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Re: NVDA and Excel

 

Hi,
I think I'm having similar, if not exactly the same, issue.
Basically, in Excel, when typing in a cell NVDA won't announce the character when I pressed the backspace key, or when I used the left/right arrow keys to move through the content of the cell. In addition, when I start typing into a cell, NVDA would say 'unknown'.


Joseph Lee's add-ons: mandatory update for add-ons to be released in the next few hours #addonrelease

 

Hi everyone,

 

For users of my add-ons: in a few hours I’ll be releasing updates to various add-ons, including Enhanced Touch Gestures, Golden Cursor, Systray List and others. Today’s updates are mandatory because they will make these add-ons compatible with work that was just approved for inclusion in NVDA.

 

The following add-ons are affected:

 

  • Easy Table Navigator
  • Enhanced Touch Gestures
  • Golden Cursor
  • GoldWave
  • Object Location Tones
  • ObjPad
  • Resource Monitor
  • StationPlaylist 18.09.6-LTS
  • SystrayList
  • Virtual Review

 

Updates to these add-ons will show up via Add-on Updater soon.

 

For ones not listed (Add-on Updater, stable version of StationPlaylist, and Windows 10 App Essentials), they are affected to some degree if you are using older versions of those add-ons.

 

What happens if you do not install updates for add-ons listed above: there may come a time when NVDA alpha snapshot users will find that these add-ons are not working, caused by changes to NVDA itself and use of old add-on releases (I’m giving you an early warning so you’ll know what to do now).

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Thunderbird Distribution list question

 

Chris,
Hope you wouldn't mind it.
This is an advice I give whenever I see something like your message.
Maybe you might want to just write above the quoted one. I'm sure that, doing the way you are right now, most of the people just don't see what you wrote because they just don't feel like arrowing down many many times to see what you have to say.
So maybe you'll be better doing what I advised.
However after all, it's still up to you :)

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 30/01/2019 23:33, chris miles escreveu:

On 30/01/2019 17:41, Brian Vogel wrote:
Lisa,

            I don't even know how you got to 3 entries before having problems.  I just spent about 15 minutes trying to get to a new item in the edit dialog for a List under Thunderbird and it was not easy.  I finally happened upon the following, see if it works for you.

            After you've entered the latest address to the list, hit the left mouse button or NVDA's equivalent, NumPad Divide [desktop keyboard].  This creates a blank next entry in the list directly beneath the one you've just entered, then you can hit TAB to have focus thrown to that blank entry.

            When you've entered the last address you need to enter, hitting TAB without doing the left mouse click will throw focus to the OK button to save the list.  If you accidentally didn't create the next list entry, this is where you'll be thrown when you hit TAB.  You can SHIFT+TAB to get back to the last entry you made, then hit END to get to the end of that e-mail address you entered, then follow the usual procedure of left clicking (or equivalent) to create the next blank entry, to which you can then TAB.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 

Hi,


I have installed the mail merge add on for TB.


When you tab to say CC, you can just press the first letter and it will go to the corresponding address in your address book. Hope this helps?



Re: Thunderbird Distribution list question

chris miles
 

On 30/01/2019 17:41, Brian Vogel wrote:
Lisa,

            I don't even know how you got to 3 entries before having problems.  I just spent about 15 minutes trying to get to a new item in the edit dialog for a List under Thunderbird and it was not easy.  I finally happened upon the following, see if it works for you.

            After you've entered the latest address to the list, hit the left mouse button or NVDA's equivalent, NumPad Divide [desktop keyboard].  This creates a blank next entry in the list directly beneath the one you've just entered, then you can hit TAB to have focus thrown to that blank entry.

            When you've entered the last address you need to enter, hitting TAB without doing the left mouse click will throw focus to the OK button to save the list.  If you accidentally didn't create the next list entry, this is where you'll be thrown when you hit TAB.  You can SHIFT+TAB to get back to the last entry you made, then hit END to get to the end of that e-mail address you entered, then follow the usual procedure of left clicking (or equivalent) to create the next blank entry, to which you can then TAB.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 

Hi,


I have installed the mail merge add on for TB.


When you tab to say CC, you can just press the first letter and it will go to the corresponding address in your address book. Hope this helps?


Re: add ons to copy the text on team talk

Robert Mendoza
 

Thanks. and now working

On 1/30/2019 1:27 PM, Rich DeSteno wrote:

This suggestion does indeed work with TeamTalk.  You must alt-tab to the message window, shift-tab to the history heading, arrow down to the desired message, and then you can use the usual keys to copy text, specifically, home, shift-end, then control c.

On 1/29/2019 7:36 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

It does not works I just thought once you were prompt with private message you could copy instantly the private message
and that is the main problem

On 1/30/2019 3:53 AM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
What happens if you go to the read field where the message is, go with the cursor to the point where the message starts then do a shift+end command?

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 29/01/2019 06:34, Robert Mendoza escreveu:
Wondering how you copy a certain text message sent in team talk classic
the reason of asking for this if someone sent me a private message I could not copy the text
Is there a specific add- on would you suggest. Thanks.






-- 
Rich De Steno


Re: a possible focus problem in excel 2016

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Alexandre,

As others have noted, there are more efficient ways to achieve what you are trying to do here.  Two others:
1. Move the focus to a cell in the column you wish to delete
2. Press CONTROL+SPACEBAR to select the current column.
3. Press CONTROL+MINUS to delete the column

OR
1. Move the focus to a cell in the column you wish to delete  
2. Press the APPLICATIONS KEY to open the context menu
3. Press D for "Delete"
4. DOWN ARROW to "entire column" and press ENTER.

You can also select the column, open the context menu and press D and it will delete the column.

Aside from all of that, the reason what you were originally trying to do isn't working, is that the current "object" is considered to be the entire grid of cells on the worksheet, so when you move the mouse to the object, it moves to the centre of the visible worksheet.

I think that is as accurate as it can be with the current implementation.  It may be possible to make this more accurate in future.

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 8:35 PM Alexandre Alves Toco <alexandretoco@...> wrote:

Hi friends.

I want to delete some columns in na excel spreadsheet. So I am doing the following:

  1. Find the column with the arrow Keys.
  2. Press nvda key + numpad minus to rout navigator to focus.
  3. Press nvda key + numpad divide to rout the mouse to the navigator.
  4. Press numpad slash to click the right mouse button.
  5. Choose delete column.

It is deleting the wrong column.

 

I also tried only use nvda key + divide to rout the mouse to the focus since I thought that the current cell should have the focus and the navigator would be placed in it automatically.

But it didn’t work too.

 

 

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Re: Thunderbird Distribution list question

 

The only thing I have noticed with thunderbird 60.5 is that lightning has been reinstalled and I have to go to addons manager to remove it again, once that is done thunderbird is again fully accessible.

On 31/01/2019 12:58 AM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi,

I'm sorry if this is off topic, but I am using NVDA and Thunderbird is a Mozilla product, so I thought it might be OK as I knew nowhere else to ask. I'm trying to create a distribution list in the latest version of Thunderbird and am using the latest version of NVDA on a Windows 10 desk top computer. After I get 3 entries in, it will allow me to put no more in. Is there a way to get around this? Thanks.


Re: Thunderbird Distribution list question

John Isige
 

I haven't messed with a distribution list, but at least in the address
field, if you hit end and then hit enter, it creates a new entry, e.g.
to: or cc: or whatever it is. So you might try that.

On 1/30/2019 11:41, Brian Vogel wrote:
Lisa,

            I don't even know how you got to 3 entries before having
problems.  I just spent about 15 minutes trying to get to a new item
in the edit dialog for a List under Thunderbird and it was not easy. 
I finally happened upon the following, see if it works for you.

            After you've entered the latest address to the list, hit
the left mouse button or NVDA's equivalent, NumPad Divide [desktop
keyboard].  This creates a blank next entry in the list directly
beneath the one you've just entered, then you can hit TAB to have
focus thrown to that blank entry.

            When you've entered the last address you need to enter,
hitting TAB without doing the left mouse click will throw focus to the
OK button to save the list.  If you accidentally didn't create the
next list entry, this is where you'll be thrown when you hit TAB.  You
can SHIFT+TAB to get back to the last entry you made, then hit END to
get to the end of that e-mail address you entered, then follow the
usual procedure of left clicking (or equivalent) to create the next
blank entry, to which you can then TAB.
--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

*/A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the
need for illusion is deep./*

          ~ Saul Bellow, /To Jerusalem and Back/


Re: Thunderbird Distribution list question

 

Lisa,

            I don't even know how you got to 3 entries before having problems.  I just spent about 15 minutes trying to get to a new item in the edit dialog for a List under Thunderbird and it was not easy.  I finally happened upon the following, see if it works for you.

            After you've entered the latest address to the list, hit the left mouse button or NVDA's equivalent, NumPad Divide [desktop keyboard].  This creates a blank next entry in the list directly beneath the one you've just entered, then you can hit TAB to have focus thrown to that blank entry.

            When you've entered the last address you need to enter, hitting TAB without doing the left mouse click will throw focus to the OK button to save the list.  If you accidentally didn't create the next list entry, this is where you'll be thrown when you hit TAB.  You can SHIFT+TAB to get back to the last entry you made, then hit END to get to the end of that e-mail address you entered, then follow the usual procedure of left clicking (or equivalent) to create the next blank entry, to which you can then TAB.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: NVDA works slowly in excel 2016

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Adriani,


Again I will chime in on this one.  I do not have any add ons in the Office 365 suite and I have tried this issue by restarting NVDA with add ons disabled.


On 1/30/2019 7:36 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:
Hello,

do you have any addins installed in MS Office? Please check in Options / security Center or Options / addins. Especially com addins are causing Performance issues.
Do you have many comment in the spreasheet? This still causes Problems in Office 365 with NVDA. But I think there is already a pull request to improve this.

Best
Adriani


Am Mi., 30. Jan. 2019 um 13:06 Uhr schrieb Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...>:
Hello!

It is not needed to have nothing of that...

My spreadsheet do not have nothing of that and it is also slow...

Here it is the relevant part of the log file, obtained after restarting
without addons...

The voice have a delay of more than 1 second...
Microsoft Excel of Office 365...

NVDA version alpha-16639,504da10d
Using Windows version 10.0.17763 workstation

INFO - core.main (11:35:02.371):
Add-ons are disabled. Restart NVDA to enable them.

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:35:04.750):
Loaded synthDriver oneCore
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:04.750):
Cancelling

IO - speech.speak (11:35:28.401):
Speaking [u'Vocalizer-nvda.xls  -  Modo de Compatibilidade - Excel']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:28.401):
Begin processing speech
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (11:35:28.411):
Potential unimplemented child class:
<NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible object at 0x04ED5C10>
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:28.440):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 7802 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._callback (11:35:28.450):
Done pushing audio
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:28.450):
Calling idle on audio player
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown
(11:35:28.490):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects
IO - speech.speak (11:35:28.510):
Speaking [u'Licen\xe7as  tabela']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:30.500):
Cancelling
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:30.510):
Queue empty, done processing
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.510):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8731 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.510):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8732 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.510):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8733 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.519):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8734 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8735 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8736 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8737 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8738 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8739 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8740 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:35:33.536):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:33.552):
Cancelling
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (11:35:33.582):
C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\library.zip\keyboardHandler.py:524:
DeprecationWarning: Yield() is deprecated
IO - speech.speak (11:35:34.716):
Speaking [u'25/12/2018  B3394  3393']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:34.732):
Begin processing speech
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (11:35:34.732):
Potential unimplemented child class: <NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelCell
object at 0x0383BF90>
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:34.732):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 9404 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:34.732):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 9406 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:34.732):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 9733 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._callback (11:35:34.931):
Done pushing audio
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:34.931):
Calling idle on audio player
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:35:36.569):
Input: kb(desktop):rightArrow
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:36.598):
Cancelling
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:36.608):
Queue empty, done processing
IO - speech.speak (11:35:37.799):
Speaking [u'Jan Hancharov  C3394  Nome']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:37.822):
Begin processing speech
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (11:35:37.822):
Potential unimplemented child class: <NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelCell
object at 0x04F2FE30>
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:37.822):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 10070 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:37.822):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 10072 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:37.822):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 10400 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._callback (11:35:37.888):
Done pushing audio
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:37.888):
Calling idle on audio player
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:40.515):
Queue empty, done processing
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:35:44.996):
Input: kb(desktop):rightArrow
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:45.012):
Cancelling
IO - speech.speak (11:35:46.158):
Speaking [u'Online  D3394  Dealer']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:46.174):




Às 06:29 de 30/01/2019, Dang Manh Cuong escreveu:
> Hi Quentin
> Yes the file I work has some cells contains dropdown, and I send you the
> log of NVDA from my laptop:
> INFO - __main__ (13:24:22.020):
> Starting NVDA
> INFO - core.main (13:24:22.223):
> Config dir: C:\Users\Administrator.DOYR0UO74O699VE\AppData\Roaming\nvda
> INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:24:22.223):
> Loading config:
> C:\Users\Administrator.DOYR0UO74O699VE\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
> INFO - core.main (13:24:22.519):
> NVDA version 2018.4.1
> INFO - core.main (13:24:22.519):
> Using Windows version 10.0.17763 workstation
> INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
> Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17)
> [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
> INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
> Using comtypes version 1.1.3
> INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
> Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (13:24:23.091):
> Loaded synthDriver oneCore
> INFO - core.main (13:24:23.091):
> Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (13:24:23.091):
> Braille input initialized
> INFO - braille.initialize (13:24:23.091):
> Using liblouis version 3.7.0
> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:24:23.091):
> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
> INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (13:24:23.361):
> UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
> INFO - core.main (13:24:23.941):
> NVDA initialized
> Cuong
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>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Quentin Christensen <mailto:quentin@...>
>     *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, January 30, 2019 12:42 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA works slowly in excel 2016
>
>     I wonder if it is related to this issue:
>     https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7348
>
>     Essentially if you have elements like comments or drop-downs in your
>     sheet it currently causes a slowdown with NVDA in Excel.  Often you
>     may see the focus move immediately but have a delay before NVDA
>     starts speaking as mentioned.
>
>     If it looks different to that issue, if you could send me a log,
>     particularly at Debug level, I can have a look and see if we can see
>     anything new in there.
>
>     Kind regards
>
>     Quentin.
>
>     On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 4:07 PM Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...
>     <mailto:michaelrbms@...>> wrote:
>
>         Hi, regard to your question about the latency in Excel with NVDA
>         running 18.4.
>         I has happen to face the same issue with it using the same built
>         of screen reader and operating system. This is not an issue that
>         you created. this issue is more on the Microsoft's side.
>         I will email Quentin and hear his input .relate to this regard.
>         Thanks
>         Best regards
>         michael Munn
>
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>
>
>
>         On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 11:29 PM Dang Manh Cuong
>         <dangmanhcuong@... <mailto:dangmanhcuong@...>> wrote:
>
>             __
>             Hi to all
>             Using Windows 10 1809 64 bit, NVDA 2018.4.1, and it works
>             slowly in Excel 2016. For example, focus stand at cell A5,
>             then I press right arrow to navigate to B5. I saw the cursor
>             moved to b5 immediately, but I must wait for about a second
>             to have NVDA read it. In Excel options, I just turn off
>             something like show mini toolbar on selection, enable live
>             preview.
>             My workbook just has 1 sheed with about 100 rows, and 7
>             columns, and auto filter is turn on for easily look up data.
>             I can create an issue on git hub for this, but I'm not sure
>             that is error from NVDA or I did something that I shouldn't
>             so I ask here before deciding
>             Any help would be appreciated.
>             Cuong
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Re: NVDA works slowly in excel 2016

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


I have stayed out of this for a while, but since I see one report that reflects what I say, I also will say that without any comments or complex formulas, I also get a great delay 1 or 2 seconds per keystroke within Excel from 2016 365.  This goes back a while.  I didn't complain too much because it still works and if I use JAWS where the problem doesn't exist, I have to pay.  I use my Excel as a simple spread sheet/database for my disc contents of music and movies.  There is nothing fancy about this and I do indeed have this sluggishness.

On 1/30/2019 7:05 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!

It is not needed to have nothing of that...

My spreadsheet do not have nothing of that and it is also slow...

Here it is the relevant part of the log file, obtained after restarting without addons...

The voice have a delay of more than 1 second...
Microsoft Excel of Office 365...

NVDA version alpha-16639,504da10d
Using Windows version 10.0.17763 workstation

INFO - core.main (11:35:02.371):
Add-ons are disabled. Restart NVDA to enable them.

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:35:04.750):
Loaded synthDriver oneCore
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:04.750):
Cancelling

IO - speech.speak (11:35:28.401):
Speaking [u'Vocalizer-nvda.xls  -  Modo de Compatibilidade - Excel']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:28.401):
Begin processing speech
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (11:35:28.411):
Potential unimplemented child class: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible object at 0x04ED5C10>
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:28.440):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 7802 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._callback (11:35:28.450):
Done pushing audio
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:28.450):
Calling idle on audio player
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown (11:35:28.490):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects
IO - speech.speak (11:35:28.510):
Speaking [u'Licen\xe7as  tabela']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:30.500):
Cancelling
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:30.510):
Queue empty, done processing
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.510):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8731 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.510):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8732 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.510):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8733 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.519):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8734 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8735 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8736 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8737 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8738 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8739 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8740 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:35:33.536):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:33.552):
Cancelling
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (11:35:33.582):
C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\library.zip\keyboardHandler.py:524: DeprecationWarning: Yield() is deprecated
IO - speech.speak (11:35:34.716):
Speaking [u'25/12/2018  B3394  3393']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:34.732):
Begin processing speech
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (11:35:34.732):
Potential unimplemented child class: <NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelCell object at 0x0383BF90>
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:34.732):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 9404 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:34.732):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 9406 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:34.732):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 9733 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._callback (11:35:34.931):
Done pushing audio
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:34.931):
Calling idle on audio player
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:35:36.569):
Input: kb(desktop):rightArrow
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:36.598):
Cancelling
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:36.608):
Queue empty, done processing
IO - speech.speak (11:35:37.799):
Speaking [u'Jan Hancharov  C3394  Nome']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:37.822):
Begin processing speech
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (11:35:37.822):
Potential unimplemented child class: <NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelCell object at 0x04F2FE30>
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:37.822):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 10070 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:37.822):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 10072 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:37.822):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 10400 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._callback (11:35:37.888):
Done pushing audio
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:37.888):
Calling idle on audio player
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:40.515):
Queue empty, done processing
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:35:44.996):
Input: kb(desktop):rightArrow
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:45.012):
Cancelling
IO - speech.speak (11:35:46.158):
Speaking [u'Online  D3394  Dealer']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:46.174):




Às 06:29 de 30/01/2019, Dang Manh Cuong escreveu:
Hi Quentin
Yes the file I work has some cells contains dropdown, and I send you the log of NVDA from my laptop:
INFO - __main__ (13:24:22.020):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.223):
Config dir: C:\Users\Administrator.DOYR0UO74O699VE\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:24:22.223):
Loading config: C:\Users\Administrator.DOYR0UO74O699VE\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.519):
NVDA version 2018.4.1
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.519):
Using Windows version 10.0.17763 workstation
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (13:24:23.091):
Loaded synthDriver oneCore
INFO - core.main (13:24:23.091):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (13:24:23.091):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (13:24:23.091):
Using liblouis version 3.7.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:24:23.091):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (13:24:23.361):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
INFO - core.main (13:24:23.941):
NVDA initialized
Cuong
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    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Quentin Christensen <mailto:quentin@nvaccess.org>
    *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
    *Sent:* Wednesday, January 30, 2019 12:42 PM
    *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA works slowly in excel 2016

    I wonder if it is related to this issue:
    https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7348

    Essentially if you have elements like comments or drop-downs in your
    sheet it currently causes a slowdown with NVDA in Excel. Often you
    may see the focus move immediately but have a delay before NVDA
    starts speaking as mentioned.

    If it looks different to that issue, if you could send me a log,
    particularly at Debug level, I can have a look and see if we can see
    anything new in there.

    Kind regards

    Quentin.

    On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 4:07 PM Michael Munn <michaelrbms@gmail.com
    <mailto:michaelrbms@gmail.com>> wrote:

        Hi, regard to your question about the latency in Excel with NVDA
        running 18.4.
        I has happen to face the same issue with it using the same built
        of screen reader and operating system. This is not an issue that
        you created. this issue is more on the Microsoft's side.
        I will email Quentin and hear his input .relate to this regard.
        Thanks
        Best regards
        michael Munn

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        On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 11:29 PM Dang Manh Cuong
        <dangmanhcuong@gmail.com <mailto:dangmanhcuong@gmail.com>> wrote:

            __
            Hi to all
            Using Windows 10 1809 64 bit, NVDA 2018.4.1, and it works
            slowly in Excel 2016. For example, focus stand at cell A5,
            then I press right arrow to navigate to B5. I saw the cursor
            moved to b5 immediately, but I must wait for about a second
            to have NVDA read it. In Excel options, I just turn off
            something like show mini toolbar on selection, enable live
            preview.
            My workbook just has 1 sheed with about 100 rows, and 7
            columns, and auto filter is turn on for easily look up data.
            I can create an issue on git hub for this, but I'm not sure
            that is error from NVDA or I did something that I shouldn't
            so I ask here before deciding
            Any help would be appreciated.
            Cuong
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Re: Command for continuous reading not working, request for help

Kakarla Nageswaraiah
 

Hello,
Thanks for the help as well.
Using the command, I switched back to desktop layout.
Regards.

On 1/30/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Glad Gene got you working!

In the Keyboard settings, you can select whether NVDA uses desktop keyboard
layout or laptop keyboard layout. Essentially the difference is that
desktop layout assumes you have a number pad, and uses that for object
navigation commands. Laptop layout assumes you don't have a number pad,
and uses other keys for object navigation, in the process bumping some
other commands as well.

To choose which layout you use, press NVDA+control+k to open the keyboard
settings directly, then choose a layout and any other options you wish to
change.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 2:05 AM Kakarla Nageswaraiah <
nageswara1982@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
Thanks for the prompt reply, it worked!


On 1/29/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you using the laptop keyboard layout? The command in that layout
is
NVDA key a.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 7:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Command for continuous reading not working, request for
help


Dear All,

I'm using a laptop with Windows 10 OS but the command for continuous
reading is not working. I tried caps lock + down arrow as well as
insert + down arrow.
Thanks and regards.


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Re: NVDA works slowly in excel 2016

Adriani Botez
 

Hello,

do you have any addins installed in MS Office? Please check in Options / security Center or Options / addins. Especially com addins are causing Performance issues.
Do you have many comment in the spreasheet? This still causes Problems in Office 365 with NVDA. But I think there is already a pull request to improve this.

Best
Adriani


Am Mi., 30. Jan. 2019 um 13:06 Uhr schrieb Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...>:

Hello!

It is not needed to have nothing of that...

My spreadsheet do not have nothing of that and it is also slow...

Here it is the relevant part of the log file, obtained after restarting
without addons...

The voice have a delay of more than 1 second...
Microsoft Excel of Office 365...

NVDA version alpha-16639,504da10d
Using Windows version 10.0.17763 workstation

INFO - core.main (11:35:02.371):
Add-ons are disabled. Restart NVDA to enable them.

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:35:04.750):
Loaded synthDriver oneCore
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:04.750):
Cancelling

IO - speech.speak (11:35:28.401):
Speaking [u'Vocalizer-nvda.xls  -  Modo de Compatibilidade - Excel']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:28.401):
Begin processing speech
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (11:35:28.411):
Potential unimplemented child class:
<NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible object at 0x04ED5C10>
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:28.440):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 7802 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._callback (11:35:28.450):
Done pushing audio
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:28.450):
Calling idle on audio player
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown
(11:35:28.490):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects
IO - speech.speak (11:35:28.510):
Speaking [u'Licen\xe7as  tabela']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:30.500):
Cancelling
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:30.510):
Queue empty, done processing
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.510):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8731 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.510):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8732 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.510):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8733 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.519):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8734 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8735 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8736 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8737 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8738 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8739 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8740 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:35:33.536):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:33.552):
Cancelling
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (11:35:33.582):
C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\library.zip\keyboardHandler.py:524:
DeprecationWarning: Yield() is deprecated
IO - speech.speak (11:35:34.716):
Speaking [u'25/12/2018  B3394  3393']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:34.732):
Begin processing speech
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (11:35:34.732):
Potential unimplemented child class: <NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelCell
object at 0x0383BF90>
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:34.732):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 9404 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:34.732):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 9406 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:34.732):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 9733 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._callback (11:35:34.931):
Done pushing audio
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:34.931):
Calling idle on audio player
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:35:36.569):
Input: kb(desktop):rightArrow
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:36.598):
Cancelling
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:36.608):
Queue empty, done processing
IO - speech.speak (11:35:37.799):
Speaking [u'Jan Hancharov  C3394  Nome']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:37.822):
Begin processing speech
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (11:35:37.822):
Potential unimplemented child class: <NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelCell
object at 0x04F2FE30>
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:37.822):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 10070 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:37.822):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 10072 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:37.822):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 10400 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._callback (11:35:37.888):
Done pushing audio
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:37.888):
Calling idle on audio player
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:40.515):
Queue empty, done processing
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:35:44.996):
Input: kb(desktop):rightArrow
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:45.012):
Cancelling
IO - speech.speak (11:35:46.158):
Speaking [u'Online  D3394  Dealer']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:46.174):




Às 06:29 de 30/01/2019, Dang Manh Cuong escreveu:
> Hi Quentin
> Yes the file I work has some cells contains dropdown, and I send you the
> log of NVDA from my laptop:
> INFO - __main__ (13:24:22.020):
> Starting NVDA
> INFO - core.main (13:24:22.223):
> Config dir: C:\Users\Administrator.DOYR0UO74O699VE\AppData\Roaming\nvda
> INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:24:22.223):
> Loading config:
> C:\Users\Administrator.DOYR0UO74O699VE\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
> INFO - core.main (13:24:22.519):
> NVDA version 2018.4.1
> INFO - core.main (13:24:22.519):
> Using Windows version 10.0.17763 workstation
> INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
> Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17)
> [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
> INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
> Using comtypes version 1.1.3
> INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
> Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (13:24:23.091):
> Loaded synthDriver oneCore
> INFO - core.main (13:24:23.091):
> Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (13:24:23.091):
> Braille input initialized
> INFO - braille.initialize (13:24:23.091):
> Using liblouis version 3.7.0
> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:24:23.091):
> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
> INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (13:24:23.361):
> UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
> INFO - core.main (13:24:23.941):
> NVDA initialized
> Cuong
> ----------------
> Dang Manh Cuong
>   The Assistive technology specialist
>   Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
> 52/22 Huynh Thien Loc St., Hoa Thanh ward, Tan Phu dist., HCM, Vietnam.
>   Tel: +8428 7302-4488
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>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Quentin Christensen <mailto:quentin@...>
>     *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, January 30, 2019 12:42 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA works slowly in excel 2016
>
>     I wonder if it is related to this issue:
>     https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7348
>
>     Essentially if you have elements like comments or drop-downs in your
>     sheet it currently causes a slowdown with NVDA in Excel.  Often you
>     may see the focus move immediately but have a delay before NVDA
>     starts speaking as mentioned.
>
>     If it looks different to that issue, if you could send me a log,
>     particularly at Debug level, I can have a look and see if we can see
>     anything new in there.
>
>     Kind regards
>
>     Quentin.
>
>     On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 4:07 PM Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...
>     <mailto:michaelrbms@...>> wrote:
>
>         Hi, regard to your question about the latency in Excel with NVDA
>         running 18.4.
>         I has happen to face the same issue with it using the same built
>         of screen reader and operating system. This is not an issue that
>         you created. this issue is more on the Microsoft's side.
>         I will email Quentin and hear his input .relate to this regard.
>         Thanks
>         Best regards
>         michael Munn
>
>         Michael Munn
>         Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
>           National Federation of the Blind of   Virginia www.nfbv.org
>         <http://www.nfbv.org>
>         Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
>         National Federation of the Blind of  Maryland www.nfbmd.org
>         <http://www.nfbmd.org>
>         Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
>         www.hadley.edu <http://www.hadley.edu>
>
>
>
>
>         On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 11:29 PM Dang Manh Cuong
>         <dangmanhcuong@... <mailto:dangmanhcuong@...>> wrote:
>
>             __
>             Hi to all
>             Using Windows 10 1809 64 bit, NVDA 2018.4.1, and it works
>             slowly in Excel 2016. For example, focus stand at cell A5,
>             then I press right arrow to navigate to B5. I saw the cursor
>             moved to b5 immediately, but I must wait for about a second
>             to have NVDA read it. In Excel options, I just turn off
>             something like show mini toolbar on selection, enable live
>             preview.
>             My workbook just has 1 sheed with about 100 rows, and 7
>             columns, and auto filter is turn on for easily look up data.
>             I can create an issue on git hub for this, but I'm not sure
>             that is error from NVDA or I did something that I shouldn't
>             so I ask here before deciding
>             Any help would be appreciated.
>             Cuong
>             ----------------
>             Dang Manh Cuong
>               The Assistive technology specialist
>               Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
>             52/22 Huynh Thien Loc St., Hoa Thanh ward, Tan Phu dist.,
>             HCM, Vietnam.
>               Tel: +8428 7302-4488
>               E-mail: info@...
>             <mailto:info@...>; tech@...
>             <mailto:tech@...>
>               Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/saomaicenterfortheblind
>               Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org;
>             http://www.saomaicenter.org
>             Mobile / Viber / WhatsApp / Zalo: +84 902-572-300
>               E-mail: dangmanhcuong@...
>             <mailto:dangmanhcuong@...>; cuong@...
>             <mailto:cuong@...>
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>
>
>
>     --
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>     Training and Support Manager
>
>     Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now
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>




Re: NVDA works slowly in excel 2016

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

It is not needed to have nothing of that...

My spreadsheet do not have nothing of that and it is also slow...

Here it is the relevant part of the log file, obtained after restarting without addons...

The voice have a delay of more than 1 second...
Microsoft Excel of Office 365...

NVDA version alpha-16639,504da10d
Using Windows version 10.0.17763 workstation

INFO - core.main (11:35:02.371):
Add-ons are disabled. Restart NVDA to enable them.

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:35:04.750):
Loaded synthDriver oneCore
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:04.750):
Cancelling

IO - speech.speak (11:35:28.401):
Speaking [u'Vocalizer-nvda.xls - Modo de Compatibilidade - Excel']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:28.401):
Begin processing speech
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (11:35:28.411):
Potential unimplemented child class: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible object at 0x04ED5C10>
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:28.440):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 7802 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._callback (11:35:28.450):
Done pushing audio
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:28.450):
Calling idle on audio player
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown (11:35:28.490):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects
IO - speech.speak (11:35:28.510):
Speaking [u'Licen\xe7as tabela']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:30.500):
Cancelling
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:30.510):
Queue empty, done processing
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.510):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8731 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.510):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8732 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.510):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8733 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.519):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8734 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8735 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8736 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8737 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8738 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8739 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8740 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:35:33.536):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:33.552):
Cancelling
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (11:35:33.582):
C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\library.zip\keyboardHandler.py:524: DeprecationWarning: Yield() is deprecated
IO - speech.speak (11:35:34.716):
Speaking [u'25/12/2018 B3394 3393']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:34.732):
Begin processing speech
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (11:35:34.732):
Potential unimplemented child class: <NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelCell object at 0x0383BF90>
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:34.732):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 9404 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:34.732):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 9406 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:34.732):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 9733 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._callback (11:35:34.931):
Done pushing audio
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:34.931):
Calling idle on audio player
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:35:36.569):
Input: kb(desktop):rightArrow
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:36.598):
Cancelling
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:36.608):
Queue empty, done processing
IO - speech.speak (11:35:37.799):
Speaking [u'Jan Hancharov C3394 Nome']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:37.822):
Begin processing speech
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (11:35:37.822):
Potential unimplemented child class: <NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelCell object at 0x04F2FE30>
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:37.822):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 10070 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:37.822):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 10072 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:37.822):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 10400 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._callback (11:35:37.888):
Done pushing audio
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:37.888):
Calling idle on audio player
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:40.515):
Queue empty, done processing
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:35:44.996):
Input: kb(desktop):rightArrow
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:45.012):
Cancelling
IO - speech.speak (11:35:46.158):
Speaking [u'Online D3394 Dealer']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:46.174):




Às 06:29 de 30/01/2019, Dang Manh Cuong escreveu:

Hi Quentin
Yes the file I work has some cells contains dropdown, and I send you the log of NVDA from my laptop:
INFO - __main__ (13:24:22.020):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.223):
Config dir: C:\Users\Administrator.DOYR0UO74O699VE\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:24:22.223):
Loading config: C:\Users\Administrator.DOYR0UO74O699VE\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.519):
NVDA version 2018.4.1
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.519):
Using Windows version 10.0.17763 workstation
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (13:24:23.091):
Loaded synthDriver oneCore
INFO - core.main (13:24:23.091):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (13:24:23.091):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (13:24:23.091):
Using liblouis version 3.7.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:24:23.091):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (13:24:23.361):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
INFO - core.main (13:24:23.941):
NVDA initialized
Cuong
----------------
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 The Assistive technology specialist
 Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
52/22 Huynh Thien Loc St., Hoa Thanh ward, Tan Phu dist., HCM, Vietnam.
 Tel: +8428 7302-4488
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----- Original Message -----
*From:* Quentin Christensen <mailto:quentin@nvaccess.org>
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 30, 2019 12:42 PM
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA works slowly in excel 2016
I wonder if it is related to this issue:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7348
Essentially if you have elements like comments or drop-downs in your
sheet it currently causes a slowdown with NVDA in Excel.  Often you
may see the focus move immediately but have a delay before NVDA
starts speaking as mentioned.
If it looks different to that issue, if you could send me a log,
particularly at Debug level, I can have a look and see if we can see
anything new in there.
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 4:07 PM Michael Munn <michaelrbms@gmail.com
<mailto:michaelrbms@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, regard to your question about the latency in Excel with NVDA
running 18.4.
I has happen to face the same issue with it using the same built
of screen reader and operating system. This is not an issue that
you created. this issue is more on the Microsoft's side.
I will email Quentin and hear his input .relate to this regard.
Thanks
Best regards
michael Munn
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
 National Federation of the Blind of   Virginia www.nfbv.org
<http://www.nfbv.org>
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
National Federation of the Blind of  Maryland www.nfbmd.org
<http://www.nfbmd.org>
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
www.hadley.edu <http://www.hadley.edu>
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 11:29 PM Dang Manh Cuong
<dangmanhcuong@gmail.com <mailto:dangmanhcuong@gmail.com>> wrote:
__
Hi to all
Using Windows 10 1809 64 bit, NVDA 2018.4.1, and it works
slowly in Excel 2016. For example, focus stand at cell A5,
then I press right arrow to navigate to B5. I saw the cursor
moved to b5 immediately, but I must wait for about a second
to have NVDA read it. In Excel options, I just turn off
something like show mini toolbar on selection, enable live
preview.
My workbook just has 1 sheed with about 100 rows, and 7
columns, and auto filter is turn on for easily look up data.
I can create an issue on git hub for this, but I'm not sure
that is error from NVDA or I did something that I shouldn't
so I ask here before deciding
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong
----------------
Dang Manh Cuong
 The Assistive technology specialist
 Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
52/22 Huynh Thien Loc St., Hoa Thanh ward, Tan Phu dist.,
HCM, Vietnam.
 Tel: +8428 7302-4488
 E-mail: info@saomaicenter.org
<mailto:info@saomaicenter.org>; tech@saomaicenter.org
<mailto:tech@saomaicenter.org>
 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/saomaicenterfortheblind
 Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org;
http://www.saomaicenter.org
Mobile / Viber / WhatsApp / Zalo: +84 902-572-300
 E-mail: dangmanhcuong@gmail.com
<mailto:dangmanhcuong@gmail.com>; cuong@saomaicenter.org
<mailto:cuong@saomaicenter.org>
 Skype name: dangmanhcuong
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Thunderbird Distribution list question

Lisa P Geibel
 

Hi,

I'm sorry if this is off topic, but I am using NVDA and Thunderbird is a Mozilla product, so I thought it might be OK as I knew nowhere else to ask. I'm trying to create a distribution list in the latest version of Thunderbird and am using the latest version of NVDA on a Windows 10 desk top computer. After I get 3 entries in, it will allow me to put no more in. Is there a way to get around this? Thanks.

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Re: a possible focus problem in excel 2016

Rui Fontes
 

Thanks by this shortcut!
In the brazilian keyboard also works.
For you it is the ; (semi colon) key.
In the portuguese keyboard is the - (dash) key...

Rui Fontes


Às 10:18 de 30/01/2019, Adriani Botez escreveu:

Hello,
wow why are you doing it this way? It is much too complicated. Try following:
1. Place the Focus on a cell in the column you want to delete
2. Press ctrl+/ (the first key on the left of the right shift key(
3. A Dialog appears where you can choose what you want to delete (column, cell or row)
Best
Adriani
Am Mi., 30. Jan. 2019 um 10:35 Uhr schrieb Alexandre Alves Toco <alexandretoco@gmail.com <mailto:alexandretoco@gmail.com>>:
Hi friends.
I want to delete some columns in na excel spreadsheet. So I am doing
the following:
1. Find the column with the arrow Keys.
2. Press nvda key + numpad minus to rout navigator to focus.
3. Press nvda key + numpad divide to rout the mouse to the navigator.
4. Press numpad slash to click the right mouse button.
5. Choose delete column.
It is deleting the wrong column.
__ __
I also tried only use nvda key + divide to rout the mouse to the
focus since I thought that the current cell should have the focus
and the navigator would be placed in it automatically.
But it didn’t work too.
__ __
__ __
Enviado do Email <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
para Windows 10
__ __


Re: a possible focus problem in excel 2016

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Hello,

Hmm, find the column you want to delete and hit Alt-h d c

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alexandre Alves Toco
Sent: Mittwoch, 30. Januar 2019 10:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] a possible focus problem in excel 2016

 

Hi friends.

I want to delete some columns in na excel spreadsheet. So I am doing the following:

  1. Find the column with the arrow Keys.
  2. Press nvda key + numpad minus to rout navigator to focus.
  3. Press nvda key + numpad divide to rout the mouse to the navigator.
  4. Press numpad slash to click the right mouse button.
  5. Choose delete column.

It is deleting the wrong column.

 

I also tried only use nvda key + divide to rout the mouse to the focus since I thought that the current cell should have the focus and the navigator would be placed in it automatically.

But it didn’t work too.

 

 

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Re: a possible focus problem in excel 2016

Adriani Botez
 

Hello,

wow why are you doing it this way? It is much too complicated. Try following:
1. Place the Focus on a cell in the column you want to delete
2. Press ctrl+/ (the first key on the left of the right shift key(
3. A Dialog appears where you can choose what you want to delete (column, cell or row)

Best
Adriani



Am Mi., 30. Jan. 2019 um 10:35 Uhr schrieb Alexandre Alves Toco <alexandretoco@...>:

Hi friends.

I want to delete some columns in na excel spreadsheet. So I am doing the following:

  1. Find the column with the arrow Keys.
  2. Press nvda key + numpad minus to rout navigator to focus.
  3. Press nvda key + numpad divide to rout the mouse to the navigator.
  4. Press numpad slash to click the right mouse button.
  5. Choose delete column.

It is deleting the wrong column.

 

I also tried only use nvda key + divide to rout the mouse to the focus since I thought that the current cell should have the focus and the navigator would be placed in it automatically.

But it didn’t work too.

 

 

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Re: add ons to copy the text on team talk

Rich DeSteno
 

This suggestion does indeed work with TeamTalk.  You must alt-tab to the message window, shift-tab to the history heading, arrow down to the desired message, and then you can use the usual keys to copy text, specifically, home, shift-end, then control c.

On 1/29/2019 7:36 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

It does not works I just thought once you were prompt with private message you could copy instantly the private message
and that is the main problem

On 1/30/2019 3:53 AM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
What happens if you go to the read field where the message is, go with the cursor to the point where the message starts then do a shift+end command?

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 29/01/2019 06:34, Robert Mendoza escreveu:
Wondering how you copy a certain text message sent in team talk classic
the reason of asking for this if someone sent me a private message I could not copy the text
Is there a specific add- on would you suggest. Thanks.






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a possible focus problem in excel 2016

Alexandre Alves Toco
 

Hi friends.

I want to delete some columns in na excel spreadsheet. So I am doing the following:

  1. Find the column with the arrow Keys.
  2. Press nvda key + numpad minus to rout navigator to focus.
  3. Press nvda key + numpad divide to rout the mouse to the navigator.
  4. Press numpad slash to click the right mouse button.
  5. Choose delete column.

It is deleting the wrong column.

 

I also tried only use nvda key + divide to rout the mouse to the focus since I thought that the current cell should have the focus and the navigator would be placed in it automatically.

But it didn’t work too.

 

 

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