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Re: Looking for an accessible CD or DVD database

Desert Moon
 

Hello Rick,

Here is a list of four free music organizers:

https://www.lifewire.com/free-music-management-tools-for-organizing-your-mp3s-2438774

The first software has received positive reviews from other sites.

I have not used any of the organizers, and thus unable to comment on their accessibility. 

--
Desert


Patreon accessibility feedback?

 

This has been really hard work in the making, but Patreon has finally agreed to do structured negotiations with me. I'm not sure what I can and can't talk about so I'll just leave it at that. Anyway, I've made my own list for later consulting, but does anybody else have any accessibility enhancements, code wise especially, think they should make? I'm supposed to be presenting this in 2019. And I want to make sure I synthesize it all into a good presentation. I deserve coffee. LOL! Anyway, reply to me off list or at my website, below. Oh, and, I've made some accessibility enhancements to my own website! Anyway, cheers. I even found an HTML only version of my Google Calendar to link to, which took some messing around with. Anyway, my website link is below if you need to find my email.


http://www.blindjournalist.wordpress.com


Re: Installing Windows 10

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi.

You could also download the windows media creation tool and create the windows installation media on a flash drive.   

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeffrey McFarland
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 10:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Installing Windows 10

 

What type of PC do you have? Different motherboards have different BIOS

 

On Sun, Dec 30, 2018, 9:37 AM farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@... wrote:

I want to install Windows 10 in desktop. I have selected pendrive in boot priority of bios. But, when I'm turning on computer it is booting through harddisk and turning on as usual. How to boot by pendrive? I used Rufus to create bootable pendrive and burn iso file.


Re: mariana islands

Lino Morales
 

Hi. I too did the same thing Brice did and I’m using David with NVDA 2018.4 also. Waiting from a response about this also.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Brice Mijares <bricemijares@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 11:34:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] mariana islands
 
Joseph
I went to  menu/Preferences/Speech dictionaries/Voice dictionary).
the first one says alt d for dictionary, then alt e to edit. neither of
these key combinations work for me. Also tried space bar and enter. Any
ideas why? thanks.

On 12/30/2018 6:50 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> This is mostly controlled by the synthesizer in question. You can actually
> ask a given synthesizer voice to not interpret things for you (NVDA
> menu/Preferences/Speech dictionaries/Voice dictionary).
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 6:46 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] mariana islands
>
> According to Google, the abbreviation for Northern Mariana Islands is mp.
> So NVDA is interpreting for you.  Ugh!
>
> I wonder if there is a setting to tell it not to interpret abbreviations.
> there isn't in JAWS, and I wish there were.  I want to make the
> interpretation myself, thank you very much.  (LOL) At 08:30 AM 12/30/2018,
> you wrote:
>> 1. Which speech synthesiser are you using?
>>
>> 2. Which language is it set to use?
>>
>> 3. Exactly what does NVDA say when you get it to read the example line you
>> have quoted - where does "Mariana Islands" appear in the speech output?
>>
>>
>> Antony.
>>
>> On Sunday 30 December 2018 at 15:26:39, Brice Mijares wrote:
>>
>>> Why does NVDA echo Mariana Islands at times while going through a list
>>> of MP3's?
>>> Like
>>> 11 Country road.mp3
>>> Hopefully I'm not the only one hearing this!
>>
>> --
>> A user interface is like a joke.
>> If you have to explain it, it means it doesn't work.
>>
>>                                                     Please reply to the
> list;
>>                                                           please
>> *don't* CC me.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: mariana islands

Brice Mijares
 

You are correct, if you remove the numbers,you don't hear Northern Mariana Islands.

Something in the way she moves.mp3
01 Something in the way she moves.mp3
Another one with the one core voice is the abbreviation for cup. it will say something like Cuban peso. No problem, I been dealing with this for a couple of years. Thanks.

On 12/30/2018 6:30 AM, Andre Fisher wrote:
I can reproduce this using the OneCore synthesizer, but not with eSpeak, which suggests this is specific to that synthesizer only. It probably has to do with the fact that the line starts with a number, with the word road in the middle


Re: NVDA going silent.

Gene
 

Since items were removed and since you still have something affecting Chrome, that raises the question of what you may be doing to expose yourself to adware or malware.  I would urge you to use No Script with Firefox, which will provide some protection against adware and malware being installed in the first place.  I don't know enough about the plugin to tell you the best way to set it.  I'll mostly leave that to others.  Whether you go to sites that are more likely to infect you, install free software from the Internet without using Unchecky, which helps protect you from unwanted programs being installed along with the free software you are installing, or other practices that expose you, it appears you are doing things that make it more likely you will become infected with adware or other forms of malware.  This would likely be of value to discuss further.  Prevention is as or more important than removing something once it is there.
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
From: MAX
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

Last night I did a search for add ware programs and found to my surprise that malware bytes offers an add ware eliminator.  It appears not to be included in the main malware program.  So I downloaded it and ran it.  It found several items and removed them.  Then I opened Chrome.  The first thing I heard was New notification from google chrome.  Drink a cup of this before going to bed and watch the pounds melt away.  Someone is still trying to sell me snake oil and they are immune to add ware removers.  I’m still happy with firefox and as long as I am I’m not going to waste anymore effort on chrome.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 11:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

Nothing finds everything.  Others can recommend other programs you might try.  If you really want or need to go deeply into the question, a site like bleeping computers, where a lot of geeks hang out and help users, would give you help.  You may need sighted help to do some of what they discuss.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 9:01 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

I would have thought that malware bytes would have found anything.  I don’t know what else to do.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 1:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

This isn't  Google and it isn't Chrome.  It is adware on your machine.  Others, including me, have said that we don't get such popups.  Chrome is by far the most popular Windows browser at present.  it wouldn't be if it subjected people to what you are experiencing.

 

It doesn't matter where the popups say they come from.  Maybe the adware is trying to make the popups appear as though they come from Chrome to try to make them appear more credible or make people think they are being shown by the browser.  They are definitely not coming from Chrome.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 12:45 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

I pulled the Firefox shortcut out of my rarely used folder and put it on the desktop.  The menus were there as was the quick start favorites bar.  I set it as default browser, and my home page.  That was easier than chrome or MS edge.  I haven’t seen any popups yet.  I’ll try it for a few days and see how it goes.  NVDA seems a bit more responsive than with other browsers but time will tell.   I wonder if google knows they are driving users away with their popups.  Each popup announced that it was from google chrome.  I don’t have popups from any other program.  I think the malware on my computer is google chrome.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 1:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

What you are describing regarding popups are all signs of adware.  Chrome has its own popup blocker and adware can show popups anyway.  If you install a popup blocker, adware can show popups. 

 

Firefox has menus.  If you pressed alt and no menus came up, the browser was set to full screen.  If a program has a full screen setting and its on, you can't bring up menus because the entire screen is used for the displayed content.  Sighted people wouldn't see menus either.  To put the program back to normal, press f11.  That is the standard key in Windows programs to toggle between full screen on and off.  Full screen isn't the same as maximizing a program.  You can maximize a program with no problems. 

 

As far as a bookmark bar is concerned, if you mean the one in Chrome you can get to with f6, there isn't one in Firefox.  But Firefox works very well with bookmarks.  Use control b and you will bring up a bookmarks menu very similar to that in internet Explorer.  There is also a very good search bookmarks feature in firefox.  I won't explain that in this message but I will if you want to try it. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 11:44 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

Yes, we had a discussion about popups in Chrome and I set the option to no popups with no results.  I also installed a popup blocker but it didn’t do anything to solve the problem.  The last time I tried Firefox I couldn’t find any kind of menu navigation.  Without that I couldn’t set it as the default browser or import bookmarks.  Also I don’t think it has a favorites bar which I use all the time. 

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 8:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

I seem to recall we may have discussed popups with Chrome before.  I think its adware.  I don't recall hearing about what you are discussing in Chrome in cases other than adware.

 

If you don't want to investigate that problem, then it would be a good good idea to start using Firefox.  If you can use Internet Explorer and if it works properly on the sites you want to use, you may want to just use it for now, but over time, Internet Explorer will work with increasingly fewer sites.

 

Gene

----- Original message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 7:56 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

It happened just now.  When I pressed nvda key + N the menu came up.  I arrowed around the menu and speech came back on.  So there is another way to restore it.  The two programs I had running were outlook 2013 and internet explorer.  Chrome has become unusable because of the popups Which are greater in number every time I open it.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 10:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

We don't know if there is a problem with speech or if the program stops running.  You can't assume that just because speech stops, that the problem is with speech.  When this happens, run Narrator or another screen-reader.  Then try opening the NVDA menu.  Does the menu open?  If so, the problem has something to do with speech while NVDA is running.  It may be a synthesizer problem or it may be an NVDA problem.  If the menu doesn't open, then NVDA is no longer running which is an entirely different problem. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 10:00 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

I don't understand what you mean by sleep mode.  I turned off character speak using nvda key 2 but it didn't keep it from going into its silent mode.  It's in it right now.  I hope this message will make sense as I am not getting any beeping feedback.  Or reading of lines as I up and down arrow.


73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

Actually if you toggle it to sleep mode and turn off typing letters its actually able to work for you if you run long passages as long as you don't hit control



On 12/26/2018 2:47 PM, MAX wrote:
> I got a wry smile out of the recent thread from people who wanted to
> keep NVDA from speaking.  It does that all the time to me although I
> don't want it too. I have found that if I am running two or more
> programs in windows
> 10 that at some random time after starting the second program that
> NVDA will go silent.  No amount of tabbing or arrowing will cure its case of
> laryngitis.   So far the only way I can restore its voice is to press
> control alt N to restart it.  Is there a quicker way to start it
> talking again?
>
>
> 73 (Regards).
>
> Max.  K 4 O DS.
>
> I've Never Lost the Wonder.
>
> Email: max@...
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Re: mariana islands

Gene
 

You can use the speech dictionary in JAWS and NVDA to stop this.  Tell it to pronounce the abbreviation as you wish.  This isn't NVDA.  It’s the synthesizer.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] mariana islands

According to Google, the abbreviation for Northern Mariana Islands is
mp.  So NVDA is interpreting for you.  Ugh!

I wonder if there is a setting to tell it not to interpret
abbreviations.  there isn't in JAWS, and I wish there were.  I want
to make the interpretation myself, thank you very much.  (LOL)
At 08:30 AM 12/30/2018, you wrote:
>1. Which speech synthesiser are you using?
>
>2. Which language is it set to use?
>
>3. Exactly what does NVDA say when you get it to read the example line you
>have quoted - where does "Mariana Islands" appear in the speech output?
>
>
>Antony.
>
>On Sunday 30 December 2018 at 15:26:39, Brice Mijares wrote:
>
> > Why does NVDA echo Mariana Islands at times while going through a list
> > of MP3's?
> > Like
> > 11 Country road.mp3
> > Hopefully I'm not the only one hearing this!
>
>--
>A user interface is like a joke.
>If you have to explain it, it means it doesn't work.
>
>                                                    Please reply to the list;
>                                                          please
> *don't* CC me.
>
>




Re: mariana islands

Andre Fisher
 

I can reproduce this using the OneCore synthesizer, but not with eSpeak, which suggests this is specific to that synthesizer only. It probably has to do with the fact that the line starts with a number, with the word road in the middle


Re: mariana islands

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

For me, this happens when using the oneCore voices and browsing through folders of .mp3 files.  The odd thing is that it doesn't happen with every file.


George

On 12/30/2018 8:26 AM, Brice Mijares wrote:
Why does NVDA echo Mariana Islands at times while going through a list of MP3's?
Like
11 Country road.mp3
Hopefully I'm not the only one hearing this!


Re: NVDA going silent.

MAX <max@...>
 

We got sidetracked on chrome and lost the original thread.  We established that nvda is still running but its voice has been silenced.  I’m more interested in how to quickly restore speech as opposed to what’s causing it.  However, if any of the developers want me to run an experiment to determine the cause I am willing to do it.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 11:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

Nothing finds everything.  Others can recommend other programs you might try.  If you really want or need to go deeply into the question, a site like bleeping computers, where a lot of geeks hang out and help users, would give you help.  You may need sighted help to do some of what they discuss.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 9:01 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

I would have thought that malware bytes would have found anything.  I don’t know what else to do.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 1:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

This isn't  Google and it isn't Chrome.  It is adware on your machine.  Others, including me, have said that we don't get such popups.  Chrome is by far the most popular Windows browser at present.  it wouldn't be if it subjected people to what you are experiencing.

 

It doesn't matter where the popups say they come from.  Maybe the adware is trying to make the popups appear as though they come from Chrome to try to make them appear more credible or make people think they are being shown by the browser.  They are definitely not coming from Chrome.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 12:45 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

I pulled the Firefox shortcut out of my rarely used folder and put it on the desktop.  The menus were there as was the quick start favorites bar.  I set it as default browser, and my home page.  That was easier than chrome or MS edge.  I haven’t seen any popups yet.  I’ll try it for a few days and see how it goes.  NVDA seems a bit more responsive than with other browsers but time will tell.   I wonder if google knows they are driving users away with their popups.  Each popup announced that it was from google chrome.  I don’t have popups from any other program.  I think the malware on my computer is google chrome.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 1:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

What you are describing regarding popups are all signs of adware.  Chrome has its own popup blocker and adware can show popups anyway.  If you install a popup blocker, adware can show popups. 

 

Firefox has menus.  If you pressed alt and no menus came up, the browser was set to full screen.  If a program has a full screen setting and its on, you can't bring up menus because the entire screen is used for the displayed content.  Sighted people wouldn't see menus either.  To put the program back to normal, press f11.  That is the standard key in Windows programs to toggle between full screen on and off.  Full screen isn't the same as maximizing a program.  You can maximize a program with no problems. 

 

As far as a bookmark bar is concerned, if you mean the one in Chrome you can get to with f6, there isn't one in Firefox.  But Firefox works very well with bookmarks.  Use control b and you will bring up a bookmarks menu very similar to that in internet Explorer.  There is also a very good search bookmarks feature in firefox.  I won't explain that in this message but I will if you want to try it. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 11:44 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

Yes, we had a discussion about popups in Chrome and I set the option to no popups with no results.  I also installed a popup blocker but it didn’t do anything to solve the problem.  The last time I tried Firefox I couldn’t find any kind of menu navigation.  Without that I couldn’t set it as the default browser or import bookmarks.  Also I don’t think it has a favorites bar which I use all the time. 

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 8:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

I seem to recall we may have discussed popups with Chrome before.  I think its adware.  I don't recall hearing about what you are discussing in Chrome in cases other than adware.

 

If you don't want to investigate that problem, then it would be a good good idea to start using Firefox.  If you can use Internet Explorer and if it works properly on the sites you want to use, you may want to just use it for now, but over time, Internet Explorer will work with increasingly fewer sites.

 

Gene

----- Original message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 7:56 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

It happened just now.  When I pressed nvda key + N the menu came up.  I arrowed around the menu and speech came back on.  So there is another way to restore it.  The two programs I had running were outlook 2013 and internet explorer.  Chrome has become unusable because of the popups Which are greater in number every time I open it.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 10:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

We don't know if there is a problem with speech or if the program stops running.  You can't assume that just because speech stops, that the problem is with speech.  When this happens, run Narrator or another screen-reader.  Then try opening the NVDA menu.  Does the menu open?  If so, the problem has something to do with speech while NVDA is running.  It may be a synthesizer problem or it may be an NVDA problem.  If the menu doesn't open, then NVDA is no longer running which is an entirely different problem. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 10:00 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

I don't understand what you mean by sleep mode.  I turned off character speak using nvda key 2 but it didn't keep it from going into its silent mode.  It's in it right now.  I hope this message will make sense as I am not getting any beeping feedback.  Or reading of lines as I up and down arrow.


73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

Actually if you toggle it to sleep mode and turn off typing letters its actually able to work for you if you run long passages as long as you don't hit control



On 12/26/2018 2:47 PM, MAX wrote:
> I got a wry smile out of the recent thread from people who wanted to
> keep NVDA from speaking.  It does that all the time to me although I
> don't want it too. I have found that if I am running two or more
> programs in windows
> 10 that at some random time after starting the second program that
> NVDA will go silent.  No amount of tabbing or arrowing will cure its case of
> laryngitis.   So far the only way I can restore its voice is to press
> control alt N to restart it.  Is there a quicker way to start it
> talking again?
>
>
> 73 (Regards).
>
> Max.  K 4 O DS.
>
> I've Never Lost the Wonder.
>
> Email: max@...
>
> Vacuum Tube  Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/
> Transistor site: http://www.angelfire.com/planet/funwithtransistors/
> Woodworking site:
> http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/Woodworking/wwindex.h
> tml Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com
>
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Re: NVDA going silent.

MAX <max@...>
 

Last night I did a search for add ware programs and found to my surprise that malware bytes offers an add ware eliminator.  It appears not to be included in the main malware program.  So I downloaded it and ran it.  It found several items and removed them.  Then I opened Chrome.  The first thing I heard was New notification from google chrome.  Drink a cup of this before going to bed and watch the pounds melt away.  Someone is still trying to sell me snake oil and they are immune to add ware removers.  I’m still happy with firefox and as long as I am I’m not going to waste anymore effort on chrome.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 11:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

Nothing finds everything.  Others can recommend other programs you might try.  If you really want or need to go deeply into the question, a site like bleeping computers, where a lot of geeks hang out and help users, would give you help.  You may need sighted help to do some of what they discuss.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 9:01 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

I would have thought that malware bytes would have found anything.  I don’t know what else to do.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 1:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

This isn't  Google and it isn't Chrome.  It is adware on your machine.  Others, including me, have said that we don't get such popups.  Chrome is by far the most popular Windows browser at present.  it wouldn't be if it subjected people to what you are experiencing.

 

It doesn't matter where the popups say they come from.  Maybe the adware is trying to make the popups appear as though they come from Chrome to try to make them appear more credible or make people think they are being shown by the browser.  They are definitely not coming from Chrome.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 12:45 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

I pulled the Firefox shortcut out of my rarely used folder and put it on the desktop.  The menus were there as was the quick start favorites bar.  I set it as default browser, and my home page.  That was easier than chrome or MS edge.  I haven’t seen any popups yet.  I’ll try it for a few days and see how it goes.  NVDA seems a bit more responsive than with other browsers but time will tell.   I wonder if google knows they are driving users away with their popups.  Each popup announced that it was from google chrome.  I don’t have popups from any other program.  I think the malware on my computer is google chrome.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 1:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

What you are describing regarding popups are all signs of adware.  Chrome has its own popup blocker and adware can show popups anyway.  If you install a popup blocker, adware can show popups. 

 

Firefox has menus.  If you pressed alt and no menus came up, the browser was set to full screen.  If a program has a full screen setting and its on, you can't bring up menus because the entire screen is used for the displayed content.  Sighted people wouldn't see menus either.  To put the program back to normal, press f11.  That is the standard key in Windows programs to toggle between full screen on and off.  Full screen isn't the same as maximizing a program.  You can maximize a program with no problems. 

 

As far as a bookmark bar is concerned, if you mean the one in Chrome you can get to with f6, there isn't one in Firefox.  But Firefox works very well with bookmarks.  Use control b and you will bring up a bookmarks menu very similar to that in internet Explorer.  There is also a very good search bookmarks feature in firefox.  I won't explain that in this message but I will if you want to try it. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 11:44 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

Yes, we had a discussion about popups in Chrome and I set the option to no popups with no results.  I also installed a popup blocker but it didn’t do anything to solve the problem.  The last time I tried Firefox I couldn’t find any kind of menu navigation.  Without that I couldn’t set it as the default browser or import bookmarks.  Also I don’t think it has a favorites bar which I use all the time. 

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 8:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

I seem to recall we may have discussed popups with Chrome before.  I think its adware.  I don't recall hearing about what you are discussing in Chrome in cases other than adware.

 

If you don't want to investigate that problem, then it would be a good good idea to start using Firefox.  If you can use Internet Explorer and if it works properly on the sites you want to use, you may want to just use it for now, but over time, Internet Explorer will work with increasingly fewer sites.

 

Gene

----- Original message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 7:56 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

It happened just now.  When I pressed nvda key + N the menu came up.  I arrowed around the menu and speech came back on.  So there is another way to restore it.  The two programs I had running were outlook 2013 and internet explorer.  Chrome has become unusable because of the popups Which are greater in number every time I open it.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 10:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

We don't know if there is a problem with speech or if the program stops running.  You can't assume that just because speech stops, that the problem is with speech.  When this happens, run Narrator or another screen-reader.  Then try opening the NVDA menu.  Does the menu open?  If so, the problem has something to do with speech while NVDA is running.  It may be a synthesizer problem or it may be an NVDA problem.  If the menu doesn't open, then NVDA is no longer running which is an entirely different problem. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 10:00 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

 

I don't understand what you mean by sleep mode.  I turned off character speak using nvda key 2 but it didn't keep it from going into its silent mode.  It's in it right now.  I hope this message will make sense as I am not getting any beeping feedback.  Or reading of lines as I up and down arrow.


73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

Actually if you toggle it to sleep mode and turn off typing letters its actually able to work for you if you run long passages as long as you don't hit control



On 12/26/2018 2:47 PM, MAX wrote:
> I got a wry smile out of the recent thread from people who wanted to
> keep NVDA from speaking.  It does that all the time to me although I
> don't want it too. I have found that if I am running two or more
> programs in windows
> 10 that at some random time after starting the second program that
> NVDA will go silent.  No amount of tabbing or arrowing will cure its case of
> laryngitis.   So far the only way I can restore its voice is to press
> control alt N to restart it.  Is there a quicker way to start it
> talking again?
>
>
> 73 (Regards).
>
> Max.  K 4 O DS.
>
> I've Never Lost the Wonder.
>
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Re: Installing Windows 10

Chris
 

You usually have to press a key to initiate bootting from the pen drive regardless of the boot sequence

 

 

From: farhan israk
Sent: 30 December 2018 14:37
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Installing Windows 10

 

I want to install Windows 10 in desktop. I have selected pendrive in boot priority of bios. But, when I'm turning on computer it is booting through harddisk and turning on as usual. How to boot by pendrive? I used Rufus to create bootable pendrive and burn iso file.

 


Re: mariana islands

Brice Mijares
 

Yes, I can add, but I just cancelled out.

On 12/30/2018 8:41 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
You may need to add new entries (try pressing Alt+A for add). If that doesn't work, I will need to look at the log and find out what might be happening.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 8:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] mariana islands
Joseph
I went to menu/Preferences/Speech dictionaries/Voice dictionary).
the first one says alt d for dictionary, then alt e to edit. neither of these key combinations work for me. Also tried space bar and enter. Any ideas why? thanks.
On 12/30/2018 6:50 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
This is mostly controlled by the synthesizer in question. You can
actually ask a given synthesizer voice to not interpret things for you
(NVDA menu/Preferences/Speech dictionaries/Voice dictionary).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 6:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] mariana islands

According to Google, the abbreviation for Northern Mariana Islands is mp.
So NVDA is interpreting for you. Ugh!

I wonder if there is a setting to tell it not to interpret abbreviations.
there isn't in JAWS, and I wish there were. I want to make the
interpretation myself, thank you very much. (LOL) At 08:30 AM
12/30/2018, you wrote:
1. Which speech synthesiser are you using?

2. Which language is it set to use?

3. Exactly what does NVDA say when you get it to read the example
line you have quoted - where does "Mariana Islands" appear in the speech output?


Antony.

On Sunday 30 December 2018 at 15:26:39, Brice Mijares wrote:

Why does NVDA echo Mariana Islands at times while going through a
list of MP3's?
Like
11 Country road.mp3
Hopefully I'm not the only one hearing this!
--
A user interface is like a joke.
If you have to explain it, it means it doesn't work.

Please reply to
the
list;
please
*don't* CC me.








Re: mariana islands

 

Hi,
You may need to add new entries (try pressing Alt+A for add). If that doesn't work, I will need to look at the log and find out what might be happening.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 8:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] mariana islands

Joseph
I went to menu/Preferences/Speech dictionaries/Voice dictionary).
the first one says alt d for dictionary, then alt e to edit. neither of these key combinations work for me. Also tried space bar and enter. Any ideas why? thanks.

On 12/30/2018 6:50 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
This is mostly controlled by the synthesizer in question. You can
actually ask a given synthesizer voice to not interpret things for you
(NVDA menu/Preferences/Speech dictionaries/Voice dictionary).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 6:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] mariana islands

According to Google, the abbreviation for Northern Mariana Islands is mp.
So NVDA is interpreting for you. Ugh!

I wonder if there is a setting to tell it not to interpret abbreviations.
there isn't in JAWS, and I wish there were. I want to make the
interpretation myself, thank you very much. (LOL) At 08:30 AM
12/30/2018, you wrote:
1. Which speech synthesiser are you using?

2. Which language is it set to use?

3. Exactly what does NVDA say when you get it to read the example
line you have quoted - where does "Mariana Islands" appear in the speech output?


Antony.

On Sunday 30 December 2018 at 15:26:39, Brice Mijares wrote:

Why does NVDA echo Mariana Islands at times while going through a
list of MP3's?
Like
11 Country road.mp3
Hopefully I'm not the only one hearing this!
--
A user interface is like a joke.
If you have to explain it, it means it doesn't work.

Please reply to
the
list;
please
*don't* CC me.








Re: mariana islands

Brice Mijares
 

Joseph
I went to menu/Preferences/Speech dictionaries/Voice dictionary).
the first one says alt d for dictionary, then alt e to edit. neither of these key combinations work for me. Also tried space bar and enter. Any ideas why? thanks.

On 12/30/2018 6:50 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
This is mostly controlled by the synthesizer in question. You can actually
ask a given synthesizer voice to not interpret things for you (NVDA
menu/Preferences/Speech dictionaries/Voice dictionary).
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 6:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] mariana islands
According to Google, the abbreviation for Northern Mariana Islands is mp.
So NVDA is interpreting for you. Ugh!
I wonder if there is a setting to tell it not to interpret abbreviations.
there isn't in JAWS, and I wish there were. I want to make the
interpretation myself, thank you very much. (LOL) At 08:30 AM 12/30/2018,
you wrote:
1. Which speech synthesiser are you using?

2. Which language is it set to use?

3. Exactly what does NVDA say when you get it to read the example line you
have quoted - where does "Mariana Islands" appear in the speech output?


Antony.

On Sunday 30 December 2018 at 15:26:39, Brice Mijares wrote:

Why does NVDA echo Mariana Islands at times while going through a list
of MP3's?
Like
11 Country road.mp3
Hopefully I'm not the only one hearing this!
--
A user interface is like a joke.
If you have to explain it, it means it doesn't work.

Please reply to the
list;
please
*don't* CC me.


Re: Installing Windows 10

Jeffrey McFarland
 

What type of PC do you have? Different motherboards have different BIOS


On Sun, Dec 30, 2018, 9:37 AM farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@... wrote:

I want to install Windows 10 in desktop. I have selected pendrive in boot priority of bios. But, when I'm turning on computer it is booting through harddisk and turning on as usual. How to boot by pendrive? I used Rufus to create bootable pendrive and burn iso file.


Re: mariana islands

Brice Mijares
 

thanks for the info.

On 12/30/2018 6:46 AM, Ann Byrne wrote:
According to Google, the abbreviation for Northern Mariana Islands is mp.  So NVDA is interpreting for you.  Ugh!
I wonder if there is a setting to tell it not to interpret abbreviations.  there isn't in JAWS, and I wish there were.  I want to make the interpretation myself, thank you very much.  (LOL)
At 08:30 AM 12/30/2018, you wrote:
1. Which speech synthesiser are you using?

2. Which language is it set to use?

3. Exactly what does NVDA say when you get it to read the example line you
have quoted - where does "Mariana Islands" appear in the speech output?


Antony.

On Sunday 30 December 2018 at 15:26:39, Brice Mijares wrote:

Why does NVDA echo Mariana Islands at times while going through a list
of MP3's?
Like
11 Country road.mp3
Hopefully I'm not the only one hearing this!
--
A user interface is like a joke.
If you have to explain it, it means it doesn't work.

                                                   Please reply to the list;
                                                         please *don't* CC me.


Re: mariana islands

Brice Mijares
 

, micro soft David, english I assume and it's random throughouta list of mp3's. Thanks.

On 12/30/2018 6:30 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
1. Which speech synthesiser are you using?
2. Which language is it set to use?
3. Exactly what does NVDA say when you get it to read the example line you
have quoted - where does "Mariana Islands" appear in the speech output?
Antony.
On Sunday 30 December 2018 at 15:26:39, Brice Mijares wrote:

Why does NVDA echo Mariana Islands at times while going through a list
of MP3's?
Like
11 Country road.mp3
Hopefully I'm not the only one hearing this!


Re: mariana islands

 

Hi,
This is mostly controlled by the synthesizer in question. You can actually
ask a given synthesizer voice to not interpret things for you (NVDA
menu/Preferences/Speech dictionaries/Voice dictionary).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 6:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] mariana islands

According to Google, the abbreviation for Northern Mariana Islands is mp.
So NVDA is interpreting for you. Ugh!

I wonder if there is a setting to tell it not to interpret abbreviations.
there isn't in JAWS, and I wish there were. I want to make the
interpretation myself, thank you very much. (LOL) At 08:30 AM 12/30/2018,
you wrote:
1. Which speech synthesiser are you using?

2. Which language is it set to use?

3. Exactly what does NVDA say when you get it to read the example line you
have quoted - where does "Mariana Islands" appear in the speech output?


Antony.

On Sunday 30 December 2018 at 15:26:39, Brice Mijares wrote:

Why does NVDA echo Mariana Islands at times while going through a list
of MP3's?
Like
11 Country road.mp3
Hopefully I'm not the only one hearing this!
--
A user interface is like a joke.
If you have to explain it, it means it doesn't work.

Please reply to the
list;
please
*don't* CC me.


Re: mariana islands

Ann Byrne
 

According to Google, the abbreviation for Northern Mariana Islands is mp. So NVDA is interpreting for you. Ugh!

I wonder if there is a setting to tell it not to interpret abbreviations. there isn't in JAWS, and I wish there were. I want to make the interpretation myself, thank you very much. (LOL)

At 08:30 AM 12/30/2018, you wrote:
1. Which speech synthesiser are you using?

2. Which language is it set to use?

3. Exactly what does NVDA say when you get it to read the example line you
have quoted - where does "Mariana Islands" appear in the speech output?


Antony.

On Sunday 30 December 2018 at 15:26:39, Brice Mijares wrote:

Why does NVDA echo Mariana Islands at times while going through a list
of MP3's?
Like
11 Country road.mp3
Hopefully I'm not the only one hearing this!
--
A user interface is like a joke.
If you have to explain it, it means it doesn't work.

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.