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Firefox crashing after upgrading to NVDA rc3

Pranav Lal
 

Hi all,

I have upgraded to NVDA 2018.3 rc3. Whenever I launch firefox, it crashes. I
have tried restoring defaults without success. This did not happen when I
was using NVDA 2018.2.

Any ideas? I believe I am on the latest version of firefox but cannot say. I
have been updating regularly.
Pranav


Re: windows one core voice max rate

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I think the thinking of Microsoft here, though a little muddled is that this protects people from accidentally setting it to unintelligible speeds, one can see the Microsoft slider as a max rate limiter for anything using the synth. However if you set nvda fast then use the Microsoft slider you can still give yourself a headache on the machine I tried it on grin.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
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Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 5:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows one core voice max rate


Hi Manish,

In Windows Text-to-speech settings (start typing text to speech settings in
the start menu) there is a slider for "speed". Move that further to the
right to increase the speech rate. Note that this setting as well as
NVDA's speech rate together both affect how fast the voice talks, so the
fastest speed would be both at max.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Manish Agrawal <manish10@...> wrote:

Hi,

I tried using the windows one core voice with NVDA today. I tried
increasing the rate of speech but even at 100% the rate was slower than I
would like.

The same voice, Microsoft David, can be set to a much faster rate when
using narrator. With narrator, I could get David to speak almost as fast as
espeakNG.



Has anyone else noticed this and figured out a way around this?



Regards,

Manish



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Re: installing RC2 and RC3

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Exactly the same here as well, if I hit esc though then manually restart it comes in OK. I suspect that nvda is once again not letting go of the log file in time for the new version to start a new log file.
Hope this helps you fix it.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 2:25 AM
Subject: [nvda] installing RC2 and RC3


Noticed when updating from RC1 to RC2 and from RC2 to RC3 NVDA didn't do a restart after the completion as updates normally do. Is this a change in the update process?




Re: google domains configuration web site seems inaccessible

Gene
 

Alt up arrow closes a combo box and is the opposite of what is desired.  It's alt down arrow to open it and the command should be issued when in forms mode or when browse mode is off, depending on what your screen-reader calls having browse mode off.
 
In addition, and I'm speaking specifically about NVDA now, the equivalent may be true of JAWS and some other screen-readers, for some combo boxes that refresh in certain ways when a change is made, it may be necessary to not just turn off browse mode with enter when on the combo box, but to use NVDA key space to turn it off instead of enter.  If this is done, you can then up or down arrow in the combo box and browse mode will stay off.  When you have finished moving in the combo box, turn browse mode on again with the same command, NVDA space bar.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 1:38 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] google domains configuration web site seems inaccessible

I find a good rule of thumb for combo boxes that jump around whenever
you change them is to press the alt-up arrow or down arrow keys.
My TV DVR program does something similar whenever I tell it what time
to begin a scheduled recording, and I press alt-down arrow to open
the combo box and that seems to work.
At 06:46 AM 9/14/2018, you wrote:
>Here is not the place for a rant, but I will say this, even when a
>page is so called accessible the main gripe I have is confused
>layout, over the top complexity on a single page and controls that
>work completely differently in different places like edit areas that
>keep saying invalid input as you try to type into them or combo
>boxes that sometimes work normally at other times jump about as soon
>as you move them.
>
>The people making web sites forget one ruling factor for the blind
>is there is not any easy way to get an overview and go straight to
>the bit you want, as normally you have no idea what the bit you want
>is called or even if its on the page!
>
>Brian
>
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>----- Original Message ----- From: "Ervin, Glenn" <glenn.ervin@...>
>To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 4:47 PM
>Subject: Re: [nvda] google domains configuration web site seems inaccessible
>
>
>>I might add, if it takes assistance from a list for help getting
>>through a web page, for someone who has pretty good computer and
>>screenreader skills, then even if there is a non-basic solution
>>that was later learned by help from a list, I don't consider the
>>page to be accessible.
>>I'm glad we can be here to offer assistance, but most Blind users
>>struggle to learn all the commands we teach them, and if these
>>things are challenges for those of us who can do just about all of
>>it, then what hope is there for the majority of screenreader users?
>>
>>Glenn
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
>>Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:40 AM
>>To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>Subject: Re: [nvda] google domains configuration web site seems inaccessible
>>
>>It sure seems like more and more pages are becoming less accessible.
>>Seems like we are losing ground in the area of accessibility in this regard.
>>Glenn
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rusty Perez
>>Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:31 AM
>>To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>Subject: [nvda] google domains configuration web site seems unaccessible
>>
>>Hi folks,
>>I am trying to configure my web domain on google domains but while
>>using NVDA and Firefox, when I go to domains.google.com and log in,
>>the tabs appear, but when I navigate, for example, to the configure
>>dns tab and press enter, or nvda/numEnter the options which are
>>supposed to appear don't seem to be available to me with NVDA. I
>>have not confirmed that they do appear on the screen, all I know is
>>that I cannot get to them using my conventional methods, arrows or tab.
>>
>>Any thoughts?
>>
>>Rusty
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>




Re: Windows 10 App Essentials

 

Hi,

Correct, and if you happen to be using Add-on Updater, that add-on will now check for windows 10 App Essentials updates.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of mattias
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 12:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials

 

In latest dev of Windows 10 App Essentials the submenu in nvda are gone

 

Skickades från E-post för Windows 10

 


Windows 10 App Essentials

mattias
 

In latest dev of Windows 10 App Essentials the submenu in nvda are gone

 

Skickades från E-post för Windows 10

 


Re: google domains configuration web site seems inaccessible

Stephen
 

I find a good rule of thumb for combo boxes that jump around whenever you change them is to press the alt-up arrow or down arrow keys.
My TV DVR program does something similar whenever I tell it what time to begin a scheduled recording, and I press alt-down arrow to open the combo box and that seems to work.

At 06:46 AM 9/14/2018, you wrote:
Here is not the place for a rant, but I will say this, even when a page is so called accessible the main gripe I have is confused layout, over the top complexity on a single page and controls that work completely differently in different places like edit areas that keep saying invalid input as you try to type into them or combo boxes that sometimes work normally at other times jump about as soon as you move them.

The people making web sites forget one ruling factor for the blind is there is not any easy way to get an overview and go straight to the bit you want, as normally you have no idea what the bit you want is called or even if its on the page!

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ervin, Glenn" <glenn.ervin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] google domains configuration web site seems inaccessible


I might add, if it takes assistance from a list for help getting through a web page, for someone who has pretty good computer and screenreader skills, then even if there is a non-basic solution that was later learned by help from a list, I don't consider the page to be accessible.
I'm glad we can be here to offer assistance, but most Blind users struggle to learn all the commands we teach them, and if these things are challenges for those of us who can do just about all of it, then what hope is there for the majority of screenreader users?

Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] google domains configuration web site seems inaccessible

It sure seems like more and more pages are becoming less accessible.
Seems like we are losing ground in the area of accessibility in this regard.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rusty Perez
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:31 AM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] google domains configuration web site seems unaccessible

Hi folks,
I am trying to configure my web domain on google domains but while using NVDA and Firefox, when I go to domains.google.com and log in, the tabs appear, but when I navigate, for example, to the configure dns tab and press enter, or nvda/numEnter the options which are supposed to appear don't seem to be available to me with NVDA. I have not confirmed that they do appear on the screen, all I know is that I cannot get to them using my conventional methods, arrows or tab.

Any thoughts?

Rusty









Re: skype new version

anthony borg
 

Hi inamuddin

Could you please explain to me how to activate those shortcuts, ctrl+shift+p and ctrl+e?

Because evrytime I tried to used them nothing happen.

Sorry that I’m troubling you.

Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Inam Uddin via Groups.Io
Sent: 13 September 2018 19:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] skype new version

 

To answer:

Ctrl+shift+p

And to hang up:

Ctrl+e

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 4:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] skype new version

 

Dear inamuddin,

Could you please tell me what’s the shortcut to answer a call on that latest version you sent me of the skype?

Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Inam Uddin via Groups.Io
Sent: 13 September 2018 10:42
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] skype new version

 

Respected sir, first of all, Classic Skype is still working.

Secondly, as far as the latest Skype is concern, it is Skype 8.30.0.50

For the sake of tutorial,

Go to youtube and type Skype electron-inamuddin

you will find my tutorial!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] skype new version

 

Hello folks

As the old version of skype stopped running, even the shortcuts that we used to use aren’t any longer used for other new versions.

If there is someone that is using one of the latest skype version for pc. I would be very greatful if he send me the version number and the shortcuts to use it please, I really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance

Anthony

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 13 September 2018 10:00
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: skype new version

 

One tricky thing I find with Emoji is that different platforms have different icons for them so things can look quite different.  Sometimes I hear NVDA describe an emoji and my first reaction is "Really? Is THAT was that thing is meant to be?"

 

 

 

 

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 4:59 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:

I just hope people do not start putting them onto these emails.
I can of course hear them if I use Espeak latest version but the effect seems not to work on all synths. I have no idea even with the descriptions what the  idea of the actual imogees are. I can tell a smiley but that is about the  sum of what I ever used, being a text only junkie! Brian

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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problems with nvda2018.3rc1


Hi Paul,

Press WINDOWS+. or WINDOWS+; to open the emoji panel, then either right
arrow through the items in the current section, press tab to move to the
sections and arrows to choose a new section, or start typing to search for
emoji, eg "cake"
🍰, "Smiling" or "firetruck" 🚒 (as with many other
search fields, you don't necessarily have to type the full thing - I typed
"fire" to narrow the results down to a handful to get the fire truck).

Press ENTER to insert your chosen emoji, and escape to close the panel.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 5:16 AM, P. Otter <pam.otter@...> wrote:

and can you tell me, how can I create an emoticon while emoticons add-on
is disabled?
i think it is very good possible that you're right!
please help.
thanks in advance!
paul otter


Op 12-9-2018 om 18:26 schreef Chris via Groups.Io:

Try disabling or removing the emoticon add-on see if that helps any, as
nvda now supports emoticons itself





*From: *P. Otter <pam.otter@...>
*Sent: *12 September 2018 16:28
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject: *[nvda] problems with nvda2018.3rc1



best forum members,

I have downloaded the nvda 2018.3 rc1 and put it into use.

but I am not entirely positive, there is still something here and there.

Like, I have already experienced a number of times, that I used the

emoticon add-on, often it goes well but suddenly without any apparent

reason it gets stuck.

With alt tab I can then go back to the text where I wanted to place an

emoji.

but it is not going well. Only after I have restarted nvda again can I

place an emoticon again.

are there more people who have the same problem?

with nvda 2018.2 I did not have these problems.

do I have to update the emoticon add-on?

is it available?

with a curious greeting

paul otter








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Re: windows one core voice max rate

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Manish,

In Windows Text-to-speech settings (start typing text to speech settings in the start menu) there is a slider for "speed".  Move that further to the right to increase the speech rate.  Note that this setting as well as NVDA's speech rate together both affect how fast the voice talks, so the fastest speed would be both at max.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Manish Agrawal <manish10@...> wrote:

Hi,

I tried using the windows one core voice with NVDA today. I tried increasing the rate of speech but even at 100% the rate was slower than I would like.

The same voice, Microsoft David, can be set to a much faster rate when using narrator. With narrator, I could get David to speak almost as fast as espeakNG.

 

Has anyone else noticed this and figured out a way around this?

 

Regards,

Manish




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Re: itunes works now

Quentin Christensen
 

Ah, just saw this, in that case disregard my reply to your other message.  (Also, if you post a message like that, and then resolve it, please reply to the original message so someone first seeing that also sees immediately that it is resolved).

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 2:00 PM, Joseph Weakland <josephweakland@...> wrote:
itunes works on nvda2018rc3 on my system woot


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Re: nvda 2018 rc3 itunes issue

Quentin Christensen
 

Joseph,

Could you please send me a copy of your log?  Info at https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/LogFilesAndCrashDumps if you need.  Ideally at debug level (and recreating the problem so any errors are recorded in the log).

Send to info@...

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 1:48 PM, Joseph Weakland <josephweakland@...> wrote:
when i launch itunes with nvda rc3 running i hear a double beep tone and nvda don't speak on main window:( why is this?

using a windows 10 pc 64 bit


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windows one core voice max rate

Manish Agrawal
 

Hi,

I tried using the windows one core voice with NVDA today. I tried increasing the rate of speech but even at 100% the rate was slower than I would like.

The same voice, Microsoft David, can be set to a much faster rate when using narrator. With narrator, I could get David to speak almost as fast as espeakNG.

 

Has anyone else noticed this and figured out a way around this?

 

Regards,

Manish


Re: problems with nvda2018.3rc1

P. Otter
 

hi, I've uninstalled the emoticon add-on.
but I still can not read emoticons anymore.
what can be wrong?
i'I've installed nvda 2018.3rc1 the emoticon add-on is completely removed and also after a reboot no emoticons will be red!
that was the reason to ask I can emoticons put on or off.
thanks in advance
paul otter


Op 13-9-2018 om 18:31 schreef Chris via Groups.Io:

Because the emoticon add-on you have installed conflicts with nvda 18.3

Either go back to 18.2 or remove the add-on as its not really required anymore

Until you have removed the add-on you are going to have the issue 😃

 

 

From: P. Otter
Sent: 13 September 2018 16:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problems with nvda2018.3rc1

 

hi, please help me one mor times.
what you say was correct but how can I enable the emoji's
nvda 2018.3 rc1 don't read any emoji but i know it is possible.
 can I put it on or off somewhere and with which key combination does that have to be done?
thanks in advance

paul otter


Op 13-9-2018 om 02:14 schreef Quentin Christensen:

Hi Paul,

 

Press WINDOWS+. or WINDOWS+; to open the emoji panel, then either right arrow through the items in the current section, press tab to move to the sections and arrows to choose a new section, or start typing to search for emoji, eg "cake" 🍰, "Smiling" or "firetruck" 🚒 (as with many other search fields, you don't necessarily have to type the full thing - I typed "fire" to narrow the results down to a handful to get the fire truck).

 

Press ENTER to insert your chosen emoji, and escape to close the panel.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 5:16 AM, P. Otter <pam.otter@...> wrote:

and can you tell me, how can I create an emoticon while emoticons add-on is disabled?
i think it is very good possible that you're right!
please help.
thanks in advance!
paul otter
 

Op 12-9-2018 om 18:26 schreef Chris via Groups.Io:

Try disabling or removing the emoticon add-on see if that helps any, as nvda now supports emoticons itself

 

 

From: P. Otter
Sent: 12 September 2018 16:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] problems with nvda2018.3rc1

 

best forum members,

I have downloaded the nvda 2018.3 rc1 and put it into use.

but I am not entirely positive, there is still something here and there.

Like, I have already experienced a number of times, that I used the

emoticon add-on, often it goes well but suddenly without any apparent

reason it gets stuck.

With alt tab I can then go back to the text where I wanted to place an

emoji.

but it is not going well. Only after I have restarted nvda again can I

place an emoticon again.

are there more people who have the same problem?

with nvda 2018.2 I did not have these problems.

do I have to update the emoticon add-on?

is it available?

with a curious greeting

paul otter

 

 

 

 



 

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keybase

 

Does anyone out there use this service? I ask out of curiosity. It is decently accessible. For those who want to know more, go to this link:

Keybase


itunes works now

Joseph Weakland
 

itunes works on nvda2018rc3 on my system woot


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nvda 2018 rc3 itunes issue

Joseph Weakland
 

when i launch itunes with nvda rc3 running i hear a double beep tone and nvda don't speak on main window:( why is this?

using a windows 10 pc 64 bit


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Re: A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 04:58 PM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:
If you open Chrome, and close it and bring up Task Manager, you’ll see several instances still running.
Only if you keep the default settings.  You can go to Chrome's settings, drop open the "Advanced" section, then search for, "Continue running background apps when Google Chrome is closed," and turn that toggle off.  You won't have any Chrome process running when Chrome is actually not in use then.
 
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Re: itunes issue handled

Joseph Weakland
 

guess i'll have to upgrade to rc3 then to use itunes

On 9/13/2018 7:49 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Wow joseph and all, that was a really quick fix, itunes uia works now its just like it was.

For now I have loaded rc3 on the effected machines and it works.

Its good this came out during an near update cycle.

What was actually wrong and did my descriptions help at all.

Its good that all things work as expected though.

I have all my systems on the latest itunes now.

Thanks for promptly fixing.




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Thanks for that. I read the tweet earlier and just grabbed the update.

Sarah k Alawami
 


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On 9/13/2018 5:57 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
And RC3 resolves issues with iTunes as well: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2018-3rc3-released/

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 7:03 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
Hi,
This one resolves NVDA shortcut key problem for German users.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:48 PM
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Subject: [nvda] RC2?

I see there is now an RC 2. what has been changed?
 Brian

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Re: installing RC2 and RC3

Sarah k Alawami
 

I think mine restarted juist now, so I would say for now, no this is not normal.

On 9/13/2018 6:25 PM, Don H wrote:
Noticed when updating from RC1 to RC2 and from RC2 to RC3 NVDA didn't do a restart after the completion as updates normally do.  Is this a change in the update process?