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Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

 

Hi,

Yep, it’ll be in the afternoon New Zealand time.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 8:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #AddonRelease

 

then i have a long time to wait like 19 or 20 hour then?

 

Gene nz

 

On 31/12/2018 5:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

No – it is based on UTC, not midnight local time.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 8:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #AddonRelease

 

Hi joseph

 

I guess i will see it before the others then as long as i am still awake if not the smart speaker is set to let me know.

 

Gene nz

 

On 31/12/2018 4:01 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

Happy New Year (or New Year’s Eve depending on where you are).

 

Sometime in 2019 (few seconds after midnight UTC on January 1, 2019 to be exact), Add-on Updater 19.01.1 will make its appearance on any computer running NVDA with this add-on installed. Although this is a point release, it is a major release that resolves more compatibility issues with Python 3 and simplifies certain portions of this add-on source code. You will also find a surprise inside (shhh, you’ll see it after upgrading to that version).

 

Cheers,

Joseph

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

then i have a long time to wait like 19 or 20 hour then?


Gene nz


On 31/12/2018 5:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

No – it is based on UTC, not midnight local time.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 8:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #AddonRelease

 

Hi joseph

 

I guess i will see it before the others then as long as i am still awake if not the smart speaker is set to let me know.

 

Gene nz

 

On 31/12/2018 4:01 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

Happy New Year (or New Year’s Eve depending on where you are).

 

Sometime in 2019 (few seconds after midnight UTC on January 1, 2019 to be exact), Add-on Updater 19.01.1 will make its appearance on any computer running NVDA with this add-on installed. Although this is a point release, it is a major release that resolves more compatibility issues with Python 3 and simplifies certain portions of this add-on source code. You will also find a surprise inside (shhh, you’ll see it after upgrading to that version).

 

Cheers,

Joseph

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

 

Hi,

No – it is based on UTC, not midnight local time.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 8:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #AddonRelease

 

Hi joseph

 

I guess i will see it before the others then as long as i am still awake if not the smart speaker is set to let me know.

 

Gene nz

 

On 31/12/2018 4:01 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

Happy New Year (or New Year’s Eve depending on where you are).

 

Sometime in 2019 (few seconds after midnight UTC on January 1, 2019 to be exact), Add-on Updater 19.01.1 will make its appearance on any computer running NVDA with this add-on installed. Although this is a point release, it is a major release that resolves more compatibility issues with Python 3 and simplifies certain portions of this add-on source code. You will also find a surprise inside (shhh, you’ll see it after upgrading to that version).

 

Cheers,

Joseph

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


NVDA Winamp question

Charles Adkins
 

I would like to figure out a way to have NVDA read the volume percentage when using the up and down keys to change the output volume. I have never written anything like this but would like to try. Where might I get information on how to do this task?

Thanks so much in advance for all help.

Sent from my iPhone if by chance in the day already does this I am on aware of it, and I apologize for my lack of knowledge.


Re: Highbernating windows 10

 

On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 10:03 PM, Kwork wrote:
why do you not recommend fast startup to be checked?
There are a couple of reasons, the last of which is the most important:

1.  When one does a "shut down" on a system, what meaning does that generally carry?  Most people think shut off/down, completely, and starting from scratch when it is powered up again.  Fast startup directly violates that concept.

2.  It seems to me that it is completely backward that Restart causes a complete shutdown, sets a timer, and fires up the system from scratch while Shut Down does not.

3.  Fast Startup is a special form of Hibernation.  Under normal Hibernation both the operating system state and all user states are written out to disk and reloaded when the system is powered up again.  Fast Startup causes only the operating system state to be written out to disk in a special hibernation file and that is reloaded when the system is powered up again.  As this state gets written out, over, and over and over again over a span of days, weeks, and months there will be corruptions that occur in the hibernation file.  Almost invariably, at some point, a collection of little corruptions form a confluence where the entire system becomes unstable when it is restarted.  I have witnessed this on two occasions myself, and the behaviors displayed were so bizarre that I simply could not figure out what the cause was, initially.  Eventually, after a forced Restart rather that Shutdown/Power Up cycle, everything went back to normal.

I just cannot see how a few seconds to a minute or two of time saved at system start time is worth having to deal with the probability of this sort of problem.  All the more so if a system has an SSD as the OS drive rather than an HDD.  I would far rather have a complete, fresh, start where Windows 10 is loaded again from disk as it is when Restart is used than to have it come back from hibernation again and again.  This is all the more so since I do not power down my system frequently, preferring to allow Windows 10 to have the "inactive hours" to do the updates I delay it from doing if they get configured during active hours and require a system restart.

When I shut down a system I intend, and absolutely want, it to shut down.  I do not want it to hibernate the OS state.  If I want hibernation I will intentionally choose it, and I want the user state(s) to be saved, too.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi joseph


I guess i will see it before the others then as long as i am still awake if not the smart speaker is set to let me know.


Gene nz


On 31/12/2018 4:01 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

Happy New Year (or New Year’s Eve depending on where you are).

 

Sometime in 2019 (few seconds after midnight UTC on January 1, 2019 to be exact), Add-on Updater 19.01.1 will make its appearance on any computer running NVDA with this add-on installed. Although this is a point release, it is a major release that resolves more compatibility issues with Python 3 and simplifies certain portions of this add-on source code. You will also find a surprise inside (shhh, you’ll see it after upgrading to that version).

 

Cheers,

Joseph

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: an accessible way to stream games.

Sarah k Alawami
 

I actually tried this and it never broadcasted to mixer. I'ma. bit confused by this. I just use restream and obs studuio.

On 30 Dec 2018, at 19:30, Robert Kingett wrote:

I found an accessible way to stream games, for anybody interested, and who has a windows 10 machine. I just tried it, Mixer, and it is far more accessible than Twitch. And, the video capture is pretty good. Not the best, but if you are on a budget, it is the most accessible option you are gonna get for now. I tried it on Ear Hockey just now and it works great! well, okay, it works passingly so, sound quality wise, but then again, I make money writing, not streaming. Anyway, below are the steps. Make sure you have the latest version of windows 10. No, I never found a keyboard friendly user guide, so don't ask. If I find one, I will post it on my blog with a more formal write-up. The settings can be found under, gaming, in windows settings.


1. Run a game. It seems to only work for windows app games, but correct me if I am wrong.

2. Hit, Windows, G, as in Gay, to bring up the games panel. Or, hit, windows, Alt, R, to start recording.

3. When you are done, hit Windows, alt, R, to stop recording.


I'd advise you to set everything up before hand. Also, don't try and keep up with the chat when you are broadcasting. NVDA will freeze. I'm gonna look to see if I can't connect to the chat via IRC and just have TTS reading stuff as they come in in the background.


Much more accessible than Twitch. IMO.


an accessible way to stream games.

 

I found an accessible way to stream games, for anybody interested, and who has a windows 10 machine. I just tried it, Mixer, and it is far more accessible than Twitch. And, the video capture is pretty good. Not the best, but if you are on a budget, it is the most accessible option you are gonna get for now. I tried it on Ear Hockey just now and it works great! well, okay, it works passingly so, sound quality wise, but then again, I make money writing, not streaming. Anyway, below are the steps. Make sure you have the latest version of windows 10. No, I never found a keyboard friendly user guide, so don't ask. If I find one, I will post it on my blog with a more formal write-up. The settings can be found under, gaming, in windows settings.


1. Run a game. It seems to only work for windows app games, but correct me if I am wrong.

2. Hit, Windows, G, as in Gay, to bring up the games panel. Or, hit, windows, Alt, R, to start recording.

3. When you are done, hit Windows, alt, R, to stop recording.


I'd advise you to set everything up before hand. Also, don't try and keep up with the chat when you are broadcasting. NVDA will freeze. I'm gonna look to see if I can't connect to the chat via IRC and just have TTS reading stuff as they come in in the background.


Much more accessible than Twitch. IMO.


Re: Highbernating windows 10

Kwork
 

Brian, out of curiosity, why do you not recommend fast startup to be checked?

Travis

On 12/30/2018 5:46 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
One can also enable/disable Hibernate under Power Options, Choose what the power button does link, activating the Change settings that are currently unavailable link, then checking/unchecking the Hibernate checkbox.

While you're in there uncheck the Turn on Fast Startup (recommended) checkbox.

I turned the presentation of Hibernate in the Power menu back on at the same time that I turned Fast Startup off.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

 

Hi everyone,

 

Happy New Year (or New Year’s Eve depending on where you are).

 

Sometime in 2019 (few seconds after midnight UTC on January 1, 2019 to be exact), Add-on Updater 19.01.1 will make its appearance on any computer running NVDA with this add-on installed. Although this is a point release, it is a major release that resolves more compatibility issues with Python 3 and simplifies certain portions of this add-on source code. You will also find a surprise inside (shhh, you’ll see it after upgrading to that version).

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Highbernating windows 10

 

One can also enable/disable Hibernate under Power Options, Choose what the power button does link, activating the Change settings that are currently unavailable link, then checking/unchecking the Hibernate checkbox.

While you're in there uncheck the Turn on Fast Startup (recommended) checkbox.

I turned the presentation of Hibernate in the Power menu back on at the same time that I turned Fast Startup off.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Issues with dropbox.

Richard Bartholomew
 

As well as being a root and branch approach, uninstalling Dropbox from the desktop is no good if you’re sharing folders with multiple people and it’s only one you want to stop sharing with!  As you say, deleting the share the clean and proper way is the desired method.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 30 December 2018 20:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues with dropbox.

 

That is an extreme solution and it is exceedingly inconvenient to use Dropbox from the web site. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 2:06 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues with dropbox.

 

Hello John,

I believe you have the Dropbox Desktop app installed. It runs at the background and syncs your local folder with the cloud.

I suggest you uninstall Dropbox Desktop and reboot your PC. Without the Dropbox Desktop running in the background anymore, you are no longer automatically signed into Dropbox. You can safely delete your local Dropbox folder without affecting whatever is stored in the cloud.  

--
Desert


Re: Issues with dropbox.

Gene
 

I'm not sure how that would affect what you do.  I suspect that means you can't upload any files with that computer to Dropbox until sync is turned back on.  And I suspect that if you delete files, Dropbox won't know about it. 
 
Whatever the case, whether I'm right or not, Why hnot learn the right way to do this, which will work and will have no other possible unwanted effects.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues with dropbox.

Hello,
Just adding some thoughts: Would the pause sync function not works fine too in this case? That's what I do and so far so good, it is serving me perfectly.
Em 30/12/2018 18:06, Desert Moon via Groups.Io escreveu:
Hello John,

I believe you have the Dropbox Desktop app installed. It runs at the background and syncs your local folder with the cloud.

I suggest you uninstall Dropbox Desktop and reboot your PC. Without the Dropbox Desktop running in the background anymore, you are no longer automatically signed into Dropbox. You can safely delete your local Dropbox folder without affecting whatever is stored in the cloud.  

--
Desert


Re: Issues with dropbox.

 

Hello,
Just adding some thoughts: Would the pause sync function not works fine too in this case? That's what I do and so far so good, it is serving me perfectly.
Em 30/12/2018 18:06, Desert Moon via Groups.Io escreveu:

Hello John,

I believe you have the Dropbox Desktop app installed. It runs at the background and syncs your local folder with the cloud.

I suggest you uninstall Dropbox Desktop and reboot your PC. Without the Dropbox Desktop running in the background anymore, you are no longer automatically signed into Dropbox. You can safely delete your local Dropbox folder without affecting whatever is stored in the cloud.  

--
Desert


Re: Issues with dropbox.

Gene
 

That is an extreme solution and it is exceedingly inconvenient to use Dropbox from the web site. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues with dropbox.

Hello John,

I believe you have the Dropbox Desktop app installed. It runs at the background and syncs your local folder with the cloud.

I suggest you uninstall Dropbox Desktop and reboot your PC. Without the Dropbox Desktop running in the background anymore, you are no longer automatically signed into Dropbox. You can safely delete your local Dropbox folder without affecting whatever is stored in the cloud.  

--
Desert


Re: mariana islands

 

Brice,

            I had not seen your observation about Cuban Peso before offering my own.   I'm also not getting the Marianas Islands bit with NVDA and the OneCore Voices synthesizer and Microsoft James (the British male voice).  He reads M P 3 regardless of whether there's a track number or not.

            I'd still wonder about the logic, in this day and age, of designing anything to interpret MP as anything until or unless the character following the P has already been checked.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: mariana islands

 

On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 09:46 AM, Ann Byrne wrote:
According to Google, the abbreviation for Northern Mariana Islands is mp. So NVDA is interpreting for you. Ugh!
Well, some guess, or lack thereof, has to be hazarded.   That being said, you'd think that if they saw MP they'd check to see if it's immediately followed by 3, with no intervening space, before going for "Mariana Islands".

The way I've worked around this is by updating either the default dictionary or voice dictionary (I honestly can't remember which at the moment).  NVDA+N,P,D will get you there then hit D for default dictionary or V.  In the case of MP3 that would be the actual pattern, I'd try "M P 3" as the substitution, sans the quotes, and the anywhere option for my first pass.  I wonder if using a British English synthesizer one might get "Member of Parliament" instead of Marianas Islands?

I had this coming up once, but I think it was under JAWS, where it was saying Cuban Peso when it saw CUP in upper case, which in the context of recipes, among other things, is wrong.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Issues with dropbox.

Desert Moon
 

Hello John,

I believe you have the Dropbox Desktop app installed. It runs at the background and syncs your local folder with the cloud.

I suggest you uninstall Dropbox Desktop and reboot your PC. Without the Dropbox Desktop running in the background anymore, you are no longer automatically signed into Dropbox. You can safely delete your local Dropbox folder without affecting whatever is stored in the cloud.  

--
Desert


Re: Looking for an accessible CD or DVD database

Desert Moon
 

Hello Rick,

Here is a list of four free music organizers:

https://www.lifewire.com/free-music-management-tools-for-organizing-your-mp3s-2438774

The first software has received positive reviews from other sites.

I have not used any of the organizers, and thus unable to comment on their accessibility. 

--
Desert


Patreon accessibility feedback?

 

This has been really hard work in the making, but Patreon has finally agreed to do structured negotiations with me. I'm not sure what I can and can't talk about so I'll just leave it at that. Anyway, I've made my own list for later consulting, but does anybody else have any accessibility enhancements, code wise especially, think they should make? I'm supposed to be presenting this in 2019. And I want to make sure I synthesize it all into a good presentation. I deserve coffee. LOL! Anyway, reply to me off list or at my website, below. Oh, and, I've made some accessibility enhancements to my own website! Anyway, cheers. I even found an HTML only version of my Google Calendar to link to, which took some messing around with. Anyway, my website link is below if you need to find my email.


http://www.blindjournalist.wordpress.com