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Re: wonder vs. wander

Gerardo Corripio
 

Which reminds me, in Spanish, I’ve seen blind people spell stuff wrong like in Dropbox, they have written stuff like Dropvo. The funniest one I’ve come across was instead of Firefox, they wrote Firefo. I know we shouldn’t laugh at these, but I mean withoutBraille/ready Access or someone sighted to tell them the correct spelling, what or how would they know the correct spelling of these terms? IN thepast, I’vecorrected them, but have gotten beaten of that I’m a perfectionist etc., or thatai want to show mysuperiority, which I’d never do such a thing.

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: Kwork
Enviado: lunes, 19 de noviembre de 2018 12:30 p. m.
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

 

The only spelling anomaly common among blind people that really annoys me to no end is misspelling captcha as capture. Bad enough in everyday use, but worse when we're filling out support tickets on websites and professional emails, and asking companies to make their "captures" accessible. Um, no. The form that includes an unsolvable by screenreader image verification is called captcha. c, a, p, t, c, h, a.

On 11/19/2018 9:54 AM, Gene wrote:

I usually don't spell-check messages.  I read them before I send them to check for words that sound misspelled but also to make sure what I wrote is clear, accurate, such as commands given during describing a procedure, and not clumsily worded.  I may start spellchecking them as well but my main concern on e-mail lists is not to have spelling errors that are more than minor and to have clear writing and accuracy.  Rereading before sending is important in all those respects.

 

Gene

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From: Gene

Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 10:16 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

 

I'm writing as a moderator to explain my thinking about the message.  Of course, if the owner disagrees, that will be the controling decision.

 

While it is generally not done and not considered proper, I think you are overreacting.  For one thing, I see this error with native English speakers.  I don't recall seeing it with non native speakers.  Since this sort of discussion never takes place on the list, I let it pass.  a little variety is enjoyable and may stimulate thought and awareness.  No one was flamed.  No one was disparaged.  These days, being offended by everything is a cultural passtime and fixsture.  I don't see anything offensive in the message.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Rick

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 5:21 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

 

Hello Travis:

I find your email to be quite insensitive. As you are probably aware, this
list is comprised of people from all over the globe, many of whom are not
native English speakers. I am always impressed when people are capable of
speaking an additional language other than their native tongue and
criticizing them for grammatical mistakes on a list not focused on
grammatical correctness is petty and unwarranted. It is also off topic.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Travis Siegel
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 12:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

Not trying to make anybody mad here, but it really is disconcerting to see
so many people here using wander and wonder interchangeably.
Wander (with an"A" ) is what you do when you're out and about, and don't
have any particular place to be, and you just feel like taking your time to
see what's going on around you.  You wander around, looking at things, and
simply taking things easy.
On the other hand, wonder (with an "O" ) is what you do when you're curious
about something.  Yeah, it's ok to wonder about life, the universe and
everything, but if you wander about such things, you may never find your way
back to your back yard, having being swept off into galaxies unknown.
And, of course, it's perfectly acceptable to wonder about wandering too,
especially if you're wondering why so many people wander into things.






 


Re: wonder vs. wander

Kwork
 

The only spelling anomaly common among blind people that really annoys me to no end is misspelling captcha as capture. Bad enough in everyday use, but worse when we're filling out support tickets on websites and professional emails, and asking companies to make their "captures" accessible. Um, no. The form that includes an unsolvable by screenreader image verification is called captcha. c, a, p, t, c, h, a.

On 11/19/2018 9:54 AM, Gene wrote:
I usually don't spell-check messages.  I read them before I send them to check for words that sound misspelled but also to make sure what I wrote is clear, accurate, such as commands given during describing a procedure, and not clumsily worded.  I may start spellchecking them as well but my main concern on e-mail lists is not to have spelling errors that are more than minor and to have clear writing and accuracy.  Rereading before sending is important in all those respects.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gene
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

I'm writing as a moderator to explain my thinking about the message.  Of course, if the owner disagrees, that will be the controling decision.
 
While it is generally not done and not considered proper, I think you are overreacting.  For one thing, I see this error with native English speakers.  I don't recall seeing it with non native speakers.  Since this sort of discussion never takes place on the list, I let it pass.  a little variety is enjoyable and may stimulate thought and awareness.  No one was flamed.  No one was disparaged.  These days, being offended by everything is a cultural passtime and fixsture.  I don't see anything offensive in the message.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 5:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

Hello Travis:

I find your email to be quite insensitive. As you are probably aware, this
list is comprised of people from all over the globe, many of whom are not
native English speakers. I am always impressed when people are capable of
speaking an additional language other than their native tongue and
criticizing them for grammatical mistakes on a list not focused on
grammatical correctness is petty and unwarranted. It is also off topic.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Travis Siegel
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 12:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

Not trying to make anybody mad here, but it really is disconcerting to see
so many people here using wander and wonder interchangeably.
Wander (with an"A" ) is what you do when you're out and about, and don't
have any particular place to be, and you just feel like taking your time to
see what's going on around you.  You wander around, looking at things, and
simply taking things easy.
On the other hand, wonder (with an "O" ) is what you do when you're curious
about something.  Yeah, it's ok to wonder about life, the universe and
everything, but if you wander about such things, you may never find your way
back to your back yard, having being swept off into galaxies unknown.
And, of course, it's perfectly acceptable to wonder about wandering too,
especially if you're wondering why so many people wander into things.








Re: NVDA not read anything in any browser.

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


The tool should of fixed the problem. After you used it did you shut down the computer properly or just restart?


Before the tool was made I used the following to fix it on my windows 10 64 bit machine.


It basically said if you are having these problems and tells you what to do. it must be done to the letter.


Troubleshooting - NVDA says “unknown” or “pane” in all of your browsers, Mozilla Thunderbird email client and other places
If for some reason you have problems with NVDA saying “unknown” or “pane” check for the following symptoms:

In all of your browsers, or the Mozilla Thunderbird email client, no matter what you do, you still hear “unknown” or “pane”.

In the browser, email client and other menus you notice you cannot get into your menus, or you are unable to use the quick navigation keys

When you have been told the page is loaded and notice strange behaviour

Mozilla Thunderbird saying unknown while you try to navigate it

Your applications key does not work with it being spoken out and other strange behaviour in Windows

The running applications icons are not being spoken out
It might be a good idea to do the following:
Please note: If you are hearing “unknown” or “pane” (as discussed above) NVDA might seem like it is still working properly but it may not be completely in Windows and other programmes.
You could try the following solution which will allow you to re-register your dll files in case they are causing the problem.
Press the Windows key then type the following into the search box. Type in “command prompt”. Once you have located command prompt, in the search results, press the Applications key to bring up the context menu. Arrow down to select “run as administrator” and press the Enter key. This will take you to a command prompt window. This will not be spoken out. You may need sighted assistance for this.
Type in the following command
for %x in (c:\windows\system32\*.dll) do regsvr32 /s %x
This should re-register all components in the system32 folder.
When it is finished, you can close the command prompt window with the Alt + F4 key. You should notice now where NVDA was saying “unknown” as in some examples given, NVDA should now read the icons in the running applications area of Windows, speak the content of the webpage and menus, and also in Mozilla Thunderbird and other places in Windows including the Windows applications context menu.
Run COM Registration Fixing tool
If you are getting any of the following problems below - with Windows unregistering some of the files needed by NVDA - the following tool section in NVDA will get you out of trouble. To access this tool press the NVDA key + letter N while NVDA is running. Arrow down to the tools menu. A submenu will come up. Arrow down to the menu called Run COM Registration Fixing tool... then press the Enter key.  It should register the files needed by NVDA.


Gene nz


On 20/11/2018 6:42 AM, Tejas Bendre wrote:
I am useing windows 10 64 bit home single language.
and i not uninstoal any softwear.
I also try nvda_snapshot_alpha-16247,fbae6b0b portebel verjun.
one more thing nvda also not reding contest menu.
 and this is happen only with NVDA.


On 11/19/18, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi


could i ask what the last bit of software was that was uninstalled and then
you noticed it happening?


By the way are you running a 32 or 64 bit operating system and which
version?


I was wondering if maybe it might of been the mathshtml add on that might of
caused it or when you uninstalled say office?


Gene nz


On 16/11/2018 2:06 AM, Tejas Bendre wrote:

I try this.
but not get sukcess.

On 11/15/18, hurrikennyandopo ...
<hurrikennyandopo@...><mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:


Hi


have a look under the tools section in NVDA and look for a menu called Run
COM Registration Fixing tool... then press the enter key on it. I can not
remember if there were steps after it but it should reset the files and i
think the computer also has to be rebooted as well.


If it fixes the problem you should be able to use the browser as you were
before it happened.


Some times it would also affect the running application on the task bar and
say unknown etc and do some other weird stuff.


There is no documentation for it in the user manual but I think there
should
be so people know what it is for.


Gene nz


On 15/11/2018 7:34 AM, Tejas Bendre wrote:

Hello guys,
facing big problem with NVDA.
I am using Dell laptop With Windows 10 1803.
NVDA latest 18.3.2 version.
Whenever I open any browser NVDA not read anything it's just saying
unknown and unknown.
so this is happen with NVDA only.
 I try JAWS but JAWS working fine.

Actually same problem i was face with 1703 version.
but afther update in 1803  laptop verks 2 3 days.
and now same problem i am faceing.
i tryed all browsers.
So can anyone help me.





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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.






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Re: wonder vs. wander

Kwork
 

Eye no on phones that can bee true four sure. Awl sew words with too ore three different ways of spelling them can cause problems. Walking outside too check the male fore instants can pro deuce to different meanings if considered closely. Fore the cited, the spelling inn this e male will look interesting inn certain sections, even though NVDA is saying awl words correctly, if exaggeratedly at times.

On 11/18/2018 11:41 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
My suspicion, and not just in this case, is that there is a widespread use of dictation (speech-to-text) software these days.  With words such as wonder and wander, when said in the flow of normal speech often sound remarkably similar, as the vowel gets what I call "schwa-ed".  Unless you're using dictation software that has some AI features where it looks at surrounding context before closing in on the actual word wanted you'll often get substitutions like this.

It seems to be far more common on certain forums than others, and if I'm being perfectly honest it's way more common on blind and low-vision forums than elsewhere.  Since most individuals I know personally do know how to spell (at least as well as anyone else I know) and do so when typing, I have to suspect dictation software is at play at least a decent part of the time.
--

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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Ccleaner the sequal

 

I havn't needed a cleaner since I stabelised my system configuration some months back.

I'd run a reg cleaner on a system while you are configuring things but usually I try to have a standardised config.

On 11/20/2018 4:52 AM, Gene wrote:
Running a registry cleaner unless you think you have a problem caused by the registry is advised against by many computer advisors. This is an example of why. Obviously, this version of the program has a bug in it but even so, at times needless problems result even when a registry cleaner doesn't have one.
https://askleo.com/whats_the_best_registry_cleaner/

Why take even a small risk for no benefit?
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 4:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Ccleaner the sequal


I do not know, I was wondering the same. However I found another bug in the
new version. I It removes some registry entries its not supposed to. When I
ran it on windows 7 after first setting a restore point, I'm not daft! It
got rid of my default email links, and reconfigured the browser to use IE
and the media player to use Windows media player. Now I'm sure you could
tell it to ignore these but it seems its not reading the default settings
always. Interestingly on XP machines, no such funnies. So I put everything
back as it was. However I hd to reinstall Winamp as it also too all the
context menu options out but the restore did not put them back.

I do wish when software writers make new versions they exhaustively test
them on the versions of Windows they will encounter. I'm sure this is just a
bug where it fails to read the defaut parameter file but its irritating and
I can imagine it might upset somebody who does not understand concepts like
registry keys being pointers to programs to use by default.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Kingett" <kingettr@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Ccleaner the sequal


This is great news! I wonder why the portable apps version has not updated
yet. I was hoping portable apps would pass the latest updates through like
it does all the other apps but it hasn't done so for this ever since I got
it. Meh, I'll just watch the list and grab an update when it suits me.









Re: vlc app

Brice Mijares
 

There is also a NVDA add on app for VLC.

On 11/19/2018 9:46 AM, JM Casey wrote:
The pause button? Space bar will do it.
As for tagging songs/albums, I've not tried this and so am not sure. I will look into it.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: November 19, 2018 12:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vlc app
Yes, though I am still having issues with the 'pause' button not having a shortcut,
--Sile
On 11/19/2018 12:19 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Most of the standard features are easy to use.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: November 19, 2018 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vlc app

I can see it's not going to be easy to learn, but I'll give it one hell of a try. thanks for yhe info.

On 11/19/2018 8:02 AM, JM Casey wrote:
Hey.

Yes, you will want to use the wiki to get started, and possibly make
reference to it later.

I still have trouble with some of the advanced preferences, doing
things like applying filters. There’s a lot under VLC’s hood though
and if you want to play videos, especially, it’s invaluable.

Re the forum, I think there might be a captsha unfortunately.

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian
Vogel
*Sent:* November 19, 2018 9:54 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] vlc app

Forgot to mention that their wiki is very comprehensive as well:
*https://wiki.videolan.org/*
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/*A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the
need for illusion is deep.*/

~ Saul Bellow, /To Jerusalem and Back/





Re: rh voice

 

I agree, I have the same issue, due to old infrastructure I have decided to upgrade the network printer system to a newer model.

So yesterday I looked at units all afternoon and this afternoon I will buy and install one.

However that involves in first getting rid of the old one.

Thats all and good,, take it off the web cloud, then clearing the drivers and extra software.

Of course, the oldest user system in the house a i3 gen1 with win7 with some what of a mangled install and which is simply about because its user doesn't want to afford to update and is rarely used for anything now and its got a lot of junk on it had to have issues.

I had to delete the ocr solution manually, a few reg keys, an add remove programs entry, a few files.

Then I had to go and find an old out of date possibly malware infested tool to get rid of its installer and such.

Then there was a stuck print job from 2016 just sitting there and I had to run another file I had to clear that and a few other things.

Its probably more messed up now but as long as it boots thats fine, its due to be trashed, almost died last summer, maybe this summer it will die and I can get the user to actually ask me to upgrade it for him rather than asking me to repair such an ancient unit <sigh>

The joy of being the network admin.

I just hope I can clear it off the workstation, that and a reformat of the device is all I need to do before I sell it.

On 11/19/2018 11:12 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes, I often find that there are false positives. Also of course some programs are listed as potentially unwanted merely by their behaviour. These are often thought to be hack tools but faced with a messed up email system sniffing out the real  passwords saves a lot of time in setting stuff up again.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 4:27 AM
Subject: [nvda] rh voice


Hi.

Unless its a false positive detection by your antimalware program it doesn't have spyware at all.

Nothing on github actually has spyware.

Otherwise nvda has spyware.







Re: NVDA not read anything in any browser.

Chris
 

I would suggest running the run com registration fixing tool under the tools menu of nvda

Then restart your computer, not shut down but RESTART

 

 

 

 

From: Tejas Bendre
Sent: 19 November 2018 17:42
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not read anything in any browser.

 

I am useing windows 10 64 bit home single language.

and i not uninstoal any softwear.

I also try nvda_snapshot_alpha-16247,fbae6b0b portebel verjun.

one more thing nvda also not reding contest menu.

and this is happen only with NVDA.

 

 

On 11/19/18, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

> Hi

> could i ask what the last bit of software was that was uninstalled and then

> you noticed it happening?

> By the way are you running a 32 or 64 bit operating system and which

> version?

> I was wondering if maybe it might of been the mathshtml add on that might of

> caused it or when you uninstalled say office?

> Gene nz

> On 16/11/2018 2:06 AM, Tejas Bendre wrote:

> I try this.

> but not get sukcess.

> On 11/15/18, hurrikennyandopo ...

> <hurrikennyandopo@...><mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

> Hi

> have a look under the tools section in NVDA and look for a menu called Run

> COM Registration Fixing tool... then press the enter key on it. I can not

> remember if there were steps after it but it should reset the files and i

> think the computer also has to be rebooted as well.

> If it fixes the problem you should be able to use the browser as you were

> before it happened.

> Some times it would also affect the running application on the task bar and

> say unknown etc and do some other weird stuff.

> There is no documentation for it in the user manual but I think there

> should

> be so people know what it is for.

> Gene nz

> On 15/11/2018 7:34 AM, Tejas Bendre wrote:

> Hello guys,

> facing big problem with NVDA.

> I am using Dell laptop With Windows 10 1803.

> NVDA latest 18.3.2 version.

> Whenever I open any browser NVDA not read anything it's just saying

> unknown and unknown.

> so this is happen with NVDA only.

>  I try JAWS but JAWS working fine.

> Actually same problem i was face with 1703 version.

> but afther update in 1803  laptop verks 2 3 days.

> and now same problem i am faceing.

> i tryed all browsers.

> So can anyone help me.

> --

> [Image NVDA          certified expert]

> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related

> material

> at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New

> Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the

> NVDA

> screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or

> location) is near to you please visit

> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa

> People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you,

> please

> visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The

> certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals

> from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert

> exam.

> --

> [Image NVDA          certified expert]

> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material

> at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New

> Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA

> screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or

> location) is near to you please visit

> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa

> People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please

> visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The

> certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals

> from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert

> exam.

>

 

 

 


Re: vlc app

JM Casey
 

The pause button? Space bar will do it.

As for tagging songs/albums, I've not tried this and so am not sure. I will look into it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: November 19, 2018 12:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vlc app

Yes, though I am still having issues with the 'pause' button not having a shortcut,


--Sile


On 11/19/2018 12:19 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Most of the standard features are easy to use.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: November 19, 2018 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vlc app

I can see it's not going to be easy to learn, but I'll give it one hell of a try. thanks for yhe info.

On 11/19/2018 8:02 AM, JM Casey wrote:
Hey.

Yes, you will want to use the wiki to get started, and possibly make
reference to it later.

I still have trouble with some of the advanced preferences, doing
things like applying filters. There’s a lot under VLC’s hood though
and if you want to play videos, especially, it’s invaluable.

Re the forum, I think there might be a captsha unfortunately.

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian
Vogel
*Sent:* November 19, 2018 9:54 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] vlc app

Forgot to mention that their wiki is very comprehensive as well:
*https://wiki.videolan.org/*
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/*A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the
need for illusion is deep.*/

~ Saul Bellow, /To Jerusalem and Back/





Re: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

Gerardo Corripio
 

Having learned directly Grade2 Braille, can you guys believe when I started using a computer, I didn’t know how to spell father? Also the difference between their dots456]the/sign, versus there dot5]the/sign is easy for me at least, to remember> there as using the same sign as here, and their. Make sense?

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: Sarah k Alawami
Enviado: lunes, 19 de noviembre de 2018 11:27 a. m.
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

 

Yeah. When I was learning braille and had to type in print I tried to type their and could not spell it as I had learned dot 4 5 6 t h e. And not t h e i r. No one ever taught me how to spell and it hurts me 30 odd years later. Story of my younger life eh?

Take care

On 19 Nov 2018, at 8:22, Joshua Crary wrote:

Some people who are low vision and do not visually see spelling develop poor spelling skills over time, as we do not have the visual reminder on daily basis on how to spell something correctly. 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 11:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

 

I'm writing as a moderator to explain my thinking about the message.  Of course, if the owner disagrees, that will be the controling decision.

 

While it is generally not done and not considered proper, I think you are overreacting.  For one thing, I see this error with native English speakers.  I don't recall seeing it with non native speakers.  Since this sort of discussion never takes place on the list, I let it pass.  a little variety is enjoyable and may stimulate thought and awareness.  No one was flamed.  No one was disparaged.  These days, being offended by everything is a cultural passtime and fixsture.  I don't see anything offensive in the message.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Rick

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 5:21 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

 

Hello Travis:

I find your email to be quite insensitive. As you are probably aware, this
list is comprised of people from all over the globe, many of whom are not
native English speakers. I am always impressed when people are capable of
speaking an additional language other than their native tongue and
criticizing them for grammatical mistakes on a list not focused on
grammatical correctness is petty and unwarranted. It is also off topic.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Travis Siegel
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 12:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

Not trying to make anybody mad here, but it really is disconcerting to see
so many people here using wander and wonder interchangeably.
Wander (with an"A" ) is what you do when you're out and about, and don't
have any particular place to be, and you just feel like taking your time to
see what's going on around you.  You wander around, looking at things, and
simply taking things easy.
On the other hand, wonder (with an "O" ) is what you do when you're curious
about something.  Yeah, it's ok to wonder about life, the universe and
everything, but if you wander about such things, you may never find your way
back to your back yard, having being swept off into galaxies unknown.
And, of course, it's perfectly acceptable to wonder about wandering too,
especially if you're wondering why so many people wander into things.





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Re: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I was fortunate to have a teacher who placed emphasis on spelling as well as learning the braille contractions. A friend of mine went to a school for the blind where the teachers there didn't think of the importance of good spelling. Her mother was helping her with her homework and asked her "how do you spell Their?". She answered something like "dot 4 5 6 the sign". Her mother answered "no. It's t h e i r".



On 11/19/2018 8:22 AM, Joshua Crary wrote:

Some people who are low vision and do not visually see spelling develop poor spelling skills over time, as we do not have the visual reminder on daily basis on how to spell something correctly. 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 11:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

 

I'm writing as a moderator to explain my thinking about the message.  Of course, if the owner disagrees, that will be the controling decision.

 

While it is generally not done and not considered proper, I think you are overreacting.  For one thing, I see this error with native English speakers.  I don't recall seeing it with non native speakers.  Since this sort of discussion never takes place on the list, I let it pass.  a little variety is enjoyable and may stimulate thought and awareness.  No one was flamed.  No one was disparaged.  These days, being offended by everything is a cultural passtime and fixsture.  I don't see anything offensive in the message.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Rick

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 5:21 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

 

Hello Travis:

I find your email to be quite insensitive. As you are probably aware, this
list is comprised of people from all over the globe, many of whom are not
native English speakers. I am always impressed when people are capable of
speaking an additional language other than their native tongue and
criticizing them for grammatical mistakes on a list not focused on
grammatical correctness is petty and unwarranted. It is also off topic.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Travis Siegel
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 12:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

Not trying to make anybody mad here, but it really is disconcerting to see
so many people here using wander and wonder interchangeably.
Wander (with an"A" ) is what you do when you're out and about, and don't
have any particular place to be, and you just feel like taking your time to
see what's going on around you.  You wander around, looking at things, and
simply taking things easy.
On the other hand, wonder (with an "O" ) is what you do when you're curious
about something.  Yeah, it's ok to wonder about life, the universe and
everything, but if you wander about such things, you may never find your way
back to your back yard, having being swept off into galaxies unknown.
And, of course, it's perfectly acceptable to wonder about wandering too,
especially if you're wondering why so many people wander into things.






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Re: NVDA not read anything in any browser.

Tejas Bendre
 

I am useing windows 10 64 bit home single language.
and i not uninstoal any softwear.
I also try nvda_snapshot_alpha-16247,fbae6b0b portebel verjun.
one more thing nvda also not reding contest menu.
and this is happen only with NVDA.

On 11/19/18, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi


could i ask what the last bit of software was that was uninstalled and then
you noticed it happening?


By the way are you running a 32 or 64 bit operating system and which
version?


I was wondering if maybe it might of been the mathshtml add on that might of
caused it or when you uninstalled say office?


Gene nz


On 16/11/2018 2:06 AM, Tejas Bendre wrote:

I try this.
but not get sukcess.

On 11/15/18, hurrikennyandopo ...
<hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com><mailto:hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com> wrote:


Hi


have a look under the tools section in NVDA and look for a menu called Run
COM Registration Fixing tool... then press the enter key on it. I can not
remember if there were steps after it but it should reset the files and i
think the computer also has to be rebooted as well.


If it fixes the problem you should be able to use the browser as you were
before it happened.


Some times it would also affect the running application on the task bar and
say unknown etc and do some other weird stuff.


There is no documentation for it in the user manual but I think there
should
be so people know what it is for.


Gene nz


On 15/11/2018 7:34 AM, Tejas Bendre wrote:

Hello guys,
facing big problem with NVDA.
I am using Dell laptop With Windows 10 1803.
NVDA latest 18.3.2 version.
Whenever I open any browser NVDA not read anything it's just saying
unknown and unknown.
so this is happen with NVDA only.
I try JAWS but JAWS working fine.

Actually same problem i was face with 1703 version.
but afther update in 1803 laptop verks 2 3 days.
and now same problem i am faceing.
i tryed all browsers.
So can anyone help me.





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Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the
NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you,
please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.











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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.




Re: vlc app

Gerardo Corripio
 

With this player, can you mark where you left off, for instance, 30 minutes into a movie or book, and upon reopening the app, go to where you left off_

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: JM Casey
Enviado: lunes, 19 de noviembre de 2018 11:20 a. m.
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] vlc app

 

Most of the standard features are easy to use.

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares

Sent: November 19, 2018 12:12 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] vlc app

 

I can see it's not going to be easy to learn, but I'll give it one hell of a try. thanks for yhe info.

 

On 11/19/2018 8:02 AM, JM Casey wrote:

> Hey.

>

> Yes, you will want to use the wiki to get started, and possibly make

> reference to it later.

>

> I still have trouble with some of the advanced preferences, doing

> things like applying filters. There’s a lot under VLC’s hood though

> and if you want to play videos, especially, it’s invaluable.

>

> Re the forum, I think there might be a captsha unfortunately.

>

> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian

> Vogel

> *Sent:* November 19, 2018 9:54 AM

> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io

> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] vlc app

>

> Forgot to mention that their wiki is very comprehensive as well:

> *https://wiki.videolan.org/*

> --

>

> Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

>

> /*A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the

> need for illusion is deep.*/

>

>            ~ Saul Bellow, /To Jerusalem and Back/

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: vlc app

Sile
 

Yes, though I am still having issues with the 'pause' button not having a shortcut,


--Sile

On 11/19/2018 12:19 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Most of the standard features are easy to use.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: November 19, 2018 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vlc app

I can see it's not going to be easy to learn, but I'll give it one hell of a try. thanks for yhe info.

On 11/19/2018 8:02 AM, JM Casey wrote:
Hey.

Yes, you will want to use the wiki to get started, and possibly make
reference to it later.

I still have trouble with some of the advanced preferences, doing
things like applying filters. There’s a lot under VLC’s hood though
and if you want to play videos, especially, it’s invaluable.

Re the forum, I think there might be a captsha unfortunately.

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian
Vogel
*Sent:* November 19, 2018 9:54 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] vlc app

Forgot to mention that their wiki is very comprehensive as well:
*https://wiki.videolan.org/*
--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

/*A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the
need for illusion is deep.*/

~ Saul Bellow, /To Jerusalem and Back/




Re: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yeah. When I was learning braille and had to type in print I tried to type their and could not spell it as I had learned dot 4 5 6 t h e. And not t h e i r. No one ever taught me how to spell and it hurts me 30 odd years later. Story of my younger life eh?

Take care

On 19 Nov 2018, at 8:22, Joshua Crary wrote:

Some people who are low vision and do not visually see spelling develop poor spelling skills over time, as we do not have the visual reminder on daily basis on how to spell something correctly. 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 11:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

 

I'm writing as a moderator to explain my thinking about the message.  Of course, if the owner disagrees, that will be the controling decision.

 

While it is generally not done and not considered proper, I think you are overreacting.  For one thing, I see this error with native English speakers.  I don't recall seeing it with non native speakers.  Since this sort of discussion never takes place on the list, I let it pass.  a little variety is enjoyable and may stimulate thought and awareness.  No one was flamed.  No one was disparaged.  These days, being offended by everything is a cultural passtime and fixsture.  I don't see anything offensive in the message.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Rick

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 5:21 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

 

Hello Travis:

I find your email to be quite insensitive. As you are probably aware, this
list is comprised of people from all over the globe, many of whom are not
native English speakers. I am always impressed when people are capable of
speaking an additional language other than their native tongue and
criticizing them for grammatical mistakes on a list not focused on
grammatical correctness is petty and unwarranted. It is also off topic.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Travis Siegel
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 12:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

Not trying to make anybody mad here, but it really is disconcerting to see
so many people here using wander and wonder interchangeably.
Wander (with an"A" ) is what you do when you're out and about, and don't
have any particular place to be, and you just feel like taking your time to
see what's going on around you.  You wander around, looking at things, and
simply taking things easy.
On the other hand, wonder (with an "O" ) is what you do when you're curious
about something.  Yeah, it's ok to wonder about life, the universe and
everything, but if you wander about such things, you may never find your way
back to your back yard, having being swept off into galaxies unknown.
And, of course, it's perfectly acceptable to wonder about wandering too,
especially if you're wondering why so many people wander into things.






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Re: vlc app

Dave Clement <dclement@...>
 

Hello,

Many years ago I tried using VLC to edit the metadata for ripped home made recordings. At that time, it was not very accessible. Are these functions accessible today under NVDA and Windows 10? I have many untagged ripped albums that I would like to update.

Thanks,

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB

On Nov 19, 2018, at 11:19 AM, JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote:

Most of the standard features are easy to use.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: November 19, 2018 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vlc app

I can see it's not going to be easy to learn, but I'll give it one hell of a try. thanks for yhe info.

On 11/19/2018 8:02 AM, JM Casey wrote:
Hey.

Yes, you will want to use the wiki to get started, and possibly make
reference to it later.

I still have trouble with some of the advanced preferences, doing
things like applying filters. There’s a lot under VLC’s hood though
and if you want to play videos, especially, it’s invaluable.

Re the forum, I think there might be a captsha unfortunately.

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian
Vogel
*Sent:* November 19, 2018 9:54 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] vlc app

Forgot to mention that their wiki is very comprehensive as well:
*https://wiki.videolan.org/*
--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

/*A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the
need for illusion is deep.*/

~ Saul Bellow, /To Jerusalem and Back/


Re: vlc app

JM Casey
 

Most of the standard features are easy to use.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: November 19, 2018 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vlc app

I can see it's not going to be easy to learn, but I'll give it one hell of a try. thanks for yhe info.

On 11/19/2018 8:02 AM, JM Casey wrote:
Hey.

Yes, you will want to use the wiki to get started, and possibly make
reference to it later.

I still have trouble with some of the advanced preferences, doing
things like applying filters. There’s a lot under VLC’s hood though
and if you want to play videos, especially, it’s invaluable.

Re the forum, I think there might be a captsha unfortunately.

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian
Vogel
*Sent:* November 19, 2018 9:54 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] vlc app

Forgot to mention that their wiki is very comprehensive as well:
*https://wiki.videolan.org/*
--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

/*A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the
need for illusion is deep.*/

~ Saul Bellow, /To Jerusalem and Back/


Re: vlc app

Brice Mijares
 

I can see it's not going to be easy to learn, but I'll give it one hell of a try. thanks for yhe info.

On 11/19/2018 8:02 AM, JM Casey wrote:
Hey.
Yes, you will want to use the wiki to get started, and possibly make reference to it later.
I still have trouble with some of the advanced preferences, doing things like applying filters. There’s a lot under VLC’s hood though and if you want to play videos, especially, it’s invaluable.
Re the forum, I think there might be a captsha unfortunately.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian Vogel
*Sent:* November 19, 2018 9:54 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] vlc app
Forgot to mention that their wiki is very comprehensive as well: *https://wiki.videolan.org/*
--
Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
/*A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.*/
          ~ Saul Bellow, /To Jerusalem and Back/


Re: wonder vs. wander

Gene
 

I usually don't spell-check messages.  I read them before I send them to check for words that sound misspelled but also to make sure what I wrote is clear, accurate, such as commands given during describing a procedure, and not clumsily worded.  I may start spellchecking them as well but my main concern on e-mail lists is not to have spelling errors that are more than minor and to have clear writing and accuracy.  Rereading before sending is important in all those respects.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

I'm writing as a moderator to explain my thinking about the message.  Of course, if the owner disagrees, that will be the controling decision.
 
While it is generally not done and not considered proper, I think you are overreacting.  For one thing, I see this error with native English speakers.  I don't recall seeing it with non native speakers.  Since this sort of discussion never takes place on the list, I let it pass.  a little variety is enjoyable and may stimulate thought and awareness.  No one was flamed.  No one was disparaged.  These days, being offended by everything is a cultural passtime and fixsture.  I don't see anything offensive in the message.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 5:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

Hello Travis:

I find your email to be quite insensitive. As you are probably aware, this
list is comprised of people from all over the globe, many of whom are not
native English speakers. I am always impressed when people are capable of
speaking an additional language other than their native tongue and
criticizing them for grammatical mistakes on a list not focused on
grammatical correctness is petty and unwarranted. It is also off topic.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Travis Siegel
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 12:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

Not trying to make anybody mad here, but it really is disconcerting to see
so many people here using wander and wonder interchangeably.
Wander (with an"A" ) is what you do when you're out and about, and don't
have any particular place to be, and you just feel like taking your time to
see what's going on around you.  You wander around, looking at things, and
simply taking things easy.
On the other hand, wonder (with an "O" ) is what you do when you're curious
about something.  Yeah, it's ok to wonder about life, the universe and
everything, but if you wander about such things, you may never find your way
back to your back yard, having being swept off into galaxies unknown.
And, of course, it's perfectly acceptable to wonder about wandering too,
especially if you're wondering why so many people wander into things.








Re: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

Joshua Crary <JCrary@...>
 

Some people who are low vision and do not visually see spelling develop poor spelling skills over time, as we do not have the visual reminder on daily basis on how to spell something correctly. 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 11:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

 

I'm writing as a moderator to explain my thinking about the message.  Of course, if the owner disagrees, that will be the controling decision.

 

While it is generally not done and not considered proper, I think you are overreacting.  For one thing, I see this error with native English speakers.  I don't recall seeing it with non native speakers.  Since this sort of discussion never takes place on the list, I let it pass.  a little variety is enjoyable and may stimulate thought and awareness.  No one was flamed.  No one was disparaged.  These days, being offended by everything is a cultural passtime and fixsture.  I don't see anything offensive in the message.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Rick

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 5:21 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

 

Hello Travis:

I find your email to be quite insensitive. As you are probably aware, this
list is comprised of people from all over the globe, many of whom are not
native English speakers. I am always impressed when people are capable of
speaking an additional language other than their native tongue and
criticizing them for grammatical mistakes on a list not focused on
grammatical correctness is petty and unwarranted. It is also off topic.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Travis Siegel
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 12:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

Not trying to make anybody mad here, but it really is disconcerting to see
so many people here using wander and wonder interchangeably.
Wander (with an"A" ) is what you do when you're out and about, and don't
have any particular place to be, and you just feel like taking your time to
see what's going on around you.  You wander around, looking at things, and
simply taking things easy.
On the other hand, wonder (with an "O" ) is what you do when you're curious
about something.  Yeah, it's ok to wonder about life, the universe and
everything, but if you wander about such things, you may never find your way
back to your back yard, having being swept off into galaxies unknown.
And, of course, it's perfectly acceptable to wonder about wandering too,
especially if you're wondering why so many people wander into things.






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