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Re: DISM and SFC with remote support add-on

Isaac <bigikemusic@...>
 

I have never had issues but I would also do some reading first just to see if others have reported bugs on microsoft forums and such.

----- Original Message -----
From: "George McCoy" <slr1bpz@charter.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 2:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] DISM and SFC with remote support add-on


Has anyone run these utilities on a remote machine using the nvda remote support add-on?

If so, did you encounter any issues?

I am concerned about losing control of the utilities in the event of an interrupted connection or incompatability issues between the remote support add-on and the DISM or SFC utilities.


Thanks,

George



Re: Highbernating windows 10

 

Well I don't think having fast startup on a desktop is a good idea as such unless you need it.

Its also safer to have the system startup properly sometimes it can to lead to interesting things.

On the older box we have one of them, the user always hybernates his box.

If its left in a certain state for to long things don't work well till you restart it.

With units having flash drives you really don't need fast startup at all.

If you needed the system on quickly, quicker than normal, well maybe.

Or if you used a hard drive and such then sure I could see merrit in this.

But There have been situations where I can turn on a system and its in a mangled state till I restart it or hard power it.

Or reformat it because its stuck weirdly.

Its easier if its not going to do that to me.

On 1/1/2019 8:50 AM, Gene wrote:
I would say that if you understand what fast startup does, its alright to have it on. Unless you understand it, you should have it off. Microsoft is getting too cute with this feature. Sleep should be sleep and hibernate should be hibernate. Fast shutdown really isn't a shutdown and calling something it isn't leads to confusion and improper understanding and misleading thinking. Shutdown is shutdown and that should be it. If Microsoft wants to promote sleep, then they should actively do so, but not by creating an almost identical feature and calling it something else to get people to use it and not understand what it is and what it does if not used properly.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 1:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Highbernating windows 10


Yeah and things can screw up at times.

Saying that if you are on the go, you probably want to leave this on.



On 1/1/2019 3:58 AM, Richard Wells wrote:
Fast startup should not be checked, because each time you shut down
your computer, it will only hibernate rather than really shut down.
When you boot your computer again, it will bring back the last state
instead of doing a fresh start. This doesn't apply to restart, only to
shut down.

On 12/30/2018 9:03 PM, Kwork wrote:
Brian, out of curiosity, why do you not recommend fast startup to be
checked?

Travis

On 12/30/2018 5:46 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
One can also enable/disable Hibernate under Power Options, /Choose
what the power button does/ link, activating the /Change settings
that are currently unavailable/ link, then checking/unchecking the
Hibernate checkbox.

While you're in there uncheck the /Turn on Fast Startup
(recommended)/ checkbox.

I turned the presentation of Hibernate in the Power menu back on at
the same time that I turned Fast Startup off.
--

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*/A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the
need for illusion is deep./*

~ Saul Bellow, /To Jerusalem and Back/




Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


If i remember right the last version of nvda to work with nvda for xp and vista was 2017.3


gene nz


On 31/12/2018 8:36 PM, Meet modi wrote:
Hello hi i dear user I have query about nvd new version 2018.3. in Windows 7 Vista this version is not support please give me answer. Because whenever I try to install Nvidia 2018 18.3 it says Windows is not compatible with this version so please help me.

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From: hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...>
Date: Mon, Dec 31, 2018, 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #AddonRelease
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>


then i have a long time to wait like 19 or 20 hour then?


Gene nz


On 31/12/2018 5:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

No – it is based on UTC, not midnight local time.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 8:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #AddonRelease

 

Hi joseph

 

I guess i will see it before the others then as long as i am still awake if not the smart speaker is set to let me know.

 

Gene nz

 

On 31/12/2018 4:01 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

Happy New Year (or New Year’s Eve depending on where you are).

 

Sometime in 2019 (few seconds after midnight UTC on January 1, 2019 to be exact), Add-on Updater 19.01.1 will make its appearance on any computer running NVDA with this add-on installed. Although this is a point release, it is a major release that resolves more compatibility issues with Python 3 and simplifies certain portions of this add-on source code. You will also find a surprise inside (shhh, you’ll see it after upgrading to that version).

 

Cheers,

Joseph

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DISM and SFC with remote support add-on

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

Has anyone run these utilities on a remote machine using the nvda remote support add-on?

If so, did you encounter any issues?

I am concerned about losing control of the utilities in the event of an interrupted connection or incompatability issues between the remote support add-on and the DISM or SFC utilities.


Thanks,

George


Re: Highbernating windows 10

David Moore
 

Yes!

I keep my computers asleep by shutting the lid for three or four days.

Then, I just do a restart!

I have done that for years, and never had a problem.

Actually, when I used to shut my computers off a lot, I had more problems, and the hard drive did not last as long!

David Moore

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 3:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Highbernating windows 10

 

On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 02:40 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Saying that if you are on the go, you probably want to leave this [Fast Startup] on.

I disagree.  When I'm "on the go" if it will be hours and hours before I fire up again I use Hibernate.  If it will be within an hour or two I use Sleep, which wakes much faster than Fast Startup does.

It's amazing how little power is consumed these days by the Sleep state.
 
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Re: mariana islands

 

Shaun,

             I believe that the packs are just that - packs.  It's an all or nothing deal.

             That being said, I have never tried removing "part of a pack" either.
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Re: Installing Windows 10

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi.
Before I reinstalled windows 10 I was running an unstable insider build and wanted to go back to a stable version of Windows.
I downloaded the media creation tool, intending to create an installation media on my flash drive. However, I was given the option to upgrade the pc to the stable version, When I did that, it replaced the insider build with build 17763. I never had to use the flash drive apparently. Make sure you back up your files before you reinstall, though.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 2:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Installing Windows 10

To be honest I'd never partition the system drive with 10 on it.

In fact the first thing I have done is wipe the system drive and install
10 on it.

Win10 eventually decided that my boot partition was full.

There were several small and big partitions made for system and swap, a recovery partition and a diagnostics and something else.

The cons of all this is that by just flat cleaning the entire structure you won't be able to access certain bios recovery features.

On the other side we can't access them so its not a big loss and you can run the diagnostics of that at least on windows yourself after a fashion.

If in doubt though I'd make a bios recovery in case you screwed things up or something during a reflash.

If you happen to be in the middle of a lightning strike zone well you are done.

If you must partition anything, I'd partition the secondary drive, since bar a few things windows will not load itself on to that drive at all.



On 12/31/2018 8:45 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I think the issue is actually invoking it from the drive.
I think I'd tend to do what I did when I had a brief encounter with
10, assuming masochistic tendencies of having an operating system that
is new every 6 months, just burn a dvd, lots of cheap plug in drives
around.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "molly the blind tech lover"
<brainardmolly@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Installing Windows 10


Hi.

You could also download the windows media creation tool and create the
windows installation media on a flash drive.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeffrey
McFarland
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 10:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Installing Windows 10



What type of PC do you have? Different motherboards have different BIOS



On Sun, Dec 30, 2018, 9:37 AM farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@gmail.com
<mailto:fahim.net.2014@gmail.com> wrote:

I want to install Windows 10 in desktop. I have selected pendrive in
boot priority of bios. But, when I'm turning on computer it is booting
through harddisk and turning on as usual. How to boot by pendrive? I
used Rufus to create bootable pendrive and burn iso file.











Re: Highbernating windows 10

 

On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 02:40 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Saying that if you are on the go, you probably want to leave this [Fast Startup] on.
I disagree.  When I'm "on the go" if it will be hours and hours before I fire up again I use Hibernate.  If it will be within an hour or two I use Sleep, which wakes much faster than Fast Startup does.

It's amazing how little power is consumed these days by the Sleep state.
 
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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Highbernating windows 10

Gene
 

I would say that if you understand what fast startup does, its alright to have it on.  Unless you understand it, you should have it off.  Microsoft is getting too cute with this feature.  Sleep should be sleep and hibernate should be hibernate.  Fast shutdown really isn't a shutdown and calling something it isn't leads to confusion and improper understanding and misleading thinking.  Shutdown is shutdown and that should be it.  If Microsoft wants to promote sleep, then they should actively do so, but not by creating an almost identical feature and calling it something else to get people to use it and not understand what it is and what it does if not used properly.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Highbernating windows 10

Yeah and things can screw up at times.

Saying that if you are on the go, you probably want to leave this on.



On 1/1/2019 3:58 AM, Richard Wells wrote:
> Fast startup should not be checked, because each time you shut down
> your computer, it will only hibernate rather than really shut down.
> When you boot your computer again, it will bring back the last state
> instead of doing a fresh start. This doesn't apply to restart, only to
> shut down.
>
> On 12/30/2018 9:03 PM, Kwork wrote:
>>
>> Brian, out of curiosity, why do you not recommend fast startup to be
>> checked?
>>
>> Travis
>>
>> On 12/30/2018 5:46 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
>>> One can also enable/disable Hibernate under Power Options, /Choose
>>> what the power button does/ link, activating the /Change settings
>>> that are currently unavailable/ link, then checking/unchecking the
>>> Hibernate checkbox.
>>>
>>> While you're in there uncheck the /Turn on Fast Startup
>>> (recommended)/ checkbox.
>>>
>>> I turned the presentation of Hibernate in the Power menu back on at
>>> the same time that I turned Fast Startup off.
>>> --
>>>
>>> Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
>>>
>>> */A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the
>>> need for illusion is deep./*
>>>
>>>           ~ Saul Bellow, /To Jerusalem and Back/
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>



Re: mariana islands

 

After I have the languages, if I then kill the unwanted pack, can I still keep the voices like we used to or not.

On 1/1/2019 6:04 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Brice,

            You do not have to make any registry changes.  If you just download additional languages the OneCore voices come right along with them (provided that they are languages that support text-to-speech, some don't).

             Of course, it's pretty clear that adding the language packs results in registry changes, but those are part and parcel of Windows installing those languages itself.  It is not manual.

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*A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.*

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back



Re: Highbernating windows 10

 

Yeah and things can screw up at times.

Saying that if you are on the go, you probably want to leave this on.

On 1/1/2019 3:58 AM, Richard Wells wrote:
Fast startup should not be checked, because each time you shut down your computer, it will only hibernate rather than really shut down. When you boot your computer again, it will bring back the last state instead of doing a fresh start. This doesn't apply to restart, only to shut down.

On 12/30/2018 9:03 PM, Kwork wrote:

Brian, out of curiosity, why do you not recommend fast startup to be checked?

Travis

On 12/30/2018 5:46 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
One can also enable/disable Hibernate under Power Options, /Choose what the power button does/ link, activating the /Change settings that are currently unavailable/ link, then checking/unchecking the Hibernate checkbox.

While you're in there uncheck the /Turn on Fast Startup (recommended)/ checkbox.

I turned the presentation of Hibernate in the Power menu back on at the same time that I turned Fast Startup off.
--

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*/A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep./*

          ~ Saul Bellow, /To Jerusalem and Back/


Re: Installing Windows 10

 

To be honest I'd never partition the system drive with 10 on it.

In fact the first thing I have done is wipe the system drive and install 10 on it.

Win10 eventually decided that my boot partition was full.

There were several small and big partitions made for system and swap, a recovery partition and a diagnostics and something else.

The cons of all this is that by just flat cleaning the entire structure you won't be able to access certain bios recovery features.

On the other side we can't access them so its not a big loss and you can run the diagnostics of that at least on windows yourself after a fashion.

If in doubt though I'd make a bios recovery in case you screwed things up or something during a reflash.

If you happen to be in the middle of a lightning strike zone well you are done.

If you must partition anything, I'd partition the secondary drive, since bar a few things windows will not load itself on to that drive at all.

On 12/31/2018 8:45 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I think the issue is actually invoking it from the drive.
I think I'd tend to do what I did when I had a brief encounter with 10, assuming masochistic tendencies of having an operating system that is new every 6 months, just burn a dvd, lots of cheap plug in drives around.
Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "molly the blind tech lover" <brainardmolly@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Installing Windows 10


Hi.

You could also download the windows media creation tool and create the windows installation media on a flash drive.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeffrey McFarland
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 10:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Installing Windows 10



What type of PC do you have? Different motherboards have different BIOS



On Sun, Dec 30, 2018, 9:37 AM farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@gmail.com <mailto:fahim.net.2014@gmail.com>  wrote:

I want to install Windows 10 in desktop. I have selected pendrive in boot priority of bios. But, when I'm turning on computer it is booting through harddisk and turning on as usual. How to boot by pendrive? I used Rufus to create bootable pendrive and burn iso file.










Re: NVDA elequence question

David Goldfield
 

Hi. This question may have already been addressed but you do have to purchase the software after or during the trial. It does not revert to freeware after the trial. You can purchase it from Codefactory or from ATguys.com.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 12/31/2018 9:22 AM, Darren Harris via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi all,

 

I have installed the code factory eloquence voice on my GPD win 2. I have 2 days left of the trial of eloquence. At the end of it, do I have to buy the eloquence voices? Or do they revert to a free version of eloquence? I have eloquence on my other machine but I never paid for that as it shipped with my laptop when I purchased it. So am not sure about this.

 

 


Re: NVDA elequence question

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

We had this discussion dozen of times in the past years and sometimes it ends up with somebody bosting a link to illigal software. I believe talking about cracks and illigal software belongs to other mailinglists and not to this NVDA related list.

Cheers and happy new year to all of you!!

Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Montag, 31. Dezember 2018 17:42
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA elequence question

Please help my understanding:


Why can I not talk about something that is illegal to buy, sell, or own? I can talk about anything else that I can think of; illegal or not. Just so long as I don't obtain it or offer it for sale. I think the sensors on many of these mailing lists are a bit too cautious. Is my thinkingg wrong?


Howard

On 12/31/2018 9:50 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Not really, There were sound alikes around that worked as sapi 4, but
they have issues, and there was a hacked version which was buggy which
we cannot discuss here for legal reasons.


Brian

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Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA elequence question


Wasn’t there a free version of it? I thought that there was?
On 31 Dec 2018, at 14:41, Chris via Groups.Io
<chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

You will have to pay for the code factory after the trial has
finished After the trial period it will work no more until a licence
is purchased


From: Darren Harris via Groups.Io
Sent: 31 December 2018 14:22
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA elequence question

Hi all,

I have installed the code factory eloquence voice on my GPD win 2. I
have 2 days left of the trial of eloquence. At the end of it, do I
have to buy the eloquence voices? Or do they revert to a free version
of eloquence? I have eloquence on my other machine but I never paid
for that as it shipped with my laptop when I purchased it. So am not
sure about this.










Re: Highbernating windows 10

 

Lino,

           Having or not having an optical drive (DVD/CD) really has no bearing on it since you are booting either from a HDD or SSD [unless you have a very idiosyncratic system the like of which I've never encountered].  In any case, I recommend that Fast Startup be turned off, period, for reasons I mentioned earlier.  

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Re: Highbernating windows 10

Lino Morales
 

So Bryan do you recommend not using fast startup with a regular ole optical drive which I have? I have it disabled and have had no problems when I need to restart. I have my PC sleep after 20 MINS every night.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 11:15:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Highbernating windows 10
 
On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 10:03 PM, Kwork wrote:
why do you not recommend fast startup to be checked?
There are a couple of reasons, the last of which is the most important:

1.  When one does a "shut down" on a system, what meaning does that generally carry?  Most people think shut off/down, completely, and starting from scratch when it is powered up again.  Fast startup directly violates that concept.

2.  It seems to me that it is completely backward that Restart causes a complete shutdown, sets a timer, and fires up the system from scratch while Shut Down does not.

3.  Fast Startup is a special form of Hibernation.  Under normal Hibernation both the operating system state and all user states are written out to disk and reloaded when the system is powered up again.  Fast Startup causes only the operating system state to be written out to disk in a special hibernation file and that is reloaded when the system is powered up again.  As this state gets written out, over, and over and over again over a span of days, weeks, and months there will be corruptions that occur in the hibernation file.  Almost invariably, at some point, a collection of little corruptions form a confluence where the entire system becomes unstable when it is restarted.  I have witnessed this on two occasions myself, and the behaviors displayed were so bizarre that I simply could not figure out what the cause was, initially.  Eventually, after a forced Restart rather that Shutdown/Power Up cycle, everything went back to normal.

I just cannot see how a few seconds to a minute or two of time saved at system start time is worth having to deal with the probability of this sort of problem.  All the more so if a system has an SSD as the OS drive rather than an HDD.  I would far rather have a complete, fresh, start where Windows 10 is loaded again from disk as it is when Restart is used than to have it come back from hibernation again and again.  This is all the more so since I do not power down my system frequently, preferring to allow Windows 10 to have the "inactive hours" to do the updates I delay it from doing if they get configured during active hours and require a system restart.

When I shut down a system I intend, and absolutely want, it to shut down.  I do not want it to hibernate the OS state.  If I want hibernation I will intentionally choose it, and I want the user state(s) to be saved, too.
 
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Re: NVDA elequence question

Chris
 

Nope, never has and probably never will

 

 

From: Darren Harris via Groups.Io
Sent: 31 December 2018 14:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA elequence question

 

Wasn’t there a free version of it? I thought that there was?


On 31 Dec 2018, at 14:41, Chris via Groups.Io <chrismedley@...> wrote:

You will have to pay for the code factory after the trial has finished

After the trial period it will work no more until a licence is purchased

 

 

From: Darren Harris via Groups.Io
Sent: 31 December 2018 14:22
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA elequence question

 

Hi all,

 

I have installed the code factory eloquence voice on my GPD win 2. I have 2 days left of the trial of eloquence. At the end of it, do I have to buy the eloquence voices? Or do they revert to a free version of eloquence? I have eloquence on my other machine but I never paid for that as it shipped with my laptop when I purchased it. So am not sure about this.

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA elequence question

Darren Harris
 

Well I certainly haven't gotten a hacked version of it. It's probably the sappy version which I assumed I could still get with the latest version of NVDA by that I mean a clean install.

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Sent: 31 December 2018 15:51
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA elequence question

Not really, There were sound alikes around that worked as sapi 4, but they have issues, and there was a hacked version which was buggy which we cannot discuss here for legal reasons.


Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA elequence question


Wasn’t there a free version of it? I thought that there was?
On 31 Dec 2018, at 14:41, Chris via Groups.Io
<chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

You will have to pay for the code factory after the trial has finished
After the trial period it will work no more until a licence is purchased


From: Darren Harris via Groups.Io
Sent: 31 December 2018 14:22
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA elequence question

Hi all,

I have installed the code factory eloquence voice on my GPD win 2. I have
2 days left of the trial of eloquence. At the end of it, do I have to buy
the eloquence voices? Or do they revert to a free version of eloquence? I
have eloquence on my other machine but I never paid for that as it shipped
with my laptop when I purchased it. So am not sure about this.




Re: mariana islands

Brice Mijares
 

Thanks Brian for the info, I will check this out some time this week.

On 12/31/2018 9:04 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Brice,
            You do not have to make any registry changes.  If you just download additional languages the OneCore voices come right along with them (provided that they are languages that support text-to-speech, some don't).
             Of course, it's pretty clear that adding the language packs results in registry changes, but those are part and parcel of Windows installing those languages itself.  It is not manual.
--
Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
*/A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep./*
          ~ Saul Bellow, /To Jerusalem and Back/


Re: NVDA elequence question

Howard Traxler <howard@...>
 

Agree, Gene; however, (and I won't waste any more space on this) I know I can't commit slander or libel or promote crime.  But if I were on an automotive list of some kind, I could ask a technical question relating to a vehicle in my garage that I didn't pay for.


That's all; I'm through. 

On 12/31/2018 11:06 AM, Gene wrote:
If a list allows such discussions, it is opened to legal liability.  It is illegal to use such programs.  Promoting their use is illegal and lists that allow it may be shut down by the owner of whatever list serve the list is on and, though very unlikely, the list could have legal action taken against it by the owner of whatever intellectual property is being used illegally.
 
And you can't discuss anything or say anything you want anywhere.  You can't commit slander or libel.  You can't use speech to provoke violence. 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA elequence question

Please help my understanding:


Why can I not talk about something that is illegal to buy, sell, or
own?  I can talk about anything else that I can think of; illegal or
not.  Just so long as I don't obtain it or offer it for sale.  I think
the sensors on many of these mailing lists are a bit too cautious.  Is
my thinkingg wrong?


Howard

On 12/31/2018 9:50 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> Not really, There were sound alikes around that  worked as sapi 4, but
> they have issues, and there was a hacked version which was buggy which
> we cannot discuss here for legal reasons.
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Harris via Groups.Io"
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> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 2:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA elequence question
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> Wasn’t there a free version of it? I thought that there was?
>> On 31 Dec 2018, at 14:41, Chris via Groups.Io
>> <chrismedley@...> wrote:
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>> You will have to pay for the code factory after the trial has finished
>> After the trial period it will work no more until a licence is purchased
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>> From: Darren Harris via Groups.Io
>> Sent: 31 December 2018 14:22
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] NVDA elequence question
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>> Hi all,
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>> I have installed the code factory eloquence voice on my GPD win 2. I
>> have 2 days left of the trial of eloquence. At the end of it, do I
>> have to buy the eloquence voices? Or do they revert to a free version
>> of eloquence? I have eloquence on my other machine but I never paid
>> for that as it shipped with my laptop when I purchased it. So am not
>> sure about this.
>>
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