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Re: Questions Regarding The Donation Form on Nvaccess.org

Quentin Christensen
 

Cearbhall, re Ireland not coming up on the list, I think you're on the PayPal site by then?  We don't ask for a country ourselves.

Roger, thank you very much for your generous donation, we do very much appreciate it!  If you got *a* receipt then the money should have gone through, but I can check if you need (let me know off-list) - also, if you need a more official looking NV Access receipt on letterhead for whatever reason, let me know and I can organise that too - most people don't need that, which is why we don't send it out by default.

Quentin.

On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 10:37 AM Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

That’s fine, Brian, thanks for looking after it!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 9:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Making donation

 

Cearbhall,

            Just letting you know that I'm going to merge your question in with the other topic (Questions Regarding the Donation Form on NVAccess.org) about the donation page that's already running from today.  These come up again and again, most often when new releases come out, and I try to keep "a [single] donations page topic" per release cycle where I can.

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Re: Questions Regarding The Donation Form on Nvaccess.org

Quentin Christensen
 

Actually if he couldn't donate, I guess it's really OUR punishment!


On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 8:12 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 08:10 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
When I was on the donation page after selecting the Download option I was using a screen reader which was not NVDA.
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David, you faithless so-and-so!!  Your punishment awaits, and who knows when it will come?!

[Wait, I think it already did.]
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Re: new member to the group.

Quentin Christensen
 

Gene,

Where did you find that link?  I hadn't come across that site before, and its link to the original article is wrong.

The current Switching from Jaws to NVDA guide is here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA and has been updated since that other page was posted.



On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 7:54 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
What makesit look hard to use.  A good deal of what a lot of users do
involves Windows and program commands.  You can do quite a bit if you use a
different screen-reader even if you know nothing about the screen-reader
except for a few commands like read title bar.

As far ass an introduction to NVDA as a JAWS user is concerned, see this
page:
https://gttprogram.blog/2018/12/20/switching-from-jaws-to-nvda-nvaccess-nvda-community-wiki-%C2%B7-github/

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Rawls
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 2:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] new member to the group.



Hi all, I currently use jaws 18, and think it’s about time I learn how to
use NVDA.

It looks hard to use, but hope it isn’t. so any ideas you can pass along
will be greatly appreciated. Jim










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Re: NVDA keyboard help please

Andre Fisher
 

Hi.

Just as I thought this wasn't possible, because it never used to be, I tried it and it can definitely happen. So, your best bet is to press Windows+B, search for the NVDA icon and click it (Applications or Enter worked on my end, then go to the settings and set up your NVDA modifier key.


Re: Zoom Enhancements add-on

Bhavya shah
 

Dear Bob,

Yes, the Zoom Enhancements add-on works with NVDA 2020.4 at my end. An
additional tip I would give is to use the Speech History add-on;
whenever NVDA reads a chat but I miss it because I am multi-tasking or
don't hear it over the audio of the Zoom call itself, this add-on
allows me to review the last several items in NVDA's speech history,
and even copy it to the clipboard which I can then paste somewhere
convenient to read by line, word or character. It is a bit of a
juggle, and I wish the Zoom chat list was much more screen reader
friendly than it currently is natively, but well.

Thanks.

On 2/21/21, Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@gmail.com> wrote:
The issue, as I have stated before, isn't accessing the chat window as
it appears, but rather being alerted somehow that there is something
there for me to access. With NVDA 2020.4 and no add-on, it looks like
the chat messages are not read, but there was only one chat message
tonight and it looks like I caught it right away simply by routinely
checking, but I'd rather not have to constantly check the window.

On 2/21/21, Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
alt-h should take you to the chat window.
At 07:53 PM 2/21/2021, you wrote:
Hi all,
The meeting I've mentioned before where I will need access to the
chats as they come in is tonight. When I posted the question of how to
get NVDA to read chats in Zoom, I saw a suggestion of download the
Zoom Accessibility Enhancements add-on and toggle all alerts to on. I
was going to take that suggestion, but when looking at the page for
that add-on, it says the latest version of NVDA it is compatible with
is 2020.2, and I'm running 2020.4. Will this work? Since my meeting
starts in about 35 minutes, I probably won't download the add-on
tonight, but was wondering if it worked.
Bob











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Re: Zoom Enhancements add-on

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

The issue, as I have stated before, isn't accessing the chat window as
it appears, but rather being alerted somehow that there is something
there for me to access. With NVDA 2020.4 and no add-on, it looks like
the chat messages are not read, but there was only one chat message
tonight and it looks like I caught it right away simply by routinely
checking, but I'd rather not have to constantly check the window.

On 2/21/21, Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
alt-h should take you to the chat window.
At 07:53 PM 2/21/2021, you wrote:
Hi all,
The meeting I've mentioned before where I will need access to the
chats as they come in is tonight. When I posted the question of how to
get NVDA to read chats in Zoom, I saw a suggestion of download the
Zoom Accessibility Enhancements add-on and toggle all alerts to on. I
was going to take that suggestion, but when looking at the page for
that add-on, it says the latest version of NVDA it is compatible with
is 2020.2, and I'm running 2020.4. Will this work? Since my meeting
starts in about 35 minutes, I probably won't download the add-on
tonight, but was wondering if it worked.
Bob








Question about copy text announcement with NVDA 2020.4

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  Does the announcement of what is being copied to the clipboard in NVDA 2020.4 only occur in html environments, and if not, can it be enabled in other environments.  When I looked at the "What's New" section after installing 2020.4, all that was indicated was that the announcement would be made.  This was also true of the beta version.

Thanks,

Louise


Re: Zoom Enhancements add-on

Ann Byrne
 

alt-h should take you to the chat window.

At 07:53 PM 2/21/2021, you wrote:
Hi all,
The meeting I've mentioned before where I will need access to the
chats as they come in is tonight. When I posted the question of how to
get NVDA to read chats in Zoom, I saw a suggestion of download the
Zoom Accessibility Enhancements add-on and toggle all alerts to on. I
was going to take that suggestion, but when looking at the page for
that add-on, it says the latest version of NVDA it is compatible with
is 2020.2, and I'm running 2020.4. Will this work? Since my meeting
starts in about 35 minutes, I probably won't download the add-on
tonight, but was wondering if it worked.
Bob



Zoom Enhancements add-on

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

Hi all,
The meeting I've mentioned before where I will need access to the
chats as they come in is tonight. When I posted the question of how to
get NVDA to read chats in Zoom, I saw a suggestion of download the
Zoom Accessibility Enhancements add-on and toggle all alerts to on. I
was going to take that suggestion, but when looking at the page for
that add-on, it says the latest version of NVDA it is compatible with
is 2020.2, and I'm running 2020.4. Will this work? Since my meeting
starts in about 35 minutes, I probably won't download the add-on
tonight, but was wondering if it worked.
Bob


Re: Codefactory Eloquence with Latest Version of NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

I'm not familiar with it, however I don't use these voices regularly.  It would be worth checking with Code Factory themselves.  Their contact page is at: https://codefactoryglobal.com/contact-us/ and includes both a form and a link to their email address.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 2:45 AM <abhijitkasbe78@...> wrote:

hello!

i am using codefactory eloquence with NVDA.

but while using this i am not getting options like inflation , breathness and headness.

anyone is aware about this thing?



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Re: NVDA keyboard help please

Gene
 

I don't think your message addresses the problem.  The problem has nothing to do with double key strokes, it is that the NVDA keys don't work.
 
There may be another reason for this problem, which has come to light on another list. 
 
After a Windows update, someone no longer can use the JAWS key.  Since that is the same key as the NVDA key, it raises the question as to whether a Windows update has caused this problem for some users.  I don't know if the problem occurred immediately after the update or if it happened a little later, which may be important in whether it is the update or a keyboard problem. 
 
As I recall, in a later message, the person reports that their insert key no longer works at all.  Again, that may be an update problem or a keyboard problem.  We may get more information later.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA keyboard help please

Well I havn't had this, from time to time my enter key double presses and at one stage it got so bad that my system was deleting and doing all sorts of things.

I was about to just reformat when I noticed my usb hub that runs just about everything was turning off and on all the time.

I traced it to a faulty port on the power cube and have it plugged into my dedicated power cube on my desk.

This does use another port but that doesn't matter.

A lot of things have changed since I got upgrades to my room so who knows.

Double enter happens from time to time but its more annoying than anything else.

Sometimes keyboard focus switches due to something pressing itself but I just have to be aware and type slower and not be in a hurry while managing files.

Eventually I may have to replace this mechanical down the road.

Thank god I never eat or drink at the terminal, a thing some friends, students at my flat and family have a habbit of doing.

Computers do not mix with  human consumables.


On 22/02/2021 4:15 am, Gene wrote:
I doubt you did anything.  There is no single command to take the action that has happened.  I think it is very likely that you are having a problem I have off and on.  All my modifier keys stop working. 
 
Unload the program and run it again.  To unload it, open the system tray, Windows key b, and type n until you get to the NVDA icon. 
Open the context menu however you usually do it.  Up arrow to exitand press enter.  Then, press it again in a moment.
Now, run NVDA again.  The probem will very likely be solved.
 
I don't know how many people have this problem and how often.  I use Windows 7 so I haven't reported the problem.  I have no idea if I would have it or have it at all often in Windows 10.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 8:49 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA keyboard help please

I am not sure how I did this, but I disabled my NVDA keys, not only numlock zero key, but as if that wasn't enough, the capslock key also. How can I restore that? Thank you so much.





Re: Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

 

Even curiouser, when I'm having NVDA read my immediately prior message, in the web interface, it is saying "teeny tiny down arrow" for that character.

But when I continue on to the one previous to that, when it hits it it announces, "fill down pointing small triangle."

This is really, really weird.  Really weird!
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Re: Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

 

And a follow-up:

When in Tbird, after having made the previously noted dictionary change, when I land on my inbox, where the▾immediately precedes the number of messages, it reads something that sounds like "fill" or "field" (more like the former) tiny down arrow.

I am absolutely certain that the "fill" was not being said in my initial test in Notepad, but when I revisit notpad it now is.  And it continues to be said even after Thunderbird is closed.

I closed NVDA, reopened it, and edited the dictionary entry, during which NVDA said that "fill" when in the pattern, and it had not before, but I edited my replacement string to "teeny tiny down arrow."  When I had NVDA read the line above with said character in it, after the edit, it says only "teeny tiny down arrow."

Curiouser and curiouser.


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Re: Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

 

By the way, I just put an entry in the default dictionary with the pattern being the single character: ▾
the replacement string being: tiny down arrow
the match type being: whole word.

After that's saved, I had NVDA read the following line that I'd created in Notepad: Now is the time ▾ for all ▾ good men to come to ▾ the aid of their party.

All three tiny down arrow characters were announced as "tiny down arrow."
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Re: Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

 

On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 04:51 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
When I tried using the ▾  as the pattern and replacing it with the word unread, nothing changed.

Are you positive that the item you're testing this on afterward has the downward pointing small triangle present?

When I try to search for that character, copied and pasted from your line, which I'm going to presume was copied straight from the source, I get nothing back in Character Map.

My gut still says to me that this is an issue with Thunderbird, not NVDA, but if it is then I'd imagine that NVDA 2020.3 would announce the same thing that 2020.4 does, and I don't think that's the case.
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Re: Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

I tried following the steps indicated in this thread but it did not work. Actually what it should be saying is the word unread in place of that symbol., When I tried using the ▾  as the pattern and replacing it with the word unread, nothing changed.

On 2/21/2021 4:24 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Even though this topic was launched first, the more recent one asking about this issue has a title that is far more indicative regarding the actual issue:  Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

Thus, this topic, +Strange thing in Nvda, shall be merged into the more descriptive one as soon as I finish posting this message.  If others wish to discuss workarounds further, please post to the "Oddity" topic.
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Re: Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Dan,

I would have used the dictionary of some sort if I could actually isolate the odd figure/oration. But with Mozilla Thunderbird as well as Firefox, you can't isolate this item using the screen review or object review feature. When you switch to those modes and try moving to the status line where this odd character appears, all you get is 'blank' reported.


On 2/21/2021 3:57 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:

Yep, I have this behavior too. 



wonder if there is a way to stop this using the pronunciation dictionary.  It isn't a big show stopper for me but it would lessen the verbiage spoken.


Dan Beaver

On 2/21/2021 1:55 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

This issue began with the latest version of NVDA version 2020.4. When I voe to the Tree View of folders using the F6 key and arrow up and down I hear something like 'inbox fill down pointing small tirangle' followed by the number of unread messages in the folder. This is with sub foldrs located under the inbox and with the tree branch closed with the left arrow.

Does anyone else experience anything like this? This occurs with all installed synthesizers and voices and with variation of punctuation with all, some, most and characters. It stops only when I turn punctuation to none.

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Re: Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Brian,

The link you provided gives an error 404 file not found page.


On 2/21/2021 2:05 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
+Strange thing in Nvda

Topic started yesterday, and should still be in your inbox.
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Re: Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

 

Even though this topic was launched first, the more recent one asking about this issue has a title that is far more indicative regarding the actual issue:  Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

Thus, this topic, +Strange thing in Nvda, shall be merged into the more descriptive one as soon as I finish posting this message.  If others wish to discuss workarounds further, please post to the "Oddity" topic.
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Re: Oddity With NVDA And Thunderbird with Inbox status Line

Dan Beaver
 

And I have my wondering answered too.  ;)


Dan Beaver

On 2/21/2021 2:13 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 08:54 AM, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:
How did you do it?
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Using the NVDA Dictionaries with Regular Expression Matching to Change Pronunciations (docx)

In this case, you need not use regular expression matching, since this is for a single character.  You can copy and paste that character, which has been in several messages in this topic and can be snagged from one of them, and use it in a Whole Word match rather than a regular expression match.

The tutorial goes through the steps, which are exactly the same as far as adding a dictionary entry, but I focused on regular expression matching.  It's a simple enough matter to use the Whole Word radio button as is appropriate here.

 
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