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Re: Enquiry about add-ons for Audio Production Software

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

I would say the most accessible DAW with NVDA, is Reaper.

Check out http://www.reaperaccessibility.com.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Dyasi
Sent: 08 May 2021 22:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Enquiry about add-ons for Audio Production Software

Hello everyone, I just want to know if anyone has, or is there any add on for: ProTools on Windows, Abelson live, studio one, or any other recording software that producers are using out there?

I have a friend that wants to use machine, but Is struggling immensely to control the parameters of machine.

I would love to go back to my ProTools, because I have the license, and get myself immersed in everything about ProTools, but my only option seems to go only on the Mac.

I would really love to hear more about this if anyone can tell me about it, hope all of you have a lovely day.

Charlie
South Africa.


Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

 

which voices i recieve if i download your zip folder?
thanks and God bless you!

On 5/9/21, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi


I do not know what format speech platform voices are. I thought they
were sapi 5 but does not say.


I do have a complete package of them with other languages in a zip
format. but is about 400 meg.


They if i remember right have also the modern RH voices as well. You
will need a program like winrar or winzip to open then install from.


The link to this drop box account is
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9kh3aip9atldlho/synth%20packages.zip?dl=1
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/9kh3aip9atldlho/synth%20packages.zip?dl=1>


for the speech platform voices the runtime file must be installed first
all the rest are voices.


Gene nz


On 9/05/2021 1:28 pm, Louise Pfau wrote:
Rats. I like the quality of the Microsoft voices. I want to get a
few more of them in SAPI format if that's possible. I know that
"Windows OneCore" isn't the same thing.

Thanks,

Louise








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Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Luke Davis
 

Monte Single wrote:

I thought nvda used one core voices by default in win10.
You thought correctly, it does. But you can switch to SAPI5 if you have some reason to.

Luke


Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


I do not know what format speech platform voices are. I thought they were sapi 5 but does not say.


I do have a complete package of them with other languages in a zip format. but is about 400 meg.


They if i remember right have also the modern RH voices as well. You will need a program like winrar or winzip to open then install from.


The link to this drop box account is https://www.dropbox.com/s/9kh3aip9atldlho/synth%20packages.zip?dl=1 <https://www.dropbox.com/s/9kh3aip9atldlho/synth%20packages.zip?dl=1>


for the speech platform voices the runtime file must be installed first all the rest are voices.


Gene nz

On 9/05/2021 1:28 pm, Louise Pfau wrote:
Rats.  I like the quality of the Microsoft voices.  I want to get a few more of them in SAPI format if that's possible.  I know that "Windows OneCore" isn't the same thing.

Thanks,

Louise




Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Gene
 

As far as I know, One Core voices are the default in Windows 10.  But you can switch to Microsoft MSAPI 5 voices as I understand it, which are available and I think at least a small number are provided as a part of Windows 10 as installed. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2021 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a couple questions sparked by recent topics
 
Ha, ha, Luke,

That's pretty good,  I'm wrong two out of two.
I thought nvda used  one core voices by default in win10.
That's alright,  I like one core zara  and I guess I could choose a spai5
voice for  a particular profile.

Cheers,

Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: May 8, 2021 6:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Monte Single wrote:

> I think the voices you mentioned are Micro Soft One Core voices that come
with win10.

Sorry Monte, but they are SAPI5 voices that come with Win 10.
You can confirm this by pressing NVDA+Control+s, changing your synth to
SAPI5, and pressing OK.
Then pressing NVDA+control+v, and going through the voices that are listed.

I believe this was originally an install of Windows 10, 1809, and I
certainly never chose to download any SAPI voices.

> The second voice you mentioned, Zira, is actually spelled z a r a, Zara.

I'm sorry again, but no, it isn't. If you spell the word as it appears in
NVDA's voice list when set to SAPI5, you will find that it is Zira, Z i r a,
as Louise mentioned.

Luke











Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Monte Single
 

Ha, ha, Luke,

That's pretty good, I'm wrong two out of two.
I thought nvda used one core voices by default in win10.
That's alright, I like one core zara and I guess I could choose a spai5
voice for a particular profile.

Cheers,

Monte

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: May 8, 2021 6:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Monte Single wrote:

I think the voices you mentioned are Micro Soft One Core voices that come
with win10.

Sorry Monte, but they are SAPI5 voices that come with Win 10.
You can confirm this by pressing NVDA+Control+s, changing your synth to
SAPI5, and pressing OK.
Then pressing NVDA+control+v, and going through the voices that are listed.

I believe this was originally an install of Windows 10, 1809, and I
certainly never chose to download any SAPI voices.

The second voice you mentioned, Zira, is actually spelled z a r a, Zara.
I'm sorry again, but no, it isn't. If you spell the word as it appears in
NVDA's voice list when set to SAPI5, you will find that it is Zira, Z i r a,
as Louise mentioned.

Luke


Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Martin Courcelles
 

Actually those voices are available. You'll have to install the English Canadian pack to get it though.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: May 8, 2021 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Hi,
Highly unlikely, as SAPI5 voices for Windows depend on the user interface language. By the way, Microsoft David has been a part of SAPI5 engine since Windows 8.0.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Louise Pfau
Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 6:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a couple questions sparked by recent topics

There are also SAPI 5 versions of "Microsoft david" and "Microsoft Zira (spelled Z I R A on my computer)" available by default on Windows 10. I wonder if other "Windows OneCore voices" like "Microsoft Richard" and "Microsoft Mark " are also available in SAPI 5 format.

Thanks,

Louise


Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Louise Pfau
 

Rats. I like the quality of the Microsoft voices. I want to get a few more of them in SAPI format if that's possible. I know that "Windows OneCore" isn't the same thing.

Thanks,

Louise


Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Louise Pfau
 

I don't know the originally-installed build number of Windows 10 on this computer, because I didn't know how to access "Winver" at the time. The computer has had many updates since then.

Thanks,

Louise


Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

 

Hi,
Highly unlikely, as SAPI5 voices for Windows depend on the user interface language. By the way, Microsoft David has been a part of SAPI5 engine since Windows 8.0.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Louise Pfau
Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 6:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a couple questions sparked by recent topics

There are also SAPI 5 versions of "Microsoft david" and "Microsoft Zira (spelled Z I R A on my computer)" available by default on Windows 10. I wonder if other "Windows OneCore voices" like "Microsoft Richard" and "Microsoft Mark " are also available in SAPI 5 format.

Thanks,

Louise


Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

 

Hi,
OneCore voices' lineage can be sort of traced to now discontinued Windows 10
Mobile, as the mobile voices are really meant for smartphones and used more
modern API called Windows Runtime, nowadays part of Universal Windows
Platform (UWP). Believe it or not, because UWP is a different API,
developers must write code that will interface with it, including ones used
to interact with OneCore voices. There is a special version of C++ called
C++/CX (extensions) that was specifically designed to let C++ modules such
as ones that come with NVDA to use UWP, but that's slowly changing (in fact,
NVDA's OneCore voices support is divided into two parts: the usual
Python-based synthesizer driver, and a C++ component used to talk to Windows
10 API's and features via C++/CX).
Recently a code contributor (not I) was researching regular C++ projections
for UWP (a projection is a set of components used to let programmers
familiar with various languages to talk to a specific API) called C++/WinRT
that will allow any C++ programmer familiar with recent C++ standard to use
UWP without using proprietary extensions or a programming language. The
biggest advantage for NVDA project is making C++-based contributions
significantly easier, as anyone wishing to support Windows 10 features
through UWP can now just use C++ that they have known - all that is needed
is a more recent Windows 10 SDK and a header file. In context of this
thread, this means OneCore voices and their features support can be coded in
familiar C++ (I guess this gives me a motivation to revisit my own C++ notes
from a decade ago...).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 5:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Monte Single wrote:

I think the voices you mentioned are Micro Soft One Core voices that come
with win10.

Sorry Monte, but they are SAPI5 voices that come with Win 10.
You can confirm this by pressing NVDA+Control+s, changing your synth to
SAPI5, and pressing OK.
Then pressing NVDA+control+v, and going through the voices that are listed.

I believe this was originally an install of Windows 10, 1809, and I
certainly never chose to download any SAPI voices.

The second voice you mentioned, Zira, is actually spelled z a r a, Zara.
I'm sorry again, but no, it isn't. If you spell the word as it appears in
NVDA's voice list when set to SAPI5, you will find that it is Zira, Z i r a,
as Louise mentioned.

Luke


Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Louise Pfau
 

There are also SAPI 5 versions of "Microsoft david" and "Microsoft Zira (spelled Z I R A on my computer)" available by default on Windows 10. I wonder if other "Windows OneCore voices" like "Microsoft Richard" and "Microsoft Mark " are also available in SAPI 5 format.

Thanks,

Louise


Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Luke Davis
 

Monte Single wrote:

I think the voices you mentioned are Micro Soft One Core voices that come with win10.
Sorry Monte, but they are SAPI5 voices that come with Win 10.
You can confirm this by pressing NVDA+Control+s, changing your synth to SAPI5, and pressing OK.
Then pressing NVDA+control+v, and going through the voices that are listed.

I believe this was originally an install of Windows 10, 1809, and I certainly never chose to download any SAPI voices.

The second voice you mentioned, Zira, is actually spelled z a r a, Zara.
I'm sorry again, but no, it isn't. If you spell the word as it appears in NVDA's voice list when set to SAPI5, you will find that it is Zira, Z i r a, as Louise mentioned.

Luke


Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Monte Single
 

Hi Louise,

I think the voices you mentioned are Micro Soft One Core voices that come with win10.
Sapi5 voices come with earlier versions of windows or can be downloaded and used with win 10.
The second voice you mentioned, Zira, is actually spelled z a r a, Zara.
That is the voice I use with nvda on this win10 p c.

Others on this listmay tell you where to find other one core voices or other sapi5 voices.

Cheers,

Monte

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Louise Pfau
Sent: May 8, 2021 6:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Hi. I was thinking of getting more SAPI voices like the ones that come with Windows 10 by default. I think they are Microsoft David and Microsoft Zira.
Are there others in the same category?

Thanks,

Louise


Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Louise Pfau
 

Hi. I was thinking of getting more SAPI voices like the ones that come with Windows 10 by default. I think they are Microsoft David and Microsoft Zira. Are there others in the same category?

Thanks,

Louise


Re: Enquiry about add-ons for Audio Production Software

Chris Smart
 

On 2021-05-08 7:12 p.m., Luke Davis wrote:
Charlie Dyasi wrote:

Reaper, I have it installed on my laptop, but my laptop is so old, it takes for ever just open up reaper at least in half an hour.
Half an hour? Seriously?


Reaper itself is very light on resources.


Re: Enquiry about add-ons for Audio Production Software

dennis huckle
 

Luke,
The only add on I can find is the one for goldwave.
Not really looked in to how it works yet because you will know I have been researching braille commands for nvda and braille displays.
The goldwave add on is in the list of add ons listed in get addons.
Not much help I know but hope it puts you in the right direction.
Kind regards,
Dennis huckle.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: 09 May 2021 00:13
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Enquiry about add-ons for Audio Production Software

Charlie Dyasi wrote:

Reaper, I have it installed on my laptop, but my laptop is so old, it takes for ever just open up reaper at least in half an hour.
I suspect you will have that problem with any of the high-end audio software. Even Audacity doesn't perform well on older machines, at least not for transcoding or FX tasks.
I can't imagine that Protools will either; it has always been a resource hog.

Luke


Re: Enquiry about add-ons for Audio Production Software

Luke Davis
 

Charlie Dyasi wrote:

Reaper, I have it installed on my laptop, but my laptop is so old, it takes for ever just open up reaper at least in half an hour.
I suspect you will have that problem with any of the high-end audio software. Even Audacity doesn't perform well on older machines, at least not for transcoding or FX tasks.
I can't imagine that Protools will either; it has always been a resource hog.

Luke


Re: Enquiry about add-ons for Audio Production Software

Roger Stewart
 

I use Gold Wave, Audacity and mp3 Direct Cut.  Don't know what your requirements are, but Audacity is the most versatile multi track editor.  Gold wave  also excellent.

Roger

On 5/8/2021 4:33 PM, Charlie Dyasi wrote:
Hello everyone, I just want to know if anyone has, or is there any add on for: ProTools on Windows, Abelson live, studio one, or any other recording software that producers are using out there?

I have a friend that wants to use machine, but Is struggling immensely to control the parameters of machine.

I would love to go back to my ProTools, because I have the license, and get myself immersed in everything about ProTools, but my only option seems to go only on the Mac.

I would really love to hear more about this if anyone can tell me about it, hope all of you have a lovely day.

Charlie
South Africa.




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Re: Using gmail with "Basic HTML view" vs. "standard view"

Pauline Smith
 

I also use the Basic HTML view in my Gmail account.  This was the setting recommended on the website.  I will read the responses to gather tips on how to navigate with NVDA if using Standard View.

Pauline

On 5/5/2021 4:28 PM, Louise Pfau wrote:
Hi.  I find it easier to navigate the gmail interface with “Basic HTML view” vs. “Standard view”.  This is probably due to the fact that when I was first taught how to set up and work with my gmail account, I was instructed to use “Basic HTML view” in order to get the most accessible interface. I know this is not strictly related to NVDA though.
 
Louise

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