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Re: how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

MAX <max@...>
 

So are you saying that these ads at the end of Sue’s messages are not appearing to you?  It makes a big difference to me whether they are being attached by Sue’s email provider or they are being attached by my computer as they arrive in my inbox.  Please be clear.  I’d like to hear from Sue on this.  Do you see ads at the end of your messages when they return to you through the list.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 7:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

It sounds suspiciously to me as though you have AdWare on your machine which is causing popups to appear when they shouldn't be.  do popups keep coming up as you browse?  do they come up when you are not browsing as well, when the browser is closed? 

 

It appears the advertising in the message you are discussing comes from Juno.com.  I didn't know they were still around but I just looked up the site and it is.  These appear to be commercials Juno is placing in the e-mail from third party advertisers. 

 

I doubt that you being signed into Chrome would cause such popups.  I never signed into Chrome so I doubt it but I don't know it. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 7:12 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

Did anyone else see that tag on Sue's message?  It began quote, One Cup of This (Before Bed), end quote.  That's the same as one of the popups I was getting with google chrome.


73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sue J. Ward
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 3:29 PM
To: nvda groups <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Hello. Everyone. Thanks for your help and the Dropbox download. Do you know what is the official website for the virtual recorder program? Well I did finally figured it out based on playing with audacity for a half hour. I do have everything set correctly and if I want to hear what I have recorded through the computer I have to unplug everything from the sound card since my desktop PC does have an internal speaker. I did turn it down so it is not too loud so I can hear what I am recording and don't have to bother other people after I am done I do play it back it sounds great. I am going to get a second computer and see how that goes since on that one am going to put games on that machine and maybe some audio editing software. I think whatever works for the certain person depending what they want to do there are a lot of options out there. So just thought I would give an update.
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Re: how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

MAX <max@...>
 

Hmmm.  As I reflect on it that seems to be what I did.  There’s no point in worrying about that now.  The program is installed and working.  As some old guy once said, all’s well that ends well.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 7:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

I don't know how you unzip files.  if you do it properly, you should have a completely new folder, separate from the zip file, with all the files in it.  It doesn't sound to me as though you did that.  It sounds to me as though you opened the archive and ran the exe file from inside of the archive. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 7:03 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

After I downloaded and ran the zip file I had the unzipping program on my screen.  I pressed the extract button.  That showed the virtual recorder.exe file.  When I ran it I got the recorder dialog on the screen but I could only use it once because after I closed everything I couldn’t find the exe file again.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 2:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

Since the link to the installed version came from the same site, this was, presumably, an installed version modified by Carlos.  I didn't recall there being one so whatever I may have said was regarding the version direct from the developer which evidently has accessibility problems.

 

As far as portable programs are concerned, I don't know why you had problems with the portable program but I prefer to use portable versions of programs when available.  Did you unzip the program before using it?  For those trying this or other portable programs who haven't used them before, if they come as a zip file, you must unzip the program before using it. 

 

I generally prefer to use portable programs if available.  For one thing, they are portable.  I can simply copy the folder onto a thumb drive and place a copy onto another computer if I want to use it there.  No changes are made to the system.  I always use portable versions of firefox because if the copy I'm using becomes corrupted, I can keep a backup copy of the program and simply replace the corrupted program with a copy of the backup program.  I don't have to worry about maintenance or creating a new profile or anything else.  And, as I said, I can copy it to another computer when I wish.

 

In this case, there may be one or more available features in the installed version so someone might wat to use the installed version.  I don't know what those features might be and they aren't important to me because the portable version does everything I want.  I suspect that if there are more available features they would be something minor such as being able to specify where files are saved.

 

Gene

----- Original message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 1:11 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

Now that’s more like it.  It was the usual install experience with location, start menu, and desk top icon.  You scared me off from the installed version with all that talk about bugs.  I did a little recording and I could find the files and play them back.  Ten minutes after two and all is well.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 11:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

I sent two links yesterday, one for each version.  Here is the message I sent last night:

 

Gene


Here is a link to the portable version of the program which is still available from the site where Carlos hosted useful resources.  The vollunteer who hosted the programs for Carlos is still doing so.
http://opopanax.net/download/Virtual_Recorder_Portable.zip
Presumably, this is the latest version.

 

There is an installable version, also, I assume, modified by Carlos.  I don't know if the installable version does anything the portable version doesn't do.  Perhaps it allows you to specify where you want files saved. 

 

Also, because of the problems a user reported with the installed version, presumably from the developer's site, it may be that some people have problems with the installed version that won't with the portable. version

 

Here is the link for the installable version from the same site:
http://opopanax.net/download/Setup_VirtualRecorder.exe

 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: MAX

Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 11:03 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

How do I, or anyone for that matter, tell the difference between the install and the noninstall versions.  I get it.  The noninstall version just copies the files but doesn't register the program with windows.  That must have been the one I downloaded.  I have dumped the message with the URL so will someone please send me a good URL?


73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 4:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Hi
Are you sure you ran the install version?  There is a non-install version as well which I gave up on because Windows Defender kept moving it into quarantine.  Under W10, I downloaded and installed the install version and have been using it without problems.  The installed version definitely shows up in the list of installed programs, and creates a desktop item.  You are better using the install version anyway as some of the features cannot be used in the non-install version.

Cheers
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of MAX
Sent: 4 January 2019 21:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Well, I'll bet lots of others are having the same problem but nobody wants to be the first.  OK, I'll be that person.  The virtual recorder install program didn't create an entry in the start menu or a desk top icon or an icon in the applications bar as mentioned in the readme file.  I tried to start it with the command line but that has been changed and I don't know how to access it anymore.  When I had it running after the installation I made a test recording but the directory where it said it put the recording doesn't show up in windows explorer.  Maybe I should forget it and find another program.


73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Yes but virtual recorder does not involve fiddling with sound card settings and is free so you can use the editor of choice.
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From: "Robert Doc Wright godfearer" <godfearer@...>
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Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 6:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.


> Goldwave would be your best bet. In its microphone section it has a
> loopback feature that will allow you to point it to your sound card
> and record from it.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sue J. Ward" <groovy41@...>
> To: "nvda groups" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 9:11 PM
> Subject: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic
> plugged in sure could use some help.
>
>
>>  Hello. Does anyone know of any audio recording software that works
>> with NVDA with no mic attached to the computer? I want to record a
>> lot of internal stuff from my computer with no mic attached. I have
>> tried audacity with everything they suggested when reading the user
>> guide to make it work no such luck since am using windows 10. Lets
>> just say if I want to record a radio station or anything from my
>> computer what type of program could I use with NVDA? I have heard of
>> total recorder and gold wave would those programs work since I do
>> have everything up to date and I did check in the recording section
>> and I have no stereo mics on my sound card. Have any of you used
>> sound tap or any apps with in the app store to get anything to work
>> with NVDA? I have tried everything with the line in jack nothing. Or
>> maybe I am not setting it up right. Any suggestions would be excellent. Thank you.
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Re: Spacebar Activates a Link While in Browse Mode

Felix G.
 

Hi,
in browse mode, space bar activates the current object within the
document. For a link this happens to be equivalent to following it.
It's just the way NVDA defines it.
Best,
Felix

Am So., 6. Jan. 2019 um 15:03 Uhr schrieb Gene <gsasner@gmail.com>:


There may be a technical reason but enter is the documented command for both screen-readers. If you use undocumented commands they may or may not work as expected in different situations. It's an interesting technical question why using space works but it isn't a good idea to use space instead of enter for following links. Another reason for this is that enter is the command to follow a link when in forms mode. If you get in the habit of using space in browse mode, which doesn't work in forms mode, you may forget and have problems. At times, in order to successfully follow a link, you have to switch to forms mode and then follow it. It's better to use the one command intended for both uses.

Also, if people use the links list, space doesn't follow the link.

Gene
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Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2019 7:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spacebar Activates a Link While in Browse Mode

For comparison, I fired up Jaws 2018 and it too activates certain links with
the space bar as well as enter, so I see this as a commonplace thing. Say
what you will about Jaws, it is supposedly the standard for corporate and
people in work, and if it also has this action then it has to be for a
reason.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2019 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spacebar Activates a Link While in Browse Mode


I don't know why the space bar activates links, nor do I know if it does in
all cases. It isn't the documented command so you can't be sure it will
work in all intended cases.

When you are in forms mode, you are interacting directly with the browser.
Any commands you give will do what they would do if no screen-reader were
present. When you are in browse mode, you are interacting with your
screen-reader and commands are routed through the screen-reader.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: bestuiexperience
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 10:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Spacebar Activates a Link While in Browse Mode


Hello, I noticed that while in "browse" mode while focus is on a link, if I
press the space bar, instead of the page scrolling down (as usually occurs
when the space bar is pressed on a web page), the link is activated as it
would be had I pressed the Enter key. This does not happen when I am in
"forms" mode. Does anyone know why this occurs?







Re: Java accessibility

Isaac Porat
 

Hi


I did not use this particular IDE but used Eclipse and more recently AndroidStudio both also written in Java.

I did not use Jaws for some years but at the time Java support was very poor, NVDA support is much better.

As long as you have Java installed the Java access bridge comes with it, no need to install it separately.

Sometimes for some reason it is not activated and needs to be activated manually.


Unlike the poor advice given in another message, the java updater places a message on the tray when a new version is available and if you need java, always update.

None of the browser need Java they are mostly written in C / C++.

The various security risks when running Java in the browser where fixed  few years ago and if I am not mistaken from Java version 9 add ons are not supported anymore.


Regards

Isaac

On 05/01/2019 16:50, MAX wrote:
My only brush with Java is in the Arduino I D E (integrated development environment, Jaws will not read it. Even after installing Java access bridge. After switching over to NVDA I found that it would. I did not uninstall Java access bridge so I must assume it is still on my computer.



73 (Regards).


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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 12:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Java accessibility


Haven't used Java applications in a long time, but i seem to recall that you need to install a program called Java Access Bridge, which facilitates interaction between java and screen readers.


Andy


----- Original Message -----

From: farhan israk <mailto:fahim.net.2014@gmail.com>

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 10:43 PM

Subject: [nvda] Java accessibility


I want to learn java. For this reason I installed jdk and intelliJ ide. But,after opening intelliJ ide, I'm not able to navigate. If I press tab or aero keys nvda doesn't say anything. Got same result with object navigation. Nvda doesn't say anything. Now, what can I do?






Re: Spacebar Activates a Link While in Browse Mode

Gene
 

There may be a technical reason but enter is the documented command for both screen-readers.  If you use undocumented commands they may or may not work as expected in different situations.  It's an interesting technical question why using space works but it isn't a good idea to use space instead of enter for following links.  Another reason for this is that enter is the command to follow a link when in forms mode.  If you get in the habit of using space in browse mode, which doesn't work in forms mode, you may forget and have problems.  At times, in order to successfully follow a link, you have to switch to forms mode and then follow it.  It's better to use the one command intended for both uses.
 
Also, if people use the links list, space doesn't follow the link.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2019 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spacebar Activates a Link While in Browse Mode

For comparison, I fired up Jaws 2018 and it too activates certain links with
the space bar as well as enter, so I see this as a commonplace thing. Say
what you will about Jaws, it is supposedly the standard for corporate and
people in work, and if it also has this action then it has to be for a
reason.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2019 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spacebar Activates a Link While in Browse Mode


I don't know why the space bar activates links, nor do I know if it does in
all cases.  It isn't the documented command so you can't be sure it will
work in all intended cases.

When you are in forms mode, you are interacting directly with the browser.
Any commands you give will do what they would do if no screen-reader were
present.  When you are in browse mode, you are interacting with your
screen-reader and commands are routed through the screen-reader.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: bestuiexperience
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 10:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Spacebar Activates a Link While in Browse Mode


Hello, I noticed that while in "browse" mode while focus is on a link, if I
press the space bar, instead of the page scrolling down (as usually occurs
when the space bar is pressed on a web page), the link is activated as it
would be had I pressed the Enter key. This does not happen when I am in
"forms" mode. Does anyone know why this occurs?







Re: Spacebar Activates a Link While in Browse Mode

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For comparison, I fired up Jaws 2018 and it too activates certain links with the space bar as well as enter, so I see this as a commonplace thing. Say what you will about Jaws, it is supposedly the standard for corporate and people in work, and if it also has this action then it has to be for a reason.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2019 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spacebar Activates a Link While in Browse Mode


I don't know why the space bar activates links, nor do I know if it does in all cases. It isn't the documented command so you can't be sure it will work in all intended cases.

When you are in forms mode, you are interacting directly with the browser. Any commands you give will do what they would do if no screen-reader were present. When you are in browse mode, you are interacting with your screen-reader and commands are routed through the screen-reader.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: bestuiexperience
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 10:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Spacebar Activates a Link While in Browse Mode


Hello, I noticed that while in "browse" mode while focus is on a link, if I press the space bar, instead of the page scrolling down (as usually occurs when the space bar is pressed on a web page), the link is activated as it would be had I pressed the Enter key. This does not happen when I am in "forms" mode. Does anyone know why this occurs?


Re: how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Max

If you downloaded to the Downloads folder, it will probably have created a folder of the same name without the .zip extension in the Downloads folder.  To open the downloads folder, press Windows+r, type “downloads” (without the quotes, then press enter.  

 

This will open File explorer, you should find the folder in there.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of MAX
Sent: 6 January 2019 01:03
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

After I downloaded and ran the zip file I had the unzipping program on my screen.  I pressed the extract button.  That showed the virtual recorder.exe file.  When I ran it I got the recorder dialog on the screen but I could only use it once because after I closed everything I couldn’t find the exe file again.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 2:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

Since the link to the installed version came from the same site, this was, presumably, an installed version modified by Carlos.  I didn't recall there being one so whatever I may have said was regarding the version direct from the developer which evidently has accessibility problems.

 

As far as portable programs are concerned, I don't know why you had problems with the portable program but I prefer to use portable versions of programs when available.  Did you unzip the program before using it?  For those trying this or other portable programs who haven't used them before, if they come as a zip file, you must unzip the program before using it. 

 

I generally prefer to use portable programs if available.  For one thing, they are portable.  I can simply copy the folder onto a thumb drive and place a copy onto another computer if I want to use it there.  No changes are made to the system.  I always use portable versions of firefox because if the copy I'm using becomes corrupted, I can keep a backup copy of the program and simply replace the corrupted program with a copy of the backup program.  I don't have to worry about maintenance or creating a new profile or anything else.  And, as I said, I can copy it to another computer when I wish.

 

In this case, there may be one or more available features in the installed version so someone might wat to use the installed version.  I don't know what those features might be and they aren't important to me because the portable version does everything I want.  I suspect that if there are more available features they would be something minor such as being able to specify where files are saved.

 

Gene

----- Original message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 1:11 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

Now that’s more like it.  It was the usual install experience with location, start menu, and desk top icon.  You scared me off from the installed version with all that talk about bugs.  I did a little recording and I could find the files and play them back.  Ten minutes after two and all is well.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 11:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

I sent two links yesterday, one for each version.  Here is the message I sent last night:

 

Gene


Here is a link to the portable version of the program which is still available from the site where Carlos hosted useful resources.  The vollunteer who hosted the programs for Carlos is still doing so.
http://opopanax.net/download/Virtual_Recorder_Portable.zip
Presumably, this is the latest version.

 

There is an installable version, also, I assume, modified by Carlos.  I don't know if the installable version does anything the portable version doesn't do.  Perhaps it allows you to specify where you want files saved. 

 

Also, because of the problems a user reported with the installed version, presumably from the developer's site, it may be that some people have problems with the installed version that won't with the portable. version

 

Here is the link for the installable version from the same site:
http://opopanax.net/download/Setup_VirtualRecorder.exe

 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: MAX

Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 11:03 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

How do I, or anyone for that matter, tell the difference between the install and the noninstall versions.  I get it.  The noninstall version just copies the files but doesn't register the program with windows.  That must have been the one I downloaded.  I have dumped the message with the URL so will someone please send me a good URL?


73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/


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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 4:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Hi
Are you sure you ran the install version?  There is a non-install version as well which I gave up on because Windows Defender kept moving it into quarantine.  Under W10, I downloaded and installed the install version and have been using it without problems.  The installed version definitely shows up in the list of installed programs, and creates a desktop item.  You are better using the install version anyway as some of the features cannot be used in the non-install version.

Cheers
Chris
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of MAX
Sent: 4 January 2019 21:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Well, I'll bet lots of others are having the same problem but nobody wants to be the first.  OK, I'll be that person.  The virtual recorder install program didn't create an entry in the start menu or a desk top icon or an icon in the applications bar as mentioned in the readme file.  I tried to start it with the command line but that has been changed and I don't know how to access it anymore.  When I had it running after the installation I made a test recording but the directory where it said it put the recording doesn't show up in windows explorer.  Maybe I should forget it and find another program.


73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

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Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/



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Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:28 AM
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Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Yes but virtual recorder does not involve fiddling with sound card settings and is free so you can use the editor of choice.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Doc Wright godfearer" <godfearer@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 6:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.


> Goldwave would be your best bet. In its microphone section it has a
> loopback feature that will allow you to point it to your sound card
> and record from it.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sue J. Ward" <groovy41@...>
> To: "nvda groups" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 9:11 PM
> Subject: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic
> plugged in sure could use some help.
>
>
>>  Hello. Does anyone know of any audio recording software that works
>> with NVDA with no mic attached to the computer? I want to record a
>> lot of internal stuff from my computer with no mic attached. I have
>> tried audacity with everything they suggested when reading the user
>> guide to make it work no such luck since am using windows 10. Lets
>> just say if I want to record a radio station or anything from my
>> computer what type of program could I use with NVDA? I have heard of
>> total recorder and gold wave would those programs work since I do
>> have everything up to date and I did check in the recording section
>> and I have no stereo mics on my sound card. Have any of you used
>> sound tap or any apps with in the app store to get anything to work
>> with NVDA? I have tried everything with the line in jack nothing. Or
>> maybe I am not setting it up right. Any suggestions would be excellent. Thank you.
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Re: Spacebar Activates a Link While in Browse Mode

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It always has been this way as far as I can tell.
As has been said in this thread, what happens in browse mode is set by the screenreader.
You will find if like me you have the 3D sounds on that the link is different in some cases and it is these that work also with the space bar from what I can tell. This is in waterfox but I'm pretty sure its on other browsers to, so there may be a subtle difference between enter and space on where you end up and the action taken depending on the link in question.
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From: "bestuiexperience" <bestuiexperience@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2019 4:31 AM
Subject: [nvda] Spacebar Activates a Link While in Browse Mode


Hello, I noticed that while in "browse" mode while focus is on a link, if I press the space bar, instead of the page scrolling down (as usually occurs when the space bar is pressed on a web page), the link is activated as it would be had I pressed the Enter key. This does not happen when I am in "forms" mode. Does anyone know why this occurs?


Re: NVDA on RCA tablet and the desktop

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Yes a very tonka toy option that. If you have a very slow machine and keep selecting the wrong item in explorer it can be useful so you know what is going to be copied or deleted, but on modern hardware I do not really understand the reason for having it. It just adds another click to everybody's day every time!
I guess on the desktop you could use it to make launching things a bit less knee jerk for those click everything types that keep on downloading stuff that screws stuff up but really...
Its been around at least in Windows 7.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Aman Singer" <aman.singer@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2019 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA on RCA tablet and the desktop


Hi,



In Windows 10’s Windows Explorer, it may be worth hitting alt, then f, then o. This is to get to the folder options dialog, alt+t then o in Windows 7. Then ctrl+tab to “view”, then tab to the tree of options and hit u until you hear “use checkboxes to select items” or something like that. If that’s on, hit space to turn it off and hit OK. On my machines,, this clears up this issue for all folders.

HTH,

Aman



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Wells
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 10:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA on RCA tablet and the desktop



I am using a Dell SPX and am hearing the same thing. I would love to know the answer as well.

On 1/5/2019 8:54 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

Hi,

I got NVDA set up on my new tablet. My RCA cambio with intel atom z8350 processor. But on the desktop NVDA keeps showing everything as checkboxes. When I arrow around even in file explorer nvda says

Desktop list view recycle bin checkbox selected two of five. What is going on, how do I turn this off?



Thanks,



Josh





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Re: NVDA on RCA tablet and the desktop

Chris
 

if you go into file explorer option in control panel and under the view tab uncheck the option to use check boxes to select items

 

Then apply and ok

 

That should fix it

 

 

 

From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: 06 January 2019 02:54
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA on RCA tablet and the desktop

 

Hi,

I got NVDA set up on my new tablet. My RCA cambio with intel atom z8350 processor. But on the desktop NVDA keeps showing everything as checkboxes. When I arrow around even in file explorer nvda says

Desktop list view recycle bin checkbox selected two of five. What is going on, how do I turn this off?

 

Thanks,

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: Spacebar Activates a Link While in Browse Mode

Gene
 

I don't know why the space bar activates links, nor do I know if it does in all cases.  It isn't the documented command so you can't be sure it will work in all intended cases.
 
When you are in forms mode, you are interacting directly with the browser.  Any commands you give will do what they would do if no screen-reader were present.  When you are in browse mode, you are interacting with your screen-reader and commands are routed through the screen-reader.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 10:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] Spacebar Activates a Link While in Browse Mode

Hello, I noticed that while in "browse" mode while focus is on a link, if I press the space bar, instead of the page scrolling down (as usually occurs when the space bar is pressed on a web page), the link is activated as it would be had I pressed the Enter key. This does not happen when I am in "forms" mode. Does anyone know why this occurs?


Spacebar Activates a Link While in Browse Mode

bestuiexperience
 

Hello, I noticed that while in "browse" mode while focus is on a link, if I press the space bar, instead of the page scrolling down (as usually occurs when the space bar is pressed on a web page), the link is activated as it would be had I pressed the Enter key. This does not happen when I am in "forms" mode. Does anyone know why this occurs?


Re: NVDA on RCA tablet and the desktop

Aman Singer
 

Hi,

 

                In Windows 10’s Windows Explorer, it may be worth hitting alt, then f, then o. This is to get to the folder options dialog, alt+t then o in Windows 7. Then ctrl+tab to “view”, then tab to the tree of options and hit u until you hear “use checkboxes to select items” or something like that. If that’s on, hit space to turn it off and hit OK. On my machines,, this clears up this issue for all folders.

HTH,

Aman

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Wells
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 10:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA on RCA tablet and the desktop

 

I am using a Dell SPX and am hearing the same thing. I would love to know the answer as well.

On 1/5/2019 8:54 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

Hi,

I got NVDA set up on my new tablet. My RCA cambio with intel atom z8350 processor. But on the desktop NVDA keeps showing everything as checkboxes. When I arrow around even in file explorer nvda says

Desktop list view recycle bin checkbox selected two of five. What is going on, how do I turn this off?

 

Thanks,

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: NVDA on RCA tablet and the desktop

Richard Wells
 

I am using a Dell SPX and am hearing the same thing. I would love to know the answer as well.

On 1/5/2019 8:54 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

Hi,

I got NVDA set up on my new tablet. My RCA cambio with intel atom z8350 processor. But on the desktop NVDA keeps showing everything as checkboxes. When I arrow around even in file explorer nvda says

Desktop list view recycle bin checkbox selected two of five. What is going on, how do I turn this off?

 

Thanks,

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


NVDA on RCA tablet and the desktop

Josh Kennedy
 

Hi,

I got NVDA set up on my new tablet. My RCA cambio with intel atom z8350 processor. But on the desktop NVDA keeps showing everything as checkboxes. When I arrow around even in file explorer nvda says

Desktop list view recycle bin checkbox selected two of five. What is going on, how do I turn this off?

 

Thanks,

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Gene
 

It sounds suspiciously to me as though you have AdWare on your machine which is causing popups to appear when they shouldn't be.  do popups keep coming up as you browse?  do they come up when you are not browsing as well, when the browser is closed? 
 
It appears the advertising in the message you are discussing comes from Juno.com.  I didn't know they were still around but I just looked up the site and it is.  These appear to be commercials Juno is placing in the e-mail from third party advertisers. 
 
I doubt that you being signed into Chrome would cause such popups.  I never signed into Chrome so I doubt it but I don't know it. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: MAX
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Did anyone else see that tag on Sue's message?  It began quote, One Cup of This (Before Bed), end quote.  That's the same as one of the popups I was getting with google chrome.


73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sue J. Ward
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 3:29 PM
To: nvda groups <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Hello. Everyone. Thanks for your help and the Dropbox download. Do you know what is the official website for the virtual recorder program? Well I did finally figured it out based on playing with audacity for a half hour. I do have everything set correctly and if I want to hear what I have recorded through the computer I have to unplug everything from the sound card since my desktop PC does have an internal speaker. I did turn it down so it is not too loud so I can hear what I am recording and don't have to bother other people after I am done I do play it back it sounds great. I am going to get a second computer and see how that goes since on that one am going to put games on that machine and maybe some audio editing software. I think whatever works for the certain person depending what they want to do there are a lot of options out there. So just thought I would give an update.
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Re: how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Gene
 

I don't know how you unzip files.  if you do it properly, you should have a completely new folder, separate from the zip file, with all the files in it.  It doesn't sound to me as though you did that.  It sounds to me as though you opened the archive and ran the exe file from inside of the archive. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: MAX
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

After I downloaded and ran the zip file I had the unzipping program on my screen.  I pressed the extract button.  That showed the virtual recorder.exe file.  When I ran it I got the recorder dialog on the screen but I could only use it once because after I closed everything I couldn’t find the exe file again.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 2:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

Since the link to the installed version came from the same site, this was, presumably, an installed version modified by Carlos.  I didn't recall there being one so whatever I may have said was regarding the version direct from the developer which evidently has accessibility problems.

 

As far as portable programs are concerned, I don't know why you had problems with the portable program but I prefer to use portable versions of programs when available.  Did you unzip the program before using it?  For those trying this or other portable programs who haven't used them before, if they come as a zip file, you must unzip the program before using it. 

 

I generally prefer to use portable programs if available.  For one thing, they are portable.  I can simply copy the folder onto a thumb drive and place a copy onto another computer if I want to use it there.  No changes are made to the system.  I always use portable versions of firefox because if the copy I'm using becomes corrupted, I can keep a backup copy of the program and simply replace the corrupted program with a copy of the backup program.  I don't have to worry about maintenance or creating a new profile or anything else.  And, as I said, I can copy it to another computer when I wish.

 

In this case, there may be one or more available features in the installed version so someone might wat to use the installed version.  I don't know what those features might be and they aren't important to me because the portable version does everything I want.  I suspect that if there are more available features they would be something minor such as being able to specify where files are saved.

 

Gene

----- Original message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 1:11 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

Now that’s more like it.  It was the usual install experience with location, start menu, and desk top icon.  You scared me off from the installed version with all that talk about bugs.  I did a little recording and I could find the files and play them back.  Ten minutes after two and all is well.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 11:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

I sent two links yesterday, one for each version.  Here is the message I sent last night:

 

Gene


Here is a link to the portable version of the program which is still available from the site where Carlos hosted useful resources.  The vollunteer who hosted the programs for Carlos is still doing so.
http://opopanax.net/download/Virtual_Recorder_Portable.zip
Presumably, this is the latest version.

 

There is an installable version, also, I assume, modified by Carlos.  I don't know if the installable version does anything the portable version doesn't do.  Perhaps it allows you to specify where you want files saved. 

 

Also, because of the problems a user reported with the installed version, presumably from the developer's site, it may be that some people have problems with the installed version that won't with the portable. version

 

Here is the link for the installable version from the same site:
http://opopanax.net/download/Setup_VirtualRecorder.exe

 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: MAX

Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 11:03 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

How do I, or anyone for that matter, tell the difference between the install and the noninstall versions.  I get it.  The noninstall version just copies the files but doesn't register the program with windows.  That must have been the one I downloaded.  I have dumped the message with the URL so will someone please send me a good URL?


73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 4:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Hi
Are you sure you ran the install version?  There is a non-install version as well which I gave up on because Windows Defender kept moving it into quarantine.  Under W10, I downloaded and installed the install version and have been using it without problems.  The installed version definitely shows up in the list of installed programs, and creates a desktop item.  You are better using the install version anyway as some of the features cannot be used in the non-install version.

Cheers
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of MAX
Sent: 4 January 2019 21:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Well, I'll bet lots of others are having the same problem but nobody wants to be the first.  OK, I'll be that person.  The virtual recorder install program didn't create an entry in the start menu or a desk top icon or an icon in the applications bar as mentioned in the readme file.  I tried to start it with the command line but that has been changed and I don't know how to access it anymore.  When I had it running after the installation I made a test recording but the directory where it said it put the recording doesn't show up in windows explorer.  Maybe I should forget it and find another program.


73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/



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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Yes but virtual recorder does not involve fiddling with sound card settings and is free so you can use the editor of choice.
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From: "Robert Doc Wright godfearer" <godfearer@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 6:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.


> Goldwave would be your best bet. In its microphone section it has a
> loopback feature that will allow you to point it to your sound card
> and record from it.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sue J. Ward" <groovy41@...>
> To: "nvda groups" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 9:11 PM
> Subject: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic
> plugged in sure could use some help.
>
>
>>  Hello. Does anyone know of any audio recording software that works
>> with NVDA with no mic attached to the computer? I want to record a
>> lot of internal stuff from my computer with no mic attached. I have
>> tried audacity with everything they suggested when reading the user
>> guide to make it work no such luck since am using windows 10. Lets
>> just say if I want to record a radio station or anything from my
>> computer what type of program could I use with NVDA? I have heard of
>> total recorder and gold wave would those programs work since I do
>> have everything up to date and I did check in the recording section
>> and I have no stereo mics on my sound card. Have any of you used
>> sound tap or any apps with in the app store to get anything to work
>> with NVDA? I have tried everything with the line in jack nothing. Or
>> maybe I am not setting it up right. Any suggestions would be excellent. Thank you.
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> Top Gut Doctor Warns: "Throw Out This Vegetable Immediately"
>> unhealthpublications.com
>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5c2edd115b38d5d104ca5st01duc
>>
>>
>>
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Re: how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

MAX <max@...>
 

Did anyone else see that tag on Sue's message? It began quote, One Cup of This (Before Bed), end quote. That's the same as one of the popups I was getting with google chrome.


73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sue J. Ward
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 3:29 PM
To: nvda groups <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Hello. Everyone. Thanks for your help and the Dropbox download. Do you know what is the official website for the virtual recorder program? Well I did finally figured it out based on playing with audacity for a half hour. I do have everything set correctly and if I want to hear what I have recorded through the computer I have to unplug everything from the sound card since my desktop PC does have an internal speaker. I did turn it down so it is not too loud so I can hear what I am recording and don't have to bother other people after I am done I do play it back it sounds great. I am going to get a second computer and see how that goes since on that one am going to put games on that machine and maybe some audio editing software. I think whatever works for the certain person depending what they want to do there are a lot of options out there. So just thought I would give an update.
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Re: how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

MAX <max@...>
 

After I downloaded and ran the zip file I had the unzipping program on my screen.  I pressed the extract button.  That showed the virtual recorder.exe file.  When I ran it I got the recorder dialog on the screen but I could only use it once because after I closed everything I couldn’t find the exe file again.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 2:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

Since the link to the installed version came from the same site, this was, presumably, an installed version modified by Carlos.  I didn't recall there being one so whatever I may have said was regarding the version direct from the developer which evidently has accessibility problems.

 

As far as portable programs are concerned, I don't know why you had problems with the portable program but I prefer to use portable versions of programs when available.  Did you unzip the program before using it?  For those trying this or other portable programs who haven't used them before, if they come as a zip file, you must unzip the program before using it. 

 

I generally prefer to use portable programs if available.  For one thing, they are portable.  I can simply copy the folder onto a thumb drive and place a copy onto another computer if I want to use it there.  No changes are made to the system.  I always use portable versions of firefox because if the copy I'm using becomes corrupted, I can keep a backup copy of the program and simply replace the corrupted program with a copy of the backup program.  I don't have to worry about maintenance or creating a new profile or anything else.  And, as I said, I can copy it to another computer when I wish.

 

In this case, there may be one or more available features in the installed version so someone might wat to use the installed version.  I don't know what those features might be and they aren't important to me because the portable version does everything I want.  I suspect that if there are more available features they would be something minor such as being able to specify where files are saved.

 

Gene

----- Original message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 1:11 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

Now that’s more like it.  It was the usual install experience with location, start menu, and desk top icon.  You scared me off from the installed version with all that talk about bugs.  I did a little recording and I could find the files and play them back.  Ten minutes after two and all is well.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 11:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

I sent two links yesterday, one for each version.  Here is the message I sent last night:

 

Gene


Here is a link to the portable version of the program which is still available from the site where Carlos hosted useful resources.  The vollunteer who hosted the programs for Carlos is still doing so.
http://opopanax.net/download/Virtual_Recorder_Portable.zip
Presumably, this is the latest version.

 

There is an installable version, also, I assume, modified by Carlos.  I don't know if the installable version does anything the portable version doesn't do.  Perhaps it allows you to specify where you want files saved. 

 

Also, because of the problems a user reported with the installed version, presumably from the developer's site, it may be that some people have problems with the installed version that won't with the portable. version

 

Here is the link for the installable version from the same site:
http://opopanax.net/download/Setup_VirtualRecorder.exe

 

Gene
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Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 11:03 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

How do I, or anyone for that matter, tell the difference between the install and the noninstall versions.  I get it.  The noninstall version just copies the files but doesn't register the program with windows.  That must have been the one I downloaded.  I have dumped the message with the URL so will someone please send me a good URL?


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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 4:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Hi
Are you sure you ran the install version?  There is a non-install version as well which I gave up on because Windows Defender kept moving it into quarantine.  Under W10, I downloaded and installed the install version and have been using it without problems.  The installed version definitely shows up in the list of installed programs, and creates a desktop item.  You are better using the install version anyway as some of the features cannot be used in the non-install version.

Cheers
Chris
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of MAX
Sent: 4 January 2019 21:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Well, I'll bet lots of others are having the same problem but nobody wants to be the first.  OK, I'll be that person.  The virtual recorder install program didn't create an entry in the start menu or a desk top icon or an icon in the applications bar as mentioned in the readme file.  I tried to start it with the command line but that has been changed and I don't know how to access it anymore.  When I had it running after the installation I made a test recording but the directory where it said it put the recording doesn't show up in windows explorer.  Maybe I should forget it and find another program.


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Yes but virtual recorder does not involve fiddling with sound card settings and is free so you can use the editor of choice.
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> Goldwave would be your best bet. In its microphone section it has a
> loopback feature that will allow you to point it to your sound card
> and record from it.
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> From: "Sue J. Ward" <groovy41@...>
> To: "nvda groups" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 9:11 PM
> Subject: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic
> plugged in sure could use some help.
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>>  Hello. Does anyone know of any audio recording software that works
>> with NVDA with no mic attached to the computer? I want to record a
>> lot of internal stuff from my computer with no mic attached. I have
>> tried audacity with everything they suggested when reading the user
>> guide to make it work no such luck since am using windows 10. Lets
>> just say if I want to record a radio station or anything from my
>> computer what type of program could I use with NVDA? I have heard of
>> total recorder and gold wave would those programs work since I do
>> have everything up to date and I did check in the recording section
>> and I have no stereo mics on my sound card. Have any of you used
>> sound tap or any apps with in the app store to get anything to work
>> with NVDA? I have tried everything with the line in jack nothing. Or
>> maybe I am not setting it up right. Any suggestions would be excellent. Thank you.
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Re: how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Gene
 

Without knowing details of what the other person wants to do, I can only speak generally.  The following may or may not be helpful but I'll write it in case it is.  And it may be helpful to others.  You working with the other person, if that is what you will be doing, and showing the other person how to use whatever is decided on is a very different situation than appeared to be the case originally.  I am assuming, from your message, that you know enough about Audacity to work with the person.
 
MP3 Direct Cut doesn't have Loop Back so if the goal is to have MP3 files recorded using Loop Back, then some other program, audacity, Goldwave, Virtual Recorder, all have loop back.  If the person wants to edit and you are going to teach that, then whatever program you want to teach is fine but if you are using Goldwave or Audacity to record, then the file shouldn't be saved as an MP3 until the final version to avoid loss of quality.  You likely already know that.
 
Virtual Recorder is by far the easiest program to change settings with but if the person is going to just use settings you recommend or set for the person, that won't matter. 
 
I don't use audacity enough to know how easy editing is with it in newer versions.  MP3 Direct cut used to be easier but there have been a lot of changes in audacity so I don't know how they compare now. 
 
Gene

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Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Hello. Everyone. Thanks for your help and the Dropbox download. Do you
know what is the official website for the virtual recorder program? Well
I did finally figured it out based on playing with audacity for a half
hour. I do have everything set correctly and if I want to hear what I
have recorded through the computer I have to unplug everything from the
sound card since my desktop PC does have an internal speaker. I did turn
it down so it is not too loud so I can hear what I am recording and
don't have to bother other people after I am done I do play it back it
sounds great. I am going to get a second computer and see how that goes
since on that one am going to put games on that machine and maybe some
audio editing software. I think whatever works for the certain person
depending what they want to do there are a lot of options out there. So
just thought I would give an update.
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