 bit home single language.
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and i not uninstoal any softwear. I also try nvda_snapshot_alpha-16247,fbae6b0b portebel verjun. one more thing nvda also not reding contest menu. and this is happen only with NVDA.
On 11/19/18, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi
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Re: vlc app
Gerardo Corripio
With this player, can you mark where you left off, for instance, 30 minutes into a movie or book, and upon reopening the app, go to where you left off_
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De: JM Casey
Most of the standard features are easy to use.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares Sent: November 19, 2018 12:12 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] vlc app
I can see it's not going to be easy to learn, but I'll give it one hell of a try. thanks for yhe info.
On 11/19/2018 8:02 AM, JM Casey wrote: > Hey. > > Yes, you will want to use the wiki to get started, and possibly make > reference to it later. > > I still have trouble with some of the advanced preferences, doing > things like applying filters. There’s a lot under VLC’s hood though > and if you want to play videos, especially, it’s invaluable. > > Re the forum, I think there might be a captsha unfortunately. > > *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian > Vogel > *Sent:* November 19, 2018 9:54 AM > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] vlc app > > Forgot to mention that their wiki is very comprehensive as well: > *https://wiki.videolan.org/* > -- > > Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 > > /*A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the > need for illusion is deep.*/ > > ~ Saul Bellow, /To Jerusalem and Back/ > >
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Re: vlc app
Sile
Yes, though I am still having issues with the 'pause' button not having a shortcut,
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On 11/19/2018 12:19 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Most of the standard features are easy to use.
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Re: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander
Yeah. When I was learning braille and had to type in print I tried to type their and could not spell it as I had learned dot 4 5 6 t h e. And not t h e i r. No one ever taught me how to spell and it hurts me 30 odd years later. Story of my younger life eh? Take care
On 19 Nov 2018, at 8:22, Joshua Crary wrote:
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Re: vlc app
Dave Clement <dclement@...>
Hello,
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Many years ago I tried using VLC to edit the metadata for ripped home made recordings. At that time, it was not very accessible. Are these functions accessible today under NVDA and Windows 10? I have many untagged ripped albums that I would like to update. Thanks, Dave Clement Winnipeg MB
On Nov 19, 2018, at 11:19 AM, JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote:
Most of the standard features are easy to use. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares Sent: November 19, 2018 12:12 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] vlc app I can see it's not going to be easy to learn, but I'll give it one hell of a try. thanks for yhe info. On 11/19/2018 8:02 AM, JM Casey wrote:
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Re: vlc app
JM Casey
Most of the standard features are easy to use.
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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares Sent: November 19, 2018 12:12 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] vlc app I can see it's not going to be easy to learn, but I'll give it one hell of a try. thanks for yhe info. On 11/19/2018 8:02 AM, JM Casey wrote: Hey.
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Re: vlc app
Brice Mijares
I can see it's not going to be easy to learn, but I'll give it one hell of a try. thanks for yhe info.
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On 11/19/2018 8:02 AM, JM Casey wrote:
Hey.
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Re: wonder vs. wander
Gene
I usually don't spell-check messages. I read
them before I send them to check for words that sound misspelled but also to
make sure what I wrote is clear, accurate, such as commands given during
describing a procedure, and not clumsily worded. I may start
spellchecking them as well but my main concern on e-mail lists is not to have
spelling errors that are more than minor and to have clear writing and
accuracy. Rereading before sending is important in all those
respects.
Gene
----- Original Message ----- I'm writing as a moderator to explain my thinking
about the message. Of course, if the owner disagrees, that will be the
controling decision.
While it is generally not done and not considered
proper, I think you are overreacting. For one thing, I see this error with
native English speakers. I don't recall seeing it with non native
speakers. Since this sort of discussion never takes place on the list, I
let it pass. a little variety is enjoyable and may stimulate thought and
awareness. No one was flamed. No one was disparaged. These
days, being offended by everything is a cultural passtime and fixsture. I
don't see anything offensive in the message.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 5:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander I find your email to be quite insensitive. As you are probably aware, this list is comprised of people from all over the globe, many of whom are not native English speakers. I am always impressed when people are capable of speaking an additional language other than their native tongue and criticizing them for grammatical mistakes on a list not focused on grammatical correctness is petty and unwarranted. It is also off topic. Rick -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Travis Siegel Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 12:40 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] wonder vs. wander Not trying to make anybody mad here, but it really is disconcerting to see so many people here using wander and wonder interchangeably. Wander (with an"A" ) is what you do when you're out and about, and don't have any particular place to be, and you just feel like taking your time to see what's going on around you. You wander around, looking at things, and simply taking things easy. On the other hand, wonder (with an "O" ) is what you do when you're curious about something. Yeah, it's ok to wonder about life, the universe and everything, but if you wander about such things, you may never find your way back to your back yard, having being swept off into galaxies unknown. And, of course, it's perfectly acceptable to wonder about wandering too, especially if you're wondering why so many people wander into things.
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Re: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander
Joshua Crary <JCrary@...>
Some people who are low vision and do not visually see spelling develop poor spelling skills over time, as we do not have the visual reminder on daily basis on how to spell something correctly.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 11:16 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander
I'm writing as a moderator to explain my thinking about the message. Of course, if the owner disagrees, that will be the controling decision.
While it is generally not done and not considered proper, I think you are overreacting. For one thing, I see this error with native English speakers. I don't recall seeing it with non native speakers. Since this sort of discussion never takes place on the list, I let it pass. a little variety is enjoyable and may stimulate thought and awareness. No one was flamed. No one was disparaged. These days, being offended by everything is a cultural passtime and fixsture. I don't see anything offensive in the message.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick
Gene ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 5:21 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander
Hello Travis: Caution: This email originated from outside of Roxbury Community College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
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