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Re: More help: Selecting text with the caret without losing selection

Jonathan Milam
 

Thanks, Gene. Sorry if I wasn't clear. I was actually using
NVDA+Shift+UpArrow to read text that was selected at the caret.

The problem with this web application is that it has a frame that NVDA is
supposed to see to allow navigation in Focus mode. I think the company is
saying that the Caret browsing method allows this navigation, but in fact it
doesn't. It goes back to what you are saying in that Screen-readers are
completely unaware of the virtual caret. I would need to know what I am
selecting so that I can activate the annotate button. This is similar to
making comments on certain strings of text in Google Docs. This is
unfortunately a lost cause unless the vendor actually makes their document
frame a focusable environment.

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 11:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] More help: Selecting text with the caret without losing
selection

I'm not at all sure you can do what you want, at least not without a lot of
time consuming, frustrating work. First, the command you are using to
select text, NVDA shift up arrow doesn't select text. It may read the
current line but it doesn't move you through anything. Except for control
ak, which selects all text, you must always move through what you are
selecting.

As for doing what you want to do, if you turn on caret browsing while in
browse mode, you can turn it on later but its probably most convenient then,
and then move in browse mode to what you want to select, then turn browse
mode off and move with the left and right arrows, you evidently can select
what you want. If you want to start selecting at the beginning of the line,
moving with home may put you there and you can then use shift right arrow to
move and select. But you will hear nothing. Screen-readers are completely
unaware of the virtual caret the browser places on the screen. The only way
I know to determine what you have selected is to move without any feedback
to where you think you want to be from where you are on a line, then use
control c to copy what you have selected to the clipboard, then use the NVDA
read clipboard command, NVDA key c.

Aside from then finding the button, this method of selecting with no
feedback may be so difficult that you will find it not worth it. You can
change what you have selected. If, for example, you select a word too far,
you can use shift left arrow and move by letter until you have unselected
the word. The rest of what you selected will still be. So you can copy to
the clipboard, hold shift and either move farther right or farther left. If
you move in the opposite direction of what you have selected, what you move
through will be unselected and the rest will still be selected.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Milam
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 9:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] More help: Selecting text with the caret without losing
selection

Hi All,

To revisit this issue, what I am needing to do is to use the System Caret
and be able to select text using the caret itself. With this application,
whenever I select text with caret browsing on in Firefox, I am supposed to
be able to find and select a button called "annotate" that appears when text
is selected. However, when I select text, and use the caret desktop
shortcut key NVDA+Shift+UpArrow, NVDA tells me that the text is selected,
however, if I move away from the selection to search for the button that
should appear, the selection is lost in browse mode. I am not getting any
feedback when in Focus mode. How can I select text with the caret and then
search for the annotate button without losing my selection while in browse
mode? Is that possible?

Originally, I thought object navigation would work here, but Object
navigation isn't actually using the caret when selecting text.

Thanks,
Jonathan
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 10:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Selecting text

I don't know if this works in all browsers that support browse mode. it
does work in some.
I am using movement commands for the desktop keyboard layout.

Be in object review.
Use numpad 4 and 6 by themselves. 4 will move back and 6 will move forward.
You are moving by word. To move by line, use 7 and 9. To move by letter,
use 1 and 3.
When you get to the beginning of what you want to select, issue the command
NVDA f9. Move to the end of what you want to select and issue the command
NVDA f10 quickly. You should hear something indicating that text was
selected. To copy text to the clipboard, issue the command twice quickly,
not once.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Milam
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2020 8:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Selecting text



Hi All,



I am testing a web application called “Hypothesis” and need to be able to
select text while in browse mode, separate from the caret. Is there a way
of selecting text with NVDA in one of its object modes so that I can have
the main browser cursor elsewhere?



Thanks,

Jonathan


Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

benmoxey@...
 

Hi Rob

Settings cannot be accessed from within a meeting window. End the meeting
and ensure the main Zoom window has focus.

* Press Control + F to set focus to the Search edit box. This provides a
consistent starting point for navigation.
* Tab twice to Settings.

Note that you can only adjust settings when signed in to your Zoom account
when using the Windows desktop client.

Cheers

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 10:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

How do you get to the accessibility settings.
I joined a test meeting with the zoom meetings client, and I found no
setting sbutton anywhere that talked about it. I found audio settings and
such, but nothing about accessibility.

----- Original Message -----
From: "CARLOS-ESTEBAN" <carlosestebanpianista@...>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 20:22:39 -0500
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Hello.

I updated Zoom and is possible enable o disable the alerts, is an
excellent change.

Thanks to all for the answers.

Regards.


El 10/8/2020 a las 19:34, benmoxey@... escribió:
Hi Gene

You can check manually using the menu. Place focus on the main Zoom
window and hit Control + F to navigate to the find edit box. Hit tab to
navigate to the menu.

Cheers

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 9:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

I haven't been offered the update yet.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
-----Original Message-----
From: benmoxey@...
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom



Hi everyone



Coming in late on this discussion, so hope I’m on the right track!



Ensure you update to the latest build of Zoom and you will notice
that they have added the ability to turn on and off alerts for
screen readers in Settings/Accessibility. I only spotted this
yesterday when installing it for a client.



Hope this helps.



Cheers



Ben





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian
Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom





I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you
have the ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they
can tweak to make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for
the meeting Host and Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page:
https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your
-meeting-settings and search on, "Sound notification when someone
join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of
same, I'm willing to bet that it might. It's worth checking out, at the
very least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of
accessibility plus a lot of others. I doubt that they ever, in
their wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and
gaining as many users as it has in a very short period of time.
While there are limited human resources for tweaking Zoom, they
certainly can't make changes for any problems unless those problems
are reported to them and the changes that would help are spelled out.

--

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios ciegos con el uso de
lectores de pantalla y tecnología.

Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.


Musicien (pianist) and also help to the blind people in the use of
screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

Experto certificado en NVDA <https://certification.nvaccess.org>






Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Angelo Sonnesso
 

Zoom client for meetings is the Windows program you need.


73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rob
Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 11:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

There is no such client as
Windows Desktop Client
listed in the download center at:
https://zoom.us/download
Here's what I see:
Zoom Client for Meetings
Zoom Plugin for Microsoft Outlook
Zoom Plugin for IBM Notes
Zoom Extension for Browsers
Zoom Plugin for Intel Unite
Zoom Mobile Apps
Zoom Client Plugin for Sharing iPhone/iPad
Zoom Rooms for Conference Rooms and Touchscreen Displays
Controllers for Zoom Rooms
Zoom Plugin for Skype for Business
Perhaps the article should be updated to provide more relevant information.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Angelo Sonnesso" <@asonnesso>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 10:30:35 -0400
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Hot Keys and Keyboard Shortcuts for Zoom
Overview
There are keyboard shortcuts that you can use on the Zoom Desktop Client
for
Windows and Mac that allow you to navigate the Zoom settings without using
your mouse. They are listed in this article and also available in your
Zoom
desktop client settings, under Accessibility.

Prerequisites
Windows Desktop Client Version 3.5.19869.0701 or higher
Mac Desktop Client Version 3.5.19877.0701 or higher
Linux Desktop Client Version 1.1.32904.1120 or higher
iPad with iOS App Version 4.4.5 (55341.0715) or higher
Windows Icon Windows
You can view and edit keyboard shortcuts in your Accessibility settings.

Log in to your Zoom desktop client.
Click your profile picture then click Settings.
Settings Option Under Profile Picture
Click Keyboard Shortcuts.

The keyboard shortcuts will appear.
Editing Shortcuts
You can edit a shortcut by clicking on the shortcut and then pressing the
shortcut key that you would like to use.

Some of the shortcuts can be used as global shortcuts, meaning they will
work even when Zoom is not in focus. To enable a shortcut globally, check
the option next to the shortcut.

Available Keyboard Shortcuts
F6: Navigate among Zoom popup windows.
Ctrl+Alt+Shift: Move focus to Zoom's meeting controls
PageUp: View previous 25 video stream in gallery view
PageDown: View next 25 video stream in gallery view
Alt: Turn on/off the option Always show meeting control toolbar in
Accessibility Settings
Alt+F1: Switch to active speaker view in video meeting
Alt+F2: Switch to gallery video view in video meeting
Alt+F4: Close the current window
Alt+V: Start/Stop Video
Alt+A: Mute/unmute audio
Alt+M: Mute/unmute audio for everyone except host Note: For the meeting
host
only
Alt+S: Launch share screen window and stop screen share Note: Will only
work
when meeting control toolbar has focus
Alt+Shift+S: Start/stop new screen share Note: Will only work when meeting
control toolbar has focus
Alt+T: Pause or resume screen share Note: Will only work when meeting
control toolbar has focus
Alt+R: Start/stop local recording
Alt+C: Start/stop cloud recording
Alt+P: Pause or resume recording
Alt+N: Switch camera
Alt+F: Enter or exit full screen
Alt+H: Display/hide In-Meeting Chat panel
Alt+U:Display/hide Participants panel
Alt+I: Open Invite window
Alt+Y: Raise/lower hand
Alt+Shift+R: Gain Remote Control
Alt+Shift+G: Stop Remote Control
Ctrl+2: Read active speaker name
Ctrl+Alt+Shift+H: Show/Hide floating meeting controls
Alt+Shift+T: Screenshot
Switch to Portrait/Landscape View: Alt+L
Ctrl+W: Close current chat session
Ctrl+Up: Go to previous chat
Ctrl+Down: Go to next chat
Ctrl+T: Jump to chat with someone
Ctrl+F: Search
Ctrl+Tab: Move to the next tab (right)
Ctrl+Shift+Tab: Move to the previous tab (left)

Note: You can edit your keyboard shortcuts in Windows if you need or want
to. To do this, you’ll click on the shortcut and then press the shortcut
key
that you would like to use.

Log in to your Zoom desktop client.
Click your profile picture then click Settings.
Click Keyboard Shortcuts.
The keyboard shortcuts will appear.
Some of these hotkeys can be used as global shortcuts, meaning they will
work even when Zoom is not in focus. To enable a shortcut globally, check
the option next to the shortcut.


73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rob
Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 8:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

How do you get to the accessibility settings.
I joined a test meeting with the zoom meetings client, and I found no
setting sbutton anywhere that talked about it. I found audio settings and
such, but nothing about accessibility.

----- Original Message -----
From: "CARLOS-ESTEBAN" <carlosestebanpianista@...>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 20:22:39 -0500
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Hello.

I updated Zoom and is possible enable o disable the alerts, is an
excellent change.

Thanks to all for the answers.

Regards.


El 10/8/2020 a las 19:34, benmoxey@... escribió:
Hi Gene

You can check manually using the menu. Place focus on the main Zoom
window and hit Control + F to navigate to the find edit box. Hit tab to
navigate to the menu.

Cheers

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 9:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

I haven't been offered the update yet.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
-----Original Message-----
From: benmoxey@...
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom



Hi everyone



Coming in late on this discussion, so hope I’m on the right track!



Ensure you update to the latest build of Zoom and you will notice that
they
have added the ability to turn on and off alerts for screen readers in
Settings/Accessibility. I only spotted this yesterday when installing
it
for
a client.



Hope this helps.



Cheers



Ben





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian
Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom





I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you
have
the
ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they can tweak
to
make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for the meeting
Host
and
Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page:
https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your-meeting
-settings
and search on, "Sound notification when someone join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of same,
I'm
willing to bet that it might. It's worth checking out, at the very
least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of
accessibility plus a lot of others. I doubt that they ever, in their
wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and gaining as
many
users as it has in a very short period of time. While there are
limited
human resources for tweaking Zoom, they certainly can't make changes
for
any
problems unless those problems are reported to them and the changes
that
would help are spelled out.

--

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios ciegos con el uso de
lectores de pantalla y tecnología.

Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.


Musicien (pianist) and also help to the blind people in the use of
screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader
NVDA.

Experto certificado en NVDA <https://certification.nvaccess.org>












Re: More help: Selecting text with the caret without losing selection

Gene
 

I'm not at all sure you can do what you want, at least not without a lot of time consuming, frustrating work. First, the command you are using to select text, NVDA shift up arrow doesn't select text. It may read the current line but it doesn't move you through anything. Except for control ak, which selects all text, you must always move through what you are selecting.

As for doing what you want to do, if you turn on caret browsing while in browse mode, you can turn it on later but its probably most convenient then, and then move in browse mode to what you want to select, then turn browse mode off and move with the left and right arrows, you evidently can select what you want. If you want to start selecting at the beginning of the line, moving with home may put you there and you can then use shift right arrow to move and select. But you will hear nothing. Screen-readers are completely unaware of the virtual caret the browser places on the screen. The only way I know to determine what you have selected is to move without any feedback to where you think you want to be from where you are on a line, then use control c to copy what you have selected to the clipboard, then use the NVDA read clipboard command, NVDA key c.

Aside from then finding the button, this method of selecting with no feedback may be so difficult that you will find it not worth it. You can change what you have selected. If, for example, you select a word too far, you can use shift left arrow and move by letter until you have unselected the word. The rest of what you selected will still be. So you can copy to the clipboard, hold shift and either move farther right or farther left. If you move in the opposite direction of what you have selected, what you move through will be unselected and the rest will still be selected.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Milam
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 9:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] More help: Selecting text with the caret without losing selection

Hi All,

To revisit this issue, what I am needing to do is to use the System Caret
and be able to select text using the caret itself. With this application,
whenever I select text with caret browsing on in Firefox, I am supposed to
be able to find and select a button called "annotate" that appears when text
is selected. However, when I select text, and use the caret desktop
shortcut key NVDA+Shift+UpArrow, NVDA tells me that the text is selected,
however, if I move away from the selection to search for the button that
should appear, the selection is lost in browse mode. I am not getting any
feedback when in Focus mode. How can I select text with the caret and then
search for the annotate button without losing my selection while in browse
mode? Is that possible?

Originally, I thought object navigation would work here, but Object
navigation isn't actually using the caret when selecting text.

Thanks,
Jonathan
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 10:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Selecting text

I don't know if this works in all browsers that support browse mode. it
does work in some.
I am using movement commands for the desktop keyboard layout.

Be in object review.
Use numpad 4 and 6 by themselves. 4 will move back and 6 will move forward.
You are moving by word. To move by line, use 7 and 9. To move by letter,
use 1 and 3.
When you get to the beginning of what you want to select, issue the command
NVDA f9. Move to the end of what you want to select and issue the command
NVDA f10 quickly. You should hear something indicating that text was
selected. To copy text to the clipboard, issue the command twice quickly,
not once.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Milam
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2020 8:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Selecting text



Hi All,



I am testing a web application called “Hypothesis” and need to be able to
select text while in browse mode, separate from the caret. Is there a way
of selecting text with NVDA in one of its object modes so that I can have
the main browser cursor elsewhere?



Thanks,

Jonathan


Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Rob Hudson
 

There is no such client as
Windows Desktop Client
listed in the download center at:
https://zoom.us/download
Here's what I see:
Zoom Client for Meetings
Zoom Plugin for Microsoft Outlook
Zoom Plugin for IBM Notes
Zoom Extension for Browsers
Zoom Plugin for Intel Unite
Zoom Mobile Apps
Zoom Client Plugin for Sharing iPhone/iPad
Zoom Rooms for Conference Rooms and Touchscreen Displays
Controllers for Zoom Rooms
Zoom Plugin for Skype for Business
Perhaps the article should be updated to provide more relevant information.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Angelo Sonnesso" <@asonnesso>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 10:30:35 -0400
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Hot Keys and Keyboard Shortcuts for Zoom
Overview
There are keyboard shortcuts that you can use on the Zoom Desktop Client for
Windows and Mac that allow you to navigate the Zoom settings without using
your mouse. They are listed in this article and also available in your Zoom
desktop client settings, under Accessibility.

Prerequisites
Windows Desktop Client Version 3.5.19869.0701 or higher
Mac Desktop Client Version 3.5.19877.0701 or higher
Linux Desktop Client Version 1.1.32904.1120 or higher
iPad with iOS App Version 4.4.5 (55341.0715) or higher
Windows Icon Windows
You can view and edit keyboard shortcuts in your Accessibility settings.

Log in to your Zoom desktop client.
Click your profile picture then click Settings.
Settings Option Under Profile Picture
Click Keyboard Shortcuts.

The keyboard shortcuts will appear.
Editing Shortcuts
You can edit a shortcut by clicking on the shortcut and then pressing the
shortcut key that you would like to use.

Some of the shortcuts can be used as global shortcuts, meaning they will
work even when Zoom is not in focus. To enable a shortcut globally, check
the option next to the shortcut.

Available Keyboard Shortcuts
F6: Navigate among Zoom popup windows.
Ctrl+Alt+Shift: Move focus to Zoom's meeting controls
PageUp: View previous 25 video stream in gallery view
PageDown: View next 25 video stream in gallery view
Alt: Turn on/off the option Always show meeting control toolbar in
Accessibility Settings
Alt+F1: Switch to active speaker view in video meeting
Alt+F2: Switch to gallery video view in video meeting
Alt+F4: Close the current window
Alt+V: Start/Stop Video
Alt+A: Mute/unmute audio
Alt+M: Mute/unmute audio for everyone except host Note: For the meeting host
only
Alt+S: Launch share screen window and stop screen share Note: Will only work
when meeting control toolbar has focus
Alt+Shift+S: Start/stop new screen share Note: Will only work when meeting
control toolbar has focus
Alt+T: Pause or resume screen share Note: Will only work when meeting
control toolbar has focus
Alt+R: Start/stop local recording
Alt+C: Start/stop cloud recording
Alt+P: Pause or resume recording
Alt+N: Switch camera
Alt+F: Enter or exit full screen
Alt+H: Display/hide In-Meeting Chat panel
Alt+U:Display/hide Participants panel
Alt+I: Open Invite window
Alt+Y: Raise/lower hand
Alt+Shift+R: Gain Remote Control
Alt+Shift+G: Stop Remote Control
Ctrl+2: Read active speaker name
Ctrl+Alt+Shift+H: Show/Hide floating meeting controls
Alt+Shift+T: Screenshot
Switch to Portrait/Landscape View: Alt+L
Ctrl+W: Close current chat session
Ctrl+Up: Go to previous chat
Ctrl+Down: Go to next chat
Ctrl+T: Jump to chat with someone
Ctrl+F: Search
Ctrl+Tab: Move to the next tab (right)
Ctrl+Shift+Tab: Move to the previous tab (left)

Note: You can edit your keyboard shortcuts in Windows if you need or want
to. To do this, youll click on the shortcut and then press the shortcut key
that you would like to use.

Log in to your Zoom desktop client.
Click your profile picture then click Settings.
Click Keyboard Shortcuts.
The keyboard shortcuts will appear.
Some of these hotkeys can be used as global shortcuts, meaning they will
work even when Zoom is not in focus. To enable a shortcut globally, check
the option next to the shortcut.


73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rob
Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 8:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

How do you get to the accessibility settings.
I joined a test meeting with the zoom meetings client, and I found no
setting sbutton anywhere that talked about it. I found audio settings and
such, but nothing about accessibility.

----- Original Message -----
From: "CARLOS-ESTEBAN" <carlosestebanpianista@...>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 20:22:39 -0500
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Hello.

I updated Zoom and is possible enable o disable the alerts, is an
excellent change.

Thanks to all for the answers.

Regards.


El 10/8/2020 a las 19:34, benmoxey@... escribi:
Hi Gene

You can check manually using the menu. Place focus on the main Zoom
window and hit Control + F to navigate to the find edit box. Hit tab to
navigate to the menu.

Cheers

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 9:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

I haven't been offered the update yet.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
-----Original Message-----
From: benmoxey@...
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom



Hi everyone



Coming in late on this discussion, so hope Im on the right track!



Ensure you update to the latest build of Zoom and you will notice that
they
have added the ability to turn on and off alerts for screen readers in
Settings/Accessibility. I only spotted this yesterday when installing it
for
a client.



Hope this helps.



Cheers



Ben





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom





I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you have
the
ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they can tweak to
make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for the meeting Host
and
Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page:
https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your-meeting
-settings
and search on, "Sound notification when someone join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of same,
I'm
willing to bet that it might. It's worth checking out, at the very
least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of
accessibility plus a lot of others. I doubt that they ever, in their
wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and gaining as
many
users as it has in a very short period of time. While there are limited
human resources for tweaking Zoom, they certainly can't make changes for
any
problems unless those problems are reported to them and the changes that
would help are spelled out.

--

Carlos Esteban Martnez Macas.

Msico (pianista) y tambin ayuda a usuarios ciegos con el uso de
lectores de pantalla y tecnologa.

Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.


Musicien (pianist) and also help to the blind people in the use of
screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

ExpertocertificadoenNVDA <https://certification.nvaccess.org>












More help: Selecting text with the caret without losing selection

Jonathan Milam
 

Hi All,

To revisit this issue, what I am needing to do is to use the System Caret
and be able to select text using the caret itself. With this application,
whenever I select text with caret browsing on in Firefox, I am supposed to
be able to find and select a button called "annotate" that appears when text
is selected. However, when I select text, and use the caret desktop
shortcut key NVDA+Shift+UpArrow, NVDA tells me that the text is selected,
however, if I move away from the selection to search for the button that
should appear, the selection is lost in browse mode. I am not getting any
feedback when in Focus mode. How can I select text with the caret and then
search for the annotate button without losing my selection while in browse
mode? Is that possible?

Originally, I thought object navigation would work here, but Object
navigation isn't actually using the caret when selecting text.

Thanks,
Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 10:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Selecting text

I don't know if this works in all browsers that support browse mode. it
does work in some.
I am using movement commands for the desktop keyboard layout.

Be in object review.
Use numpad 4 and 6 by themselves. 4 will move back and 6 will move forward.
You are moving by word. To move by line, use 7 and 9. To move by letter,
use 1 and 3.
When you get to the beginning of what you want to select, issue the command
NVDA f9. Move to the end of what you want to select and issue the command
NVDA f10 quickly. You should hear something indicating that text was
selected. To copy text to the clipboard, issue the command twice quickly,
not once.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Milam
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2020 8:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Selecting text



Hi All,



I am testing a web application called “Hypothesis” and need to be able to
select text while in browse mode, separate from the caret. Is there a way
of selecting text with NVDA in one of its object modes so that I can have
the main browser cursor elsewhere?



Thanks,

Jonathan


Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Angelo Sonnesso
 

Hot Keys and Keyboard Shortcuts for Zoom
Overview
There are keyboard shortcuts that you can use on the Zoom Desktop Client for
Windows and Mac that allow you to navigate the Zoom settings without using
your mouse. They are listed in this article and also available in your Zoom
desktop client settings, under Accessibility.

Prerequisites
Windows Desktop Client Version 3.5.19869.0701 or higher
Mac Desktop Client Version 3.5.19877.0701 or higher
Linux Desktop Client Version 1.1.32904.1120 or higher
iPad with iOS App Version 4.4.5 (55341.0715) or higher
Windows Icon Windows
You can view and edit keyboard shortcuts in your Accessibility settings.

Log in to your Zoom desktop client.
Click your profile picture then click Settings.
Settings Option Under Profile Picture
Click Keyboard Shortcuts.

The keyboard shortcuts will appear.
Editing Shortcuts
You can edit a shortcut by clicking on the shortcut and then pressing the
shortcut key that you would like to use.

Some of the shortcuts can be used as global shortcuts, meaning they will
work even when Zoom is not in focus. To enable a shortcut globally, check
the option next to the shortcut.

Available Keyboard Shortcuts
F6: Navigate among Zoom popup windows.
Ctrl+Alt+Shift: Move focus to Zoom's meeting controls
PageUp: View previous 25 video stream in gallery view
PageDown: View next 25 video stream in gallery view
Alt: Turn on/off the option Always show meeting control toolbar in
Accessibility Settings
Alt+F1: Switch to active speaker view in video meeting
Alt+F2: Switch to gallery video view in video meeting
Alt+F4: Close the current window
Alt+V: Start/Stop Video
Alt+A: Mute/unmute audio
Alt+M: Mute/unmute audio for everyone except host Note: For the meeting host
only
Alt+S: Launch share screen window and stop screen share Note: Will only work
when meeting control toolbar has focus
Alt+Shift+S: Start/stop new screen share Note: Will only work when meeting
control toolbar has focus
Alt+T: Pause or resume screen share Note: Will only work when meeting
control toolbar has focus
Alt+R: Start/stop local recording
Alt+C: Start/stop cloud recording
Alt+P: Pause or resume recording
Alt+N: Switch camera
Alt+F: Enter or exit full screen
Alt+H: Display/hide In-Meeting Chat panel
Alt+U:Display/hide Participants panel
Alt+I: Open Invite window
Alt+Y: Raise/lower hand
Alt+Shift+R: Gain Remote Control
Alt+Shift+G: Stop Remote Control
Ctrl+2: Read active speaker name
Ctrl+Alt+Shift+H: Show/Hide floating meeting controls
Alt+Shift+T: Screenshot
Switch to Portrait/Landscape View: Alt+L
Ctrl+W: Close current chat session
Ctrl+Up: Go to previous chat
Ctrl+Down: Go to next chat
Ctrl+T: Jump to chat with someone
Ctrl+F: Search
Ctrl+Tab: Move to the next tab (right)
Ctrl+Shift+Tab: Move to the previous tab (left)

Note: You can edit your keyboard shortcuts in Windows if you need or want
to. To do this, you’ll click on the shortcut and then press the shortcut key
that you would like to use.

Log in to your Zoom desktop client.
Click your profile picture then click Settings.
Click Keyboard Shortcuts.
The keyboard shortcuts will appear.
Some of these hotkeys can be used as global shortcuts, meaning they will
work even when Zoom is not in focus. To enable a shortcut globally, check
the option next to the shortcut.


73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rob
Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 8:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

How do you get to the accessibility settings.
I joined a test meeting with the zoom meetings client, and I found no
setting sbutton anywhere that talked about it. I found audio settings and
such, but nothing about accessibility.

----- Original Message -----
From: "CARLOS-ESTEBAN" <carlosestebanpianista@...>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 20:22:39 -0500
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Hello.

I updated Zoom and is possible enable o disable the alerts, is an
excellent change.

Thanks to all for the answers.

Regards.


El 10/8/2020 a las 19:34, benmoxey@... escribió:
Hi Gene

You can check manually using the menu. Place focus on the main Zoom
window and hit Control + F to navigate to the find edit box. Hit tab to
navigate to the menu.

Cheers

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 9:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

I haven't been offered the update yet.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
-----Original Message-----
From: benmoxey@...
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom



Hi everyone



Coming in late on this discussion, so hope I’m on the right track!



Ensure you update to the latest build of Zoom and you will notice that
they
have added the ability to turn on and off alerts for screen readers in
Settings/Accessibility. I only spotted this yesterday when installing it
for
a client.



Hope this helps.



Cheers



Ben





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom





I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you have
the
ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they can tweak to
make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for the meeting Host
and
Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page:
https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your-meeting
-settings
and search on, "Sound notification when someone join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of same,
I'm
willing to bet that it might. It's worth checking out, at the very
least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of
accessibility plus a lot of others. I doubt that they ever, in their
wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and gaining as
many
users as it has in a very short period of time. While there are limited
human resources for tweaking Zoom, they certainly can't make changes for
any
problems unless those problems are reported to them and the changes that
would help are spelled out.

--

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios ciegos con el uso de
lectores de pantalla y tecnología.

Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.


Musicien (pianist) and also help to the blind people in the use of
screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

Experto certificado en NVDA <https://certification.nvaccess.org>






Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Rob Hudson
 

How do you get to the accessibility settings.
I joined a test meeting with the zoom meetings client, and I found no setting sbutton anywhere that talked about it. I found audio settings and such, but nothing about accessibility.

----- Original Message -----
From: "CARLOS-ESTEBAN" <carlosestebanpianista@...>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 20:22:39 -0500
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Hello.

I updated Zoom and is possible enable o disable the alerts, is an
excellent change.

Thanks to all for the answers.

Regards.


El 10/8/2020 a las 19:34, benmoxey@... escribi:
Hi Gene

You can check manually using the menu. Place focus on the main Zoom window and hit Control + F to navigate to the find edit box. Hit tab to navigate to the menu.

Cheers

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 9:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

I haven't been offered the update yet.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
-----Original Message-----
From: benmoxey@...
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom



Hi everyone



Coming in late on this discussion, so hope Im on the right track!



Ensure you update to the latest build of Zoom and you will notice that they
have added the ability to turn on and off alerts for screen readers in
Settings/Accessibility. I only spotted this yesterday when installing it for
a client.



Hope this helps.



Cheers



Ben





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom





I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you have the
ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they can tweak to
make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for the meeting Host and
Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page:
https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your-meeting-settings
and search on, "Sound notification when someone join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of same, I'm
willing to bet that it might. It's worth checking out, at the very least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of
accessibility plus a lot of others. I doubt that they ever, in their
wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and gaining as many
users as it has in a very short period of time. While there are limited
human resources for tweaking Zoom, they certainly can't make changes for any
problems unless those problems are reported to them and the changes that
would help are spelled out.

--

Carlos Esteban Martnez Macas.

Msico (pianista) y tambin ayuda a usuarios ciegos con el uso de
lectores de pantalla y tecnologa.

Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.


Musicien (pianist) and also help to the blind people in the use of
screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

ExpertocertificadoenNVDA <https://certification.nvaccess.org>






problem with search edit box in folders

seb naudet
 

Hello list,

i've recently updated my windows 10 pro (64-bit)
Version 2004 (10.0.19041)

and last NVDA available.

when i search for a file in a folder i now have to press enter after typing the name, and alt tab to see the result of my search.

quite complicate compared with previous version of windows.

any idea to simplify access to search results?


    thank you


Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Good news Ben, thanks for that.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of benmoxey@...
Sent: Dienstag, 11. August 2020 01:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

 

Hi everyone

 

Coming in late on this discussion, so hope I’m on the right track!

 

Ensure you update to the latest build of Zoom and you will notice that they have added the ability to turn on and off alerts for screen readers in Settings/Accessibility. I only spotted this yesterday when installing it for a client.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Cheers

 

Ben

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

 

I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you have the ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they can tweak to make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for the meeting Host and Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your-meeting-settings
and search on, "
Sound notification when someone join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of same, I'm willing to bet that it might.  It's worth checking out, at the very least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of accessibility plus a lot of others.  I doubt that they ever, in their wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and gaining as many users as it has in a very short period of time.  While there are limited human resources for tweaking Zoom, they certainly can't make changes for any problems unless those problems are reported to them and the changes that would help are spelled out.

 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: Object Navigation - Where and How Do You Use It?

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Charles,

As others have noted, Object Navigation is a feature of NVDA, and most of the other examples given illustrate that its main purpose is to give you an alternate way of navigating when a program can't be navigated using regular keys (arrows, tab, other keyboard shortcuts).  In some cases, such as the Settings in Windows 10, you can get around and manipulate the controls using regular keys like tab, however there is additional information presented, which is only given as a read-only piece of text which never gets focus.  In that case, object navigation is a way of reading that text.

Where object navigation lets you move between objects, the review cursor is used to move through text within the current object.

The "Basic Training for NVDA" material available from NV Access teaches both Object Navigation and the Review cursor.  You can find a sample of it (which includes the Review Cursor section) from the "Basic Training for NVDA eBook Sample" link on: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/basic-training-for-nvda-ebook/ (If you would prefer an audio sample, you can find that from the "Basic NVDA Training MP3 Sample" link on https://www.nvaccess.org/product/basic-training-for-nvda-downloadable-audio/  The book is also available in Braille: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/basic-training-for-nvda-braille-hard-copy/ - but there isn't a sample in Braille :) )

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 9:16 AM Charles Adkins <cadkins6739@...> wrote:
Ok, let me ask a dum question. Is object navigation a part of NVDA or do I need to install an add-on? Thanks so much. If this was already answered earlier and I missed it, my apology.
> On Aug 9, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>
> Today, I wanted to change the setting in Firefox about how it would work with history.  I wanted to use the combo box to have it use custom settings. But every time I would change the setting, even after opening the combo box, a dialog would come up telling me I would have to restart the program for the setting to take effect.  I used object navigation, after opening the combo box with alt down arrow, to see the options without triggering the dialog and I selected the one I wanted by working with the object.  I don't remember if I used the mouse option or the perform default action option. Screen review was useless.  I wouldn't have been able to work with the combo box without object navigation.
>
> Gene
> -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Le Baudour
> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2020 5:39 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Object Navigation - Where and How Do You Use It?
>
> Hi,
>
> one use that doesn't seem to be mentioned so far is when using simple
> navigation triggers events you don't want, that happens with some web
> pages, with other workarounds - The one concrete case i encounter
> fequently is  visual studio, for instance when navigating through the
> category tree in options, some categories may take quite a while to
> load., so using object navigation to explore and only select what I need
> is much less annoying.
>
> --  patrick
>
>
>
>
>





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Gene
 

Thanks. n

I'll look but I might as well just wait for it. I don't care much if I hear the announcements or not and there are times I like to know when someone enters or leaves.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: benmoxey@...
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 7:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Hi Gene

You can check manually using the menu. Place focus on the main Zoom window and hit Control + F to navigate to the find edit box. Hit tab to navigate to the menu.

Cheers

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 9:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

I haven't been offered the update yet.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
-----Original Message-----
From: benmoxey@...
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom



Hi everyone



Coming in late on this discussion, so hope I’m on the right track!



Ensure you update to the latest build of Zoom and you will notice that they
have added the ability to turn on and off alerts for screen readers in
Settings/Accessibility. I only spotted this yesterday when installing it for
a client.



Hope this helps.



Cheers



Ben





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom





I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you have the
ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they can tweak to
make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for the meeting Host and
Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page:
https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your-meeting-settings
and search on, "Sound notification when someone join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of same, I'm
willing to bet that it might. It's worth checking out, at the very least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of
accessibility plus a lot of others. I doubt that they ever, in their
wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and gaining as many
users as it has in a very short period of time. While there are limited
human resources for tweaking Zoom, they certainly can't make changes for any
problems unless those problems are reported to them and the changes that
would help are spelled out.


--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

~ Oscar Wilde


Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

CARLOS-ESTEBAN
 

Is an excellent change, thanks!

I updated Zoom and is possible.

Regards.


El 10/8/2020 a las 18:36, benmoxey@... escribió:

Hi everyone

 

Coming in late on this discussion, so hope I’m on the right track!

 

Ensure you update to the latest build of Zoom and you will notice that they have added the ability to turn on and off alerts for screen readers in Settings/Accessibility. I only spotted this yesterday when installing it for a client.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Cheers

 

Ben

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

 

I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you have the ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they can tweak to make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for the meeting Host and Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your-meeting-settings
and search on, "Sound notification when someone join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of same, I'm willing to bet that it might.  It's worth checking out, at the very least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of accessibility plus a lot of others.  I doubt that they ever, in their wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and gaining as many users as it has in a very short period of time.  While there are limited human resources for tweaking Zoom, they certainly can't make changes for any problems unless those problems are reported to them and the changes that would help are spelled out.

 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 

--

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios ciegos con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología.

Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.


Musicien (pianist) and also help to the blind people in the use of screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.


Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

CARLOS-ESTEBAN
 

Hello.

I updated Zoom and is possible enable o disable the alerts, is an excellent change.

Thanks to all for the answers.

Regards.


El 10/8/2020 a las 19:34, benmoxey@... escribió:
Hi Gene

You can check manually using the menu. Place focus on the main Zoom window and hit Control + F to navigate to the find edit box. Hit tab to navigate to the menu.

Cheers

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 9:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

I haven't been offered the update yet.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
-----Original Message----- 
From: benmoxey@...
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom



Hi everyone



Coming in late on this discussion, so hope I’m on the right track!



Ensure you update to the latest build of Zoom and you will notice that they 
have added the ability to turn on and off alerts for screen readers in 
Settings/Accessibility. I only spotted this yesterday when installing it for 
a client.



Hope this helps.



Cheers



Ben





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom





I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you have the 
ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they can tweak to 
make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for the meeting Host and 
Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page: 
https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your-meeting-settings
and search on, "Sound notification when someone join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of same, I'm 
willing to bet that it might.  It's worth checking out, at the very least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of 
accessibility plus a lot of others.  I doubt that they ever, in their 
wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and gaining as many 
users as it has in a very short period of time.  While there are limited 
human resources for tweaking Zoom, they certainly can't make changes for any 
problems unless those problems are reported to them and the changes that 
would help are spelled out.


--

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios ciegos con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología.

Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.


Musicien (pianist) and also help to the blind people in the use of screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.


Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

benmoxey@...
 

Hi Gene

You can check manually using the menu. Place focus on the main Zoom window and hit Control + F to navigate to the find edit box. Hit tab to navigate to the menu.

Cheers

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 9:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

I haven't been offered the update yet.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
-----Original Message-----
From: benmoxey@...
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom



Hi everyone



Coming in late on this discussion, so hope I’m on the right track!



Ensure you update to the latest build of Zoom and you will notice that they
have added the ability to turn on and off alerts for screen readers in
Settings/Accessibility. I only spotted this yesterday when installing it for
a client.



Hope this helps.



Cheers



Ben





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom





I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you have the
ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they can tweak to
make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for the meeting Host and
Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page:
https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your-meeting-settings
and search on, "Sound notification when someone join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of same, I'm
willing to bet that it might. It's worth checking out, at the very least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of
accessibility plus a lot of others. I doubt that they ever, in their
wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and gaining as many
users as it has in a very short period of time. While there are limited
human resources for tweaking Zoom, they certainly can't make changes for any
problems unless those problems are reported to them and the changes that
would help are spelled out.


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Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Gene
 

I haven't been offered the update yet.

Gene

----- Original Message -----
-----Original Message-----
From: benmoxey@...
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom



Hi everyone



Coming in late on this discussion, so hope I’m on the right track!



Ensure you update to the latest build of Zoom and you will notice that they have added the ability to turn on and off alerts for screen readers in Settings/Accessibility. I only spotted this yesterday when installing it for a client.



Hope this helps.



Cheers



Ben





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom





I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you have the ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they can tweak to make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for the meeting Host and Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your-meeting-settings
and search on, "Sound notification when someone join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of same, I'm willing to bet that it might. It's worth checking out, at the very least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of accessibility plus a lot of others. I doubt that they ever, in their wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and gaining as many users as it has in a very short period of time. While there are limited human resources for tweaking Zoom, they certainly can't make changes for any problems unless those problems are reported to them and the changes that would help are spelled out.


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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

~ Oscar Wilde


Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Gene
 

I doubt it. I suspect it is triggered in some way by text appearing or disappeariing from the attendees list. Also, in the Zoom meetings I've attended, there was no sound like a bell when someone joined or left.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 5:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you have the ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they can tweak to make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for the meeting Host and Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your-meeting-settings
and search on, "Sound notification when someone join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of same, I'm willing to bet that it might. It's worth checking out, at the very least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of accessibility plus a lot of others. I doubt that they ever, in their wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and gaining as many users as it has in a very short period of time. While there are limited human resources for tweaking Zoom, they certainly can't make changes for any problems unless those problems are reported to them and the changes that would help are spelled out.


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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

~ Oscar Wilde


Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

benmoxey@...
 

Hi everyone

 

Coming in late on this discussion, so hope I’m on the right track!

 

Ensure you update to the latest build of Zoom and you will notice that they have added the ability to turn on and off alerts for screen readers in Settings/Accessibility. I only spotted this yesterday when installing it for a client.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Cheers

 

Ben

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

 

I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you have the ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they can tweak to make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for the meeting Host and Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your-meeting-settings
and search on, "Sound notification when someone join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of same, I'm willing to bet that it might.  It's worth checking out, at the very least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of accessibility plus a lot of others.  I doubt that they ever, in their wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and gaining as many users as it has in a very short period of time.  While there are limited human resources for tweaking Zoom, they certainly can't make changes for any problems unless those problems are reported to them and the changes that would help are spelled out.

 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

 

I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you have the ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they can tweak to make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for the meeting Host and Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your-meeting-settings
and search on, "Sound notification when someone join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of same, I'm willing to bet that it might.  It's worth checking out, at the very least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of accessibility plus a lot of others.  I doubt that they ever, in their wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and gaining as many users as it has in a very short period of time.  While there are limited human resources for tweaking Zoom, they certainly can't make changes for any problems unless those problems are reported to them and the changes that would help are spelled out.

 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Gene
 

This is forced speech and I see nothing in Zoom that allows it to be turhned off. Technically, I'm not sure how this is done, I suspect something like an Aria tag. Whatever the case, I think the Zoom developers should be notified that notifications such as who enters and leaves meetings and the automatic notification of chat messages should be able to be turned off. Forced speech anywhere should never be unable to be turned off.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: CARLOS-ESTEBAN
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 5:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom



Hi all.

Some users have this situation: In a Zoom meetin, when a person have problems of conection and leave, NVDA sais who leave the meetin.

But if the user read somme ting with NVDA, for example, slides from a presentation, NVDA stop the reading and talk the alert.

The options report notifications and report dinamic contend changes disabled in the category object presentation dont disable the alerts from Zoom. Some idea? have a developer a temporal solution or an app module?

Thanks.




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Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios ciegos con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología.

Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.




Musicien (pianist) and also help to the blind people in the use of screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.