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fast browse mode

Josh Kennedy
 

Hi,

 

I hope fast browse mode becomes a part of NVDA soon.  NVDA 2018.4.1 jumps around a lot on websites and sometimes it is nearly impossible to read even a simple web article.

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Meandering NVDA Miscellany (including that it's alive and well)

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

The people saying this were saying if it was going to keep up, you'd
need a professional programmer who would need to be paid...

On 3/02/2019 12:52 pm, Sky Mundell wrote:
I don't want it to die, and I don't think it will die because if it does the community can pick up where they left off, and that is the beauty of an open source product.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 5:41 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Is NVDA really dying? Can I do anything to help?

Hi,


I haven't updated NVDA since 2018.1 due to issues that seemed to crop up
around every release. Now I'm hearing from others in a Skype group I'm a
member of that NVDA has been going downhill since Jamie left the project
and it's going to die outright soon because it can't keep up with
competition.


NVDA has been my screen-reader of choice since I discovered it in late
2011 and I don't want it to be forever lost. I can't donate right now,
and I'm not a programmer, but is there anything I can do to help? This
project has been a faithful friend to me and I want to fight for it in
any way I possibly can.








Re: Meandering NVDA Miscellany (including that it's alive and well)

Sky Mundell
 

I don't want it to die, and I don't think it will die because if it does the community can pick up where they left off, and that is the beauty of an open source product.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 5:41 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Is NVDA really dying? Can I do anything to help?

Hi,


I haven't updated NVDA since 2018.1 due to issues that seemed to crop up
around every release. Now I'm hearing from others in a Skype group I'm a
member of that NVDA has been going downhill since Jamie left the project
and it's going to die outright soon because it can't keep up with
competition.


NVDA has been my screen-reader of choice since I discovered it in late
2011 and I don't want it to be forever lost. I can't donate right now,
and I'm not a programmer, but is there anything I can do to help? This
project has been a faithful friend to me and I want to fight for it in
any way I possibly can.


Meandering NVDA Miscellany (including that it's alive and well)

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

Hi,


I haven't updated NVDA since 2018.1 due to issues that seemed to crop up
around every release. Now I'm hearing from others in a Skype group I'm a
member of that NVDA has been going downhill since Jamie left the project
and it's going to die outright soon because it can't keep up with
competition.


NVDA has been my screen-reader of choice since I discovered it in late
2011 and I don't want it to be forever lost. I can't donate right now,
and I'm not a programmer, but is there anything I can do to help? This
project has been a faithful friend to me and I want to fight for it in
any way I possibly can.


Re: Latest download?

Sarah k Alawami
 

I believe ninite has the updated version, or did as of last ear.

Take care

On 2 Feb 2019, at 14:33, Kliph via Groups.Io wrote:

Ok, about to do a clean install of windows, looking for the latest update of NVDA so I can install from launch once all updates and drivers are done installing. Thanks.



Re: NVDA Phantom Windows At Start Up

Sarah k Alawami
 

I believe I get this as well. I get "please eter the password for " etc etc etc. And an edit field I can't type into. I hit windows d and it goes away. Odd?

Take care

On 2 Feb 2019, at 14:17, Annette Moore wrote:

Ron, this happens to me as well. It's usually always Team viewer, but I've seen other phantom windows come up as well. I never mentioned it though because I am able to get out of it by hitting Windows+d or Windows+m for the desktop. Come to think of it, though, I don't remember this happening when I used system Access, but it could have. not saying it didn't, I just don't remember. I'm glad the windows do go away, though.

Annette

On 2/2/2019 7:19 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,


One of the things that really used to bother me when I used JAWS from the nineties through 2011 was that at start up, there were phantom windows being displayed at start up from almost everything that ran in the system tray.  Such programs as Avast anti virus, Drop Box, action center or in the old days network neighborhood and even JAWS itself were involved.  As thing were loading, you would be presented with windows identified as being part of the aforementioned programs but when you tried navigating to them, the windows were blank and contained nothing.


When I first started using NVDA, this never happened.  Sometime in the 2018 cycle (I can't quite remember when) this began happening more and more with NVDA.  Now when I boot the system, Drop Box, Action Center, one drive, volume panel (from Realtech sound manager) and one or two others show up with a blank window. Moving the cursor or mouse or moving to the desktop and back clears up the issue but this is somewhat annoying--just as it used to be with JAWS.


I am wondering if this is causing some of the confusion with some people reporting blank windows for such programs as Drop Box that are being reported on this list.  It would be nice if this issue could be addressed in future releases.



Re: Latest download?

 

No matter when, the latest version is always downloadable from:  https://www.nvaccess.org/download/
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Latest download?

Kliph <kliphnsharrie.sr@...>
 

Ok, about to do a clean install of windows, looking for the latest update of NVDA so I can install from launch once all updates and drivers are done installing. Thanks.


Re: NVDA Phantom Windows At Start Up

Annette Moore
 

Ron, this happens to me as well. It's usually always Team viewer, but I've seen other phantom windows come up as well. I never mentioned it though because I am able to get out of it by hitting Windows+d or Windows+m for the desktop. Come to think of it, though, I don't remember this happening when I used system Access, but it could have. not saying it didn't, I just don't remember. I'm glad the windows do go away, though.

Annette

On 2/2/2019 7:19 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,


One of the things that really used to bother me when I used JAWS from the nineties through 2011 was that at start up, there were phantom windows being displayed at start up from almost everything that ran in the system tray.  Such programs as Avast anti virus, Drop Box, action center or in the old days network neighborhood and even JAWS itself were involved.  As thing were loading, you would be presented with windows identified as being part of the aforementioned programs but when you tried navigating to them, the windows were blank and contained nothing.


When I first started using NVDA, this never happened.  Sometime in the 2018 cycle (I can't quite remember when) this began happening more and more with NVDA.  Now when I boot the system, Drop Box, Action Center, one drive, volume panel (from Realtech sound manager) and one or two others show up with a blank window. Moving the cursor or mouse or moving to the desktop and back clears up the issue but this is somewhat annoying--just as it used to be with JAWS.


I am wondering if this is causing some of the confusion with some people reporting blank windows for such programs as Drop Box that are being reported on this list.  It would be nice if this issue could be addressed in future releases.



Re: Finding the comment's section on a YouTube video

Felix G.
 

Hi,
I've been looking for a good way to do this for months. Thanks a lot
for pointing it out!
Best,
Felix

Am Sa., 2. Feb. 2019 um 22:39 Uhr schrieb marcio via Groups.Io
<marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io>:


Man it worked like a charm! I'm, to say the least, surprised that I never have thought about trying this.
Many many thanks for the tip!
Btw, I'm using Firefox, so if there's someone with the same problem and using the same browser, just try this because it really works.

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 02/02/2019 19:25, Marcio escreveu:

Thanks, I'll try it :)

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 02/02/2019 18:55, Tony Malykh escreveu:

It seems like the comments section is hidden by default, and it is only loaded when you scroll the page to a certain place.

Try this way:

1. Search for "show more" button using NVDA+Control+F.

2. Wait there for a second or two - the comments section is loading.

3. Press down arrow.You will be on Comments heading. Works reliably for me in Chrome.

--Tony


On 2/1/2019 4:07 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

Hello folks,
Does anyone know how one can find, perhaps more easily than I've been doing, the comments' section on a YouTube video?
It seems like a bit of a random thing when and where it will appear the way I've doing to reach out it. Using NVDA, I've had to press N much more times than I actually would like to do just to reach the video's description and sometimes it'll be just after the description, sometimes it won't because it simply doesn't appear on any place at all.
So does anyone have any suggestion about it?

P.S.: If it's an offtopic, let me apologize. Just thought, since it has something to do with NVDA, well...

Thanks in advance :)

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Re: Finding the comment's section on a YouTube video

 

Man it worked like a charm! I'm, to say the least, surprised that I never have thought about trying this.
Many many thanks for the tip!
Btw, I'm using Firefox, so if there's someone with the same problem and using the same browser, just try this because it really works.

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 02/02/2019 19:25, Marcio escreveu:

Thanks, I'll try it :)

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 02/02/2019 18:55, Tony Malykh escreveu:

It seems like the comments section is hidden by default, and it is only loaded when you scroll the page to a certain place.

Try this way:

1. Search for "show more" button using NVDA+Control+F.

2. Wait there for a second or two - the comments section is loading.

3. Press down arrow.You will be on Comments heading. Works reliably for me in Chrome.

--Tony


On 2/1/2019 4:07 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello folks,
Does anyone know how one can find, perhaps more easily than I've been doing, the comments' section on a YouTube video?
It seems like a bit of a random thing when and where it will appear the way I've doing to reach out it. Using NVDA, I've had to press N much more times than I actually would like to do just to reach the video's description and sometimes it'll be just after the description, sometimes it won't because it simply doesn't appear on any place at all.
So does anyone have any suggestion about it?

P.S.: If it's an offtopic, let me apologize. Just thought, since it has something to do with NVDA, well...

Thanks in advance :)

--

Cheers,
Marcio
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Re: Finding the comment's section on a YouTube video

 

Hi,
I've never tried it but surely will do right now.
Thanks :)

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 02/02/2019 09:56, Chris Mullins escreveu:

Hi

Have you tried the following for viewing youtube?  It’s an interface to YouTube designed for visually impaired and it doesn’t have the ads.  You get a search box for your keywords, a combo boxc where you select the number of results per page, another combo box where you select the media you are searching for e.g videos, and a search button.  Use the h key to scroll through the results, press tab to move focus to the one you want to play and press enter.  Another window opens for the specific video, switch to browse mode then use the h key to navigate to “Video Information” where you will find details of the video or use the b key to move to the control buttons.

 

http://www.povidi.com/YourTube/

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: 2 February 2019 00:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Finding the comment's section on a YouTube video

 

Hello folks,
Does anyone know how one can find, perhaps more easily than I've been doing, the comments' section on a YouTube video?
It seems like a bit of a random thing when and where it will appear the way I've doing to reach out it. Using NVDA, I've had to press N much more times than I actually would like to do just to reach the video's description and sometimes it'll be just after the description, sometimes it won't because it simply doesn't appear on any place at all.
So does anyone have any suggestion about it?

P.S.: If it's an offtopic, let me apologize. Just thought, since it has something to do with NVDA, well...

Thanks in advance :)

--

Cheers,
Marcio
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Re: Finding the comment's section on a YouTube video

 

Thanks, I'll try it :)

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 02/02/2019 18:55, Tony Malykh escreveu:

It seems like the comments section is hidden by default, and it is only loaded when you scroll the page to a certain place.

Try this way:

1. Search for "show more" button using NVDA+Control+F.

2. Wait there for a second or two - the comments section is loading.

3. Press down arrow.You will be on Comments heading. Works reliably for me in Chrome.

--Tony


On 2/1/2019 4:07 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello folks,
Does anyone know how one can find, perhaps more easily than I've been doing, the comments' section on a YouTube video?
It seems like a bit of a random thing when and where it will appear the way I've doing to reach out it. Using NVDA, I've had to press N much more times than I actually would like to do just to reach the video's description and sometimes it'll be just after the description, sometimes it won't because it simply doesn't appear on any place at all.
So does anyone have any suggestion about it?

P.S.: If it's an offtopic, let me apologize. Just thought, since it has something to do with NVDA, well...

Thanks in advance :)

--

Cheers,
Marcio
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Re: Finding the comment's section on a YouTube video

Tony Malykh
 

It seems like the comments section is hidden by default, and it is only loaded when you scroll the page to a certain place.

Try this way:

1. Search for "show more" button using NVDA+Control+F.

2. Wait there for a second or two - the comments section is loading.

3. Press down arrow.You will be on Comments heading. Works reliably for me in Chrome.

--Tony


On 2/1/2019 4:07 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello folks,
Does anyone know how one can find, perhaps more easily than I've been doing, the comments' section on a YouTube video?
It seems like a bit of a random thing when and where it will appear the way I've doing to reach out it. Using NVDA, I've had to press N much more times than I actually would like to do just to reach the video's description and sometimes it'll be just after the description, sometimes it won't because it simply doesn't appear on any place at all.
So does anyone have any suggestion about it?

P.S.: If it's an offtopic, let me apologize. Just thought, since it has something to do with NVDA, well...

Thanks in advance :)

--

Cheers,
Marcio
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Re: turning off Back Stage View in Office 365

Sarah k Alawami
 

Try searching the archives of this list. If that fails I'm ' sure someone can repost for you.

On 2 Feb 2019, at 7:36, Brad Snyder wrote:

A few days ago, someone posted instructions on how to turn off “Back Stage View” in Office 365.
Apparently, I deleted the post before I could implement the change.  Could those instructions be reposted.

thanks much.

- Brad -





Re: turning off Back Stage View in Office 365

 

See a post I made in 2017:  https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/25346

The group archive can be found at:  https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topics  and there's a Search button right on the page.
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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


turning off Back Stage View in Office 365

Brad Snyder
 

A few days ago, someone posted instructions on how to turn off “Back Stage View” in Office 365.
Apparently, I deleted the post before I could implement the change.  Could those instructions be reposted.

thanks much.

- Brad -





Re: Addon updater

 

Hi,
If I understand you right, you'd like me to produce a version of Add-on Updater compatible with older stable releases with a constraint that it won't check for updated version of itself unless NVDA itself is updated. In theory this is possible, but in practice, it defeats the purpose of Add-on Updater. First, I don't have any Windows XP machine at all to test this idea. Second, you need a base version for Add-on Updater, which must be updated from time to time so users will be notified that a newer NVDA version must be used (which means Add-on Updater needs to update itself, too, which is direct contradiction to what you are asking, I think).
Given NV Access's policy on Windows XP, coupled with impending switch to Python 3 and other changes here and there (and also because Add-on Updater relies on newer techniques), I'd like to kindly turn down this request. Also, within 30 days after release of NVDA 2019.1, I'll drop support for 2018.4 to make the add-on code simpler and to align with the direction NVDA is going with new add-on compatibility approach.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 1:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Addon updater

Joseph, if I might suggest something. For versions of nvda before the last stable ones, maybe you could engineer an add on updater which will not update itself until nvda itself updates but does allow checking of other addons for updates. That way all of this missing add on update in the tools menu is avoided.
I imagine the people still on the old nvda are folks who are waiting for admins to do the update or something like that.
Also some seem to prefer the earlier version.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2019 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Addon updater


Hi,
This is the reason why I told everyone yesterday that users should install
Add-on Updater 19.02.1A manually.
Speaking of Add-on Updater: it looks like I need to push another mandatory
update to this add-on next week. The current solution I wrote as part of
19.02.1A is a temporary one that isn't compatible with Python 3 version of
NVDA. The upcoming 19.02.2 will make sure Add-on Updater is both backward
and forward compatible.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 8:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Addon updater

It tells me that Addon updater version is not compatible with my version of
NVDA. Says I need NVDA 2.0.
I am running NVDA 2018.4.1.

On 2/1/2019 9:09 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Fixed in Add-on Updater 19.02.1A.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan
Milam
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 7:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Addon updater

Same here.

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 9:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Addon updater

Running latest released version of NVDA not alpha. Get a update notice to
update the addon update addon. If I say ok to update I get a message that
the addon is not compatible with my version of NVDA. Get this addon
update notice every time I start NVDA.











NVDA Phantom Windows At Start Up

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


One of the things that really used to bother me when I used JAWS from the nineties through 2011 was that at start up, there were phantom windows being displayed at start up from almost everything that ran in the system tray.  Such programs as Avast anti virus, Drop Box, action center or in the old days network neighborhood and even JAWS itself were involved.  As thing were loading, you would be presented with windows identified as being part of the aforementioned programs but when you tried navigating to them, the windows were blank and contained nothing.


When I first started using NVDA, this never happened.  Sometime in the 2018 cycle (I can't quite remember when) this began happening more and more with NVDA.  Now when I boot the system, Drop Box, Action Center, one drive, volume panel (from Realtech sound manager) and one or two others show up with a blank window. Moving the cursor or mouse or moving to the desktop and back clears up the issue but this is somewhat annoying--just as it used to be with JAWS.


I am wondering if this is causing some of the confusion with some people reporting blank windows for such programs as Drop Box that are being reported on this list.  It would be nice if this issue could be addressed in future releases.



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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Finding the comment's section on a YouTube video

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

Have you tried the following for viewing youtube?  It’s an interface to YouTube designed for visually impaired and it doesn’t have the ads.  You get a search box for your keywords, a combo boxc where you select the number of results per page, another combo box where you select the media you are searching for e.g videos, and a search button.  Use the h key to scroll through the results, press tab to move focus to the one you want to play and press enter.  Another window opens for the specific video, switch to browse mode then use the h key to navigate to “Video Information” where you will find details of the video or use the b key to move to the control buttons.

 

http://www.povidi.com/YourTube/

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: 2 February 2019 00:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Finding the comment's section on a YouTube video

 

Hello folks,
Does anyone know how one can find, perhaps more easily than I've been doing, the comments' section on a YouTube video?
It seems like a bit of a random thing when and where it will appear the way I've doing to reach out it. Using NVDA, I've had to press N much more times than I actually would like to do just to reach the video's description and sometimes it'll be just after the description, sometimes it won't because it simply doesn't appear on any place at all.
So does anyone have any suggestion about it?

P.S.: If it's an offtopic, let me apologize. Just thought, since it has something to do with NVDA, well...

Thanks in advance :)

--

Cheers,
Marcio
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