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Re: start and End Markers for Selecting Text

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I see a query earlier on this list about copying messages in team talk, it sounds to me like that user also needs to understand the other ways of highlighting and copying. Its the only way to really do it if there is no cursor.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@roadrunner.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] start and End Markers for Selecting Text


HI Group,


I never use the NVDA start/end markers method when in a text or any
editor. I have always checked out the block of text I need to copy
(such as on a web page) counted the number of lines of that text such
as from line 20 to line 74 in a document (which equals 54 lines) held
down the shift key and use the down arrow key and systematically count
1, 2, 3, 10, 20, 30, 54. And then press control + C to copy to
clipboard and paste to wherever.


On 1/29/2019 8:17 AM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Hi all,

Most of the time when I use NVDA+F9 to set a start marker, and
NVDA+F10 twice to copy the text to the clipboard I don't have any
problems.

I'm trying to select a block of text (a chapter of a book) in a plain
text file which is open in Notepad.

I get the error message, "No start marker set," even though NVDA told
me the start marker had been set when I pressed NVDA+F9.

When I coppied the whole book from Notepad into Word and tried
selecting the chapter in the same manner, no problem whatsoever.

Does anybody know why a Notepad file would lose the start marker while
it does not in Word?

As a related question, is it possible to turn off NVDA announcing how
many characters have been selected when more than 500 have using
SHIFT+down arrow, becuase it's not then possible to listen to the
start of the paragraph to tell whether the next chapter has been
reached ... all I hear then is the number of characters that have been
selected.

Thanks,

Giles
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Re: add ons to copy the text on team talk

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Can it be done in screen or object read mode using the markers?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Mendoza" <lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 8:34 AM
Subject: [nvda] add ons to copy the text on team talk


Wondering how you copy a certain text message sent in team talk classic
the reason of asking for this if someone sent me a private message I could not copy the text
Is there a specific add- on would you suggest. Thanks.



Re: Accessibility of Spotify for desktop for the blind users

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

It is a bit vague. Who is the person asking and what relationship do they have with the software. Not wanting to criticise the underlying principal but these things generally work best if coordinated.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Kingett" <kingettr@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility of Spotify for desktop for the blind users


I'll never understand why people don't give details when sending emails. What will you do with the data after this is presented? Take it to Spotify? Who else has access to the data we present and what will the team do with it? Narrow down what parts are not accessible? I'm not filling this out until more detail is given.


Re: start and End Markers for Selecting Text

Giles Turnbull
 

what do you mean by "the Windows method?"

As mentioned in my question, once you past more than 500 characters (I think that's the threshold) NVDA stops speaking any of the text you're selecting and just tells you how many characters you've selected.

I was trying to select the first 2000 words, approximately, which was the first essay in a book of 12 essays.

Not being able to hear the title meant there was no way to know where I wanted to stop.

That left me two options ... I could find the start of the second chapter by searching for its title, then deleting from there to the end, leaving only the first chapter text, or I could add a marker like zzz, paste the whle document into WOrd, and then use the NVDA+F9 at the first marker and then search for zzz and press NVDA+F10 twice to set the end marker and copy the text.

In hindsight, deleting from the second chapter onwards, copying all and then undoing the deletion would have been the less-faffy way of doing it.

But, to answer your question, that is why I use the NVDA method of selecting text if I have a large amount to copy and paste :)

Giles


Re: turning UIA off for office

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I think it will be, not sure about now though. I think you need to talk to a dev as I've seen some chatter about this because Microsoft have not fully implemented UIA as they said they had or something like that. I was reading the new and existing issues the other night.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Governor staten" <govsta@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 7:04 AM
Subject: [nvda] turning UIA off for office


Is this possible to do? I'm running latest version of NVDA alpha with latest
version of everything Office 365, or 2019.








Re: start and End Markers for Selecting Text

Ron Canazzi
 

HI Group,


I  never use the NVDA start/end markers method when in a text or any editor.  I have always checked out the block of text I need to copy (such as on a web page)  counted the number of lines of that text such as from line 20 to line 74 in a document (which equals 54 lines) held down the shift key and use the down arrow key and systematically count 1, 2, 3, 10, 20, 30, 54.  And then press control + C to copy to clipboard and paste to wherever.


On 1/29/2019 8:17 AM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Hi all,

Most of the time when I use NVDA+F9 to set a start marker, and NVDA+F10 twice to copy the text to the clipboard I don't have any problems.

I'm trying to select a block of text (a chapter of a book) in a plain text file which is open in Notepad.

I get the error message, "No start marker set," even though NVDA told me the start marker had been set when I pressed NVDA+F9.

When I coppied the whole book from Notepad into Word and tried selecting the chapter in the same manner, no problem whatsoever.

Does anybody know why a Notepad file would lose the start marker while it does not in Word?

As a related question, is it possible to turn off NVDA announcing how many characters have been selected when more than 500 have using SHIFT+down arrow, becuase it's not then possible to listen to the start of the paragraph to tell whether the next chapter has been reached ... all I hear then is the number of characters that have been selected.

Thanks,

Giles
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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Command for continuous reading not working, request for help

Gene
 

Are you using the laptop keyboard layout?  The command in that layout is NVDA key a.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 7:33 AM
Subject: [nvda] Command for continuous reading not working, request for help

Dear All,

I'm using a laptop with Windows 10 OS but the command for continuous
reading is not working.  I tried caps lock + down arrow as well as
insert + down arrow.
Thanks and regards.


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Re: start and End Markers for Selecting Text

Gene
 

Why don't you use the Windows method where an application cursor is available?  While there is no reason not to use the NVDA method, it is intended for times when there is no application cursor and text can't be selected in that way.  I don't know why you are having a problem in this particular case but if the Windows method works, it doesn't matter.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 7:17 AM
Subject: [nvda] start and End Markers for Selecting Text

Hi all,

Most of the time when I use NVDA+F9 to set a start marker, and NVDA+F10 twice to copy the text to the clipboard I don't have any problems.

I'm trying to select a block of text (a chapter of a book) in a plain text file which is open in Notepad.

I get the error message, "No start marker set," even though NVDA told me the start marker had been set when I pressed NVDA+F9.

When I coppied the whole book from Notepad into Word and tried selecting the chapter in the same manner, no problem whatsoever.

Does anybody know why a Notepad file would lose the start marker while it does not in Word?

As a related question, is it possible to turn off NVDA announcing how many characters have been selected when more than 500 have using SHIFT+down arrow, becuase it's not then possible to listen to the start of the paragraph to tell whether the next chapter has been reached ... all I hear then is the number of characters that have been selected.

Thanks,

Giles


spell check ... how do I see the misspelled word?

Ann Byrne
 

In Office 2016, NVDA reads the options for correcting a misspelling clearly in spell check, but not the word that is misspelled. How do I read the word I am supposed to be correcting????

thx,


Command for continuous reading not working, request for help

Kakarla Nageswaraiah
 

Dear All,

I'm using a laptop with Windows 10 OS but the command for continuous
reading is not working. I tried caps lock + down arrow as well as
insert + down arrow.
Thanks and regards.


--
కాకర్ల నాగేశ్వరయ్య

K. Nageswaraiah


start and End Markers for Selecting Text

Giles Turnbull
 

Hi all,

Most of the time when I use NVDA+F9 to set a start marker, and NVDA+F10 twice to copy the text to the clipboard I don't have any problems.

I'm trying to select a block of text (a chapter of a book) in a plain text file which is open in Notepad.

I get the error message, "No start marker set," even though NVDA told me the start marker had been set when I pressed NVDA+F9.

When I coppied the whole book from Notepad into Word and tried selecting the chapter in the same manner, no problem whatsoever.

Does anybody know why a Notepad file would lose the start marker while it does not in Word?

As a related question, is it possible to turn off NVDA announcing how many characters have been selected when more than 500 have using SHIFT+down arrow, becuase it's not then possible to listen to the start of the paragraph to tell whether the next chapter has been reached ... all I hear then is the number of characters that have been selected.

Thanks,

Giles


Re: Accessibility of Spotify for desktop for the blind users

 

I'll never understand why people don't give details when sending emails. What will you do with the data after this is presented? Take it to Spotify? Who else has access to the data we present and what will the team do with it? Narrow down what parts are not accessible? I'm not filling this out until more detail is given.


Accessibility of Spotify for desktop for the blind users

Marco Oros
 

Formuláre Google
Hi people!
Please, can You fill out this form. Do You know, some features are accessible in Spotify for Windows with NVDA, but some are not. Also, could You send this form to another blind users?
Thank You.
Marco Oros
Accessibility of Spotify for desktop for the blind users
Some features of Spotify for windows are accessible for blind users, but some are not accessible.
Vyplniť formulár
Vytvoriť vlastný formulár Google


add ons to copy the text on team talk

Robert Mendoza
 

Wondering how you copy a certain text message sent in team talk classic
the reason of asking for this if someone sent me a private message I could not copy the text
Is there a specific add- on would you suggest. Thanks.


turning UIA off for office

 

Is this possible to do? I’m running latest version of NVDA alpha with latest version of everything Office 365, or 2019.

 

 


Re: Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda

Quentin Christensen
 

For those interested, if you weren't following the associated GitHub issue, that issue has now been closed as "merged" with the "2019.1" milestone - which means it is in the latest alpha release which you can find here: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/ and all things going well, it should be in 2019.1 when it comes out.

Please do advise of any issues with it.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 10:23 PM Lars Bjørndal <lars@...> wrote:
Thank you. I plan to let the table no-no-comp8.ctb contain only the 256 possible braille patterns whith unique character to each, and put all other characters in the no-no-8dot.utb. So please go on with the change.

Thaks

Lars

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 05:10:56PM +1100, Quentin Christensen wrote:
> I've created the issue: [1]https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/9170
> I simply suggested swapping to the new Braille table, but please advise
> if Joseph's second option of merging the two tables has merit.
>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 4:54 PM Joseph Lee
> <[2]joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
>
>   Hi,
>   Ah, this is similar to Unified English Braille table migration a few
>   years
>   back.
>   There are two options I can think of:
>   1. Replace the old one with the new table (the original suggestion).
>   2. Combine the tables together somehow - that is, merge the old
>   table into
>   the new one, keeping the file name the same.
>   Cheers,
>   Joseph
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: [3]nvda@nvda.groups.io <[4]nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
>   Lars Bjørndal
>   Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 9:35 PM
>   To: [5]nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   Subject: Re: [nvda] Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda
>   Hi, Quentin!
>   You wrote:
>   > Just out of curiosity, why ARE there two Norwegian 8 dot Braille
>   > tables in LibLouis in the first place?  Or have I misread the
>   thread?
>   > (I was going to create the GitHub issue that Joseph suggested, but
>   > wanted to be sure I understood the issue first)
>   The no-no-comp8.ctb, which are used by NVDA today, was created based
>   on the
>   old ANSI character set, and so it lacks many unicode characters,
>   although
>   some very widly used was added after NVDA started to use the table.
>   When the
>   Norwegian library for braille and audio did a big job with all
>   Norwegian
>   tables, they created a table with lots of additions to the computer
>   braille,
>   and put that stuf in a separate file called no-no-8dot.utb.
>   Thanks a lot for creating the issue.
>   Lars
>   > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 2:25 AM Joseph Lee
>   > <[1][6]joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
>   >
>   >   Hi,
>   >   Okay, the next step is asking NVDA people to implement needed
>   >   changes via a
>   >   new GitHub issue.
>   >   Cheers,
>   >   Joseph
>   >   -----Original Message-----
>   >   From: [2][7]nvda@nvda.groups.io <[3][8]nvda@nvda.groups.io> On
>   Behalf Of
>   >   Lars Bjørndal
>   >   Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 4:08 AM
>   >   To: [4][9]nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   >   Subject: Re: [nvda] Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda
>   >   Hello,
>   >   I've now talked to the liblouis team about the change I suggest.
>   >   You'll find
>   >   my post here:
>   >
>   <[5][10]https://www.freelists.org/post/liblouis-liblouisxml/Switch-N
>   orwe
>   >   gian-braill
>   >   e-table-in-NVDA>
>   >   Please tell me if I have to do anything more to get the new
>   braille
>   >   table
>   >   implemented.
>   >   Thanks in advance
>   >   Lars
>   >   On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 09:54:37AM +0100, Lars Bjørndal wrote:
>   >   > Hi, Joseph!
>   >   >
>   >   > Thank you for your quick reply!
>   >   >
>   >   > You wrote:
>   >   >
>   >   > > Does the proposed table have issues of its own? If there are
>   >   more issues
>   >   with the proposed braille table than the one NVDA uses now, I'm
>   >   afraid we
>   >   may need to use the current table.
>   >   >
>   >   > The table that we want to use, includes the table currently in
>   >   use, and
>   >   the «new» table has extra definitions. I've tested the table,
>   and I
>   >   don't
>   >   see any issue.
>   >   >
>   >   > > The hex value indicates unassigned character/braille dot
>   >   patterns.
>   >   >
>   >   > Yes, that's right. And there is lot of undefined chars in the
>   >   currently
>   >   used table.
>   >   >
>   >   > > I advise alerting Liblouis people about this.
>   >   >
>   >   > I'm actively contributing to liblouis. I'm very certain that
>   >   nobody will
>   >   disagree to this change.
>   >   >
>   >   > Thanks in advance - Lars
>   >   >
>   >   > > -----Original Message-----
>   >   > > From: [6][11]nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   <[7][12]nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf
>   >   Of Lars
>   >   > > Bjørndal
>   >   > > Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 12:12 PM
>   >   > > To: [8][13]nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   >   > > Subject: [nvda] Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda
>   >   > >
>   >   > > Hello, list!
>   >   > >
>   >   > > For a long time there has been trouble with the Norwegian 8
>   dot
>   >   computer
>   >   braill table used by nvda:
>   >   > >
>   >   > > - Bullets and othe characters are represented by the typical
>   >   \xxxxx
>   >   > >   garbage.
>   >   > >
>   >   > > In liblouis there is a corresponding table which is an
>   extended
>   >   version
>   >   of the table that are used currently.
>   >   > >
>   >   > > Could you please use the table no-no-8dot.utb instead of
>   >   no-no-comp8.ctb?
>   >   > >
>   >   > > I think the change is as simple as replacing the line:
>   >   > >
>   >   > > addTable("no-no-comp8.ctb", _("Norwegian 8 dot computer
>   >   braille"))
>   >   > >
>   >   > > with:
>   >   > >
>   >   > > addTable("no-no-8dot.utb", _("Norwegian 8 dot computer
>   >   braille"))
>   >   > >
>   >   > > in the file brailleTables.py in the source directory.
>   >   > >
>   >   > > Thanks in advance - Lars
>   >   > >
>   >   > >
>   >   > >
>   >   > >
>   >   > >
>   >   > >
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >
>   > --
>   >
>   > Quentin Christensen
>   > Training and Support Manager
>   > Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now
>   available:
>   > [9][14]http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ [10][15]www.nvaccess.org
>   > Facebook: [11][16]http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>   > Twitter: @NVAccess
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > References
>   >
>   > 1. mailto:[17]joseph.lee22590@...
>   > 2. mailto:[18]nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   > 3. mailto:[19]nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   > 4. mailto:[20]nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   > 5.
>   >
>   [21]https://www.freelists.org/post/liblouis-liblouisxml/Switch-Norwe
>   gian-b
>   > raille-table-in-NVDA
>   > 6. mailto:[22]nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   > 7. mailto:[23]nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   > 8. mailto:[24]nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   > 9. [25]http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>   >   10. [26]http://www.nvaccess.org/
>   >   11. [27]http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>   >   12. [28]https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/54081
>   >   13. mailto:[29]nvda@nvda.groups.io?subject=Re: Re: [nvda]
>   Norwegian 8 dot
>   braille table used by nvda
>   >   14. mailto:[30]quentin@...?subject=Private: Re: Re:
>   [nvda]
>   Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda
>   >   15. [31]https://groups.io/mt/28955974/1633232
>   >   16. [32]https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/post
>   >   17. [33]http://www.nvaccess.org/
>   >   18. [34]http://www.nvaccess.org/donate
>   >   19. [35]http://addons.nvda-project.org/
>   >   20. [36]http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8601265515
>   >   21. [37]http://skypetalking.googlecode.com/
>   >   22. [38]https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/editsub/1633232
>   >   23. mailto:[39]nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io
>   >   24. [40]https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/leave/defanged
>
> --
>
> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
> Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification
> now available: [41]http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
> [42]www.nvaccess.org
> Facebook: [43]http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>
>
>
> References
>
> 1. https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/9170
> 2. mailto:joseph.lee22590@...
> 3. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
> 4. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
> 5. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
> 6. mailto:joseph.lee22590@...
> 7. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
> 8. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
> 9. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   10. https://www.freelists.org/post/liblouis-liblouisxml/Switch-Norwe
>   11. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   12. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   13. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   14. http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>   15. http://www.nvaccess.org/
>   16. http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>   17. mailto:joseph.lee22590@...
>   18. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   19. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   20. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   21. https://www.freelists.org/post/liblouis-liblouisxml/Switch-Norwegian-b
>   22. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   23. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   24. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   25. http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>   26. http://www.nvaccess.org/
>   27. http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>   28. https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/54081
>   29. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   30. mailto:quentin@...
>   31. https://groups.io/mt/28955974/1633232
>   32. https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/post
>   33. http://www.nvaccess.org/
>   34. http://www.nvaccess.org/donate
>   35. http://addons.nvda-project.org/
>   36. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8601265515
>   37. http://skypetalking.googlecode.com/
>   38. https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/editsub/1633232
>   39. mailto:nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io
>   40. https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/leave/defanged
>   41. http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>   42. http://www.nvaccess.org/
>   43. http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>   44. https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/54094
>   45. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io?subject=Re: Re: [nvda] Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda
>   46. mailto:quentin@...?subject=Private: Re: Re: [nvda] Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda
>   47. https://groups.io/mt/28955974/1633232
>   48. https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/post
>   49. http://www.nvaccess.org/
>   50. http://www.nvaccess.org/donate
>   51. http://addons.nvda-project.org/
>   52. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8601265515
>   53. http://skypetalking.googlecode.com/
>   54. https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/editsub/1633232
>   55. mailto:nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io
>   56. https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/leave/defanged





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Re: Speaker pops.

MAX <max@...>
 

Tonight when I turned on my computer I received another windows update.
The pops are gone. I guess MS heard it from users'


73 (Regards).

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Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 8:25 PM
To: NVDA <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Speaker pops.

Last night I received a large update to windows. I suppose other windows
users' did as well. Ever since I am hearing fairly loud pops in my
speakers every few minutes. So far it doesn't seem to be related to
anything I am doing but time and experience may reveal something. I wonder
if anyone else is also hearing pops. I'm going to post this same question
on a sighted list to figure out if it is screen reader related.

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Re: NVDA and Excel

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Ralf,

Re your points:
1) There's always going to be differences of opinion around what information should get read first in any situation.  Our rationale for reading the contents before the cell header or coordinates is that if you press right arrow or tab, you can predict that the focus will move from A1 to B1 to C1 etc, and if you are familiar with the spreadsheet, you may know the order of the columns.  What you won't necessarily know, and the most important piece of information about that cell, is the contents.  Some of the work which has been done recently has streamlined some internal processes, so it may be possible to add the ability to re-order speech in future.

2) What kind of dropdown lists are you using?  I just created one using "Data validation", and it identifies (as a submenu), and when navigating through the items (press alt+down arrow to open), it reads each for me.  I'm using NVDA 2018.4.1 and Excel / Office 365 Version: 16.0.11126.20200 

3) This is a known issue: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6065  I'll chase up where it's at.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 4:06 AM Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> wrote:

Hello,

I don’t have those symptoms with Office 365 and I’m a full time excel worker. From my point of view there are 3 other criterias that gives Excel and NVDA a poor experience.

  1. The way cells are spoken: NVDA speaks first the cell content and at the end the cell coordinates. This is very contra-productive when dealing with long cell contents. The cell content should always be spoken at the end.
  2. Dropdown lists are not accessible and spoken
  3. autoFilter cells are not announced as AutoFilter, so we don’t know if the column has a autoFilter dropdown.

 

Regards,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Morne van der Merwe
Sent: Montag, 28. Januar 2019 16:52
To: info@...
Cc: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Excel

 

Good day,

 

I’m using an Acer laptop with the latest version of NVDA and Windows 10 with Office 2016.

 

NVDA stops talking while I’m working in Excel.  It goes well for a while and suddenly NVDA just stops functioning.  I tried to restart NVDA with no success in an effort to restore speech.  Is there a way to resolve the matter?

 

Kind regards

 

Morné



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Re: NVDA and power points

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Thanks Clare, sounds like this would be something I shouldn't show others until I'm more familiar with it.


Re: NVDA and power points

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Thanks for the information Mike. That's very helpful.