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Re: number pronunciation

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


Where do I go to find these archives you mentioned?

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] number pronunciation

See the topic: 

NVDA reading single numbers!  in the archive.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

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Re: A random question, related to screen readers in general

Tyler Wood
 

Hi Brian,

I'm sorry - I'm just making sure I'm reading your message correctly.


Am I able to take advantage of free matter for the blind in Canada? Can I use this for sending things out of Canada or only receiving them and what specific items are included in that?


thank you so much for this information. CNIB does love to charge amazingly high prices for just about everything - and yet their services in pertinent areas, like mobility etc, suffers.

On 2018-12-01 2:07 a.m., Brian K. Lingard wrote:
Dear Erik & List:

If you quoted the CNIB price for a Perkins Classic Brailler, you may find
the price they are sold by Howe Press, Perkins School for The Blind,
Watertown, MA USA is significantly cheaper even after converting their price
in US funds to Canadian Dollars. Seems the fewer hands these units pass
through, the cheaper the price. Howe Press are the makers. They offer
excellent delivery by Free Matter for The Blind from Watertown. I habitually
buy all accessories for my Brailler from them as they always have the items
in stock.
At one point, CNIB was selling Perkins Braillers for $1,200/each, the sum
Ontario Assistive Devices Program would pay for them, while Howe Press sold
them for $US800. Even after conversion to Canadian Dollars, I saved money,
CNIB was as usual at the time, out of stock, did not stock any accessories
such as the wooden case, Sound Pad Etc. Howe did, I had the unit in hand
within about a week. It is interesting how CNIB prices goods at the Maximum
Ontario ADP will pay. While CNIB has no shareholders to distribute profits
to, it does not prevent them reaping handsome profits. You can purchase
Braille paper from APH, Louisville, KY at a handsome savings over CNIB
prices. Uncertain as to why, CNIB pays postage on orders sent by mail,
despite the Literature for The Blind Post-Free concession covering
everything imaginable for the Blind, including Braille Press parts, paper
Braillers Etc. with Insurance and/or Registration at no fee. The concession
is available to any address in Canada, including addresses with fly-in only
mail delivery, for points in the High Arctic.
Similar concessions apply to Foreign addresses, with the restriction that
only documents, not merchandise,, may be sent registered. Allow 1-2 weeks
for delivery from APH by Free Matter.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of erik burggraaf
Sent: November 26, 2018 7:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A random question, related to screen readers in general

and yet, my experience is much the opposite. Braille displays are partially
funded by the government here, and many people have them. I have one,
because I am a programming student, but even before that, I had a mobile
Braille display. I can't really use braille and speech effectively, so I am
in the habit of turning off the speech when my Braille display is connected,
and just reading. Reading Braille is slower for me than listening, but it's
much more accurate.

if I had to pay for it all on my own, I doubt I would be able to afford it,
but since I have access, I have it and I use it.

consider that the cost of Braille displays is falling sharply. In 2007, the
cost of a 40 cell Braille display was approximately $7,200 Canadian. Today
the cost of a 40 cell Braille display is approximately $3,500 Canadian. In
2008, there were only two real microbe braille displays that I can think of.
Today, there are at least 10 or 15 displays available, in the 20 cells and
under form factor. Some of them cost as little as 6 or $800. Compare the
cost of a braille knee at $650 Canadian to the cost of the classic Perkins
Brailler at $1,300 Canadian, and clearly, brailleme me comes out on top as
the new learning tool for Braille.

The pundits who fear Braille because it makes them look or act blind, are
losing the price argument. Braille is becoming more affordable by the day,
and I think it will make a serious come back. You cannot tell a person that
they need to go through life illiterate, it just isn't right.




On November 26, 2018 5:03:46 AM "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io"
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Of course like many surveys, it is just a result of those who did the
survey. I strongly suspect out of the general users the percentage is a lot
lower than this.
I have many friends who are nvda users not one of them has a Braille
display, and only a handful can read the code in any case.
I certainly cannot justify buying one. I can see how for many functions it
would be useful if you can read it, such as programming etc., but for
general use on an everyday basis by somebody just using applications, email
and some shopping or social media, much of the latter now done on mobiles,
then really its not needed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "James AUSTIN" <james.londonsw15@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A random question, related to screen readers in general


I think that the WebAIM Screen Readers surveys have this info

TC
James
On 25 Nov 2018, at 23:26, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

A Google Search for something like percent of screen-reader users use
Braille produced this as one result:
https://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey7/
If you search for the word Braille and repeat the search until you get
to the relevant content, you will find information about the number of
users of different screen-readers who use Braille output.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 4:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A random question, related to screen readers in
general

Hello all


Does anyone know how I might find out what percentage of screen reader
users use braille displays?


Apologies for the random nature of this question,


--Sile
















Re: Open With Screen does not read at all with NVDA 2018.3.2

 

Hello,
My OS is latest windows 10 64 bit, and my NVDA is installed.
I'll look forward to the new release!


On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 11:22 AM Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:

Operating system version?


Just tested this on my windows 10 64 bit, build version 1809 (build 18282.1000) machine, using NVDA 2018.4 beta 2, and, the open with dialogue/interface worked fine.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2018-11-30 9:16 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,
Does anyone else have this problem? If I open a file type that does not have any association or open with / choose another app I can't hear anything and I can't interact with the screen at all.
Thanks,


Re: NVDA cannot activate buttons and links

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Works for me in Firefox and waterfox. Its all a conspiracy to stop the blind getting on the web you know! :-)

Seriously though, you need to think about what you have done recently.
Also restart the computer and try other browsers
Next try other web sites as that particular site looks no different to nay other to me.
Well apart from the paranoid content anyway.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Pascal Lambert " <coccinelle86@comcast.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 11:18 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA cannot activate buttons and links


Hi All,

Recently I have been unable to activate buttons and links on the www.infowars.com <http://www.infowars.com> webpage. Anyone encountering this?

Any suggestion is appreciated.

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 2:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA



Can you give us the address of the page so people can try it?



Gene

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Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 10:45 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA



Yes, I tried this ... no luck ...


--Sile

On 11/30/2018 9:31 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Switch out of focus to browse mode first and then fiddle around with
them. NVDA is notorious at not updating the states of radio buttons in
a table on a web page. I['m pretty sure there was a debate if this was
poor page authoring or not about 2 years ago?
I encountered this recently on a health log in account creation site
as well. I could not se my gender. It looked like I was both male and
female. A medical miracle but on refreshing the page they seemed to
be changed but nvda did not say they had or got them both as on.

Brian

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Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA


Hello


Just wondering if anyone has run into this problem with NVDA. I am
trying to select radio buttons that are within a table (basically
ranking students on a scale from 1-5 on several criteria, with each
criterion being one row of radio buttons.)


It doesn't matter whether I use firefox or chrome, the radio buttons
don't seem to change state whether I hit spacebar or return, or
whether I am in edit mode or not.


Anyone got any ideas?


--Sile






Re: Kindle problem solved

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes I do notice that even on Windows 7, Jaws has inserted a permanent extra driver into the display chain, so maybe it was part of that. Normally its pretty good at removing its bits and pieces though.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Travis Siegel" <tsiegel@softcon.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 7:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] Kindle problem solved


Last night I went through the list of programs in task manager, and one
of the programs that was running was one jhook, apparently, a remnant
left over from when I tried to run jaws demo to find out why NVDA wasn't
working earlier this week. Turns out that after AI removed this program
from the currently running tasks, my kindle reader went back to behaving
normally. I haven't a clue why it was still running, since jaws hadn't
even run, and any possible executables were shutdown days ago, but for
some reason, this jhook remained in memory and was causing problems with
kindle reader, which is odd, because it didn't seem to affect anything
else <shrug>. Anyway, my kindle is back to normal, and I'm very happy
about that, because it was a pain having to read my books only with the
Iphone, sometimes that's fine, but not all the time.

Just thought I'd post here, in case anyone else runs into the problem
and is looking for a fix. The solution is to look through your task
manager, and remove any programs that aren't being used, it's an
extremely useful thing to do. Of course, be sure what you're removing,
you wouldn't want to stop a vital process from running, that could cause
no end of difficulties. *grin*


Re: Open With Screen does not read at all with NVDA 2018.3.2

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The other thing I was going to say is that increasingly windows 10 hasfewer things that work with portable versions from my experience.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacob@blindza.co.za>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Open With Screen does not read at all with NVDA 2018.3.2


Operating system version?


Just tested this on my windows 10 64 bit, build version 1809 (build
18282.1000) machine, using NVDA 2018.4 beta 2, and, the open with
dialogue/interface worked fine.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2018-11-30 9:16 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,
Does anyone else have this problem? If I open a file type that does
not have any association or open with / choose another app I can't
hear anything and I can't interact with the screen at all.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>


Re: A random question, related to screen readers in general

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Erik & List:

If you quoted the CNIB price for a Perkins Classic Brailler, you may find
the price they are sold by Howe Press, Perkins School for The Blind,
Watertown, MA USA is significantly cheaper even after converting their price
in US funds to Canadian Dollars. Seems the fewer hands these units pass
through, the cheaper the price. Howe Press are the makers. They offer
excellent delivery by Free Matter for The Blind from Watertown. I habitually
buy all accessories for my Brailler from them as they always have the items
in stock.
At one point, CNIB was selling Perkins Braillers for $1,200/each, the sum
Ontario Assistive Devices Program would pay for them, while Howe Press sold
them for $US800. Even after conversion to Canadian Dollars, I saved money,
CNIB was as usual at the time, out of stock, did not stock any accessories
such as the wooden case, Sound Pad Etc. Howe did, I had the unit in hand
within about a week. It is interesting how CNIB prices goods at the Maximum
Ontario ADP will pay. While CNIB has no shareholders to distribute profits
to, it does not prevent them reaping handsome profits. You can purchase
Braille paper from APH, Louisville, KY at a handsome savings over CNIB
prices. Uncertain as to why, CNIB pays postage on orders sent by mail,
despite the Literature for The Blind Post-Free concession covering
everything imaginable for the Blind, including Braille Press parts, paper
Braillers Etc. with Insurance and/or Registration at no fee. The concession
is available to any address in Canada, including addresses with fly-in only
mail delivery, for points in the High Arctic.
Similar concessions apply to Foreign addresses, with the restriction that
only documents, not merchandise,, may be sent registered. Allow 1-2 weeks
for delivery from APH by Free Matter.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of erik burggraaf
Sent: November 26, 2018 7:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A random question, related to screen readers in general

and yet, my experience is much the opposite. Braille displays are partially
funded by the government here, and many people have them. I have one,
because I am a programming student, but even before that, I had a mobile
Braille display. I can't really use braille and speech effectively, so I am
in the habit of turning off the speech when my Braille display is connected,
and just reading. Reading Braille is slower for me than listening, but it's
much more accurate.

if I had to pay for it all on my own, I doubt I would be able to afford it,
but since I have access, I have it and I use it.

consider that the cost of Braille displays is falling sharply. In 2007, the
cost of a 40 cell Braille display was approximately $7,200 Canadian. Today
the cost of a 40 cell Braille display is approximately $3,500 Canadian. In
2008, there were only two real microbe braille displays that I can think of.
Today, there are at least 10 or 15 displays available, in the 20 cells and
under form factor. Some of them cost as little as 6 or $800. Compare the
cost of a braille knee at $650 Canadian to the cost of the classic Perkins
Brailler at $1,300 Canadian, and clearly, brailleme me comes out on top as
the new learning tool for Braille.

The pundits who fear Braille because it makes them look or act blind, are
losing the price argument. Braille is becoming more affordable by the day,
and I think it will make a serious come back. You cannot tell a person that
they need to go through life illiterate, it just isn't right.




On November 26, 2018 5:03:46 AM "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io"
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Of course like many surveys, it is just a result of those who did the
survey. I strongly suspect out of the general users the percentage is a lot
lower than this.
I have many friends who are nvda users not one of them has a Braille
display, and only a handful can read the code in any case.
I certainly cannot justify buying one. I can see how for many functions it
would be useful if you can read it, such as programming etc., but for
general use on an everyday basis by somebody just using applications, email
and some shopping or social media, much of the latter now done on mobiles,
then really its not needed.
Brian

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Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message -----
From: "James AUSTIN" <james.londonsw15@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A random question, related to screen readers in general


I think that the WebAIM Screen Readers surveys have this info

TC
James
On 25 Nov 2018, at 23:26, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

A Google Search for something like percent of screen-reader users use
Braille produced this as one result:
https://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey7/
If you search for the word Braille and repeat the search until you get
to the relevant content, you will find information about the number of
users of different screen-readers who use Braille output.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 4:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A random question, related to screen readers in
general

Hello all


Does anyone know how I might find out what percentage of screen reader
users use braille displays?


Apologies for the random nature of this question,


--Sile





Re: NVDA not working with links, Again

Hareth
 

Just tried it with Firefox60 ESR, and edge It works fine.
So its a Chrome only issue.
But still with chrome jaws works!!
I hate to switch screen reader just to click a link. You know what I mean.

On 12/1/18, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
You may have answered this before, but for r3ecord keeping purposes: is this
specific to Chrome (perhaps Chrome 70 or above), or can you reproduce this
with other web browsers?
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hareth
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 8:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA not working with links, Again

the last 3 versions of NVDA that I remember, currently with the latest
2018.4 beta2
With chrome browser 64bit on windows10 up to date

NVDA not activating the Start voice call" link on facebook messenger
webpage.
https://www.messenger.com

https://web.facebook.com/messages

pressing: enter, shift+enter, spacebar,
insert+numpad 5 then left click, ensert+f7 select link, then tab to
activate also no good
objPad all curcer modes also not working with it.
Application key doesnt work with it just like it's not been selected, nor
the shift+f10.

BTW its working fine with FS jaws18 2018 2019, with the enter and the
spacebar, and the applications and shift+f10 keys.
There are more webpage links I've found not working with NVDA, while
internet browsing, didn't save them. I'd try to list and report them next
time.

Best







Re: NVDA not working with links, Again

 

Hi,
You may have answered this before, but for r3ecord keeping purposes: is this specific to Chrome (perhaps Chrome 70 or above), or can you reproduce this with other web browsers?
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hareth
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 8:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA not working with links, Again

the last 3 versions of NVDA that I remember, currently with the latest
2018.4 beta2
With chrome browser 64bit on windows10 up to date

NVDA not activating the Start voice call" link on facebook messenger webpage.
https://www.messenger.com

https://web.facebook.com/messages

pressing: enter, shift+enter, spacebar,
insert+numpad 5 then left click, ensert+f7 select link, then tab to
activate also no good
objPad all curcer modes also not working with it.
Application key doesnt work with it just like it's not been selected, nor the shift+f10.

BTW its working fine with FS jaws18 2018 2019, with the enter and the spacebar, and the applications and shift+f10 keys.
There are more webpage links I've found not working with NVDA, while internet browsing, didn't save them. I'd try to list and report them next time.

Best


NVDA not working with links, Again

Hareth
 

the last 3 versions of NVDA that I remember, currently with the latest
2018.4 beta2
With chrome browser 64bit on windows10 up to date

NVDA not activating the Start voice call" link on facebook messenger webpage.
https://www.messenger.com

https://web.facebook.com/messages

pressing: enter, shift+enter, spacebar,
insert+numpad 5 then left click, ensert+f7 select link, then tab to
activate also no good
objPad all curcer modes also not working with it.
Application key doesnt work with it just like it's not been selected,
nor the shift+f10.

BTW its working fine with FS jaws18 2018 2019, with the enter and the
spacebar, and the applications and shift+f10 keys.
There are more webpage links I've found not working with NVDA, while
internet browsing, didn't save them. I'd try to list and report them
next time.

Best


Re: Strange proglem when exiting NVDA Portable Version.

Quentin Christensen
 

Which version of NVDA are you using?  If you are using 2018.3.2, if you create a portable version of 2018.4beta2, does that also crash on exit?

Are you using an add-ons or synthesizers?

If you could send me a copy of both the log and crash dump that NVDA creates, we can look further into those and see if there is anything there to help.

See https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/LogFilesAndCrashDumps for info on both the log file and crash dump files.

Regards

Quentin.


On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 4:29 AM <prem.translator@...> wrote:
Dear All,
I have two NVDAs in my laptop, one is the installed version, and the other is portable. The following is my situation.

When I run the installed version, there is no problem when pressed NVDA+q to exit. However, when I run the portable one, I cannot exit using the same command, NVDA will always restart itself. The only way to exit the portable version is to press CTRL+ALT+n to run the installed one. Below is the log containing the error.

Please help me,
Thank you.

"Exiting
CRITICAL - watchdog._crashHandler (00:10:27.492):
NVDA crashed! Minidump written to C:\Users\Pream\AppData\Local\Temp\nvda_crash.dmp
INFO - watchdog._crashHandler (00:10:28.474):
Python stack for thread 4840
Stack trace:
  File "threading.pyo", line 774, in __bootstrap
  File "threading.pyo", line 801, in __bootstrap_inner
  File "threading.pyo", line 754, in run
  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 227, in MTAThreadFunc
  File "threading.pyo", line 614, in wait
  File "threading.pyo", line 340, in wait
INFO - watchdog._crashHandler (00:10:28.474):
Python stack for thread 4828
Stack trace:
  File "threading.pyo", line 774, in __bootstrap
  File "threading.pyo", line 801, in __bootstrap_inner
  File "threading.pyo", line 754, in run
  File "braille.pyo", line 2101, in func
INFO - watchdog._crashHandler (00:10:28.474):
Python stack for thread 1020
Stack trace:
  File "threading.pyo", line 774, in __bootstrap
  File "threading.pyo", line 801, in __bootstrap_inner
  File "threading.pyo", line 754, in run
  File "winInputHook.pyo", line 70, in hookThreadFunc
INFO - watchdog._crashHandler (00:10:28.476):
Python stack for thread 4804
Stack trace:
  File "threading.pyo", line 774, in __bootstrap
  File "threading.pyo", line 801, in __bootstrap_inner
  File "synthDrivers\_espeak.pyo", line 152, in run
  File "Queue.pyo", line 168, in get
  File "threading.pyo", line 340, in wait
INFO - watchdog._crashHandler (00:10:28.476):
Python stack for thread 4296
Stack trace:
  File "nvda.pyw", line 214, in <module>
  File "core.pyo", line 516, in main
  File "core.pyo", line 562, in _terminate
  File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 553, in terminate
  File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
  File "watchdog.pyo", line 180, in _crashHandler
INFO - watchdog._crashHandler (00:10:28.476):
Restarting due to crash"



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Re: number pronunciation

 

See the topic: 

NVDA reading single numbers!  in the archive.

--

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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


number pronunciation

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

How do I get NVDA to say numbers as single characters? currently it speaks them as whole words.
 


Re: BETA2 DOESN'T READ TABLES IN PDF DOCUMENTS

Quentin Christensen
 

Just to be clear, I wasn't saying "It works fine, there's no problem", I was saying that NVDA can read (properly constructed) tables in PDF files in Adobe reader, and I double checked that with such a file in the latest version of Adobe Reader DC using NVDA 2018.4beta2.  I could still read such a file, therefore from what I can tell, it is likely an issue with the particular file being read, rather than, for instance, recent versions of NVDA no longer being able to read tables.

And yes, as Brian noted, you can't send attachments to the list - feel free to send it to me directly to info@...

Regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 1:42 AM Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
This is probably the age old issue of tagging reading order then. I am
really peed off with people saying it looks fine to us when I complain about
all words running together, being split mid word. a word per line or tables
that are scrambled or pages 1 and four then two and three reading in that
order. All of these seem to be due to the fact that since no reading order
is specified when it changes from normal basic right to left top to bottom
all sorts of chaos ensues when the  screenreader starts to read from the
change.
  Bah Humbug.
 Reading order should be forced on pdf makers or else.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] BETA2 DOESN'T READ TABLES IN PDF DOCUMENTS


I just tried with a file in Adobe Reader 2019.008.20081 and I can read and
navigate the table in this PDF file ok.

It is quite likely the way that the PDF file was made, which you'll likely
only know if you were the one who created it.

If you can email it to me, I can have a look, but short of recreating the
PDF from the original source, there's probably not a lot to do with an
existing file.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 12:19 PM Alexandre Alves Toco <
alexandretoco@...> wrote:

> Hi, opened a pdf that has a table in adobe reader.
>
> Same problem as 2018.3.2. Nvda doesn’t recognize the table.
>
>
>
>
>
> Enviado do Email <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> para
> Windows 10
>
>
>
>


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Re: Working with Cheats using NVDA in Project 64

abdul muhamin
 

N64 emulator is accessible, but I’m not sure about its cheat menu. I’ll try it and then let you know

 

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From: Tyler Wood
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 9:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Working with Cheats using NVDA in Project 64

 

It's a Nintendo 64 emulator.

 

 

Not sure how to help as I have no idea what the staff told the OP to do

and haven't gotten a response.

 

 

 

On 2018-11-30 8:25 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

> I have no idea what the software is, is it a commode 64 emulator grin....

> Brian

> bglists@...

> Sent via blueyonder.

> Please address personal E-mail to:-

> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

> in the display name field.

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Wood" <tcwood12@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 10:54 PM

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Working with Cheats using NVDA in Project 64

>> Hi,

>> 

>> Considering we're not entirely sure what said instructions are, it's

>> pretty much impossible to help.

>> 

>> 

>> What have you tried? What is giving you issues?

>> 

>> 

>> On 2018-11-29 4:48 p.m., Analis Dannen wrote:

>>> Greetings

>>> This is Analis. I am having an issue using NVDA with Project 64

>>> emulator. I want to use cheats in a specific game, and cannot seem to

>>> figure out what to do. I have followed the instructions PJ64 game me,

>>> and cannot pull it off. Am I doing something wrong? Thank you!

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 


Re: NVDA cannot activate buttons and links

Gene
 

Is there a particular page or if we go to the home page will this happen on any links or buttons?  also, which browsers have you tried?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 5:18 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA cannot activate buttons and links

Hi All,

Recently I have been unable to activate buttons and links on the www.infowars.com webpage.  Anyone encountering this?

Any suggestion is appreciated.

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 2:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA

 

Can you give us the address of the page so people can try it?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 10:45 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA

 

Yes, I tried this ... no  luck ...


--Sile

On 11/30/2018 9:31 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> Switch out of focus to browse mode first and then fiddle around with
> them. NVDA is notorious at not updating the states of radio buttons in
> a table on a web page. I['m pretty sure there was a debate if this was
> poor page authoring or not about 2 years ago?
> I encountered this recently on a health log in account creation site
> as well. I could not se my gender. It looked like I was both male and
> female. A medical miracle but on refreshing the page they seemed to 
> be changed but nvda did not say they had or got them both as  on.
>
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sile via Groups.Io"
> <somodhrain@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:29 PM
> Subject: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA
>
>
>> Hello
>>
>>
>> Just wondering if anyone has run into this problem with NVDA. I am
>> trying to select radio buttons that are within a table (basically
>> ranking students on a scale from 1-5 on several criteria, with each
>> criterion being one row of radio buttons.)
>>
>>
>> It doesn't matter whether I use firefox or chrome, the radio buttons
>> don't seem to change state whether I hit spacebar or return, or
>> whether I am in edit mode or not.
>>
>>
>> Anyone got any ideas?
>>
>>
>> --Sile
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


NVDA cannot activate buttons and links

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

Hi All,

Recently I have been unable to activate buttons and links on the www.infowars.com webpage.  Anyone encountering this?

Any suggestion is appreciated.

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 2:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA

 

Can you give us the address of the page so people can try it?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 10:45 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA

 

Yes, I tried this ... no  luck ...


--Sile

On 11/30/2018 9:31 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> Switch out of focus to browse mode first and then fiddle around with
> them. NVDA is notorious at not updating the states of radio buttons in
> a table on a web page. I['m pretty sure there was a debate if this was
> poor page authoring or not about 2 years ago?
> I encountered this recently on a health log in account creation site
> as well. I could not se my gender. It looked like I was both male and
> female. A medical miracle but on refreshing the page they seemed to 
> be changed but nvda did not say they had or got them both as  on.
>
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sile via Groups.Io"
> <somodhrain@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:29 PM
> Subject: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA
>
>
>> Hello
>>
>>
>> Just wondering if anyone has run into this problem with NVDA. I am
>> trying to select radio buttons that are within a table (basically
>> ranking students on a scale from 1-5 on several criteria, with each
>> criterion being one row of radio buttons.)
>>
>>
>> It doesn't matter whether I use firefox or chrome, the radio buttons
>> don't seem to change state whether I hit spacebar or return, or
>> whether I am in edit mode or not.
>>
>>
>> Anyone got any ideas?
>>
>>
>> --Sile
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


Re: I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA

Sile
 

Thats a bit tricky - it was a request for a letter of reference for a particular student that is generated by the system just for me :) all those horrible radio buttons, just for me :)


I might be able to get the graduate admissions people to generate a test application though,


--Sile

On 11/30/2018 2:33 PM, Gene wrote:
Can you give us the address of the page so people can try it?

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 10:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA


Yes, I tried this ... no luck ...


--Sile

On 11/30/2018 9:31 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Switch out of focus to browse mode first and then fiddle around with
them. NVDA is notorious at not updating the states of radio buttons in
a table on a web page. I['m pretty sure there was a debate if this was
poor page authoring or not about 2 years ago?
I encountered this recently on a health log in account creation site
as well. I could not se my gender. It looked like I was both male and
female. A medical miracle but on refreshing the page they seemed to
be changed but nvda did not say they had or got them both as on.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sile via Groups.Io"
<somodhrain=googlemail.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA


Hello


Just wondering if anyone has run into this problem with NVDA. I am
trying to select radio buttons that are within a table (basically
ranking students on a scale from 1-5 on several criteria, with each
criterion being one row of radio buttons.)


It doesn't matter whether I use firefox or chrome, the radio buttons
don't seem to change state whether I hit spacebar or return, or
whether I am in edit mode or not.


Anyone got any ideas?


--Sile







Re: I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA

Jonathan COHN
 

Well, there are native radio buttons and pseudo radio buttons. If the Web page creator decided to not use the native HTML radio buttons, then they should be adding keyboard handlers and need to add an ARIA attribute to show which button is clicked. Also, most likely these buttons as you describe them will not work on mobile devices.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 6:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA
Importance: Low

Hello


Just wondering if anyone has run into this problem with NVDA.  I am trying to select radio buttons that are within a table (basically ranking students on a scale from 1-5 on several criteria, with each criterion being one row of radio buttons.)


It doesn't matter whether I use firefox or chrome, the radio buttons don't seem to change state whether I hit spacebar or return, or whether I am in edit mode or not.


Anyone got any ideas?


--Sile


Re: Reading Charts

Stephen Costigan
 

Hi All,

Thank you for your suggestions, I sorted it out. I sent it to another
app on my phone and it was able to extract the data and read it out to me.


Stephen

On 18/11/2018 22:51, Jason White via Groups.Io wrote:
Can you export the data to a CSV file and then read it with a spreadsheet program?

On 11/18/18, 03:56, "Stephen Costigan" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of stephen.costigan@outlook.com> wrote:

Hi,

Can anyone tell me if NVDA can read charts, the reason why I ask is
because I can send reports and charts from my blood glucose machine to
my laptop.

Thank you in advance.

Stephen