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Re: New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

Richard Kuzma
 

Yes, jaws says that too sometimes when it is not true.

Go figure

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet Brandly
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 11:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] New to NVDA

 

Hello Jane and all,

 

I was also very happy with Window-Eyes. Fortunately, I skipped JAWS completely and came directly to NVDA. I have been happy with it so far. The email support is outstanding.

 

Regarding attachments in Outlook, recently I was having an issue where NVDA would announce that a message had an attachment but, when shift-tabbing from the message body, no attachment would appear. Apparently these messages did not in fact have attachments but the reason NVDA saying they did had something to do with how the message was written. When messages do have actual attachments, they will appear when you shift-tab from within the body of the message. You will hear the list of attachments and told to use alt plus down arrow to hear the list of options.

 

I have no meaningful experience with Excel so cannot help you there.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Janet


New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

Janet Brandly
 

Hello Jane and all,

 

I was also very happy with Window-Eyes. Fortunately, I skipped JAWS completely and came directly to NVDA. I have been happy with it so far. The email support is outstanding.

 

Regarding attachments in Outlook, recently I was having an issue where NVDA would announce that a message had an attachment but, when shift-tabbing from the message body, no attachment would appear. Apparently these messages did not in fact have attachments but the reason NVDA saying they did had something to do with how the message was written. When messages do have actual attachments, they will appear when you shift-tab from within the body of the message. You will hear the list of attachments and told to use alt plus down arrow to hear the list of options.

 

I have no meaningful experience with Excel so cannot help you there.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Janet


Re: New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

Sky Mundell
 

Hello Jane. Welcome to this list. Like you, I was a loyal Window-Eyes user myself and I am using NVDA and it is a fantastic product for sure. Anyways, to answer your question about Outlook, if you shift tab to the attachments list, use your right arrow to select the attachments. I don’t have any experience with Excel with NVDA but NVDA has basic training modules you can purchase and I believe there is a training module in it for Excel.

On Jun 5, 2020, at 3:21 AM, Jane Carona <jane.e.carona@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,
I’m new to this list, and so grateful to have found it!  I was a very happy WindowEyes user and came to Jaws very unwillingly, and have never liked it.  Just started using NVDA today, and it seems a lot like WindowEyes, so I think I’ll be very happy!
 
But I have two questions:  How do I access attachments in Outlook.  Typically, when on a message with an attachment, I’d shift tab to the attachment and hit enter on it, but that doesn’t seem to work with NVDA.
 
My other pressing issue is reading titles with Excel.  I live in Excel, so this could be a deal-breaker.  With smaller spreadsheets, I’ve gotten the titles to read pretty well, but I have some spreadsheets that have 17,000 or more rows, and NVDA reads the first row of data sometimes as column titles.  Is there a limit on the size spreadsheet NVDA can comfortably handle?
 
Any help will be greatly appreciated.  
 
Jane Carona
 


Re: New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Jane,


I haven't worked with exel using NVDA but asfar as opening attachments in outlook, you shift tab to the attachment and hit control right arrow. You'll hear the word "message". Hit the context key and arrow down to penattachment. Hit enter to open it.


Hope this helps.


Rosemarie



On 6/5/2020 3:21 AM, Jane Carona wrote:

Hi everyone,

I’m new to this list, and so grateful to have found it!  I was a very happy WindowEyes user and came to Jaws very unwillingly, and have never liked it.  Just started using NVDA today, and it seems a lot like WindowEyes, so I think I’ll be very happy!

 

But I have two questions:  How do I access attachments in Outlook.  Typically, when on a message with an attachment, I’d shift tab to the attachment and hit enter on it, but that doesn’t seem to work with NVDA.

 

My other pressing issue is reading titles with Excel.  I live in Excel, so this could be a deal-breaker.  With smaller spreadsheets, I’ve gotten the titles to read pretty well, but I have some spreadsheets that have 17,000 or more rows, and NVDA reads the first row of data sometimes as column titles.  Is there a limit on the size spreadsheet NVDA can comfortably handle?

 

Any help will be greatly appreciated. 

 

Jane Carona

Jane.e.carona@...

 


New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

Jane Carona <jane.e.carona@...>
 

Hi everyone,

I’m new to this list, and so grateful to have found it!  I was a very happy WindowEyes user and came to Jaws very unwillingly, and have never liked it.  Just started using NVDA today, and it seems a lot like WindowEyes, so I think I’ll be very happy!

 

But I have two questions:  How do I access attachments in Outlook.  Typically, when on a message with an attachment, I’d shift tab to the attachment and hit enter on it, but that doesn’t seem to work with NVDA.

 

My other pressing issue is reading titles with Excel.  I live in Excel, so this could be a deal-breaker.  With smaller spreadsheets, I’ve gotten the titles to read pretty well, but I have some spreadsheets that have 17,000 or more rows, and NVDA reads the first row of data sometimes as column titles.  Is there a limit on the size spreadsheet NVDA can comfortably handle?

 

Any help will be greatly appreciated. 

 

Jane Carona

Jane.e.carona@...

 


Re: NVDA and Audacity recordings

Hettie
 

Good afternoon

Wow! Thanks for all the welcomes and Audacity information. I'm sure I'll soon be able to record all my cassette "photos" onto my computer.

Have a great weekend.


Hettie

On 2020/06/04 6:01 pm, Tony Ballou wrote:
Hi Hettie,


Welcome aboard! The only wrong question about NVDA is the one that you fail to ask here.  You're in the right place and all's gravy!


To get additional help with audacity, Here are a few links that should get you on the right track.


Audacity for blinds users Wikipedia page


https://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Audacity_for_blind_users?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=d75ef7fea65080556f1f73e702b75228037ee9e2-1591285732-0-AbShQjxdc_Nok3gx3B7NYCmKKpjocm8gNtBKWDfKyQ_Bw8X0R7CFRYM6qJxR51wQGrVzemfWDr0AVf3t2K3FiLX6GLyXY-aXQVqCO35DvxMD0EL5dFAwze2SbIWvu9mV7EmdqBTtucOnnZ3KA0fkQV6HsrwX_KlGrjsHmL7WmsHSyjZisF8JCeMSFNwZBqMvqR8yUWsESW1fNrjnVkASnFeENyo414uVx1vpIqaPkvjhn7PkkMAbW0wX8UKQu2RGH6-kU6B-RK_NkhdVGMHwIEG05T1PBIsJ_tUmW4sGsAcLm_JLJ60ZjzYjQNO2yy1Tz9va0nKnR-0-pAPkajglv7OmURXBo-gGGiNAQotXniKp7oBHMhAO7TnIw8YIzCz4fA


the link for the audacity for blind users Email list is

https://www.freelists.org/list/audacity4blind


Here's how to get subscribed.


1. Go to https://www.freelists.org/list/audacity4blind.
2. Enter your email address into the "your email address" edit box.
3. Tab to and check the check box to indicate that you aren't a robot.
4. Tab to the Next button and press it. You will receive an email to confirm the subscription.
5. In that email, open the link to confirm your email address. A web page opens in which you have to agree to various terms.
6. There are three check boxes which have to be checked, and finally a Next button to press.
• The list archive is at http://www.freelists.org/archive/audacity4blind/
• A Guide to using Audacity 2.4.1 for users of Jaws, NVDA, and Narrator, by David Bailes. It includes tips for navigating Audacity without the mouse which should be helpful to users on all operating systems.


Hope this helps.


Tony

On 6/4/2020 6:32 AM, Hettie wrote:
Hi Listers

I am new to this List and not sure yet what may be discussed and what not.

Nvda is my only screen reader and I work with Windows 10.

I need assistance with Audacity recording stuff from an old tape recorder.

Current questions include which version of Audacity to use; how to determine the volume at which I am recording.

Do you know a blind group specifically for new Audacity users?

Thanks


Hettie


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Re: NVDA and Audacity recordings

Hettie
 

Thanks for the information. I visited the site you recommended and will spend more time exploring there.


Hettie


On 2020/06/04 4:41 pm, Gene wrote:
There is a list for blind and visually impaired Audacity users.  I don't recall the details of how you join, but you can read about it and perhaps other information of interest here
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Hettie
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 5:32 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Audacity recordings

Hi Listers

I am new to this List and not sure yet what may be discussed and what not.

Nvda is my only screen reader and I work with Windows 10.

I need assistance with Audacity recording stuff from an old tape recorder.

Current questions include which version of Audacity to use; how to
determine the volume at which I am recording.

Do you know a blind group specifically for new Audacity users?

Thanks


Hettie



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Re: NVDA and Audacity recordings

Hettie
 

Thank you for the prompt reply. I am a new member of this list since a day or two.

Thanks for the information, will have a look at the link you provided.


Hettie


On 2020/06/04 4:37 pm, Brian Vogel wrote:
Hettie,

            Hello and welcome to the NVDA Group.   Specific questions on how to use Audacity itself are not on-topic for the main NVDA Group.  I will give the e-mail addresses for our Chat Subgroup, where they are appropriate, in a few moments.  I wanted to make sure you had membership established in the NVDA Group since you must have that before you can join the Chat Subgroup.

             I know we have (or have had, the group always has some flux) members who are active Audacity users.  There also appears to be an unofficial NVDA add-on for Audacity (https://github.com/paulber007/AudacityNVDAAddon)  but it does not appear to be under active support and would not be compatible with the current version of NVDA.

             I thought there was a group on Groups.io for blind users of Audacity, but I can't find it.  I'm almost certain one exists, so I'll allow someone else to point you in its direction.

             Should you wish to ask specific questions about using Audacity itself.  That should be done on our Chat Subgroup.  Here is the vital information for that:

 
 
To receive a message containing the group description, and a list of these commands:  chat+help@nvda.groups.io
 
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Re: Tony's addons - updates

Bruno Aníbal Prieto González
 

Hello Tony!
Very good your add-ons, it's a great job.
I have a couple of suggestions and some issues.
The first thing is if you could move the settings of your add-ons to
NVDA's built-in preferences, this would allow you to configure
profiles. It happened to me that the enhanced word navigation feature
doesn't work well in UIA controls, for example in the Address Bar of
Microsoft Edge, in Onenote, Quick Notes, etc. What happens is that
when you press ctrl and arrows, select that text and NVDA says
selected. However, I like the way it works with VS Code, so I have to
be activating and deactivating that function. With indent nav in apps
like the ones I mentioned, quick notes or onenote, so does the same,
NVDA says selected. Both add-ons work, but it's tedious that NVDA
verbalize that in these cases.

Thank you very much!

Best regards

2020-05-30 21:29 GMT-04:00, Larry Wang <larry.wang.801@...>:

pycld2 is better it has built in function to split string into
languages, but you have to  pip install from github not pypi. The
version on pypi has issues on install.

在 2020/5/30 22:16, Tony Malykh 写道:
That's what I thought too.

On a separate note, I was thinking that we can use langdetect library
to detect the language of every paragraph on the fly and switch to
that language. This would allow to automatically switch between two
Latin-based languages, or between Chinese and Japanese. Maybe some day
if I have enough time I'll work on that...

On 5/29/2020 11:38 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
They have different characters, but both group of characters are in
the same UNICODE group...


So, like among the latin languages, it is not possible, without lots
of processement, to switch from chinese to japanese and vice-versa...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 02:43 de 28/05/2020, William Wong escreveu:
No, they have different character. As far as I know.


Tony Malykh 於 27/5/2020 22:32 寫道:
Language map can be edited in preferences. Do Chinese and Japanese
use the same Unicode character set or different ones? If they use
the same set, autmatic switching won't be possible.

On 5/27/2020 3:21 AM, William Wong wrote:
Hi,

Thanks for the list of addons.

Regarding "tonysEnhancements"

how to edit Edit language map

for instance, If I want to configure Traditional Chinese and
Japanese, how should I correct the map?

Thanks.












Turbotax

Luke Davis
 

Hello

Has anyone tried to use Turbotax with NVDA? If so: what was your experience?

There seems to be nothing in the archives about this.

Luke


Re: speechhub add-on installation error

Isaac Porat
 

Hi Sorry for the late reply.


The list of SpeechHub synthesizers that are supported by default and why you might like to use them is here:

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeechHub/public/docs/NVDAClient/NVDAWhyUse.html


With the SpeechHub NVDA add-on they appear in the list of synthesizers in the usual way.


Regards

Isaac

On 03/06/2020 23:03, David Griffith via groups.io wrote:
I don’t know if you had any other answers but as I understand Speech Hub basically operates to improve the performance of some legacy older voices like the older Microsoft voices and some others.

It also occasionally helps out in some other non NVDA situations, I don’t know why, but for example on one  machine I could not get the Speak On app to recognise standard purchased Sapi 5 voices but they worked fine when ported through SpeechHub for some reason so was very useful there.

David Griffith

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Sent from Mail ( https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 ) for Windows 10

*From:* Robert Mendoza ( lowvisiontek@... )
*Sent:* 01 June 2020 04:16
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] speechhub add-on installation error

Sorry if interrupted this thread but, just curious.

What exactly does with SpeechHub differs from eSpeak?

Do they have other voices as well?



locked The NVDA Chat Subgroup - Please Consider Joining (Announcement Only)

 

Hello All,

           The NVDA Group itself has over 1300 members, and over my years here I have seen how often many of you want to reach out and assist others with non-NVDA related questions.  This morning's Audacity topic is an example of that, and of people doing the right thing on it..  But I know a lot of you would like to actually answer those questions rather than just refer someone out elsewhere.

           The NVDA Chat Subgroup is a venue for doing just that sort of thing.  We have a brand new member, both here and there, who has just posted a laundry list of questions regarding multiple other pieces of software that I am sure others could answer, and that some of you might like to answer.   If you fit into that latter category, please consider joining the NVDA Chat Subgroup.  At the moment, traffic is not high in general, and most topics, though not all, are focused on technical questions regarding other programs or services.

           If you want to minimize your traffic from the Chat Subgroup, then consider subscribing then sending a follow-on message to get the group digest or summary, or follow the instructions here, Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io, regarding setting up topic preview for yourself on the Chat Subgroup.

           Thanks for your time and consideration.  The Chat Subgroup addresses follow.
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To receive a message containing the group description, and a list of these commands:  chat+help@nvda.groups.io 
 
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This can also be used to put a vacation stop on group messages, then use one of the addresses below to resume delivery in the format of your choice.
 
To receive each group messages individually:  chat+single@nvda.groups.io 
This is the default delivery unless you send a message to one of the addresses that follows.
 
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Re: NVDA and Audacity recordings

 

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 01:28 PM, Tony Ballou wrote:
Apologies for violating any protocols.
I want to make clear that you did not, in any way, violate any rules.  But this particular post, from you, presented a teachable moment for the group as a whole.

I will add, that even though it's not in the group rules, and if one wanted to be a really nasty stickler, referring people out to other resources could be classed as "off-topic" for the group, I will never, ever consider it to be so.

No matter what, we are here to help one another, and if a question is off-topic, referring the questioner to lists, forums, or other reference material that addresses their needs is always something that should be done.  Not only is it kind, it places "crumbs" for any future archive searcher to find, and it helps to keep the group as a whole much more on-topic than it would be if attempts are made to address off-topic questions in detail.

Also, questions about how to use Groups.io itself may arise occasionally.  I may direct those to the Chat Subgroup if they can't be answered in a "one and done" response, but if they can it's perfectly appropriate to assist anyone in using the actual mechanism of communication for this group.
 
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Re: Require help with Google Hangouts with NVDA

ss sarfudeen
 

Hi Brian and Sarah,

I would like to be able to make/answer a Hangouts video call and and
also reply to conversations in my contacts. Currently, I am attempting
to do this only with a single participant. When I open the Hangouts
app using Chrome, I am able to see that I am logged in to my Google
account but unable to click the Allow Camera button and answer a video
call. In the same way, I am not able to reply or send a message to a
particular contact. I tried the above using the Firefox browser as
well but with no success. By the way, I have not received a direct
link to join a meeting or a video call.

Another issue I am facing with Google Chrome is that when I open a
page or switch pages, I am unable to go back to the previous page
using the Alt and the left arrow keys.
I hope I have provided some clarity about the issues I am encountering
to seek more guidance.

With thanks and regards,

Sultana

On 6/4/20, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:00 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:


For me all I did was click the link I was given, clicked join, allowed my
camera, and that's about it.
I have seen this for Google Meet, as it's a competitor to Zoom and others
like it, but not for Hangouts, which is a separate thing. I do know that
links are used when establishing video calls, though, as I do that on
occasion, but have only ever done so with myself and a single additional
participant.

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) , September 23, 2019




Re: NVDA and Audacity recordings

Tony Ballou
 

Hey Brian,


Apologies for violating any protocols.  Thanks for the heads up, and I'm glad I was able to help. I was looking at it from an NVDA user helping a fellow NVDA user's point of view. Since the message stated that she was using NVDA as her primary screen reader I thought that I could answer the question without violating any list protocols. Overall, I'll chalk it up as a win. 


Tony


On 6/4/2020 12:15 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 12:03 PM, Tony Ballou wrote:
The only wrong question about NVDA is the one that you fail to ask here.
Tony, you are absolutely correct, but Hettie very wisely recognized that the question she is asking is not really about NVDA at all, but about Audacity.  I truly appreciate that she's leading by example with regard to this.

As the group description states:
NonVisual Desktop Access (NVDA) is screen reader software.  The central purpose of this group is discussing how to use NVDA, either configuring NVDA's settings or familiarizing oneself with its modes and commands.  Discussions about which programs are accessible using NVDA, NVDA add-ons, NVDA tutorials and documentation, and configuring synthesizers or Braille displays for use with NVDA are also permitted.

If the question were about NVDA or an NVDA add-on then it's on-topic.  If it's a question about how to use Audacity, where NVDA just so happens to be the screen reader you're using, it's not.  This is a distinction that needs to be made, by each and every member.

Again, I commend Hettie for being sensitive to this, and I commend you and others who've already done so for directing her to resources where those sorts of detailed questions can be asked and answered by those who've, "been there, done that, got the T-shirt."
 
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Re: NVDA and Audacity recordings

 

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 12:03 PM, Tony Ballou wrote:
The only wrong question about NVDA is the one that you fail to ask here.
Tony, you are absolutely correct, but Hettie very wisely recognized that the question she is asking is not really about NVDA at all, but about Audacity.  I truly appreciate that she's leading by example with regard to this.

As the group description states:
NonVisual Desktop Access (NVDA) is screen reader software.  The central purpose of this group is discussing how to use NVDA, either configuring NVDA's settings or familiarizing oneself with its modes and commands.  Discussions about which programs are accessible using NVDA, NVDA add-ons, NVDA tutorials and documentation, and configuring synthesizers or Braille displays for use with NVDA are also permitted.

If the question were about NVDA or an NVDA add-on then it's on-topic.  If it's a question about how to use Audacity, where NVDA just so happens to be the screen reader you're using, it's not.  This is a distinction that needs to be made, by each and every member.

Again, I commend Hettie for being sensitive to this, and I commend you and others who've already done so for directing her to resources where those sorts of detailed questions can be asked and answered by those who've, "been there, done that, got the T-shirt."
 
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

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Re: NVDA and Audacity recordings

Tony Ballou
 

Hi Hettie,


Welcome aboard! The only wrong question about NVDA is the one that you fail to ask here.  You're in the right place and all's gravy!


To get additional help with audacity, Here are a few links that should get you on the right track.


Audacity for blinds users Wikipedia page


https://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Audacity_for_blind_users?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=d75ef7fea65080556f1f73e702b75228037ee9e2-1591285732-0-AbShQjxdc_Nok3gx3B7NYCmKKpjocm8gNtBKWDfKyQ_Bw8X0R7CFRYM6qJxR51wQGrVzemfWDr0AVf3t2K3FiLX6GLyXY-aXQVqCO35DvxMD0EL5dFAwze2SbIWvu9mV7EmdqBTtucOnnZ3KA0fkQV6HsrwX_KlGrjsHmL7WmsHSyjZisF8JCeMSFNwZBqMvqR8yUWsESW1fNrjnVkASnFeENyo414uVx1vpIqaPkvjhn7PkkMAbW0wX8UKQu2RGH6-kU6B-RK_NkhdVGMHwIEG05T1PBIsJ_tUmW4sGsAcLm_JLJ60ZjzYjQNO2yy1Tz9va0nKnR-0-pAPkajglv7OmURXBo-gGGiNAQotXniKp7oBHMhAO7TnIw8YIzCz4fA



the link for the audacity for blind users Email list is

https://www.freelists.org/list/audacity4blind


Here's how to get subscribed.


1. Go to https://www.freelists.org/list/audacity4blind.
2. Enter your email address into the "your email address" edit box.
3. Tab to and check the check box to indicate that you aren't a robot.
4. Tab to the Next button and press it. You will receive an email to confirm the subscription.
5. In that email, open the link to confirm your email address. A web page opens in which you have to agree to various terms.
6. There are three check boxes which have to be checked, and finally a Next button to press.
• The list archive is at http://www.freelists.org/archive/audacity4blind/
• A Guide to using Audacity 2.4.1 for users of Jaws, NVDA, and Narrator, by David Bailes. It includes tips for navigating Audacity without the mouse which should be helpful to users on all operating systems.


Hope this helps.


Tony

On 6/4/2020 6:32 AM, Hettie wrote:
Hi Listers

I am new to this List and not sure yet what may be discussed and what not.

Nvda is my only screen reader and I work with Windows 10.

I need assistance with Audacity recording stuff from an old tape recorder.

Current questions include which version of Audacity to use; how to determine the volume at which I am recording.

Do you know a blind group specifically for new Audacity users?

Thanks


Hettie



Re: Require help with Google Hangouts with NVDA

 

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:00 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
For me all I did was click the link I was given, clicked join, allowed my camera, and that's about it.
I have seen this for Google Meet, as it's a competitor to Zoom and others like it, but not for Hangouts, which is a separate thing.  I do know that links are used when establishing video calls, though, as I do that on occasion, but have only ever done so with myself and a single additional participant.
 
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

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Re: NVDA and Audacity recordings

 

Gene,

             Thanks for that.  I had forgotten that this material was in the Audacity Wiki, and there's lots of good stuff there, including the directions for joining the mailing list for blind users of Audacity on freelists.org.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Require help with Google Hangouts with NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

For me all I did was click the link I was given, clicked join, allowed my camera, and that's about it. I just arrowed around etc. Then I clicked join again, you need to do that twice. Read the dialogues carefully as it is a bit confusing.

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On 4 Jun 2020, at 5:33, ss sarfudeen wrote:

Dear all,

I am sorry to write back on the list again asking for help with the
Hangouts app. I tried with the Google Chrome web browser and am still
experiencing difficulty in signing in and joining a call. Perhaps I
may not be doing it right since this is the first time I had to use
it. Please guide me further to familiarise myself with it and use its
features effectively.
Your assistance is highly appreciated.

Regards,

Sultana



On 6/4/20, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

It is advisable to use google hang outs with chrome. I've had to do
that now for several meetings I've ben involved with, and it works quite
well.
If not chrome then maybe brave as that is chromium based.
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our
[website.](http://www.tffppodcast.com)

to subscribe to the feed click [here](http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp)
and you can also [follow us on twitter](http://twitter.com/tffppodcast)

Our [discord](http://discord.tffppodcast.com) is where you will know
when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give
the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit [my main lbry
page](http://lbry.tv/@ke7zum) and my [tffp lbry
page](http://lbry.tv/@tffppodcast) You will also be able to buy some of
my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go
[here](Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast)

On 3 Jun 2020, at 10:56, Arlene wrote:

I don’t know myself what Browser Google meets will work with. I
don’t have firefox. I do have Google Chrome Edge and IE. I think it
will work very well with Chrome. I don’t think it matters what you
use. Just as long as you have an updated browser. Like I said
earlier. I never used it.



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On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 01:03 PM, ss sarfudeen wrote:

I would like to clarify if it works only with chrome and not with
Firefox or Internet Explorer.

Provided you have a recent version of Windows and Firefox, it
definitely works in Firefox.

I cannot, and will not speak to Internet Explorer beyond what is
below:

[**Why** **You** **Should** Dump **Internet** **Explorer** |
Daniel Miessler](<https://danielmiessler.com/blog/dumpie/>)
(Dec 2019)

[**The perils of using Internet Explorer as your default browser
...**](<https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-it-pro-blog/the-perils-of-using-internet-explorer-as-your-default-browser/ba-p/331732>)

(March 2019 – straight from the proverbial horse’s
mouth)

[Microsoft cybersecurity expert: Please, stop using **Internet**
...](<https://mashable.com/article/microsoft-stop-using-internet-explorer-browser/>)

(Feb 2019)

[Microsoft security chief: IE is not a browser, so stop using
...](<https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-security-chief-ie-is-not-a-browser-so-stop-using-it-as-your-default/>)

(Feb 2019)

[Microsoft wants you to stop using **Internet**
**Explorer**](<https://www.techworm.net/2019/02/microsoft-internet-explorer.html>)

(Feb 2019)

[12 reasons not to **use** **Internet** **Explorer** , ever |
Computerworld](<https://www.computerworld.com/article/2470270/12-reasons-not-to-use-internet-explorer--ever.html>)

(June 2011 – Even more valid now)

And if you web search on “Why you should not use Internet
Explorer” the list of returned results is long, and virtually
unanimous in the expert (and non-expert) opinion that you should not
unless no other browser will work, which is almost never these days.


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_**Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.**_

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in _New York Times_ article, [_How
Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United
States_](<https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html>)

_,_ September 23, 2019