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Re: resource monitor add-on or some other way?

 

If you are having slowness secondary to hard disk drive performance, you need to proceed with great caution, and run a utility that lets you know the actual condition of your HDD.

Are any of the SMART parameters showing that something's off?  (I don't care what you might use to get them).

What does a utility like SeaTools for Windows (and I can't speak to accessibility, and it will work for non-Seagate branded drives) tell you about the health of your drive if you run the short test?

You could very well have a HDD that's on its way out.  If so, you do not want to wait for it to fail.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

       ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: resource monitor add-on or some other way?

 

Hi,
I don't think it's something Resource Monitor can obtain easily (the add-on uses Psutil, a process, disk, and CPU usage information library and I don't believe this library has what's needed to show you what's commonly called "disk activity" or throughput).
As an alternative, you can obtain disk usage info through Task Manager:
1. Open Task Manager (Control+Shift+Escape).
2. If not done so, select "more details".
3. Go to "performance" tab.
4. Under Performance, select the disk you wish to see its activity. You can then use object navigation or screen review to view disk usage information (screen review won't work on portable NVDA).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 2:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] resource monitor add-on or some other way?

Hi all,
I was on the phone with a technician this morning for about an hour because for the past several months, my computer has been running quite slow. He recommended I replace my hard drive, as he noted the hard drive response time was extremely slow. When we finally hung up, I figured I'd get to my usual daily computer activities, but found what shouldn't have been surprising, my computer was painfully slow.
So, I restarted it, and it turned out it was installing more updates.
Now, performance is back to normal, but I want to continue to monitor my hard drive's response time before I spend the money for a new drive. Is this something the Resource monitor add-on can do, or do I need to do what he did and open task manager? If the latter, how do I get NVDA to read this information?
Bob


resource monitor add-on or some other way?

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

Hi all,
I was on the phone with a technician this morning for about an hour
because for the past several months, my computer has been running
quite slow. He recommended I replace my hard drive, as he noted the
hard drive response time was extremely slow. When we finally hung up,
I figured I'd get to my usual daily computer activities, but found
what shouldn't have been surprising, my computer was painfully slow.
So, I restarted it, and it turned out it was installing more updates.
Now, performance is back to normal, but I want to continue to monitor
my hard drive's response time before I spend the money for a new
drive. Is this something the Resource monitor add-on can do, or do I
need to do what he did and open task manager? If the latter, how do I
get NVDA to read this information?
Bob


Re: Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

Chris Smart
 

It's called Osara.

Please see

www.reaperaccessibility.com

for more information.


and for info on the Jaws scripts for Magix Samplitude, go to:

http://samplitudeaccess.org.uk/



On 2021-02-12 4:47 p.m., Sky Mundell wrote:

And also with Reaper, to make it work with NVDA you need the Ostara plugin.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sky Mundell
Sent: February 12, 2021 1:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

 

Hello. Reaper does work with NVDA as does Sound Forge. Sampletude however will not work with NVDA. With Sampletude, you still need to use JAWS.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christian Ohrens
Sent: February 12, 2021 1:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

 

Hi folks,

I’m thinking about to replace my older JAWS to the newest NVDA build on my new computer which I’ll get next week.

For JAWS I am using several Script packages for some programs and now I want to know if there exists such addons or scripts for NVDA ttoo for the following programs:

Samplitude X5, Sound Forge Pro 14, Reaper.

 

And I’ve also some general questions concerrnning the handling of NVDA:

Are there some functions similar to the touch cursor or JAWS cursor in JAWS?

 

Thank you for your assistance.

Regards

Christian

 


Re: Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

 

Hi,
In fact, JAWS touch cursor is really object navigation.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ali Savas
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 1:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

Hi Christian,

there is nothing like the JAWS cursor in NVDA, but you can navigate through the windows using the object cursor. With Numpad-0+4 or -6 you can navigate between the objects. With Numpad-0+2 or 8 you can change the hierarchy.

Additionally there is the screen viewer (Numpad-0+7). Once activated, you can navigate line by line with numpad-4 and numpad-6. You can switch back to object navigation by pressing Numpad-0+1.

Many greetings
Ali


Re: NVDA saying 'slide to close"

Dan Beaver
 

Slide to close?  Sounds more like VoiceOver than NVDA.  What is your student using?


Dan Beaver

On 2/12/2021 3:43 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
Sometimes when my student activates NVDA, there is no speech.  Trying to reboot, speech pops up long enough to say "slide to close".  What is going on???

thx,






-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


Re: Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

Sky Mundell
 

And also with Reaper, to make it work with NVDA you need the Ostara plugin.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sky Mundell
Sent: February 12, 2021 1:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

 

Hello. Reaper does work with NVDA as does Sound Forge. Sampletude however will not work with NVDA. With Sampletude, you still need to use JAWS.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christian Ohrens
Sent: February 12, 2021 1:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

 

Hi folks,

I’m thinking about to replace my older JAWS to the newest NVDA build on my new computer which I’ll get next week.

For JAWS I am using several Script packages for some programs and now I want to know if there exists such addons or scripts for NVDA ttoo for the following programs:

Samplitude X5, Sound Forge Pro 14, Reaper.

 

And I’ve also some general questions concerrnning the handling of NVDA:

Are there some functions similar to the touch cursor or JAWS cursor in JAWS?

 

Thank you for your assistance.

Regards

Christian

 


Re: Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

Ali Savas
 

Hi Christian,

there is nothing like the JAWS cursor in NVDA, but you can navigate
through the windows using the object cursor. With Numpad-0+4 or -6 you
can navigate between the objects. With Numpad-0+2 or 8 you can change
the hierarchy.

Additionally there is the screen viewer (Numpad-0+7). Once activated,
you can navigate line by line with numpad-4 and numpad-6. You can switch
back to object navigation by pressing Numpad-0+1.

Many greetings
Ali


Re: Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

Sky Mundell
 

And to answer your other question, NVDA does have two review cursers. One is called object navigation, where you navigate via object, and another is called screen review which acts just like the JAWS curser.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christian Ohrens
Sent: February 12, 2021 1:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

 

Hi folks,

I’m thinking about to replace my older JAWS to the newest NVDA build on my new computer which I’ll get next week.

For JAWS I am using several Script packages for some programs and now I want to know if there exists such addons or scripts for NVDA ttoo for the following programs:

Samplitude X5, Sound Forge Pro 14, Reaper.

 

And I’ve also some general questions concerrnning the handling of NVDA:

Are there some functions similar to the touch cursor or JAWS cursor in JAWS?

 

Thank you for your assistance.

Regards

Christian

 


Re: Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

Sky Mundell
 

Hello. Reaper does work with NVDA as does Sound Forge. Sampletude however will not work with NVDA. With Sampletude, you still need to use JAWS.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christian Ohrens
Sent: February 12, 2021 1:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

 

Hi folks,

I’m thinking about to replace my older JAWS to the newest NVDA build on my new computer which I’ll get next week.

For JAWS I am using several Script packages for some programs and now I want to know if there exists such addons or scripts for NVDA ttoo for the following programs:

Samplitude X5, Sound Forge Pro 14, Reaper.

 

And I’ve also some general questions concerrnning the handling of NVDA:

Are there some functions similar to the touch cursor or JAWS cursor in JAWS?

 

Thank you for your assistance.

Regards

Christian

 


Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

Christian Ohrens
 

Hi folks,

I’m thinking about to replace my older JAWS to the newest NVDA build on my new computer which I’ll get next week.

For JAWS I am using several Script packages for some programs and now I want to know if there exists such addons or scripts for NVDA ttoo for the following programs:

Samplitude X5, Sound Forge Pro 14, Reaper.

 

And I’ve also some general questions concerrnning the handling of NVDA:

Are there some functions similar to the touch cursor or JAWS cursor in JAWS?

 

Thank you for your assistance.

Regards

Christian

 


NVDA saying 'slide to close"

Ann Byrne
 

Sometimes when my student activates NVDA, there is no speech. Trying to reboot, speech pops up long enough to say "slide to close". What is going on???

thx,


Re: Kryterion, Imbedded objects ... what are they and how can I work with one?

 

Janet,

            You can use the "Reply to Sender" link at the bottom of this message to send a private reply to my email address.  And if, by some chance, that doesn't work, my email address is britechguy at the email provided by Google dot com.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

       ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Kryterion, Imbedded objects ... what are they and how can I work with one?

Janet Brandly
 

Hi again Brian,

 

The browser is called Sentinel and has been developed specifically by Kryterion. I don’t know all the technical details, but I did find a pretty comprehensive PDF which I can send as an attachment. I also have some sort of set-up file which I can also try to send. What email address should I use?

 

Thank you. When I get a job, NVDA will get a big donation!

 

Janet

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: February 12, 2021 12:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Kryterion, Imbedded objects ... what are they and how can I work with one?

 

Janet,

            OK, but now I (or any other potential assistant) need more specifics.  What program are we talking about (as in the lockdown browser), and where would it be obtained?  A testing environment that mirrors your own would need to be established to do the testing with NVDA, and this is a part of helping us get there.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

       ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Application key is not functioning properly

Andre Fisher
 

Hi.

This may require a reboot. Failing that, you may also want to list some of the add-ons you have, if any, as one of them may be at conflict with the mentioned key.


Re: Kryterion, Imbedded objects ... what are they and how can I work with one?

 

Janet,

            OK, but now I (or any other potential assistant) need more specifics.  What program are we talking about (as in the lockdown browser), and where would it be obtained?  A testing environment that mirrors your own would need to be established to do the testing with NVDA, and this is a part of helping us get there.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

       ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Kryterion, Imbedded objects ... what are they and how can I work with one?

Janet Brandly
 

Hi Brian,

 

Thank you for getting back to me so fast! A “lock-down browser” is a browser which locks down everything else on the computer other than a specific program, in this case the Kryterion platform. It prevents the user from accessing other software such as email or a web browser. This test is a “closed book” test, so accessing outside sources is not permitted. I am using a laptop computer with a regular keyboard.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: February 12, 2021 11:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Kryterion, Imbedded objects ... what are they and how can I work with one?

 

Janet,

           What, if I may ask, is a "lockdown browser"?

            Your question is definitely NVDA related, and I commend you for the amount of detail you've offered.  I've never heard of a "lockdown browser" so have no idea what it would entail as far as installing it.

             You're definitely right that this is something that cannot really be handled as an abstract discussion.  By the way, are you using a laptop or a desktop computer?
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

       ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Kryterion, Imbedded objects ... what are they and how can I work with one?

 

Janet,

           What, if I may ask, is a "lockdown browser"?

            Your question is definitely NVDA related, and I commend you for the amount of detail you've offered.  I've never heard of a "lockdown browser" so have no idea what it would entail as far as installing it.

             You're definitely right that this is something that cannot really be handled as an abstract discussion.  By the way, are you using a laptop or a desktop computer?
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

       ~ Brian Vogel

 


Kryterion, Imbedded objects ... what are they and how can I work with one?

Janet Brandly
 

Hello all,

 

AS some of you may know, I am trying to use Kryterion’s testing platform with NVDA. I will provide more details later; but for now, I am having an issue which I hope someone can help me with.

 

Part of the test involves transcribing from oral dictation, and part involves comparing and editing generated text from a dictation. One has to use a player to control the dictation … play, pause, etc. This player is apparently contained in what, when I navigate to it with the arrow keys, is described as an imbedded object. Kryterion’s documentation states that this player is only able to be operated with the mouse. Would someone out there be able to explain what this is and how I might work with these controls? I know NVDA does provide some mouse access from the keyboard and numpad, but I have not had to do this before and, I don’t know whether this would even work in this case. If someone is willing to contact me privately, I could provide my login details so you could have a look at it. If someone decides to do this, you would need to first install a “lock-down browser”. I had to get sighted assistance with this. I’m not a “power user” so it might be possible to install this without sighted assistance, I don’t know.

 

Thank you for reading and for any input you can provide.

 

Janet


Re: Finding the distance from the edge

Ann Byrne
 

Yes! that's what I was hoping for.

Thanks,

At 12:30 PM 2/12/2021, you wrote:

Hi,

NVDA+F might be able to tell you indentation level (including tabs).

By the way, the general command to obtain where the control is located in relation to the screen is nvDA+Numpad Delete (desktop layout; laptop: NvDA+Delete).

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 10:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Finding the distance from the edge



By the way, this is the perfect example of a topic that quickly transformed to having nothing to do with NVDA. The initial question did, but based on my research it would be answered with a simple, "No." If I'm wrong, then someone jump in and give the NVDA command to produce this information, as it would be great if it exists, whether natively or as part of an add-on.

But if not, It belongs either on the Chat Subgroup or another group, such as the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group, as it is a deep-dive into the features of word. Not a single thing I've posted even fits being on-topic for this group.

I give a lot of latitude for single responses that likely solve an issue, as coming down about this kind of thing if an answer is available in a single reply wastes valuable space and time. But if we are going to continue any further discussion of this that's about Word, not NVDA, it really should not be happening in the NVDA main group, as it has nothing whatsoever to do with NVDA, but with Word. It's entirely screen reader agnostic.

I'm not exempt from the group rules, nor should I be. And when any member recognizes that what they're actually talking about isn't NVDA, even if it started out being about NVDA, and there's still a lot to say, then find the correct venue to discuss it. I'll see you either in the Chat Subgroup or Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group if you do want to discuss Word further.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

~ Brian Vogel



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