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Re: Not able to open pdf file
Kerryn Gunness
you all can use acrobat reader DC
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From: "Mallard" <mallard@kimabe.eu> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Not able to open pdf file Adobe seems to have all sorts of issues these days. I have the same problems with Adobe Digital Editions... Ciao, Ollie Il 02/11/2018 16:13, farhan israk ha scritto:
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Re: Not able to open pdf file
Mallard
Adobe seems to have all sorts of issues these days. I have the same problems with Adobe Digital Editions...
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Ciao, Ollie
Il 02/11/2018 16:13, farhan israk ha scritto:
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Re: Automatically converting EPUB to EPUB3
Mallard
Travis,
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epub3 is a special type of file, where you have audio and text that can be synched, for instance, for dyslexic readers. I guess that's the reason why one would want to convert epub's to epub3's. Ciao, Ollie
Il 02/11/2018 16:43, Travis Siegel ha scritto:
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Re: Automatically converting EPUB to EPUB3
Mallard
Hello,
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Yes, Calibre can be used from a command line in Windows as well. Ciao, Ollie
Il 02/11/2018 16:52, Antony Stone ha scritto:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPUB3
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Re: NVDA and ribbon menues
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Gene wrote:
I am skeptical and suspicious of ribbon removing programs. I suspect you lose functionality when you try to force one interface to become another interface. I hope people comment on that.I honestly can't say whether you lose functionality or not, simply because there are options in what one can get for an "interface changer" as well as the fact that "losing functionality" is definitely based on what a given individual generally uses. There are scads of bells and whistles that have been added over the years that I, or any given person, just don't use and we don't care one whit whether they're available to us or not. The above being said, it makes no sense to keep shoe-horning OS operating environments into looking like something that was an ancestor. Eventually that breaks, but more importantly it quite literally hobbles one's ability to use the OS as the OS is. Unless you are someone who will never, ever touch another computer, anywhere, that runs the same OS as yours does you will be left wandering in the proverbial forest when you actually have to deal with the user interface as designed and shipped. There is no good reason to do that, period. Nothing is so constant as change, and as far as Windows 10 goes it's far more like Windows 7 and earlier in the overall UI than Windows 8 or 8.1 were. I have not yet had a blind or visually impaired client go through an extended "tearing my hair out" period when they transitioned to Windows 10. You can do most tweaks within the UI provided to make it feel very familiar without actually putting the mask that is an interface changer on top of it. The fact of the matter is, blind or not, when it comes to technology you either go with the flow or you eventually get drowned. And those that most actively resist the flow tend to get dragged under first. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance. Huge. We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors. ~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)
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Re: a new modified nv-speech player
Ann Byrne
So. I downloaded the Jason folder. What do I do next???
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At 10:44 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
Hi,
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Success, Spybot with NVDA Installed
David Russell
Hello Group,
I just installed Spybot successfully and all is well. By pressing alt-r in the saved file from downloads, I was able to install. Thanks. -- David Russell david.sonofhashem@gmail.com
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Re: a new modified nv-speech player
Gene
I just tried the add-on. I see no voice
variatns, and it sounds nothing like Eloquence. Also, the way many plosive
consonants are spoken as a really annoying tinny sound. I find this
extremely annoying to listen to, such consonants as k or t are almost like
clicks. While the actual voices themselves have been improved in terms of
sound, the accent and the plosive consonant problem causes the overall quality
orf speech to be very poor.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 10:44 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] a new modified nv-speech player Hi,
A few years back nv-access made an improved ESpeak that was called nv-speech player. Since then a few people have greatly improved it! I just tried it a few minutes ago and it sounds great! It sounds almost exactly like eloquence, sort of, or maybe keynote gold, kind of. There is other stuff on this site which I will not discuss for legal reasons. And please just ignore that other *stuff*. Just focus on the free nv speech player! First, the website with the modded and improved speech player stuff. Direct link.
http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/
Now here is my favorite version of the speech player addon modified by Jason bratcher. Perhaps, with this new speech player, someone can modify its intonations and make a keynote gold speech player voice? And give it more languages?
http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/Jason%20Bratcher_speechPlayerInEspeak.nvda-addon
more speech player voices.
http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/voices.7z
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Re: Automatically converting EPUB to EPUB3
Antony Stone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPUB3
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I'm not familiar with Calibre on Windows, but on Mac OS/X and Linux, it can be used as a command-line tool, so these conversions could easily be scripted. Antony.
On Friday 02 November 2018 at 16:43:38, Travis Siegel wrote:
I've never heard of epub3. If the files are already epub, why do you --
Python is executable pseudocode. Perl is executable line noise. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Re: a new modified nv-speech player
Gene
I've seen claims before about how improved versions
of E-Speak sound like or almost like Eloquence. I've never found it to be
the case and I'm very skeptical now. Your hedging makes me more
suspicious. Almost like Eloquence, sort of, is a very hedged
statement.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 10:44 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] a new modified nv-speech player Hi,
A few years back nv-access made an improved ESpeak that was called nv-speech player. Since then a few people have greatly improved it! I just tried it a few minutes ago and it sounds great! It sounds almost exactly like eloquence, sort of, or maybe keynote gold, kind of. There is other stuff on this site which I will not discuss for legal reasons. And please just ignore that other *stuff*. Just focus on the free nv speech player! First, the website with the modded and improved speech player stuff. Direct link.
http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/
Now here is my favorite version of the speech player addon modified by Jason bratcher. Perhaps, with this new speech player, someone can modify its intonations and make a keynote gold speech player voice? And give it more languages?
http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/Jason%20Bratcher_speechPlayerInEspeak.nvda-addon
more speech player voices.
http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/voices.7z
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Re: Help Please NVDA With Spybot Cont.
Gene
There is a feature called secure desktop in Windows
10 that you will have to turn off. I don't know more than that. I
don't use Windows 10.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: David Russell
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 10:25 AM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] Help Please NVDA With Spybot Cont. Brian and all, thanks for the input thus far. Let me try and walk you through what happens. - I go to the link you provided and press enter on the Spybot Free Edition. - At the appropriate juncture, I press enter on download and enter on save. - I then go to the desktop, go to my download folder, find the Spybot file, press enter, and press enter on run to set up. It is there, that NVDA says something to the effect, Desktop secured. Nothing happens after waiting several moments. Yes, I am sure files delete from the download folder when deleted. I will get a number stating files remaining. There must be a setting in FireFox preventing me from running a setup, but do not have an idea what it would be. Any clues? I assume the file downloads because it is in the download folder. Thanks again. -- David Russell david.sonofhashem@...
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a new modified nv-speech player
Josh Kennedy
Hi,
A few years back nv-access made an improved ESpeak that was called nv-speech player. Since then a few people have greatly improved it! I just tried it a few minutes ago and it sounds great! It sounds almost exactly like eloquence, sort of, or maybe keynote gold, kind of. There is other stuff on this site which I will not discuss for legal reasons. And please just ignore that other *stuff*. Just focus on the free nv speech player! First, the website with the modded and improved speech player stuff. Direct link.
http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/
Now here is my favorite version of the speech player addon modified by Jason bratcher. Perhaps, with this new speech player, someone can modify its intonations and make a keynote gold speech player voice? And give it more languages?
http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/Jason%20Bratcher_speechPlayerInEspeak.nvda-addon
more speech player voices.
http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/voices.7z
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: Automatically converting EPUB to EPUB3
Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
I've never heard of epub3. If the files are already epub, why do you need to convert them to anything else? Epub files are perfectly accessible all by themselves. But, to answer your question, as far as I know, it is relatively
easy to get calibre to convert to any format you like by default.
Just set the epub3 to your default format, then any file you copy
into it's startup folder will automaticlaly be converted into
epub3. It's been quite a while since I've played around with
calibre, so I don't know the exact steps for setting formats and
automatic conversions and such, but it is possible, and folks do
this sort of thing all the time. On 11/2/2018 3:49 AM, Sociohack AC
wrote:
Hello group!
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Help Please NVDA With Spybot Cont.
David Russell
Hello again,
Brian and all, thanks for the input thus far. Let me try and walk you through what happens. - I go to the link you provided and press enter on the Spybot Free Edition. - At the appropriate juncture, I press enter on download and enter on save. - I then go to the desktop, go to my download folder, find the Spybot file, press enter, and press enter on run to set up. It is there, that NVDA says something to the effect, Desktop secured. Nothing happens after waiting several moments. Yes, I am sure files delete from the download folder when deleted. I will get a number stating files remaining. There must be a setting in FireFox preventing me from running a setup, but do not have an idea what it would be. Any clues? I assume the file downloads because it is in the download folder. Thanks again. -- David Russell david.sonofhashem@gmail.com
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Re: NVDA and ribbon menues
Gene
I'm not saying you shouldn't discuss these things,
but you make it sound as though a lot of people will have serious
problems. That is what I disagree with. and I said, when
properly taught. There is a lot of inferior teaching about ribbons.
And I suspect the reason the Microsoft representative said to embrace ribbons is
for the reason I said, that you lose functionality or features when you try to
force ribbons to be menus. But others will have to comment on
that.
As far as the JAWS attempt to force ribbons to be
menus, see this article. It discusses the inconveniences and problems
encountered when you use the JAWS system.
Gene
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Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and ribbon menues users, but some people on here think that once you grasp the concept they are in fact easy. Its a classic case of the way your brain visualises the concepts. I did notice Jaws can be set to pretend they are normal menus, but my feeling here is that since you can use a simple add on to alter them ie ribbon remover, then I see no reason why Microsoft do not offer the themselves, but in a recent interview with Jenny at Microsoft she merely said, Embrace the ribbon, which I took to mean they are dogmatically against it. Bah humbug I say. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 6:46 PM Subject: [nvda] NVDA and ribbon menues > Running latest NVDA and Win 10 1809. > > The old addage of teaching a old dog new tricks fits this situation. > Having great difficulty in using the ribbon while in file explorer. Are > there any tutorials as how to use such ribbons? > > Thanks > > > > >
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Re: Virtual dub 2.
Yeah. I tried it this morning to do a bit of video editing, tried it from a few MKV files I ripped from DVD's and it seems to be just as accessible as the old. I can't find the git hub page though. It is open source, but from my experience, blind developers tend to do their own version of whatever. Still, I like the program because I can't find an accessible, modern, video editor anywhere and this is the best we have, for now.
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Re: Not able to open pdf file
farhan israk
Adobe reader shows not responding.
On Fri, 2 Nov 2018, 7:51 pm Sylvie Duchateau <sduchateau@... wrote:
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Re: NVDA and ribbon menues
Gene
You have a problem, as you said . Most
people learn ribbons without a lot of trouble. It may take them a little
time but if taught properly, they don't find them a major problem. You are
discouraging people from learning ribbons.
I am skeptical and suspicious of ribbon removing
programs. I suspect you lose functionality when you try to force one
interface to become another interface. I hope people comment on
that.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and ribbon menues users, but some people on here think that once you grasp the concept they are in fact easy. Its a classic case of the way your brain visualises the concepts. I did notice Jaws can be set to pretend they are normal menus, but my feeling here is that since you can use a simple add on to alter them ie ribbon remover, then I see no reason why Microsoft do not offer the themselves, but in a recent interview with Jenny at Microsoft she merely said, Embrace the ribbon, which I took to mean they are dogmatically against it. Bah humbug I say. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 6:46 PM Subject: [nvda] NVDA and ribbon menues > Running latest NVDA and Win 10 1809. > > The old addage of teaching a old dog new tricks fits this situation. > Having great difficulty in using the ribbon while in file explorer. Are > there any tutorials as how to use such ribbons? > > Thanks > > > > >
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Re: Not able to open pdf file
Sylvie Duchateau
Hello, Can you explain what happens when you open the PDF file with NVDA? You press enter on the file and nothing happens? If you open it with Jaws, then you try to read it with NVDA, is there a difference? Best Sylvie
Le 02/11/2018 à 14:47, farhan israk a écrit :
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Re: NVDA and ribbon menues
Agreed. I also hate the ribbon, but I had to learn it in my computer class in 2008. My teacher also didn't know what he was doing as he got that version of word the day before so we were both learning together. So learn it or get left behind is what I say. I'm getting gleft behind. Lol!
On 2 Nov 2018, at 6:18, Brian Vogel wrote:
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