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Re: mariana islands

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

For me, this happens when using the oneCore voices and browsing through folders of .mp3 files.  The odd thing is that it doesn't happen with every file.


George

On 12/30/2018 8:26 AM, Brice Mijares wrote:
Why does NVDA echo Mariana Islands at times while going through a list of MP3's?
Like
11 Country road.mp3
Hopefully I'm not the only one hearing this!


Re: NVDA going silent.

MAX <max@...>
 

We got sidetracked on chrome and lost the original thread.  We established that nvda is still running but its voice has been silenced.  I’m more interested in how to quickly restore speech as opposed to what’s causing it.  However, if any of the developers want me to run an experiment to determine the cause I am willing to do it.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 11:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

Nothing finds everything.  Others can recommend other programs you might try.  If you really want or need to go deeply into the question, a site like bleeping computers, where a lot of geeks hang out and help users, would give you help.  You may need sighted help to do some of what they discuss.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 9:01 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

I would have thought that malware bytes would have found anything.  I don’t know what else to do.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 1:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

This isn't  Google and it isn't Chrome.  It is adware on your machine.  Others, including me, have said that we don't get such popups.  Chrome is by far the most popular Windows browser at present.  it wouldn't be if it subjected people to what you are experiencing.

 

It doesn't matter where the popups say they come from.  Maybe the adware is trying to make the popups appear as though they come from Chrome to try to make them appear more credible or make people think they are being shown by the browser.  They are definitely not coming from Chrome.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 12:45 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

I pulled the Firefox shortcut out of my rarely used folder and put it on the desktop.  The menus were there as was the quick start favorites bar.  I set it as default browser, and my home page.  That was easier than chrome or MS edge.  I haven’t seen any popups yet.  I’ll try it for a few days and see how it goes.  NVDA seems a bit more responsive than with other browsers but time will tell.   I wonder if google knows they are driving users away with their popups.  Each popup announced that it was from google chrome.  I don’t have popups from any other program.  I think the malware on my computer is google chrome.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 1:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

What you are describing regarding popups are all signs of adware.  Chrome has its own popup blocker and adware can show popups anyway.  If you install a popup blocker, adware can show popups. 

 

Firefox has menus.  If you pressed alt and no menus came up, the browser was set to full screen.  If a program has a full screen setting and its on, you can't bring up menus because the entire screen is used for the displayed content.  Sighted people wouldn't see menus either.  To put the program back to normal, press f11.  That is the standard key in Windows programs to toggle between full screen on and off.  Full screen isn't the same as maximizing a program.  You can maximize a program with no problems. 

 

As far as a bookmark bar is concerned, if you mean the one in Chrome you can get to with f6, there isn't one in Firefox.  But Firefox works very well with bookmarks.  Use control b and you will bring up a bookmarks menu very similar to that in internet Explorer.  There is also a very good search bookmarks feature in firefox.  I won't explain that in this message but I will if you want to try it. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 11:44 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

Yes, we had a discussion about popups in Chrome and I set the option to no popups with no results.  I also installed a popup blocker but it didn’t do anything to solve the problem.  The last time I tried Firefox I couldn’t find any kind of menu navigation.  Without that I couldn’t set it as the default browser or import bookmarks.  Also I don’t think it has a favorites bar which I use all the time. 

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 8:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

I seem to recall we may have discussed popups with Chrome before.  I think its adware.  I don't recall hearing about what you are discussing in Chrome in cases other than adware.

 

If you don't want to investigate that problem, then it would be a good good idea to start using Firefox.  If you can use Internet Explorer and if it works properly on the sites you want to use, you may want to just use it for now, but over time, Internet Explorer will work with increasingly fewer sites.

 

Gene

----- Original message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 7:56 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

It happened just now.  When I pressed nvda key + N the menu came up.  I arrowed around the menu and speech came back on.  So there is another way to restore it.  The two programs I had running were outlook 2013 and internet explorer.  Chrome has become unusable because of the popups Which are greater in number every time I open it.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 10:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

We don't know if there is a problem with speech or if the program stops running.  You can't assume that just because speech stops, that the problem is with speech.  When this happens, run Narrator or another screen-reader.  Then try opening the NVDA menu.  Does the menu open?  If so, the problem has something to do with speech while NVDA is running.  It may be a synthesizer problem or it may be an NVDA problem.  If the menu doesn't open, then NVDA is no longer running which is an entirely different problem. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 10:00 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

I don't understand what you mean by sleep mode.  I turned off character speak using nvda key 2 but it didn't keep it from going into its silent mode.  It's in it right now.  I hope this message will make sense as I am not getting any beeping feedback.  Or reading of lines as I up and down arrow.


73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

Actually if you toggle it to sleep mode and turn off typing letters its actually able to work for you if you run long passages as long as you don't hit control



On 12/26/2018 2:47 PM, MAX wrote:
> I got a wry smile out of the recent thread from people who wanted to
> keep NVDA from speaking.  It does that all the time to me although I
> don't want it too. I have found that if I am running two or more
> programs in windows
> 10 that at some random time after starting the second program that
> NVDA will go silent.  No amount of tabbing or arrowing will cure its case of
> laryngitis.   So far the only way I can restore its voice is to press
> control alt N to restart it.  Is there a quicker way to start it
> talking again?
>
>
> 73 (Regards).
>
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>
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Re: NVDA going silent.

MAX <max@...>
 

Last night I did a search for add ware programs and found to my surprise that malware bytes offers an add ware eliminator.  It appears not to be included in the main malware program.  So I downloaded it and ran it.  It found several items and removed them.  Then I opened Chrome.  The first thing I heard was New notification from google chrome.  Drink a cup of this before going to bed and watch the pounds melt away.  Someone is still trying to sell me snake oil and they are immune to add ware removers.  I’m still happy with firefox and as long as I am I’m not going to waste anymore effort on chrome.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 11:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

Nothing finds everything.  Others can recommend other programs you might try.  If you really want or need to go deeply into the question, a site like bleeping computers, where a lot of geeks hang out and help users, would give you help.  You may need sighted help to do some of what they discuss.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 9:01 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

I would have thought that malware bytes would have found anything.  I don’t know what else to do.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 1:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

This isn't  Google and it isn't Chrome.  It is adware on your machine.  Others, including me, have said that we don't get such popups.  Chrome is by far the most popular Windows browser at present.  it wouldn't be if it subjected people to what you are experiencing.

 

It doesn't matter where the popups say they come from.  Maybe the adware is trying to make the popups appear as though they come from Chrome to try to make them appear more credible or make people think they are being shown by the browser.  They are definitely not coming from Chrome.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 12:45 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

I pulled the Firefox shortcut out of my rarely used folder and put it on the desktop.  The menus were there as was the quick start favorites bar.  I set it as default browser, and my home page.  That was easier than chrome or MS edge.  I haven’t seen any popups yet.  I’ll try it for a few days and see how it goes.  NVDA seems a bit more responsive than with other browsers but time will tell.   I wonder if google knows they are driving users away with their popups.  Each popup announced that it was from google chrome.  I don’t have popups from any other program.  I think the malware on my computer is google chrome.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 1:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

What you are describing regarding popups are all signs of adware.  Chrome has its own popup blocker and adware can show popups anyway.  If you install a popup blocker, adware can show popups. 

 

Firefox has menus.  If you pressed alt and no menus came up, the browser was set to full screen.  If a program has a full screen setting and its on, you can't bring up menus because the entire screen is used for the displayed content.  Sighted people wouldn't see menus either.  To put the program back to normal, press f11.  That is the standard key in Windows programs to toggle between full screen on and off.  Full screen isn't the same as maximizing a program.  You can maximize a program with no problems. 

 

As far as a bookmark bar is concerned, if you mean the one in Chrome you can get to with f6, there isn't one in Firefox.  But Firefox works very well with bookmarks.  Use control b and you will bring up a bookmarks menu very similar to that in internet Explorer.  There is also a very good search bookmarks feature in firefox.  I won't explain that in this message but I will if you want to try it. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 11:44 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

Yes, we had a discussion about popups in Chrome and I set the option to no popups with no results.  I also installed a popup blocker but it didn’t do anything to solve the problem.  The last time I tried Firefox I couldn’t find any kind of menu navigation.  Without that I couldn’t set it as the default browser or import bookmarks.  Also I don’t think it has a favorites bar which I use all the time. 

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 8:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

I seem to recall we may have discussed popups with Chrome before.  I think its adware.  I don't recall hearing about what you are discussing in Chrome in cases other than adware.

 

If you don't want to investigate that problem, then it would be a good good idea to start using Firefox.  If you can use Internet Explorer and if it works properly on the sites you want to use, you may want to just use it for now, but over time, Internet Explorer will work with increasingly fewer sites.

 

Gene

----- Original message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 7:56 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

It happened just now.  When I pressed nvda key + N the menu came up.  I arrowed around the menu and speech came back on.  So there is another way to restore it.  The two programs I had running were outlook 2013 and internet explorer.  Chrome has become unusable because of the popups Which are greater in number every time I open it.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 10:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

We don't know if there is a problem with speech or if the program stops running.  You can't assume that just because speech stops, that the problem is with speech.  When this happens, run Narrator or another screen-reader.  Then try opening the NVDA menu.  Does the menu open?  If so, the problem has something to do with speech while NVDA is running.  It may be a synthesizer problem or it may be an NVDA problem.  If the menu doesn't open, then NVDA is no longer running which is an entirely different problem. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 10:00 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

I don't understand what you mean by sleep mode.  I turned off character speak using nvda key 2 but it didn't keep it from going into its silent mode.  It's in it right now.  I hope this message will make sense as I am not getting any beeping feedback.  Or reading of lines as I up and down arrow.


73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

Actually if you toggle it to sleep mode and turn off typing letters its actually able to work for you if you run long passages as long as you don't hit control



On 12/26/2018 2:47 PM, MAX wrote:
> I got a wry smile out of the recent thread from people who wanted to
> keep NVDA from speaking.  It does that all the time to me although I
> don't want it too. I have found that if I am running two or more
> programs in windows
> 10 that at some random time after starting the second program that
> NVDA will go silent.  No amount of tabbing or arrowing will cure its case of
> laryngitis.   So far the only way I can restore its voice is to press
> control alt N to restart it.  Is there a quicker way to start it
> talking again?
>
>
> 73 (Regards).
>
> Max.  K 4 O DS.
>
> I've Never Lost the Wonder.
>
> Email: max@...
>
> Vacuum Tube  Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/
> Transistor site: http://www.angelfire.com/planet/funwithtransistors/
> Woodworking site:
> http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/Woodworking/wwindex.h
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Re: Installing Windows 10

Chris
 

You usually have to press a key to initiate bootting from the pen drive regardless of the boot sequence

 

 

From: farhan israk
Sent: 30 December 2018 14:37
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Installing Windows 10

 

I want to install Windows 10 in desktop. I have selected pendrive in boot priority of bios. But, when I'm turning on computer it is booting through harddisk and turning on as usual. How to boot by pendrive? I used Rufus to create bootable pendrive and burn iso file.

 


Re: mariana islands

Brice Mijares
 

Yes, I can add, but I just cancelled out.

On 12/30/2018 8:41 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
You may need to add new entries (try pressing Alt+A for add). If that doesn't work, I will need to look at the log and find out what might be happening.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 8:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] mariana islands
Joseph
I went to menu/Preferences/Speech dictionaries/Voice dictionary).
the first one says alt d for dictionary, then alt e to edit. neither of these key combinations work for me. Also tried space bar and enter. Any ideas why? thanks.
On 12/30/2018 6:50 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
This is mostly controlled by the synthesizer in question. You can
actually ask a given synthesizer voice to not interpret things for you
(NVDA menu/Preferences/Speech dictionaries/Voice dictionary).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 6:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] mariana islands

According to Google, the abbreviation for Northern Mariana Islands is mp.
So NVDA is interpreting for you. Ugh!

I wonder if there is a setting to tell it not to interpret abbreviations.
there isn't in JAWS, and I wish there were. I want to make the
interpretation myself, thank you very much. (LOL) At 08:30 AM
12/30/2018, you wrote:
1. Which speech synthesiser are you using?

2. Which language is it set to use?

3. Exactly what does NVDA say when you get it to read the example
line you have quoted - where does "Mariana Islands" appear in the speech output?


Antony.

On Sunday 30 December 2018 at 15:26:39, Brice Mijares wrote:

Why does NVDA echo Mariana Islands at times while going through a
list of MP3's?
Like
11 Country road.mp3
Hopefully I'm not the only one hearing this!
--
A user interface is like a joke.
If you have to explain it, it means it doesn't work.

Please reply to
the
list;
please
*don't* CC me.








Re: mariana islands

 

Hi,
You may need to add new entries (try pressing Alt+A for add). If that doesn't work, I will need to look at the log and find out what might be happening.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 8:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] mariana islands

Joseph
I went to menu/Preferences/Speech dictionaries/Voice dictionary).
the first one says alt d for dictionary, then alt e to edit. neither of these key combinations work for me. Also tried space bar and enter. Any ideas why? thanks.

On 12/30/2018 6:50 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
This is mostly controlled by the synthesizer in question. You can
actually ask a given synthesizer voice to not interpret things for you
(NVDA menu/Preferences/Speech dictionaries/Voice dictionary).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 6:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] mariana islands

According to Google, the abbreviation for Northern Mariana Islands is mp.
So NVDA is interpreting for you. Ugh!

I wonder if there is a setting to tell it not to interpret abbreviations.
there isn't in JAWS, and I wish there were. I want to make the
interpretation myself, thank you very much. (LOL) At 08:30 AM
12/30/2018, you wrote:
1. Which speech synthesiser are you using?

2. Which language is it set to use?

3. Exactly what does NVDA say when you get it to read the example
line you have quoted - where does "Mariana Islands" appear in the speech output?


Antony.

On Sunday 30 December 2018 at 15:26:39, Brice Mijares wrote:

Why does NVDA echo Mariana Islands at times while going through a
list of MP3's?
Like
11 Country road.mp3
Hopefully I'm not the only one hearing this!
--
A user interface is like a joke.
If you have to explain it, it means it doesn't work.

Please reply to
the
list;
please
*don't* CC me.








Re: mariana islands

Brice Mijares
 

Joseph
I went to menu/Preferences/Speech dictionaries/Voice dictionary).
the first one says alt d for dictionary, then alt e to edit. neither of these key combinations work for me. Also tried space bar and enter. Any ideas why? thanks.

On 12/30/2018 6:50 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
This is mostly controlled by the synthesizer in question. You can actually
ask a given synthesizer voice to not interpret things for you (NVDA
menu/Preferences/Speech dictionaries/Voice dictionary).
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 6:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] mariana islands
According to Google, the abbreviation for Northern Mariana Islands is mp.
So NVDA is interpreting for you. Ugh!
I wonder if there is a setting to tell it not to interpret abbreviations.
there isn't in JAWS, and I wish there were. I want to make the
interpretation myself, thank you very much. (LOL) At 08:30 AM 12/30/2018,
you wrote:
1. Which speech synthesiser are you using?

2. Which language is it set to use?

3. Exactly what does NVDA say when you get it to read the example line you
have quoted - where does "Mariana Islands" appear in the speech output?


Antony.

On Sunday 30 December 2018 at 15:26:39, Brice Mijares wrote:

Why does NVDA echo Mariana Islands at times while going through a list
of MP3's?
Like
11 Country road.mp3
Hopefully I'm not the only one hearing this!
--
A user interface is like a joke.
If you have to explain it, it means it doesn't work.

Please reply to the
list;
please
*don't* CC me.


Re: Installing Windows 10

Jeffrey McFarland
 

What type of PC do you have? Different motherboards have different BIOS


On Sun, Dec 30, 2018, 9:37 AM farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@... wrote:

I want to install Windows 10 in desktop. I have selected pendrive in boot priority of bios. But, when I'm turning on computer it is booting through harddisk and turning on as usual. How to boot by pendrive? I used Rufus to create bootable pendrive and burn iso file.


Re: mariana islands

Brice Mijares
 

thanks for the info.

On 12/30/2018 6:46 AM, Ann Byrne wrote:
According to Google, the abbreviation for Northern Mariana Islands is mp.  So NVDA is interpreting for you.  Ugh!
I wonder if there is a setting to tell it not to interpret abbreviations.  there isn't in JAWS, and I wish there were.  I want to make the interpretation myself, thank you very much.  (LOL)
At 08:30 AM 12/30/2018, you wrote:
1. Which speech synthesiser are you using?

2. Which language is it set to use?

3. Exactly what does NVDA say when you get it to read the example line you
have quoted - where does "Mariana Islands" appear in the speech output?


Antony.

On Sunday 30 December 2018 at 15:26:39, Brice Mijares wrote:

Why does NVDA echo Mariana Islands at times while going through a list
of MP3's?
Like
11 Country road.mp3
Hopefully I'm not the only one hearing this!
--
A user interface is like a joke.
If you have to explain it, it means it doesn't work.

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Re: mariana islands

Brice Mijares
 

, micro soft David, english I assume and it's random throughouta list of mp3's. Thanks.

On 12/30/2018 6:30 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
1. Which speech synthesiser are you using?
2. Which language is it set to use?
3. Exactly what does NVDA say when you get it to read the example line you
have quoted - where does "Mariana Islands" appear in the speech output?
Antony.
On Sunday 30 December 2018 at 15:26:39, Brice Mijares wrote:

Why does NVDA echo Mariana Islands at times while going through a list
of MP3's?
Like
11 Country road.mp3
Hopefully I'm not the only one hearing this!


Re: mariana islands

 

Hi,
This is mostly controlled by the synthesizer in question. You can actually
ask a given synthesizer voice to not interpret things for you (NVDA
menu/Preferences/Speech dictionaries/Voice dictionary).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 6:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] mariana islands

According to Google, the abbreviation for Northern Mariana Islands is mp.
So NVDA is interpreting for you. Ugh!

I wonder if there is a setting to tell it not to interpret abbreviations.
there isn't in JAWS, and I wish there were. I want to make the
interpretation myself, thank you very much. (LOL) At 08:30 AM 12/30/2018,
you wrote:
1. Which speech synthesiser are you using?

2. Which language is it set to use?

3. Exactly what does NVDA say when you get it to read the example line you
have quoted - where does "Mariana Islands" appear in the speech output?


Antony.

On Sunday 30 December 2018 at 15:26:39, Brice Mijares wrote:

Why does NVDA echo Mariana Islands at times while going through a list
of MP3's?
Like
11 Country road.mp3
Hopefully I'm not the only one hearing this!
--
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If you have to explain it, it means it doesn't work.

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Re: mariana islands

Ann Byrne
 

According to Google, the abbreviation for Northern Mariana Islands is mp. So NVDA is interpreting for you. Ugh!

I wonder if there is a setting to tell it not to interpret abbreviations. there isn't in JAWS, and I wish there were. I want to make the interpretation myself, thank you very much. (LOL)

At 08:30 AM 12/30/2018, you wrote:
1. Which speech synthesiser are you using?

2. Which language is it set to use?

3. Exactly what does NVDA say when you get it to read the example line you
have quoted - where does "Mariana Islands" appear in the speech output?


Antony.

On Sunday 30 December 2018 at 15:26:39, Brice Mijares wrote:

Why does NVDA echo Mariana Islands at times while going through a list
of MP3's?
Like
11 Country road.mp3
Hopefully I'm not the only one hearing this!
--
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If you have to explain it, it means it doesn't work.

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Installing Windows 10

farhan israk
 

I want to install Windows 10 in desktop. I have selected pendrive in boot priority of bios. But, when I'm turning on computer it is booting through harddisk and turning on as usual. How to boot by pendrive? I used Rufus to create bootable pendrive and burn iso file.


Re: mariana islands

Antony Stone
 

1. Which speech synthesiser are you using?

2. Which language is it set to use?

3. Exactly what does NVDA say when you get it to read the example line you
have quoted - where does "Mariana Islands" appear in the speech output?


Antony.

On Sunday 30 December 2018 at 15:26:39, Brice Mijares wrote:

Why does NVDA echo Mariana Islands at times while going through a list
of MP3's?
Like
11 Country road.mp3
Hopefully I'm not the only one hearing this!
--
A user interface is like a joke.
If you have to explain it, it means it doesn't work.

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.


mariana islands

Brice Mijares
 

Why does NVDA echo Mariana Islands at times while going through a list of MP3's?
Like
11 Country road.mp3
Hopefully I'm not the only one hearing this!


Re: Issues with dropbox.

Gene
 

I wasn't surprised when I saw that it comes back.  You are still set to share the file.  If the person has problems removing the folder from being shared, I can experiment and find the exact procedure, keystroke by keystroke, to do this.  It is a waste of time and effort to pursue other solutions.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues with dropbox.

Not sure, but if the other users of the shared folder update it, it has a
nasty habit of coming back!
 I see dropbox have changed the setting of that pesky delete from all
devices window that opened behind all the others when you deleted a file, so
it assumes delete from all. Thank goodness for that.
 Oh and yes, my two machines bot still do not read any of the dropbox
dialogues.
 This issue has been there ever since Avast infected windows 7.
 It is gone of course but I guess this is collateral damage only a reinstall
of windows will fix so I'll live with it!
 I just need to get a sighted person in if I need to log in or change any
settings.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues with dropbox.


> Why not remove the folder  from the dropbox folder on your hard drive.
> You will then be  removed  rom the share. I've done this for a while and
> it works well.
>
> On 29 Dec 2018, at 16:27, John Isige wrote:
>
>> Well just one issue really, so far.
>>
>>
>> I have a shared folder foo that's not mine, I'm just a member. I want
>> to remove myself from it to free up space. The web tells me to sign
>> into dropbox.com, click files, and click "share" next to the folder
>> name, then there's a dropdown where I can remove myself. I sign into
>> dropbox.com, I click files.
>>
>>
>> I see the folder, but all I see after it is a star button and a "more
>> actions" menu. If I pick "more actions" share does show up there, but
>> if I click on share, I just get a page with the contents of the folder
>> in question. I don't see anything with my name or a way to stop being
>> part of the share. So how do I stop being part of the share? This is
>> on Windows 1809 64-bit, latest Dropbox, I just installed it like 20
>> minutes ago, NVDA 2018.4, latest Firefox.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>




Re: Issues with dropbox.

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

For a while they did have a dodgy picture thing, but I believe its has been removed due to complaints, though somebody did say it asks you to tick a box if you are a human, but the actual words are a graphic. Maybe they are just playing about to see what the best way to stop hackers is. Not looked recently as no need.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 2:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues with dropbox.


Actually, I do this all the time. I just click view, then sign in and
join and I'm in.

Take care

On 29 Dec 2018, at 17:07, Roger Stewart wrote:

The real problem with Dropbox isn't removing a shared folder--it is
trying to add someone who has asked you to share a folder. This used
to be very easy. You would just get an email saying XXX has asked to
share a folder with you on dropbox and there were just 2
options--accept or decline! Nothing could be easier. Now, it is
impossible for a blind person to accept an invite to a new dropbox
folder. This is because they now need you to solve a CAPTCHA to do
this and this is no longer accessible at least, not for now. Is
there a work around for this? They do ask you to check into your
dropbox, but I'm always checked in, so I can't do that.

Roger











On 12/29/2018 6:27 PM, John Isige wrote:
Well just one issue really, so far.


I have a shared folder foo that's not mine, I'm just a member. I want
to remove myself from it to free up space. The web tells me to sign
into dropbox.com, click files, and click "share" next to the folder
name, then there's a dropdown where I can remove myself. I sign into
dropbox.com, I click files.


I see the folder, but all I see after it is a star button and a "more
actions" menu. If I pick "more actions" share does show up there, but
if I click on share, I just get a page with the contents of the
folder in question. I don't see anything with my name or a way to
stop being part of the share. So how do I stop being part of the
share? This is on Windows 1809 64-bit, latest Dropbox, I just
installed it like 20 minutes ago, NVDA 2018.4, latest Firefox.




.



Re: Issues with dropbox.

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Not sure, but if the other users of the shared folder update it, it has a nasty habit of coming back!
I see dropbox have changed the setting of that pesky delete from all devices window that opened behind all the others when you deleted a file, so it assumes delete from all. Thank goodness for that.
Oh and yes, my two machines bot still do not read any of the dropbox dialogues.
This issue has been there ever since Avast infected windows 7.
It is gone of course but I guess this is collateral damage only a reinstall of windows will fix so I'll live with it!
I just need to get a sighted person in if I need to log in or change any settings.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues with dropbox.


Why not remove the folder from the dropbox folder on your hard drive.
You will then be removed rom the share. I've done this for a while and
it works well.

On 29 Dec 2018, at 16:27, John Isige wrote:

Well just one issue really, so far.


I have a shared folder foo that's not mine, I'm just a member. I want
to remove myself from it to free up space. The web tells me to sign
into dropbox.com, click files, and click "share" next to the folder
name, then there's a dropdown where I can remove myself. I sign into
dropbox.com, I click files.


I see the folder, but all I see after it is a star button and a "more
actions" menu. If I pick "more actions" share does show up there, but
if I click on share, I just get a page with the contents of the folder
in question. I don't see anything with my name or a way to stop being
part of the share. So how do I stop being part of the share? This is
on Windows 1809 64-bit, latest Dropbox, I just installed it like 20
minutes ago, NVDA 2018.4, latest Firefox.




Re: weird NVDA problem on my gpd win 2

Darren Harris
 

It’s like a form of rapidfire. It’s like The buttons being pressed multiple times. But it does not behave that way when I do shift and tap. It works perfectly fine. In all other aspects, left shift work is totally fine.

On 30 Dec 2018, at 08:34, Tyler Spivey <tspivey@pcdesk.net> wrote:

There isn't one.
They all work individually, but what happens when you press nvda+left
shift+b?
It should say: shift + nvda + b, all in one string.

Also, are you using the US English keyboard layout in settings?
On 12/30/2018 12:29 AM, Darren Harris via Groups.Io wrote:
So what would be our equivalent? Yes all the keys to work. I have used the keyboard help.
On 30 Dec 2018, at 08:23, Tyler Spivey <tspivey@pcdesk.net> wrote:

English doesn't use an IME, so that doesn't apply here.
As I said earlier, it's your keyboard. To prove this, either try an
external keyboard or input help and make sure all the keys register.
On 12/30/2018 12:14 AM, Darren Harris via Groups.Io wrote:
What mode? I cant find it.


On 30 Dec 2018, at 01:28, 特種兵 <afreettears@gmail.com
<mailto:afreettears@gmail.com>> wrote:


Sorry for my os language is Chinese, so some key word is not correct.
You can try change your right shift key's setting.
1.press windows plus b go to system tray
2.use down arrow key until ime mode
3.press application key came up context menu
4.use down arrow key go to property and hit enter
5.press control plus tab change to processive tab
6.press down arrow key change left shift to right shift setting
7.press tab key and down arrow key change to none
8.use tab key until confirm button and hit enter to save change

thank you for much
Logo Kuo from Taiwan
Darren Harris via Groups.Io 於 2018/12/29 4:24 寫道:

Greetings all,



For Christmas my partner bought me a gpd win 2 which actually I quite
like. it’s a windows 10 machine.



I’ve put the latest NVDA on it. It was a fresh download. I’ve
encountered a weird issue and I don’t quite know what to make of it.
With the NVDA key set to caps lock as there’s no insert key on the
unit, I can only get things like the battery percentages to work by
using the right shift key with NVDA. the left shift key does work
I’ve tested it. I can do capital letters with it I can also do tab
shift tab etc with it so I know the shift key itself is working so
that in itself isn’t the issue. I’ve also tried switching from laptop
to desktop layouts and switching back again it makes no difference.

If anybody has any ideas as to what this could be then I would indeed
be most greatful.







Re: weird NVDA problem on my gpd win 2

Tyler Spivey
 

There isn't one.
They all work individually, but what happens when you press nvda+left
shift+b?
It should say: shift + nvda + b, all in one string.

Also, are you using the US English keyboard layout in settings?

On 12/30/2018 12:29 AM, Darren Harris via Groups.Io wrote:
So what would be our equivalent? Yes all the keys to work. I have used the keyboard help.
On 30 Dec 2018, at 08:23, Tyler Spivey <tspivey@pcdesk.net> wrote:

English doesn't use an IME, so that doesn't apply here.
As I said earlier, it's your keyboard. To prove this, either try an
external keyboard or input help and make sure all the keys register.
On 12/30/2018 12:14 AM, Darren Harris via Groups.Io wrote:
What mode? I cant find it.


On 30 Dec 2018, at 01:28, 特種兵 <afreettears@gmail.com
<mailto:afreettears@gmail.com>> wrote:


Sorry for my os language is Chinese, so some key word is not correct.
You can try change your right shift key's setting.
1.press windows plus b go to system tray
2.use down arrow key until ime mode
3.press application key came up context menu
4.use down arrow key go to property and hit enter
5.press control plus tab change to processive tab
6.press down arrow key change left shift to right shift setting
7.press tab key and down arrow key change to none
8.use tab key until confirm button and hit enter to save change

thank you for much
Logo Kuo from Taiwan
Darren Harris via Groups.Io 於 2018/12/29 4:24 寫道:

Greetings all,



For Christmas my partner bought me a gpd win 2 which actually I quite
like. it’s a windows 10 machine.



I’ve put the latest NVDA on it. It was a fresh download. I’ve
encountered a weird issue and I don’t quite know what to make of it.
With the NVDA key set to caps lock as there’s no insert key on the
unit, I can only get things like the battery percentages to work by
using the right shift key with NVDA. the left shift key does work
I’ve tested it. I can do capital letters with it I can also do tab
shift tab etc with it so I know the shift key itself is working so
that in itself isn’t the issue. I’ve also tried switching from laptop
to desktop layouts and switching back again it makes no difference.

If anybody has any ideas as to what this could be then I would indeed
be most greatful.