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Re: NVDA does not react when pressing ctrl+alt+delete

 

Hi,

To open Task Manager, press Control+Shift+Escape.

In order for nVDA to respond when you press Control+Alt+Delete, NVDA must be configured to load in secure screens (NVDA settings/General).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 9:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA does not react when pressing ctrl+alt+delete

 

Hello!

NVDA does not react when I press ctrl+alt+delete to see the taskmanage, and other Options. Is ther a solving?

Thanks and greetings

 

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Re: NVDA does not react when pressing ctrl+alt+delete

Gene
 

I don't know what, if anything control alt delete does in Windows 10. To bring up the task manager, the command, for many versions of Windows has been control shift escape.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 11:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA does not react when pressing ctrl+alt+delete



Hello!

NVDA does not react when I press ctrl+alt+delete to see the taskmanage, and other Options. Is ther a solving?

Thanks and greetings



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NVDA does not react when pressing ctrl+alt+delete

Cristina Ebetiuc
 

Hello!

NVDA does not react when I press ctrl+alt+delete to see the taskmanage, and other Options. Is ther a solving?

Thanks and greetings

 

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Re: Minor thing — NVDA and Windows Hello

 

Hi,
I bet NVDA is handling all events at once for this situation. Fixing this is a bit hard:
1. This is hardware-specific: a system with an IR (infrared) camera must be required to troubleshoot this problem.
2. This requires troubleshooting secure screen code, as these messages are announced by login prompt window.
The thing is, I don't have an IR camera equipped system - my ThinkPad includes a fingerprint reader, which does allow Windows Hello to work.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 8:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Minor thing — NVDA and Windows Hello

I wouldn't assume it’s a bug. Screen-readers function in complex environments and at times things happen that cause minor anomalies that don't matter. I suspect in this case, that the screen-reader is repeating because of something visual that is occurring such as the messages flashing on screen. It would be interesting to have a sighted person look at the screen and see if something that can be seen is causing the repeated behavior.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Luke Robinett
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 10:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Minor thing — NVDA and Windows Hello

My work laptop is running Windows 10 Pro and has Windows Hello enabled for face recognition at the logon screen. There are three messages spoken aloud as the system attempts to authenticate you: ”looking for you,” ”making sure it’s you” and ”hello (username).” NVDA repeats each of these three phrases exactly 3 times. Not a big deal and certainly doesn’t impede functionality, but obviously a bug so I thought I would share.


Re: Minor thing — NVDA and Windows Hello

Gene
 

I wouldn't assume it’s a bug. Screen-readers function in complex environments and at times things happen that cause minor anomalies that don't matter. I suspect in this case, that the screen-reader is repeating because of something visual that is occurring such as the messages flashing on screen. It would be interesting to have a sighted person look at the screen and see if something that can be seen is causing the repeated behavior.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Luke Robinett
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 10:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Minor thing — NVDA and Windows Hello

My work laptop is running Windows 10 Pro and has Windows Hello enabled for face recognition at the logon screen. There are three messages spoken aloud as the system attempts to authenticate you: ”looking for you,” ”making sure it’s you” and ”hello (username).” NVDA repeats each of these three phrases exactly 3 times. Not a big deal and certainly doesn’t impede functionality, but obviously a bug so I thought I would share.


Re: office 2019 word and nvda

Laughing Thunder
 

Yep! It’s definitely an issue. I’ve had it happen several times already, and I have someone at work who uses Jaws and reports the same issue as well.

On Jul 15, 2020, at 10:14 PM, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:

Hi.

I have not got a log for this but it happens every time I open office 2019 and then after closing it.

Nvda will stop responding for 10 seconds like look as if it just died but will eventually come back.

After that, nvda will not read the search box in windows properly in the start menu till I restart nvda.

I am not an office user though just an admin for a few systems with it.

Its happened on a couple systems and now another user on another list I am on reports this.

So I think it can be reproduced.


I have yet to look for a log, but since its happened on 3 other occasions I thought I'd ask here and see if someone else can confirm it for me and either get me to report it or set the ticket.




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Re: NVDA links and buttons on websites

Laughing Thunder
 

Short of having NVDA route the mouse pointer to the inaccessible item, and clicking the mouse, no. It has to do with the way the website is coded. These things happen when websites are not coded properly to support screen readers. I see this all the time.

On Jul 16, 2020, at 5:44 AM, Hettie <woehler.hettie@...> wrote:

Hi all

Is there any solution for links and buttons that doesn't react to the enter key on certain websites? Pressing the NVDA key and slash on the keypad doesn't work either. A friend of mine started at a new job and this presents a major problem for him.


Hettie



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Minor thing — NVDA and Windows Hello

Luke Robinett
 

My work laptop is running Windows 10 Pro and has Windows Hello enabled for face recognition at the logon screen. There are three messages spoken aloud as the system attempts to authenticate you: ”looking for you,” ”making sure it’s you” and ”hello (username).” NVDA repeats each of these three phrases exactly 3 times. Not a big deal and certainly doesn’t impede functionality, but obviously a bug so I thought I would share.


Re: NVDA links and buttons on websites

 

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 06:44 AM, Hettie wrote:
on certain websites
Can any of these "certain websites" be shared?  It's far better to have an example to work with whenever possible.
 
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NVDA has problems with Braille in Excel and Windows Mail App

Cristina Ebetiuc
 

Hello all!


I have two Problems.


1. For some weeks I can't navigate by the Routing-keys when being in edit mode of a cell. I have tried to activate or deactivate the direct editing of cells in the advanced Settings. It doesn’t work. How can I correct this Problem?

2. Since yesterday I can*t read the Content in the Windows Mail App on the Braille line. It either says Nothing or it Shows mail or notifications which I get. I don't believe if that could be the problem.  But could this be because I reinstalled Office yesterday?  Ah and the reinstalling of Office doesn’t solve the Problem in Excel.


My System:

Windows 10 the May update I think, Office 2016, NVDA latest Version, Windows-Apps-essentials latest Version, Braille extender latest Version.


Thank you in Advance for the help.


Greetings
😊

 

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Re: NVDA links and buttons on websites

Jacob Kruger
 

Hettie, at times you might need to use the NvDA key + numpad /, to route mouse cursor to current position, followed by just the numpad / to then click the mouse button, or else, try the NVDA key + numpad enter key combo to perform default action?


And, sometimes you might need to actually use the tab key to land on a control and just hit the primary enter key to activate it - really depends on what the specific site is doing that is interfering with interaction.


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On 2020-07-16 12:44 PM, Hettie wrote:
Hi all

Is there any solution for links and buttons that doesn't react to the enter key on certain websites? Pressing the NVDA key and slash on the keypad doesn't work either. A friend of mine started at a new job and this presents a major problem for him.


Hettie



Re: McAfee Antivirus does not work with NVDA

Gene
 

That's not surprising. Increasing numbers of antivirus programs don't work with screen-readers. It may work with JAWS; you might want to try JAWS to see but I'm far from optimistic.

If you are using Windows 10, Windows Defender is highly rated and well thought of. If Malware Bytes is still accessible, you may want to use that as well.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Berry
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 7:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] McAffee Antivirus does not work with NVDA

Hello there,


It looks as though the new McAffee antivirus doesn't work with N'Vda.
It simply says: "Chrome: Cannot read old Chrome."


McAfee Antivirus does not work with NVDA

Scott Berry
 

Hello there,


It looks as though the new McAffee antivirus doesn't work with N'Vda.  It simply says:  "Chrome:  Cannot read old Chrome."


Re: NVDA links and buttons on websites

Gene
 

Another way that may work is to move the mouse to the control and clicking it. If the person is using the desktop layout, do the following:
Be on the control.
Issue the command numpad enter numpad star. That is, hold numpad enter, then press star.
That moves the mouse to the control.
Click the mouse using just the star key.
So the seaquence is num;pad insert num;pad star, then star.

If that doesn't work, be on the control, turn off Browse Mode, then press the space bar on the button. If it’s a link, try enter.

Also, some links may not work unless you move beyond the first letter of it. While in browse mode, right arrow once past the first letter, then try enter.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Hettie
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 5:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA links and buttons on websites

Hi all

Is there any solution for links and buttons that doesn't react to the
enter key on certain websites? Pressing the NVDA key and slash on the
keypad doesn't work either. A friend of mine started at a new job and
this presents a major problem for him.


Hettie



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Re: NVDA links and buttons on websites

Sam Taylor
 

The website may be refreshing, but may not be alerting him to the fact that changes have occurred. Otherwise he could try focussing the review cursor on the button or link (Section 5.5 of the NVDA user guide), and either left clicking, or activating the current navigator object.

Activate current navigator object
Desktop: NVDA+numpadEnter
Laptop: NVDA+enter

Left mouse button click
Desktop: numpadDivide
Laptop: NVDA+[


Cheers

Sam


On 16/07/2020 8:44 pm, Hettie wrote:
Hi all

Is there any solution for links and buttons that doesn't react to the enter key on certain websites? Pressing the NVDA key and slash on the keypad doesn't work either. A friend of mine started at a new job and this presents a major problem for him.


Hettie




NVDA links and buttons on websites

Hettie
 

Hi all

Is there any solution for links and buttons that doesn't react to the enter key on certain websites? Pressing the NVDA key and slash on the keypad doesn't work either. A friend of mine started at a new job and this presents a major problem for him.


Hettie



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Re: A possible problem with the beta

Gene
 

I noticed the problem with a version that was older than the current version of betas but I didn't pay much attention to it because I use a much older version of NVDA usually. It does everything I want and its just easier to keep using it. But the recent nonbeta version I noticed this problem on has the same problem. I haven't tried announce cap for capital letters. I'll try it but I'm sure it will work.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 9:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A possible problem with the beta


Just checking Gene, the subject says possible problem with the beta, but in the message you say it's been an issue in recent versions - Is something different in the Beta? Does it recognise if you use one of the other options to report capitals (say cap or beep)? And can you otherwise change the pitch of the voice?

The last SAPI 4 issue I recall being involved in was this one: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8400 interestingly also about pitch - there was a problem if you set pitch to 100% (because in rounding it ended up trying to set it to 101% from memory, which was out of range). Actually, I never did get confirmation from the original user whether that issue was still present - so if you are interested, if you could check that issue out as well that would help too please.

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 2:02 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I use Via Voice with NVDA. It is installed by other programs I use and it
is unrestricted. If I use SAPI 4, Via Voice is used. I'm using Windows 7.
The capital pitch change doesn't work. I've verified this by trying many
pitch settings. Is this a more general problem or does it only affect MSAPI
4 or MSAPI4 when used with Via Voice? Which is another way of asking if the
problem is so limited it may not be worth addressing or if it’s a more
general one.

I've noticed this in recent versions of NVDA. I wonder if it is related to
the change in Python.

Gene








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Re: problems with braille and NVDA

Afik Souffir
 

 

Hi Sam,

 

Yes, hybrid mode is enabled off course.

When I press my arrows keys its doing cursor movement.

I have braille connection to NVDA.

 

 

 

 

Cordialement,

 

Afik Souffir

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Taylor via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 1:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problems with braille and NVDA

 

Hi Afik,

 

When you press the arrow keys on your QBraille, does it emulate cursor movement? Have you enabled hybrid mode?

Do you still have a Braille connection to NVDA? Does the same behaviour occur if you restart NVDA with addons disabled?

Thanks

Sam

 

On 16/07/2020 5:39 am, Afik Souffir wrote:

 

Hi,

 

I’m using NVDA RC 2020.2 and the latest version of braille extender.

 

For sevral days, sometimes, I can hear text, but its not shows on my braille display, in this case QBraille XL

 

 

Please help with this .

 

 

Afik

 

 

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office 2019 word and nvda

 

Hi.

I have not got a log for this but it happens every time I open office 2019 and then after closing it.

Nvda will stop responding for 10 seconds like look as if it just died but will eventually come back.

After that, nvda will not read the search box in windows properly in the start menu till I restart nvda.

I am not an office user though just an admin for a few systems with it.

Its happened on a couple systems and now another user on another list I am on reports this.

So I think it can be reproduced.


I have yet to look for a log, but since its happened on 3 other occasions I thought I'd ask here and see if someone else can confirm it for me and either get me to report it or set the ticket.


Re: NVDA Highlighter Window

Quentin Christensen
 

If it happens to come back and you happen to have NVDA set to record logs at Debug level, I'd be interested in a copy of the log.  It's not the desired behaviour (normally focus highlight doesn't require its own window), so if it does happen in a particular situation (and even better if we can narrow down what causes it) we can investigate.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 9:04 AM Laughing Thunder <laughingthunder26@...> wrote:

That's a little odd. If you have a checkbox that's half-checked, just use space to toggle it until it's unchecked. If you don't need the focus highlighting that is.

On 7/15/2020 4:00 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi

Thanks, I haven’t altered my settings recently and it suddenly appeared but has now gone.  I have just checked the Vision settings, Enable Highlighting is half-checked but I’ve no idea what that means   and Highlight System Focus is checked.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: Laughing Thunder
Sent: 15 July 2020 18:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Highlighter Window

 

If you have it set to highlight the focus, or browse mode cursors visually, that’s what this is. If you turn those off in the visuals category of the Settings dialogue, the window will go away. Otherwise, just ignore it as it’s related to the focus highlighting.



On Jul 15, 2020, at 5:40 AM, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:



Hi

I have a window on my task bar entitled “NVDA Highlighter Window” but when I attempt to switch focus to it, it is unavailable.  Any idea what this is?

I am using:

 

NVDA version 2020.1

Windows 10 Version 2004 (OS Build 19041.388)

 

Cheers

Chris

                                               

 

 


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