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Re: Issue switching between browse & focus mode with NVDA+Spacebar

Gene
 

It is supposed to do that.  it is a toggle that switches between the two modes, that is, browse mode on and browse mode off.  You can't turn it off.  Maybe you can reassign the command to different keys, but you clearly didn't because the command is working. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Danni
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2020 11:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] Uhhh

somehow I changed a setting so when I hit space bar and insert key at the same time it switches from brouse mode to focus and I can't figure out how to make it stop?
 

Re: Issue switching between browse & focus mode with NVDA+Spacebar

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Danni,

As mentioned, that's the expected behaviour - it forces NVDA to change modes even when it doesn't want to automatically (on the web it also keeps NVDA in the new mode even if you do something that would otherwise change modes, eg moving onto an edit box - that can be useful for a form which jumps between controls and instructions and otherwise jumps between modes constantly.  

What are you trying to do (with NVDA+spacebar) otherwise?

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 4:54 PM Danni <luv2ride67@...> wrote:
somehow I changed a setting so when I hit space bar and insert key at the same time it switches from brouse mode to focus and I can't figure out how to make it stop?
 



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Re: re-appearance of an issue with Speech Viewer?

Quentin Christensen
 

I opened an issue for this.  No resolution yet, although I did investigate that it doesn't happen with braille viewer etc:  https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/10791


On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 6:10 AM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

Looks like either a regression or something got corrupted in settings. I think someone wrote an issue on GitHub so developers might be aware of this issue.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Giles Turnbull
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 6:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] re-appearance of an issue with Speech Viewer?

 

Hi Joseph,
I'm using voice Microsoft Zira Desktop - English (United States) with the  Microsoft Speech API version 5 synthesiser.

I've just tried it with one of the other voices in SAPI5, Hazel, and the speech viewer window is also not closing with Alt+F4. Zera is my day-to-day voice and I'm sure Alt+F4 would close the Speech Viewer window before the update to NVDA 2019.3

Giles



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Re: Issue switching between browse & focus mode with NVDA+Spacebar

 

i don't think you changed anything. It is supposed to do this.






On 3/2/2020 12:49 AM, Danni wrote:
somehow I changed a setting so when I hit space bar and insert key at the same time it switches from brouse mode to focus and I can't figure out how to make it stop?
 

Issue switching between browse & focus mode with NVDA+Spacebar

Danni
 

somehow I changed a setting so when I hit space bar and insert key at the same time it switches from brouse mode to focus and I can't figure out how to make it stop?
 

Re: Number Pad

Quentin Christensen
 

Sorry didn't see this message when I replied just now as it wasn't a reply to the original one.

Numlock isn't part of NVDA's review modes - it's just a function of your keyboard to let your number pad keys serve two functions.

Re review modes, there is a short explanation in the User Guide: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#ReviewModes

Regards
Quentin.

On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 6:41 AM Howard Traxler <htraxler7@...> wrote:
Sorry, simple solution:  So I restarted the computer and had the same
problem.  Pressed the numlock key; fixed it.  Still have to learn how to
use the various review modes.  Is there an easy-to-understand
explanation of them?

Howard

On 2/28/2020 1:08 PM, Howard Traxler via Groups.Io wrote:
> Hi all,
> Running NVDA (the version before current) on my HP desktop with
> keyboard set to laptop.  Until now, I've been able to use review
> functions with the number pad.  All of a sudden, it stopped working. 
> I restarted NVDA but no change.  Any ideas?
>
> Thanks.
> Howard
>
>
>






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Re: Number Pad

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Howard,

We do have an issue to investigate this layout (users with keypads but not navigation keys would like to have the number pad object navigation / review cursor commands work only in desktop layout, or at least be selectable since there is a set of laptop layout keys for these functions as well).  In any case, we haven't changed anything yet.  Could you have numlock on?  (always worth checking the simple things).  Failing that, if you press NVDA+1 to turn input help on, what does it read when you press the number pad keys?  (Press NVDA+1 to turn input help off when done).

Regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 6:08 AM Howard Traxler <htraxler7@...> wrote:
Hi all,
Running NVDA (the version before current) on my HP desktop with keyboard
set to laptop.  Until now, I've been able to use review functions with
the number pad.  All of a sudden, it stopped working.  I restarted NVDA
but no change.  Any ideas?

Thanks.
Howard





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Re: Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Gene
 

I wasn't sure what commands you were discussing before.  Now, I'll comment on them:
You shouldn't have turned off
insert +keyboard 6 carrot moves review cursor toggle on/off,
and insert + keyboard 7focus moves navigator object toggle on/off.  These are on by default and the point is to have the object navigator move as you move in a program such as a word processor or in lists or on the desktop or wherever you are moving.  If you want to move the object navigator to a certain place on the screen and stay there while you did things in programs or Windows so that when you return to the program where you left it, it would still be there and you could check the information on that part of the screen simply with a read current line of the object navigator command, numpad 8, or read current word of object navigator, numpad 5.  In general, though, you would want these settings on so the object navigator would follow where you move.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2020 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Hi Gene,

In one of the previous messages I sent, I postulated that I might have changed some settings that caused the issue in the first place. You can make quick changes to Let's see, I'll press each one of these as I write this:

insert + 2 speak typed characters toggle on/off
insert + keyboard 3 speak typed words toggle on/off
insert+ keyboard 4 toggle command keys on/off
insert + keyboard 5 report dynamic changes toggle on/off
insert +keyboard 6 carrot moves review cursor toggle on/off
insert + keyboard 7focus moves navigator object toggle on/off
insert + keyboard 8 automatically set system focus to focus able elements on/off

Three of these settings had been turned off.  I turned two of them back on and the problem went away.  The only one I don't have on is the speak command keys item.  That's a pain if it's on.



On 3/1/2020 8:19 PM, Gene wrote:
I can't tell what you are describing.  You can use either insert, the numpad insert or the other insert but you must use the keys on the numpad for hearing what we are discussing.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2020 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Hi Gene,

I am using a desktop PC.  I pressed the insert key and then keyboard
(not numpad) numbers on the top line of the keyboard numbers 2 through 8.


On 3/1/2020 7:49 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
> Hi
>
>
> Where abouts were those settings were they in a add on? or did you do
> it some where else?
>
>
> Gene nz
>
>
> On 2/03/2020 1:30 pm, Ron Canazzi wrote:
>> Hi Gene,
>>
>> I played around with some of the settings.  I am not quite sure what
>> I did.  Using insert + keyboard 2 through 8, I saw that some of these
>> items were turned off.  I turned the ones that were off back on and
>> now I get the proper feedback from NVDA.  I tried turning them off
>> one by one to see which of the settings was key and I couldn't
>> determine which ones; maybe all of them?
>>
>> Now when I press insert + numpad 1 and 7, when in an edit field, I
>> hear the third choice I spoke of--namely document review. This mode
>> allows me to see the words and characters with normal numpad key
>> functions.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/1/2020 5:52 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
>>> Hi Ron
>>>
>>>
>>> Try the following.
>>>
>>>
>>> On the numeric key pad press the nvda key +num pad 1 so you go to
>>> object navigation.
>>>
>>>
>>> Then go back to the subject line then use the review cursor now it
>>> reads. If left in the other mode nvda key + 7 it will not read the
>>> subject in the header etc if you get what I mean.
>>>
>>>
>>> If you also say locate a word with the review cursor in your email
>>> then press the num pad 5 key 2 times it will spell it letter by letter.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am guessing this is what has happened.
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene nz
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/03/2020 10:51 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:
>>>> Hi Group,
>>>>
>>>> I am not quite sure when this started--probably with the 2019.3
>>>> update, but now when I am in a Thunderbird message and I want to
>>>> try to highlight a word in an open message and check the spelling,
>>>> when I press insert + numpad 5, NVDA says: 'blank.' This also
>>>> occurs in the subject field and the other header fields.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone else noticed this and is there a work around?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Transfering configuration profile settings from a portable copy to an installed copy?

Tyler Spivey
 

There's an install NVDA option in the tools menu. You can use that, or if you already have it installed, just copy the contents of portable directory\userconfig to %appdata%\nvda.


On 3/1/2020 8:58 PM, Akshaya Choudhary wrote:
 Helllo guys,
I have a portable copy of NVDA on my pen drive with all my desired settings and add-ons. Now, I wish to instal NVDA on my PC. Is there a way I can transfer all my desired settings and add-ons from the portable copy to this installed version?
I think that may include transfering configuration profile somehow.
All suggestions are welcome.

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Transfering configuration profile settings from a portable copy to an installed copy?

Akshaya Choudhary
 

 Helllo guys,
I have a portable copy of NVDA on my pen drive with all my desired settings and add-ons. Now, I wish to instal NVDA on my PC. Is there a way I can transfer all my desired settings and add-ons from the portable copy to this installed version?
I think that may include transfering configuration profile somehow.
All suggestions are welcome.

--
Regards,
Sociohack

Re: Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Gene,

In one of the previous messages I sent, I postulated that I might have changed some settings that caused the issue in the first place. You can make quick changes to Let's see, I'll press each one of these as I write this:

insert + 2 speak typed characters toggle on/off
insert + keyboard 3 speak typed words toggle on/off
insert+ keyboard 4 toggle command keys on/off
insert + keyboard 5 report dynamic changes toggle on/off
insert +keyboard 6 carrot moves review cursor toggle on/off
insert + keyboard 7focus moves navigator object toggle on/off
insert + keyboard 8 automatically set system focus to focus able elements on/off

Three of these settings had been turned off.  I turned two of them back on and the problem went away.  The only one I don't have on is the speak command keys item.  That's a pain if it's on.



On 3/1/2020 8:19 PM, Gene wrote:
I can't tell what you are describing.  You can use either insert, the numpad insert or the other insert but you must use the keys on the numpad for hearing what we are discussing.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2020 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Hi Gene,

I am using a desktop PC.  I pressed the insert key and then keyboard
(not numpad) numbers on the top line of the keyboard numbers 2 through 8.


On 3/1/2020 7:49 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
> Hi
>
>
> Where abouts were those settings were they in a add on? or did you do
> it some where else?
>
>
> Gene nz
>
>
> On 2/03/2020 1:30 pm, Ron Canazzi wrote:
>> Hi Gene,
>>
>> I played around with some of the settings.  I am not quite sure what
>> I did.  Using insert + keyboard 2 through 8, I saw that some of these
>> items were turned off.  I turned the ones that were off back on and
>> now I get the proper feedback from NVDA.  I tried turning them off
>> one by one to see which of the settings was key and I couldn't
>> determine which ones; maybe all of them?
>>
>> Now when I press insert + numpad 1 and 7, when in an edit field, I
>> hear the third choice I spoke of--namely document review. This mode
>> allows me to see the words and characters with normal numpad key
>> functions.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/1/2020 5:52 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
>>> Hi Ron
>>>
>>>
>>> Try the following.
>>>
>>>
>>> On the numeric key pad press the nvda key +num pad 1 so you go to
>>> object navigation.
>>>
>>>
>>> Then go back to the subject line then use the review cursor now it
>>> reads. If left in the other mode nvda key + 7 it will not read the
>>> subject in the header etc if you get what I mean.
>>>
>>>
>>> If you also say locate a word with the review cursor in your email
>>> then press the num pad 5 key 2 times it will spell it letter by letter.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am guessing this is what has happened.
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene nz
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/03/2020 10:51 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:
>>>> Hi Group,
>>>>
>>>> I am not quite sure when this started--probably with the 2019.3
>>>> update, but now when I am in a Thunderbird message and I want to
>>>> try to highlight a word in an open message and check the spelling,
>>>> when I press insert + numpad 5, NVDA says: 'blank.' This also
>>>> occurs in the subject field and the other header fields.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone else noticed this and is there a work around?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Changing speech rate not working

Tyler Spivey
 

No problem.

Assuming you're using OneCore or eSpeak, You need to turn on rate boost. Use ctrl+nvda+shift+left and right arrows until you find it, then use CTRL+nvda+shift+up and down to toggle it between on and off.

On 3/1/2020 8:12 PM, Anna Givens wrote:
That worked! Thank you.
I just started using NVDA, used to use JAWS. It doesn’t sound like NVDA speaks as fast as JAWS even at 100 percent. Or is that just my imagination?

Anna

On Mar 1, 2020, at 10:42 PM, Tyler Spivey <tspivey@...> wrote:

If you're using the laptop layout, try ctrl+insert+shift+up.


On 3/1/2020 6:21 PM, Anna Givens wrote:
I am doing Control + insert + up arrow to increase speech but it is not changing the speech rate.


Anna

Re: Changing speech rate not working

Anna Givens
 

That worked! Thank you.
I just started using NVDA, used to use JAWS. It doesn’t sound like NVDA speaks as fast as JAWS even at 100 percent. Or is that just my imagination?

Anna

On Mar 1, 2020, at 10:42 PM, Tyler Spivey <tspivey@...> wrote:

If you're using the laptop layout, try ctrl+insert+shift+up.


On 3/1/2020 6:21 PM, Anna Givens wrote:
I am doing Control + insert + up arrow to increase speech but it is not changing the speech rate.


Anna

conversation list on facebook messenger

Richard Kuzma
 

Good evening,

Just starting to play with facebook messenger.

Looks pretty accessible but when I get to the conversation list all it read is link and not who it is with.

Tried with nvda and jaws,

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

 

Re: Changing speech rate not working

Tyler Spivey
 

If you're using the laptop layout, try ctrl+insert+shift+up.

On 3/1/2020 6:21 PM, Anna Givens wrote:
I am doing Control + insert + up arrow to increase speech but it is not changing the speech rate.


Anna

Changing speech rate not working

Anna Givens
 

I am doing Control + insert + up arrow to increase speech but it is not changing the speech rate.


Anna

Re: NVEA settings not opening

Anna Givens
 

I did NVDA key + N and it opened the menu.

On Mar 1, 2020, at 9:26 AM, brice Mijares <bmijares33@...> wrote:

I too have been havingthis problem. yes, I'tried uninstalling NVDA and reinstalling. I've turned off one ad on at a time and nothinng helps.

On 2/29/2020 1:38 PM, Janet Brandly wrote:

Hello all,

I hd this problem just now. I had to shut down NVDA from the task bar and restart it using control+alt+N. Hope that helps.

Janet

Re: Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Gene
 

I can't tell what you are describing.  You can use either insert, the numpad insert or the other insert but you must use the keys on the numpad for hearing what we are discussing.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2020 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Hi Gene,

I am using a desktop PC.  I pressed the insert key and then keyboard
(not numpad) numbers on the top line of the keyboard numbers 2 through 8.


On 3/1/2020 7:49 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
> Hi
>
>
> Where abouts were those settings were they in a add on? or did you do
> it some where else?
>
>
> Gene nz
>
>
> On 2/03/2020 1:30 pm, Ron Canazzi wrote:
>> Hi Gene,
>>
>> I played around with some of the settings.  I am not quite sure what
>> I did.  Using insert + keyboard 2 through 8, I saw that some of these
>> items were turned off.  I turned the ones that were off back on and
>> now I get the proper feedback from NVDA.  I tried turning them off
>> one by one to see which of the settings was key and I couldn't
>> determine which ones; maybe all of them?
>>
>> Now when I press insert + numpad 1 and 7, when in an edit field, I
>> hear the third choice I spoke of--namely document review. This mode
>> allows me to see the words and characters with normal numpad key
>> functions.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/1/2020 5:52 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
>>> Hi Ron
>>>
>>>
>>> Try the following.
>>>
>>>
>>> On the numeric key pad press the nvda key +num pad 1 so you go to
>>> object navigation.
>>>
>>>
>>> Then go back to the subject line then use the review cursor now it
>>> reads. If left in the other mode nvda key + 7 it will not read the
>>> subject in the header etc if you get what I mean.
>>>
>>>
>>> If you also say locate a word with the review cursor in your email
>>> then press the num pad 5 key 2 times it will spell it letter by letter.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am guessing this is what has happened.
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene nz
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/03/2020 10:51 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:
>>>> Hi Group,
>>>>
>>>> I am not quite sure when this started--probably with the 2019.3
>>>> update, but now when I am in a Thunderbird message and I want to
>>>> try to highlight a word in an open message and check the spelling,
>>>> when I press insert + numpad 5, NVDA says: 'blank.' This also
>>>> occurs in the subject field and the other header fields.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone else noticed this and is there a work around?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Gene
 

If you don't get the correct text read in object review and you did in earlier versions of NVDA with Thunderbird, then there is a problem with how NVDA is working with the program.  I should say that there is a problem if Thunderbird hasn't been upgraded so you are working with a version you know worked properly.  Have you tried a portable NVDA of the previous stable version with whatever version of Thunderbirde you are currently using to make sure the problem is only an NVDA problem? 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2020 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Hi Gene,

I used to be in object review and I could read the word and spell the
word with a press and two presses of the numpad 5 key.  Now all I get is
blank.  I also tried with screen review.  I routed the mouse to the word
with numpad slash and then pressed the 5 while in screen review and
still got the rendering of blank when pressing the numpad 5 key.

As I recall, when in an edit field when I press insert + numpad 1 or 7,
a third option was document review.  Now in Thunderbird, I don't get
this third choice.

On 3/1/2020 5:45 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
> Hi
>
>
> In which mode are you in?
>
>
> Pressing the insert key + 5 on the numeric key pad does nothing.
>
>
> But if you use the number 5 on the numeric keypad by its self on a
> word it if pressed 2 times will spell out that word.
>
>
> If you use the insert key + 5 on the main key board it will turn on
> and off report dynamic changes on and off.
>
>
> Are you editing a document or reading it with the review cursor?
>
>
> Gene nz
>
>
> On 2/03/2020 10:51 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:
>> Hi Group,
>>
>> I am not quite sure when this started--probably with the 2019.3
>> update, but now when I am in a Thunderbird message and I want to try
>> to highlight a word in an open message and check the spelling, when I
>> press insert + numpad 5, NVDA says: 'blank.' This also occurs in the
>> subject field and the other header fields.
>>
>> Has anyone else noticed this and is there a work around?
>>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Gene,

I am using a desktop PC.  I pressed the insert key and then keyboard (not numpad) numbers on the top line of the keyboard numbers 2 through 8.

On 3/1/2020 7:49 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi


Where abouts were those settings were they in a add on? or did you do it some where else?


Gene nz


On 2/03/2020 1:30 pm, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Gene,

I played around with some of the settings.  I am not quite sure what I did.  Using insert + keyboard 2 through 8, I saw that some of these items were turned off.  I turned the ones that were off back on and now I get the proper feedback from NVDA.  I tried turning them off one by one to see which of the settings was key and I couldn't determine which ones; maybe all of them?

Now when I press insert + numpad 1 and 7, when in an edit field, I hear the third choice I spoke of--namely document review. This mode allows me to see the words and characters with normal numpad key functions.



On 3/1/2020 5:52 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi Ron


Try the following.


On the numeric key pad press the nvda key +num pad 1 so you go to object navigation.


Then go back to the subject line then use the review cursor now it reads. If left in the other mode nvda key + 7 it will not read the subject in the header etc if you get what I mean.


If you also say locate a word with the review cursor in your email then press the num pad 5 key 2 times it will spell it letter by letter.


I am guessing this is what has happened.


Gene nz


On 2/03/2020 10:51 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I am not quite sure when this started--probably with the 2019.3 update, but now when I am in a Thunderbird message and I want to try to highlight a word in an open message and check the spelling, when I press insert + numpad 5, NVDA says: 'blank.' This also occurs in the subject field and the other header fields.

Has anyone else noticed this and is there a work around?



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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"