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Re: ccleaner servey

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi okay so how do you use this program?

And is it free to use or only in A demo mode?



On 11/30/2018 11:51 AM, Robert Getting wrote:

To offer an alternative, even if updating has seemed to stop completely, I suggest Puran utilities. It does everything C Cleaner does and it even provides an accessible Revo uninstaller alternative. The download link is below. Bleachbit is the only open source alternative but it is not accessible at all, to NVDA or JAWS.

http://www.puransoftware.com/Puran-Utilities-Download.html

-- 

Casey


Re: ccleaner servey

 

To offer an alternative, even if updating has seemed to stop completely, I suggest Puran utilities. It does everything C Cleaner does and it even provides an accessible Revo uninstaller alternative. The download link is below. Bleachbit is the only open source alternative but it is not accessible at all, to NVDA or JAWS.

http://www.puransoftware.com/Puran-Utilities-Download.html


Re: ccleaner servey

 

One thing though, you get your ccleaner ini file big enough its going to slow down the engine my theory is it needs to read and run everything.

On 12/1/2018 3:24 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
.ini files are just one way to keep parameters for a piece of software, NVDA does use them and so does ccleaner but they occasionally screw up and overwrite the file or corrupt it.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin" <kleeva5@gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] ccleaner servey


What’s ini mean and is it different than the standard?

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ccleaner servey

This is the ini file I have used so far.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kbbbqs8blbyuev9/ccleaner.ini?dl=1

Every few days or so maybe every day or 2 you will have to copy this
file back to ccleaner because its going to reset a few things sadly but
oh well.




On 11/30/2018 7:33 AM, Tyler Wood wrote:
Hi,

What settings are recommended for the .ini file?

thanks


On 2018-11-29 12:25 p.m., Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi all.

For those that subscribe via email to cleaner news they have a servey
with the latest version update and I strongly recomend you take it.

I have completed it with the issues of. 1. accessibility to all
features, quickclean, and interface issues.

and 2. the fact that some settings can not be got to and that some
settings if changed are not honored at all and reverted like
quickclean stuff.

Why they choose to do this now is beyond me but they are doing it so.

















Re: ccleaner servey

 

Who knows they had issues before that, for me they were fine till about 3.2.

I really used to like ccleaner for what it is.

The only reason I don't replace it is that the feature set is good and the interface mostly works.

In fact for those that don't mind a bit of extra work even with the portable I would still recomend it as a good contender.

Sadly, without my ini file or a bit of sighted help to set the interface its pritty much useless.

Even if you take the interface out, I can't trust the installer, access wize, interface excluded if they can get some settings screens working, heck excluding things if I make changes to the ini file I expect something I make to stay and thats it really.

For my users though I don't want them to run my stuff I have had people get into all sort of reformatting trouble after doodling round with my stuff, my tools I trust them but I can use them.

CCleaner was good once it still is if you know what you are doing, but if you don't then it may or may not have the clout in my view it once did.

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My suspicion is that they have a team of programmers now they are part of Avast and its a general cock up situation as they could not design their way out of a paper bag.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 6:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] ccleaner servey


Hi all.

For those that subscribe via email to cleaner news they have a servey with the latest version update and I strongly recomend you take it.

I have completed it with the issues of. 1. accessibility to all features, quickclean, and interface issues.

and 2. the fact that some settings can not be got to and that some settings if changed are not honored at all and reverted like quickclean stuff.

Why they choose to do this now is beyond me but they are doing it so.







.


Strange proglem when exiting NVDA Portable Version.

prem.translator@...
 

Dear All,
I have two NVDAs in my laptop, one is the installed version, and the other is portable. The following is my situation.

When I run the installed version, there is no problem when pressed NVDA+q to exit. However, when I run the portable one, I cannot exit using the same command, NVDA will always restart itself. The only way to exit the portable version is to press CTRL+ALT+n to run the installed one. Below is the log containing the error.

Please help me,
Thank you.

"Exiting
CRITICAL - watchdog._crashHandler (00:10:27.492):
NVDA crashed! Minidump written to C:\Users\Pream\AppData\Local\Temp\nvda_crash.dmp
INFO - watchdog._crashHandler (00:10:28.474):
Python stack for thread 4840
Stack trace:
  File "threading.pyo", line 774, in __bootstrap
  File "threading.pyo", line 801, in __bootstrap_inner
  File "threading.pyo", line 754, in run
  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 227, in MTAThreadFunc
  File "threading.pyo", line 614, in wait
  File "threading.pyo", line 340, in wait
INFO - watchdog._crashHandler (00:10:28.474):
Python stack for thread 4828
Stack trace:
  File "threading.pyo", line 774, in __bootstrap
  File "threading.pyo", line 801, in __bootstrap_inner
  File "threading.pyo", line 754, in run
  File "braille.pyo", line 2101, in func
INFO - watchdog._crashHandler (00:10:28.474):
Python stack for thread 1020
Stack trace:
  File "threading.pyo", line 774, in __bootstrap
  File "threading.pyo", line 801, in __bootstrap_inner
  File "threading.pyo", line 754, in run
  File "winInputHook.pyo", line 70, in hookThreadFunc
INFO - watchdog._crashHandler (00:10:28.476):
Python stack for thread 4804
Stack trace:
  File "threading.pyo", line 774, in __bootstrap
  File "threading.pyo", line 801, in __bootstrap_inner
  File "synthDrivers\_espeak.pyo", line 152, in run
  File "Queue.pyo", line 168, in get
  File "threading.pyo", line 340, in wait
INFO - watchdog._crashHandler (00:10:28.476):
Python stack for thread 4296
Stack trace:
  File "nvda.pyw", line 214, in <module>
  File "core.pyo", line 516, in main
  File "core.pyo", line 562, in _terminate
  File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 553, in terminate
  File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
  File "watchdog.pyo", line 180, in _crashHandler
INFO - watchdog._crashHandler (00:10:28.476):
Restarting due to crash"


Re: I finally got NVDA to work on the Windows log on screen

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi Molly welcome to the list.

Just wondering where are you from and are you totally blind or do you have some vision?



On 11/30/2018 8:28 AM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I posted earlier about not being able to log in to Windows using NVDA. Well today when I turned on my tablet, it announced the time and date as usual. However, since I for some reason can’t use the touchscreen on the log on screen (except when Narrator is running(, I figured I’d hit the escape key just to see what would happen. Wouldn’t you know it, it brought me to the pin edit box. After typing in my pin, NVDA immediately turned on… I guess I should have tried this last week. Jeez. I feel so dumb. Anyway, the point is I can now log in without any issues.

-- 

Casey


Re: Logging Level

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No logging leveels seem not to matter and should not unless you have a very slow machine or drive indeed these days.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Logging Level


Hi,
Ideally info level should be used unless told by a developer or two to use debug level temporarily. Also, logging levels does not make a difference in responsiveness of a system - other variables such as what programs you're running (both foreground and background), system drivers, visuals and others contribute to performance somewhat.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralph Boersema
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 8:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Logging Level

Here's a quick question. Which logging level should I normally be using? I'm trying to make sure I'm using settings that do not slow down the program or computer.

Warmly,
Ralph


Re: downloading irish tts from www.abair.ie

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Is there not some kind of config like there is in other browsers, ie what should I do with this file or file type, download it open it with zip or whatever?

Its no good if the thing is set to open it as a page. You should be able to tell it to do what you want on that extension name.
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 2:54 PM
Subject: [nvda] downloading irish tts from www.abair.ie


Hi,

Is there a problem with chrome and NVDA addons I tried to download the irish tts nvda addon from www.abair.ie English website… and chrome tried opening the nvda addon file as if it were a website and displayed jibberish characters. The only way for me to download the addon was to use Microsoft edge. How do I get google chrome to download this addon?

Josh


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Re: I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA

Sile
 

Yes, I tried this ... no  luck ...


--Sile

On 11/30/2018 9:31 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Switch out of focus to browse mode first and then fiddle around with them. NVDA is notorious at not updating the states of radio buttons in a table on a web page. I['m pretty sure there was a debate if this was poor page authoring or not about 2 years ago?
I encountered this recently on a health log in account creation site as well. I could not se my gender. It looked like I was both male and female. A medical miracle but on refreshing the page they seemed to  be changed but nvda did not say they had or got them both as  on.

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Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA


Hello


Just wondering if anyone has run into this problem with NVDA. I am trying to select radio buttons that are within a table (basically ranking students on a scale from 1-5 on several criteria, with each criterion being one row of radio buttons.)


It doesn't matter whether I use firefox or chrome, the radio buttons don't seem to change state whether I hit spacebar or return, or whether I am in edit mode or not.


Anyone got any ideas?


--Sile





Re: Logging Level

 

Hi,
Ideally info level should be used unless told by a developer or two to use debug level temporarily. Also, logging levels does not make a difference in responsiveness of a system - other variables such as what programs you're running (both foreground and background), system drivers, visuals and others contribute to performance somewhat.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralph Boersema
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 8:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Logging Level

Here's a quick question. Which logging level should I normally be using? I'm trying to make sure I'm using settings that do not slow down the program or computer.

Warmly,
Ralph


Re: Working with Cheats using NVDA in Project 64

Tyler Wood
 

It's a Nintendo 64 emulator.


Not sure how to help as I have no idea what the staff told the OP to do and haven't gotten a response.

On 2018-11-30 8:25 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I have no idea what the software is, is it a commode 64 emulator grin....
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Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Working with Cheats using NVDA in Project 64


Hi,

Considering we're not entirely sure what said instructions are, it's
pretty much impossible to help.


What have you tried? What is giving you issues?


On 2018-11-29 4:48 p.m., Analis Dannen wrote:
Greetings
This is Analis. I am having an issue using NVDA with Project 64
emulator. I want to use cheats in a specific game, and cannot seem to
figure out what to do. I have followed the instructions PJ64 game me,
and cannot pull it off. Am I doing something wrong? Thank you!




Logging Level

Ralph Boersema
 

Here's a quick question. Which logging level should I normally be using? I'm trying to make sure I'm using settings that do not slow down the program or computer.

Warmly,
Ralph


sharing something fun about NVDA, e-speak and their multi-language capability

Laurie Mehta
 

Hello,
I am just sharing something fun that I've noticed with NVDA and e-speak-- and their multi-language capability.

Recently, one of our children asked us to share a list of some name possibilities that they might choose from for their new baby, expected to be born soon. They gave us certain criteria and asked for names that are Sanskrit-based or Hindi-language along with the English meaning of these names. We provided them a list of names spelled out in English and spelled out in the DevNagri script used for Hindi.
The fun aspect is this:
NVDA, which I have set to use an English voice but also set to use default for any page on my laptop, reads the English spellings of the names as many Indians have experienced English-speakers pronouncing their names. (grin)
But, as NVDA encounters the DevNagri script spellings of the names, it pronounces these names perfectly!

So, for sighted family who are not Hindi-speakers, NVDA has proven to be a helpful aid for them in learning the correct pronunciation of names that they want to learn how to pronounce.
This was fun to discover.

VoiceOver on my iPhone also makes the language switch beautifully, but for me using Windows environment only NVDA with simple e-speak can compare.

Thanks everyone for your great work!
-L.M.


downloading irish tts from www.abair.ie

Josh Kennedy
 

Hi,

 

Is there a problem with chrome and NVDA addons I tried to download the irish tts nvda addon from www.abair.ie English website… and chrome tried opening the nvda addon file as if it were a website and displayed jibberish characters. The only way for me to download the addon was to use Microsoft edge. How do I get google chrome to download this addon?

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Test message

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Yes I go dotty too from time to time.
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Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 7:03 AM
Subject: [nvda] Test message







Re: Reporting bugs

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If its a tone ascending or descending it can be just a progress bar is being displayed. I have noticed some programs do this as they save settings when you close them down.
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 5:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reporting bugs


i am using beta 4.2 and sometimes when i close a program i'd hear a 2
beep tone going down does that mean a nvda error got written to log?


On 11/29/2018 11:00 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
The "ding" sound means that an error has been written to the log.
Often whatever you were trying to do still works as the program tries
a different approach and so it doesn't impact the user at all. The
error sound is in Alpha and Beta versions to alert developers that
there may be something which needs their attention.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 2:49 PM Rosemarie Chavarria
<knitqueen2007@gmail.com <mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, Quentin,

I just downloaded the beta version and the only thing I get is a
ding sound when I hit enter on a program. Other than that, it's
working great for me.

I'm looking forward to the new release.

Rosemarie

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>] *On
Behalf Of *Quentin Christensen
*Sent:* Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:37 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Reporting bugs

Firstly thank you to everyone using the beta version of NVDA! We
really appreciate the help with ensuring everything is running
smoothly before the final version is released!

If you aren't using the beta and would like to try it out, you can
find it at https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2018-4beta2-released/


If you'd like some more info on what a beta is, I did a little
write up in the In-Process blog this week:
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-28th-november-2018/

And otherwise, I just wanted to share a quick note for anyone
reporting issues, particularly those using the beta.


If you post "Problem doing XYZ with Beta2", the implication is
that XYZ worked fine in beta1 or at least with 2018.3.2. If that
is indeed the case, that's great, and really helps narrow down
that we've introduced a bug. If you haven't tried XYZ in any
other version, could you please either state that, or, if you have
the time and inclination, try it out in 2018.3.2, so you can
advise that yes it used to work, or no it was an issue
previously. There's absolutely nothing wrong with reporting an
issue which has always been there, but which you've only just
noticed, but reading some of the recent posts, it can be unclear
as to whether something is definitely a newly introduced bug.

Regards


Quentin.

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sent from my windows 10 pc




Re: Reporting bugs

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Often the ding only occurs with add ons enabled. Might be worth checking that. I have had to turn some off.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@nvaccess.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 5:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reporting bugs


The "ding" sound means that an error has been written to the log. Often
whatever you were trying to do still works as the program tries a different
approach and so it doesn't impact the user at all. The error sound is in
Alpha and Beta versions to alert developers that there may be something
which needs their attention.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 2:49 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi, Quentin,



I just downloaded the beta version and the only thing I get is a ding
sound when I hit enter on a program. Other than that, it's working great
for me.



I'm looking forward to the new release.



Rosemarie







*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Quentin
Christensen
*Sent:* Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:37 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Reporting bugs



Firstly thank you to everyone using the beta version of NVDA! We really
appreciate the help with ensuring everything is running smoothly before the
final version is released!



If you aren't using the beta and would like to try it out, you can find it
at https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2018-4beta2-released/


If you'd like some more info on what a beta is, I did a little write up in
the In-Process blog this week:
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-28th-november-2018/



And otherwise, I just wanted to share a quick note for anyone reporting
issues, particularly those using the beta.


If you post "Problem doing XYZ with Beta2", the implication is that XYZ
worked fine in beta1 or at least with 2018.3.2. If that is indeed the case,
that's great, and really helps narrow down that we've introduced a bug. If
you haven't tried XYZ in any other version, could you please either state
that, or, if you have the time and inclination, try it out in 2018.3.2, so
you can advise that yes it used to work, or no it was an issue previously.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with reporting an issue which has always
been there, but which you've only just noticed, but reading some of the
recent posts, it can be unclear as to whether something is definitely a
newly introduced bug.



Regards


Quentin.



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Training and Support Manager



Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/



www.nvaccess.org

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Twitter: @NVAccess



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Re: Reporting bugs

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If you are referrring to the radio buttons on forms in a table this is a very long standing problem in all browsers and seems to be getting worse at least for me. I suspect its shoddy page design but Jaws seems to cope. Not got a url at the moment as these tend to be in places where you need to have an account or a site dealing with sensitive medical data.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@nvaccess.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 3:37 AM
Subject: [nvda] Reporting bugs


Firstly thank you to everyone using the beta version of NVDA! We really
appreciate the help with ensuring everything is running smoothly before the
final version is released!

If you aren't using the beta and would like to try it out, you can find it
at https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2018-4beta2-released/

If you'd like some more info on what a beta is, I did a little write up in
the In-Process blog this week:
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-28th-november-2018/

And otherwise, I just wanted to share a quick note for anyone reporting
issues, particularly those using the beta.

If you post "Problem doing XYZ with Beta2", the implication is that XYZ
worked fine in beta1 or at least with 2018.3.2. If that is indeed the case,
that's great, and really helps narrow down that we've introduced a bug. If
you haven't tried XYZ in any other version, could you please either state
that, or, if you have the time and inclination, try it out in 2018.3.2, so
you can advise that yes it used to work, or no it was an issue previously.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with reporting an issue which has always
been there, but which you've only just noticed, but reading some of the
recent posts, it can be unclear as to whether something is definitely a
newly introduced bug.

Regards

Quentin.

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Training and Support Manager

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Re: BETA2 DOESN'T READ TABLES IN PDF DOCUMENTS

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You cannot send attaches to the list though.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexandre Alves Toco" <alexandretoco@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 9:15 AM
Subject: RES: [nvda] BETA2 DOESN'T READ TABLES IN PDF DOCUMENTS


Hi Quentin!
I am sending the file attached. It is in portuguese.
I opened it in adobe and nvda didn’t recognize the tables.
So I opened it with Microsoft word and the tables were there.


Enviado do Email para Windows 10

De: Quentin Christensen
Enviado:sexta-feira, 30 de novembro de 2018 01:22
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] BETA2 DOESN'T READ TABLES IN PDF DOCUMENTS

I just tried with a file in Adobe Reader 2019.008.20081 and I can read and navigate the table in this PDF file ok.

It is quite likely the way that the PDF file was made, which you'll likely only know if you were the one who created it.

If you can email it to me, I can have a look, but short of recreating the PDF from the original source, there's probably not a lot to do with an existing file.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 12:19 PM Alexandre Alves Toco <alexandretoco@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, opened a pdf that has a table in adobe reader.
Same problem as 2018.3.2. Nvda doesn’t recognize the table.


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Re: BETA2 DOESN'T READ TABLES IN PDF DOCUMENTS

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This is probably the age old issue of tagging reading order then. I am really peed off with people saying it looks fine to us when I complain about all words running together, being split mid word. a word per line or tables that are scrambled or pages 1 and four then two and three reading in that order. All of these seem to be due to the fact that since no reading order is specified when it changes from normal basic right to left top to bottom all sorts of chaos ensues when the screenreader starts to read from the change.
Bah Humbug.
Reading order should be forced on pdf makers or else.
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From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@nvaccess.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] BETA2 DOESN'T READ TABLES IN PDF DOCUMENTS


I just tried with a file in Adobe Reader 2019.008.20081 and I can read and
navigate the table in this PDF file ok.

It is quite likely the way that the PDF file was made, which you'll likely
only know if you were the one who created it.

If you can email it to me, I can have a look, but short of recreating the
PDF from the original source, there's probably not a lot to do with an
existing file.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 12:19 PM Alexandre Alves Toco <
alexandretoco@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, opened a pdf that has a table in adobe reader.

Same problem as 2018.3.2. Nvda doesn’t recognize the table.





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