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Accessibility of PCDI Canada/Ashworth College courses

Janet Brandly
 

Hello all,

 

Has anyone had experience with the accessibility of courses from the Professional Development Institute- Canada? This is an on-line college which is affiliated with Ashworth College in the US. I took a medical transcription course a number of years ago and am considering their 4-month MT course as a refresher. I spoke with one of their advisors yesterday. The outcome was not satisfactory. She did not know whether their program is recognized here in Canada and whether I can use their receipts or income taxes. The information is on their website an they are recognized. She also claims that the medical transcription program is not accessible for screen readers. Unfortunately, she was not able to provide me with the name of the learning platform they use o I cannot try it for myself. Any help is appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Janet


Re: Remotely controlling a computer with zoom while using NVDA

Gene
 

I know there is a share video and a share audio and I believe it may allow someone to see and perhaps do things with a remote computer, I'm not sure. But my impression is that this is purely visual. Once when a sighted friend and I were expeerimenting with share audio, he told me he could see my Winamp interface. He didn't try to do anything with it and when he shared something, though I didn't specifically try, I doubt I could see his interface in a way accessible to a screen-reader.

Gene

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Subject: [nvda] Remotely controlling a computer with zoom while using NVDA


Hello all,
Hope all are doing well!

I have some question regarding zoom and NVDA: I am interested to remotely control a computer with zoom, but I have a problem doing so because to do this, I need to click with the mouse in the shared screen area of the person I want to control his / her machine. So I am wondering if there is a way to do this with NVDA accessibly? Has anyone done this successfully?

Any tip will be appreciated!
thank you!
Mohammad


Inconsistency between reading paragraph numbers and reading attributes

Marquette, Ed
 

I have found that, when enabling one of the features in document formatting (control+ NVDA + d), I lose the reading of paragraph numbers in MS Word 2016 under Windows 10 and NVDA 19.3.
To clarify, the numbers are added automatically by the selected MS Word styles. I thought it was enunciation of indentations, but the same occurred when just having attributes such as "bold" or "italics" enunciated.
If indents, attributes, and styles are turned off, NVDA reads the paragraph numbers just fine.
I have not been able to isolate the behavior for certain, but I believe each of the above-three settings will nullify number reading.
Suggestions are welcome.





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Re: SoundForge Users On This List

Fresh Start
 

Thank you very very much for that clarification. I have had mixed opinions over the last few months.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 3:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SoundForge Users On This List

sound forge is not a multi-track editor, including sf14 which I own.

Curtis Delzer
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curtis@...

On 5/6/2020 7:44 AM, Fresh Start wrote:
I am currently using version 11 and have used nine for years and
didn’t have any issues. However, I do have a few questions as well.

I had to move to a Windows ten pro. Computer. A program called Sonar
and cake walk don’t work in that environment. It it possible to do
multi-track recordings in Soundforge 11 and above? I would be very
greatful to carry on this conversation off line if allowed so as not
to clog up this list with too many questions. Thanks in advance.

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sean
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 05, 2020 3:12 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] SoundForge Users On This List

I'm using version 14 and I had no problem with this.

On 05/05/2020 10:52, Andrea Sherry wrote:

Any users of this program care to comment. When I attemp to change
some of the checkboxes in the menu NVDA does not recognise them as
checkboxes. Has anyone else had this experience? Is there a work round?
Andrea


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Re: NVDA Remote - some assistance please

Micallef Michael at FITA
 

Thank you,

I just discovered my mistake in the nvda remote. I simply forgot to peress the f11 key

 

.

 

 

 

Michael Micallef
Officer in charge of ICT Accessibility Certification
and ICT Training for Persons with a Visual Impairment

Foundation for Information Technology Accessibility (FITA)

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 3:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [nvda] NVDA Remote - some assistance please

 

A good place to start, the NVDA Remote Documentation:  https://nvdaremote.com/docs/
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Re: NVDA Remote - some assistance please

 

A good place to start, the NVDA Remote Documentation:  https://nvdaremote.com/docs/
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Re: NVDA Remote - some assistance please

Jesse Farquharson
 

Hello,

To be able to know what is on their screen, to be able to interact, you must tell the remote addon you wish to control the machine. To start and stop controlling, use the F11 key.

Hope this helps.


NVDA Remote - some assistance please

Micallef Michael at FITA
 

Dear NVDA Users,

I’m an NVDA regular user and just recently I tried to help a friend of mine through the NVDA Remote add-on. My problem is this.

 

I manage to connect with my partner pc through the NVDA Remote plugin but for some reason I could see only my desktop or my pc programs.  I also tried to look for some good audio tutorials about nvda remote on youtube, but because these youtube demonstrations  have the famous background music and I find that disturbing because I have lack of hearing, so they aren't much help for me.

.

Again I manage to successfully connect to my friend’s pc but I’m missing something because I couldn’t see his desktop

 

Can someone give me some assistance in this matter please.

 

Kind regards,

 

 

Michael Micallef
Officer in charge of ICT Accessibility Certification
and ICT Training for Persons with a Visual Impairment

Foundation for Information Technology Accessibility (FITA)

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Re: Remotely controlling a computer with zoom while using NVDA

 

Hello Mohammad.
You can use the NVDA cursor to access the share screen button.
But you need to have a fully keyboard to be able to use the NVDA cursor.
I hope that’s helpful to you.


Best.
(Hasan Tayem)
Mobile: +962788266670


Re: Switching between 6 and 8 dot UEB: is this possible?

Doug Lawlor
 

Hello all:
I finally figured this out! If you have the braille extender add-on installed you can press space bar + dots 4 + 7 + 8 to toggle dots 7 and 8 on and off. This is just what I was looking for! This was truly driving me nuts for reading literary braille. I’m using the Focus 40 fifth gen here so your mileage may very on other displays. This command can be found under the gadget commands section of Braille Extender's documentation.

Best,

Doug


Remotely controlling a computer with zoom while using NVDA

mohammad suliman
 

Hello all,
Hope all are doing well!

I have some question regarding zoom and NVDA: I am interested to remotely control a computer with zoom, but I have a problem doing so because to do this, I need to click with the mouse in the shared screen area of the person I want to control his / her machine. So I am wondering if there is a way to do this with NVDA accessibly? Has anyone done this successfully?

Any tip will be appreciated!
thank you!
Mohammad


Re: Switching between 6 and 8 dot UEB: is this possible?

Doug Lawlor
 

Well, this is interesting. Even though I have UEB enabled with both input and output tables i’m still seeing 8 dot braille. When i see something in all capitals, the letters are displayed with capital signs underneath them in the dot 7 position with a single dot 6 in front for a singgle capital letter and a double dot 6 for a word in all capitals. If UEB is only a 6 dot code, should I only see 6 dot braille? I’m really not sure what is going on here. 

Hope to get more light shed on this. 

Best, 

Doug


Re: NVDA and speaking Capital letter

 

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 12:49 AM, zahra wrote:
do you mean that all people including me, should mention our windows
and nvda version when we ask something about nvda, for example: how to
use specific feature of nvda or how to change nvda according to our
desires?
Yep.   As lovely as it would be if we could all read minds, we can't.  If you look at the signature that comes along with every message I write, immediately after my name is the Windows 10 Edition, bit-depth (which is optional, but I would want to know really if someone is still using 32-bit), Version and Build numbers.  In your case for XP that would be service pack level.  If I'm asking a question about NVDA, and I have, I always mention the NVDA version I'm running.  If I have a question in regard to MS-Office, I always mention that I'm using Office 2016 (or Word 2016, etc.).  That's essential information.

When anyone is asking technical questions, the only way that both the person asking and answering can be certain that they're talking about the same things is if those very things are explicitly laid out.

It needn't be long and flowery, just there.
 
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Re: NVDA and speaking Capital letter

 

brian, thanks so much for your supports and helps as always.
do you mean that all people including me, should mention our windows
and nvda version when we ask something about nvda, for example: how to
use specific feature of nvda or how to change nvda according to our
desires?
and many new members of this list, dont know me and dont know my history.
and other members may forget my case and i should recall everytime
that i post comment and request or ask something about nvda?

On 6/1/20, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 01:38 PM, zahra wrote:


as i always mentioned and emphasized, 2017.2 is the best version for me!
Zahra,

First, and most importantly, there are always new members reading you for
the first time that have no idea of your history. Even though I do, even I
didn't recall that it was specifically NVDA 2017.2 where you stopped
upgrading, though I know you continue to use Windows XP. That's why it's
really important for you to repeat, when asking any question, that you are
using NVDA 2017.2 and Windows XP.

There will not be many others, if any, who read here who are in your
situation, but there may be. They would really be the only ones who could
help you with "the details" because most of us long ago went off of NVDA
2017.x and Window XP. You are using an unsupported version of both the
screen reader and Windows operating system, so what you have is what you've
got, and will continue to have, unless some existing setting that you
haven't tweaked (and may not have known about) is identified by someone else
to assist you.

But when you post without any information regarding what you are actually
using, it is the typical expectation that you are using a supported version
of NVDA and Windows by those who do not know or recall otherwise. When you
ask questions omitting that information you are going to end up getting a
lot of answers that will not be applicable to you, which is why I implore
you to routinely include the opening line: Using NVDA 2017.2 on Windows
XP

And this applies generally to everyone. It's really, really important when
asking questions on software that the software version number being used,
and the operating system it's being used under, are included.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment
Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html
) , September 23, 2019



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with all they contain
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I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
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Re: SoundForge Users On This List

Angelo Sonnesso
 

You can go to a free option Audacity, or you can use Reaper, which is every bit as good as sonar.
I believe it is $60.00, but I purchased my copy a while ago.
I use both, and they work well.


73 N2DYN Angelo

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 4:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SoundForge Users On This List

sound forge is not a multi-track editor, including sf14 which I own.

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 5/6/2020 7:44 AM, Fresh Start wrote:
I am currently using version 11 and have used nine for years and didn’t
have any issues. However, I do have a few questions as well.

I had to move to a Windows ten pro. Computer. A program called Sonar
and cake walk don’t work in that environment. It it possible to do
multi-track recordings in Soundforge 11 and above? I would be very
greatful to carry on this conversation off line if allowed so as not to
clog up this list with too many questions. Thanks in advance.

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sean
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 05, 2020 3:12 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] SoundForge Users On This List

I'm using version 14 and I had no problem with this.

On 05/05/2020 10:52, Andrea Sherry wrote:

Any users of this program care to comment. When I attemp to change
some of the checkboxes in the menu NVDA does not recognise them as
checkboxes. Has anyone else had this experience? Is there a work round?
Andrea


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Re: SoundForge Users On This List

Curtis Delzer
 

sound forge is not a multi-track editor, including sf14 which I own.

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 5/6/2020 7:44 AM, Fresh Start wrote:
I am currently using version 11 and have used nine for years and didn’t have any issues.  However, I do have a few questions as well.
I had to move to a Windows ten pro. Computer.  A program called Sonar and cake walk don’t work in that environment.  It it possible to do multi-track recordings in Soundforge 11 and above?  I would be very greatful to carry on this conversation off line if allowed so as not to clog up this list with too many questions.  Thanks in advance.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sean
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 05, 2020 3:12 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] SoundForge Users On This List
I'm using version 14 and I had no problem with this.
On 05/05/2020 10:52, Andrea Sherry wrote:
Any users of this program care to comment. When I attemp to change
some of the checkboxes in the menu NVDA does not recognise them as
checkboxes. Has anyone else had this experience? Is there a work round?
Andrea
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<mailto:seantolstoyevski@...>
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I can understand Turkish and English.


Re: NVDA and speaking Capital letter

 

On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 01:38 PM, zahra wrote:
as i always mentioned and emphasized, 2017.2 is the best version for me!
Zahra,

         First, and most importantly, there are always new members reading you for the first time that have no idea of your history.  Even though I do, even I didn't recall that it was specifically NVDA 2017.2 where you stopped upgrading, though I know you continue to use Windows XP.   That's why it's really important for you to repeat, when asking any question, that you are using NVDA 2017.2 and Windows XP.

          There will not be many others, if any, who read here who are in your situation, but there may be.  They would really be the only ones who could help you with "the details" because most of us long ago went off of NVDA 2017.x and Window XP.   You are using an unsupported version of both the screen reader and Windows operating system, so what you have is what you've got, and will continue to have, unless some existing setting that you haven't tweaked (and may not have known about) is identified by someone else to assist you.

           But when you post without any information regarding what you are actually using, it is the typical expectation that you are using a supported version of NVDA and Windows by those who do not know or recall otherwise.  When you ask questions omitting that information you are going to end up getting a lot of answers that will not be applicable to you, which is why I implore you to routinely include the opening line:   Using NVDA 2017.2 on Windows XP

            And this applies generally to everyone.  It's really, really important when asking questions on software that the software version number being used, and the operating system it's being used under, are included.
 
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

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Re: NVDA and speaking Capital letter

 
Edited

On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 01:36 PM, Marquette, Ed wrote:
I didn’t mean to complain, and I wouldn’t have brought it up separately, but since another brought it up …
Ed,

             Thanks for your kind and measured response.  I want to make clear that it isn't the complaining/venting that's the issue, it's that very often it's the only thing that's happening (and this is addressed to the readership, not you specifically).

             Software development has certain conventions.  We are lucky here because there are actually a couple of members "high up" on the NVAccess team that read regularly, but that's a rare exception rather than the rule, and I'm sure that reading is constrained by more pressing commitments.  One of those conventions is the use of systems such as GitHub to track and respond to issues and suggestions.  In most cases, end users don't even have the ability to touch said systems, there's a middle-man such as the Microsoft Feedback Hub under Windows 10, where that input is then later filtered by others and entered into the actual systems used to track and prioritize issues.

              It is critically important that those reading this list realize just how lucky they are to have a method to go "straight to the source" when they encounter an issue or have a suggestion, then check if it has already been entered by someone else, in which case they should add a comment on to the end of the existing issue as appropriate, even if it's as simple as, "I'm having precisely the same problem/I would like to see this feature implemented as well," or to open a new one.  That's where the proverbial rubber meets the road.

               I have no idea what it may, or may not accomplish, but I went to that very GitHub ticket a short while ago and mentioned that traffic requesting the functionality has been very high recently here on the NVDA Group and that the issue has now been open for six years.  It has has a lot of in-depth comments regarding possible implementation options over that time, but little input from end users regarding the desire/need for said functionality.  Going on record by those who actually do need it bumps up the visibility of "old tickets," and particularly if there is a sudden increase in activity on said tickets.

                I also hadn't recalled that I already put these instructions on my Google Drive so anyone who needs them can download them, but here they are:  Creating a Github Account

 

 
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

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Re: NVDA and speaking Capital letter

 

thanks brian for your comments.
as i always mentioned and emphasized, 2017.2 is the best version for me!
but, u p e n d etc, are pronunced by espeak as single letters rather
than complete word, for me because i use SayAll for reading.
if i navigate word by word, espeak reads capitalized words like the
way which it reads them if they are in small letters!
but i am comfortable reading using SayAll, and its very enjoyable and
pleasant even if i read hundreds or at least tens of pages!

On 6/1/20, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
Zahra,

You do not mention the version of NVDA you are using, but I have to presume,
absent any updates, that it's an ancient one. It would still help to know.

NVDA does not generally appear to be case sensitive, and the word up,
rendered in full uppercase as UP, should still be pronounced just like
lowercase up is. Using your example: UP arrow, ENd, TAB

NVDA 2020.1 reads it as up arrow, E N d, tab. I can get why the mixed case
might do this, as the use of multiple capitals mixed with lower case is
difficult to interpret as to whether something's being styled to be read as
separate letters or not. If I change the capital E N followed by lowercase
d to uppercase E, lowercase n, uppercase D, then NVDA says En D, since En is
pronouncable, just like the letter N itself is pronounced, in English.

PhD is pronounced as P H D, just as I'd expect, and just as most readers who
see such after an individual's name would say it.
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*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment
Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html
) , September 23, 2019



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By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: NVDA and speaking Capital letter

Marquette, Ed
 

Thank you.

I didn’t mean to complain, and I wouldn’t have brought it up separately, but since another brought it up …

But you are right about GitHub, and I’ll try the GitHub site again.  I just have not had the time.

I did try to log into GitHub once before, but something went wrong.  It was not straightforward.  I’ll give it another try when I can focus.   

I saved Quentin’s instructions.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 11:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and speaking Capital letter

 

[ CAUTION - EXTERNAL SENDER ]

On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 09:47 AM, Marquette, Ed wrote:

The whole interpretation of a contract can turn on the presence of a capital letter, but now one has to stop reading by sentence and manually check the potentially suspect word to see if it is or is not capitalized. This is not just a good thing, it is a crucial thing.

Ed,

          Not that I'm disagreeing with your point, because I'm not, but I will say this again:  Complaining on a user group is not the way to register the need for these changes such that they will be made.

          This very issue was just discussed within the last couple of weeks.  Someone else gave the direct link to the NVDA issue on GitHub regarding same.  Those of you who want this, and I know why you want it, would be spending your time far more effectively by adding a comment to that very issue rather than complaining here.  The number of comments on a given issue in an issue tracking system is one of the primary metrics used to determine how important something is to the user community.  And the NVDA user community has the absolute luxury, and it is one, of having direct access to the issue tracking system used by NVAccess for the product.

          I am no longer going to post links to the results of archive searches.  The membership of this group must, yes, must, learn how to do effective archive searches themselves.  Searching the NVDA Group Archive. A search on the phrase "Capital Letter Recognition" gets you straight to Quentin Christensen's post giving the link to the NVDA issue.  If this is important enough to pursue, then do that search, set up a GitHub account if you don't already have one (and I'll be happy to supply step by step instructions if you need those), and click through to that issue and add your comment.  This is how things get done, and it's up to those who want them done to undertake the steps necessary.  You, in fact, were the individual to whom Quentin was responding, so this should not be news to you.
 
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