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Re: new facebook captcha

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The daft part is that all of these can probably be done with seeing AI.

Not that everyone has an apple device of course or maybe they will fund the use of aira at megabucks an hour so we could use their site?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2018 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] new facebook captcha


How ridiculous is right. I guess they think we're robots.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 7:01 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] new facebook captcha

Hello list. It now appears that Facebook is using a new captcha to prove your account isn't spam. It's not the easiest thing in the world to solve captchas at this time. I'm not willing to run an older version of a browser to do so.


Another thing is that Facebook should make this test possible for the blind to pass without much hassle. Has anyone else seen this new test pop up? These things say we're not human because we can't read or solve a picture puzzle. How ridiculous!!!


Re: new facebook captcha

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But it is not hard to do. Many many sites seem to have solved the problem without resorting to pretty pictures.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2018 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] new facebook captcha


Hi Group,


I hate to be the barer of bad news, but with continued deregulation of
the Internet and an absolute abandonment of accessibility in education
by the current crowd in Washington, I think more and more, such appeals
will fall on deaf ears. We're simply too small a market to justify the
resources to create such accessibility instruments.



On 8/31/2018 10:36 PM, Governor staten wrote:

I wrote this little ditty to Facebook accessibility. I had the wrong
address. However, I have commented on a Facebook post about this
captcha issue. What I wrote follows. It probalby isn't perfect in tone.


"Hello. My name is Governor Staten. I'm sending this to remonstrate
with you about this new captcha that has been implemented to prevent
fake accounts. I"m a totally blind user, and this captcha is
completely impossible for me to solve without sighted assistance, or
some other tool I cannot yet access. I use your service every single
day. Some things I do on it are deemed as essential to me, my friends,
and organizations I am a part of.


Why is there no alternative given to make it possible for the blind to
solve this captcha, therefore proving that we are not a spam account,
and also proving we are human? Why is it that not being able to solve
a purely visual construct makes us not human? It is honestly quite
degrading to have it implied that because I cannot solve this captcha
that I could be considered a spam account and not a real human being,
the same human being who is writing this email to you. This issue is
urgent and must be solved immediately!!!


Someone that is as dedicated to accessibility as your organization
evidently is should not be making such errors as the one mentioned
above. There are a few ways in which this can be solved. For instance,
an audio captcha, or asking a question that we can then answer,
proving we are human. One more way that I have just contemplated is to
use the code generator to provide the answer to the captcha. Have a
mode in which it provides these answers if you are blind and/or
visually impaired. I'm sure there are other quite inventive ways I
haven't yet thought of that could be used as well.


This is all to say that something must be done at your soonest
opportunity to do so. I hope that this is not long languishing in a
pile that is not urgent or not looked at."




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On 8/31/2018 10:23 PM, Lino Morales wrote:

Yes Govsta and it sucks.

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Windows 10

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*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of
Governor staten <@Govsta>
*Sent:* Friday, August 31, 2018 10:00:49 PM
*To:* nvda@groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] new facebook captcha
Hello list. It now appears that Facebook is using a new captcha to prove
your account isn't spam. It's not the easiest thing in the world to
solve captchas at this time. I'm not willing to run an older version of
a browser to do so.


Another thing is that Facebook should make this test possible for the
blind to pass without much hassle. Has anyone else seen this new test
pop up? These things say we're not human because we can't read or solve
a picture puzzle. How ridiculous!!!



--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"




Re: new facebook captcha

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

In the US somebody needs to invoke the ADA and make it public I think. Sounds like a cock up to me. I boycott sites that routinely use these. I encountered one the other day on Amazon Alexa, but logging in in a different way did not present it

It said, please click on the picture with a house in it, Like what?
Brian.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Governor staten" <@Govsta>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2018 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] new facebook captcha


I wrote this little ditty to Facebook accessibility. I had the wrong
address. However, I have commented on a Facebook post about this captcha
issue. What I wrote follows. It probalby isn't perfect in tone.


"Hello. My name is Governor Staten. I'm sending this to remonstrate with
you about this new captcha that has been implemented to prevent fake
accounts. I"m a totally blind user, and this captcha is completely
impossible for me to solve without sighted assistance, or some other
tool I cannot yet access. I use your service every single day. Some
things I do on it are deemed as essential to me, my friends, and
organizations I am a part of.


Why is there no alternative given to make it possible for the blind to
solve this captcha, therefore proving that we are not a spam account,
and also proving we are human? Why is it that not being able to solve a
purely visual construct makes us not human? It is honestly quite
degrading to have it implied that because I cannot solve this captcha
that I could be considered a spam account and not a real human being,
the same human being who is writing this email to you. This issue is
urgent and must be solved immediately!!!


Someone that is as dedicated to accessibility as your organization
evidently is should not be making such errors as the one mentioned
above. There are a few ways in which this can be solved. For instance,
an audio captcha, or asking a question that we can then answer, proving
we are human. One more way that I have just contemplated is to use the
code generator to provide the answer to the captcha. Have a mode in
which it provides these answers if you are blind and/or visually
impaired. I'm sure there are other quite inventive ways I haven't yet
thought of that could be used as well.


This is all to say that something must be done at your soonest
opportunity to do so. I hope that this is not long languishing in a pile
that is not urgent or not looked at."




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On 8/31/2018 10:23 PM, Lino Morales wrote:

Yes Govsta and it sucks.

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Windows 10

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*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of
Governor staten <@Govsta>
*Sent:* Friday, August 31, 2018 10:00:49 PM
*To:* nvda@groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] new facebook captcha
Hello list. It now appears that Facebook is using a new captcha to prove
your account isn't spam. It's not the easiest thing in the world to
solve captchas at this time. I'm not willing to run an older version of
a browser to do so.


Another thing is that Facebook should make this test possible for the
blind to pass without much hassle. Has anyone else seen this new test
pop up? These things say we're not human because we can't read or solve
a picture puzzle. How ridiculous!!!






Re: new facebook captcha

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I had hoped these were dying out. I assume you have no audio option?
The daft thing is that I have seen well heard many demos of spammer cloud based cap char solvers used by said spammers and to me the only true way to avoid spam is some clever questions or an email authentication system. If Facebook really are going down this route a lot of people not just blind ones will see it as the last straw for a badly run company.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Governor staten" <@Govsta>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2018 3:00 AM
Subject: [nvda] new facebook captcha


Hello list. It now appears that Facebook is using a new captcha to prove your account isn't spam. It's not the easiest thing in the world to solve captchas at this time. I'm not willing to run an older version of a browser to do so.


Another thing is that Facebook should make this test possible for the blind to pass without much hassle. Has anyone else seen this new test pop up? These things say we're not human because we can't read or solve a picture puzzle. How ridiculous!!!



Re: Miranda NG for the blind link

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Why not stick it on your dropbox, I do not think those links expire yet anyway.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Kingett" <@blindjourno>
To: "tech exchange @ second sense" <techexchange@...>; <nvda@nvda.groups.io>; "Access team emails" <team@accessmedia.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2018 1:57 AM
Subject: [nvda] Miranda NG for the blind link


A blind programmer made a pre configured version of the free and open source Miranda NG IM Client for windows. You can even now add discord to the list of IM accounts. Settings have been configured to work best with NVDA, not JAWS. Sorry JAWS users! But I am sure you can change some settings and stuff. Anyway, the download link is below. This link will expire in 7 days. I'd love it if the official Miranda NG crew agreed to host this on their page. But anyway, one thing though, when it starts, it will ask for an update. Be sure to update everything because if you don't, a lot of plugins and accounts, including skype, will not work. The skype account only supports text chat, basically everything except calling.


https://we.tl/t-BYdYfMOZt7



Re: Problems With NVDA On My Computer

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What are you using to say copied to clipboard etc, if its the dumb add on, then it is as they say, dumb and hence you may not have selected the stuff you want to actually copy.
Not sure what you mean about icon, many things can trigger the icon description, but it only means you have encountered an icon, so I think a little more detail into what where and what with are needed to give a good answer to this.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ibrahim Ajayi" <@kobisko>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2018 1:51 AM
Subject: [nvda] Problems With NVDA On My Computer


Hi good people:
Please I am having two problems with my NVDA screen reader.
The first problem is that wwhen I want to use it on the internet, I
always hear "Icon1 of 5 or icon 4 of 5. I don't understand what this
is all about. I didn't install any icons. What can I do about this,
because it makes it impossible sometimes for me to browse.
Can I remove the icons? how do I remove them, because I didn't install
them, and I don't even understand what they are all about, and their
function.
Secondly, sometimes, when I copy an item from a web page, or an Email
message, it doesn't get pasted. When I copy it, I hear copy selection
to clipboard, and when I paste on the word processor, I hear pasted
from clipboard: but nothing gets pasted.
So the question now is: does anyone have ideas on how I can solve
these two problems?
Hope to read a response.
From Ibrahim.


Re: new facebook captcha

David Moore
 

Good job, governor Staten!

I wish I had the passion you do about accessibility!

Wow, I needed you as my advocate when I had this job!

Right on!

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From: Sky Mundell
Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2018 2:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new facebook captcha

 

That’s true. However, accessibility is still important.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 11:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new facebook captcha

 

Hi Group,

 

I hate to be the barer of bad news, but with continued deregulation of the Internet and an absolute abandonment of accessibility in education by the  current crowd in Washington, I think more and more, such appeals will fall on  deaf ears.  We're simply too small a market to justify the resources to create such accessibility instruments.

 

 

On 8/31/2018 10:36 PM, Governor staten wrote:

I wrote this little ditty to Facebook accessibility. I had the wrong address. However, I have commented on a Facebook post about this captcha issue. What I wrote follows. It probalby isn't perfect in tone.

 

"Hello. My name is Governor Staten. I'm sending this to remonstrate with you about this new captcha that has been implemented to prevent fake accounts. I"m a totally blind user, and this captcha is completely impossible for me to solve without sighted assistance, or some other tool I cannot yet access. I use your service every single day. Some things I do on it are deemed as essential to me, my friends, and organizations I am a part of.


Why is there no alternative given to make it possible for the blind to solve this captcha, therefore proving that we are not a spam account, and also proving we are human? Why is it that not being able to solve a purely visual construct makes us not human? It is honestly quite degrading to have it implied that because I cannot solve this captcha that I could be considered a spam account and not a real human being, the same human being who is writing this email to you. This issue is urgent and must be solved immediately!!!


Someone that is as dedicated to accessibility as your organization evidently is should not be making such errors as the one mentioned above. There are a few ways in which this can be solved. For instance, an audio captcha, or asking a question that we can then answer, proving we are human. One more way that I have just contemplated is to use the code generator to provide the answer to the captcha. Have a mode in which it provides these answers if you are blind and/or visually impaired. I'm sure there are other quite inventive ways I haven't yet thought of that could be used as well.


This is all to say that something must be done at your soonest opportunity to do so. I hope that this is not long languishing in a pile that is not urgent or not looked at."

 

 

 

 

On 8/31/2018 10:23 PM, Lino Morales wrote:

Yes Govsta and it sucks.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Governor staten <govsta@...>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 10:00:49 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] new facebook captcha

 

Hello list. It now appears that Facebook is using a new captcha to prove
your account isn't spam. It's not the easiest thing in the world to
solve captchas at this time. I'm not willing to run an older version of
a browser to do so.


Another thing is that Facebook should make this test possible for the
blind to pass without much hassle. Has anyone else seen this new test
pop up? These things say we're not human because we can't read or solve
a picture puzzle. How ridiculous!!!


 

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 


Re: new facebook captcha

Sky Mundell
 

That’s true. However, accessibility is still important.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 11:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new facebook captcha

 

Hi Group,

 

I hate to be the barer of bad news, but with continued deregulation of the Internet and an absolute abandonment of accessibility in education by the  current crowd in Washington, I think more and more, such appeals will fall on  deaf ears.  We're simply too small a market to justify the resources to create such accessibility instruments.

 

 

On 8/31/2018 10:36 PM, Governor staten wrote:

I wrote this little ditty to Facebook accessibility. I had the wrong address. However, I have commented on a Facebook post about this captcha issue. What I wrote follows. It probalby isn't perfect in tone.

 

"Hello. My name is Governor Staten. I'm sending this to remonstrate with you about this new captcha that has been implemented to prevent fake accounts. I"m a totally blind user, and this captcha is completely impossible for me to solve without sighted assistance, or some other tool I cannot yet access. I use your service every single day. Some things I do on it are deemed as essential to me, my friends, and organizations I am a part of.


Why is there no alternative given to make it possible for the blind to solve this captcha, therefore proving that we are not a spam account, and also proving we are human? Why is it that not being able to solve a purely visual construct makes us not human? It is honestly quite degrading to have it implied that because I cannot solve this captcha that I could be considered a spam account and not a real human being, the same human being who is writing this email to you. This issue is urgent and must be solved immediately!!!


Someone that is as dedicated to accessibility as your organization evidently is should not be making such errors as the one mentioned above. There are a few ways in which this can be solved. For instance, an audio captcha, or asking a question that we can then answer, proving we are human. One more way that I have just contemplated is to use the code generator to provide the answer to the captcha. Have a mode in which it provides these answers if you are blind and/or visually impaired. I'm sure there are other quite inventive ways I haven't yet thought of that could be used as well.


This is all to say that something must be done at your soonest opportunity to do so. I hope that this is not long languishing in a pile that is not urgent or not looked at."

 

 

 


 

On 8/31/2018 10:23 PM, Lino Morales wrote:

Yes Govsta and it sucks.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Governor staten <govsta@...>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 10:00:49 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] new facebook captcha

 

Hello list. It now appears that Facebook is using a new captcha to prove
your account isn't spam. It's not the easiest thing in the world to
solve captchas at this time. I'm not willing to run an older version of
a browser to do so.


Another thing is that Facebook should make this test possible for the
blind to pass without much hassle. Has anyone else seen this new test
pop up? These things say we're not human because we can't read or solve
a picture puzzle. How ridiculous!!!





-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: new facebook captcha

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


I hate to be the barer of bad news, but with continued deregulation of the Internet and an absolute abandonment of accessibility in education by the  current crowd in Washington, I think more and more, such appeals will fall on  deaf ears.  We're simply too small a market to justify the resources to create such accessibility instruments.



On 8/31/2018 10:36 PM, Governor staten wrote:

I wrote this little ditty to Facebook accessibility. I had the wrong address. However, I have commented on a Facebook post about this captcha issue. What I wrote follows. It probalby isn't perfect in tone.


"Hello. My name is Governor Staten. I'm sending this to remonstrate with you about this new captcha that has been implemented to prevent fake accounts. I"m a totally blind user, and this captcha is completely impossible for me to solve without sighted assistance, or some other tool I cannot yet access. I use your service every single day. Some things I do on it are deemed as essential to me, my friends, and organizations I am a part of.


Why is there no alternative given to make it possible for the blind to solve this captcha, therefore proving that we are not a spam account, and also proving we are human? Why is it that not being able to solve a purely visual construct makes us not human? It is honestly quite degrading to have it implied that because I cannot solve this captcha that I could be considered a spam account and not a real human being, the same human being who is writing this email to you. This issue is urgent and must be solved immediately!!!


Someone that is as dedicated to accessibility as your organization evidently is should not be making such errors as the one mentioned above. There are a few ways in which this can be solved. For instance, an audio captcha, or asking a question that we can then answer, proving we are human. One more way that I have just contemplated is to use the code generator to provide the answer to the captcha. Have a mode in which it provides these answers if you are blind and/or visually impaired. I'm sure there are other quite inventive ways I haven't yet thought of that could be used as well.


This is all to say that something must be done at your soonest opportunity to do so. I hope that this is not long languishing in a pile that is not urgent or not looked at."






On 8/31/2018 10:23 PM, Lino Morales wrote:

Yes Govsta and it sucks.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Governor staten <govsta@...>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 10:00:49 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] new facebook captcha
 
Hello list. It now appears that Facebook is using a new captcha to prove
your account isn't spam. It's not the easiest thing in the world to
solve captchas at this time. I'm not willing to run an older version of
a browser to do so.


Another thing is that Facebook should make this test possible for the
blind to pass without much hassle. Has anyone else seen this new test
pop up? These things say we're not human because we can't read or solve
a picture puzzle. How ridiculous!!!





-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: trillian?

Brian Tew
 

Ok, it baasically will not let me update, or maybe I don't know how.
I removed everything having to do with miranda from the pc, then got your file.
Install went ok. But now when I start miranda it says:

this is an old daatabase no longer used, click yes to change to new format.

so I click yes.
then it says:

cannot read default.dat. it is inaccessible or is being used by another app or instance of miranda.


I am very new to windows. What should I do now?
And thanks.

 

On Aug 31, 2018, at 8:52 AM, Robert Kingett <kingettr@...> wrote:

I could use dropbox but I change my dropbox around so often no doubt I would delete it forgetting it is a shared file. All versions of Miranda NG should be completely uninstalled before installing this version. The old link is below but it no longer works. When you install this blind version, be sure to update because it is a slightly older version! I can't stress this enough. If you don't update, FaceBook won't work, Twitter won't work, discord won't work. My email is below, as well. Write to me.

old link.

http://onj3.andrelouis.com/programs/

kingettr@...


ccleaner new version

 

Hi all portable ccleaner users.

Here is the updated ini file if you don't want to bother with it.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m15toyhbsmdy5fb/ccleaner.ini?dl=1

For those that want to know what is changed.

options/privacy needs to be reset because the preffs string is different.

The only other thing I have done is clear out the version strings that existed in there and rebuilt the ics program version string data.

For all the rest, while you can get the slim installer now I have portable it just works.

Things that have been changed include fixing the privacy setting issues with extra info added for that option including more datashheets for it.

The adjusting of the monitering so it says smart cleaning instead to explain what it does.

If you turn off smart cleaning ccleaner shouldn't stay loaded at startup anymore.

There is supposed to be a checkbox revamp and some more descriptions but I have yet to see any change, and to be honest now that I can use portable easily enough I don't know if I will ever go back to installed ever again.


Re: new facebook captcha

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

How ridiculous is right. I guess they think we're robots.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 7:01 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] new facebook captcha

Hello list. It now appears that Facebook is using a new captcha to prove your account isn't spam. It's not the easiest thing in the world to solve captchas at this time. I'm not willing to run an older version of a browser to do so.


Another thing is that Facebook should make this test possible for the blind to pass without much hassle. Has anyone else seen this new test pop up? These things say we're not human because we can't read or solve a picture puzzle. How ridiculous!!!


Re: new facebook captcha

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

That's great. I couldn't have said it better.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 7:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new facebook captcha

 

I wrote this little ditty to Facebook accessibility. I had the wrong address. However, I have commented on a Facebook post about this captcha issue. What I wrote follows. It probalby isn't perfect in tone.

 

"Hello. My name is Governor Staten. I'm sending this to remonstrate with you about this new captcha that has been implemented to prevent fake accounts. I"m a totally blind user, and this captcha is completely impossible for me to solve without sighted assistance, or some other tool I cannot yet access. I use your service every single day. Some things I do on it are deemed as essential to me, my friends, and organizations I am a part of.


Why is there no alternative given to make it possible for the blind to solve this captcha, therefore proving that we are not a spam account, and also proving we are human? Why is it that not being able to solve a purely visual construct makes us not human? It is honestly quite degrading to have it implied that because I cannot solve this captcha that I could be considered a spam account and not a real human being, the same human being who is writing this email to you. This issue is urgent and must be solved immediately!!!


Someone that is as dedicated to accessibility as your organization evidently is should not be making such errors as the one mentioned above. There are a few ways in which this can be solved. For instance, an audio captcha, or asking a question that we can then answer, proving we are human. One more way that I have just contemplated is to use the code generator to provide the answer to the captcha. Have a mode in which it provides these answers if you are blind and/or visually impaired. I'm sure there are other quite inventive ways I haven't yet thought of that could be used as well.


This is all to say that something must be done at your soonest opportunity to do so. I hope that this is not long languishing in a pile that is not urgent or not looked at."

 

 

 


 

On 8/31/2018 10:23 PM, Lino Morales wrote:

Yes Govsta and it sucks.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Governor staten <govsta@...>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 10:00:49 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] new facebook captcha

 

Hello list. It now appears that Facebook is using a new captcha to prove
your account isn't spam. It's not the easiest thing in the world to
solve captchas at this time. I'm not willing to run an older version of
a browser to do so.


Another thing is that Facebook should make this test possible for the
blind to pass without much hassle. Has anyone else seen this new test
pop up? These things say we're not human because we can't read or solve
a picture puzzle. How ridiculous!!!




Re: new facebook captcha

 

I wrote this little ditty to Facebook accessibility. I had the wrong address. However, I have commented on a Facebook post about this captcha issue. What I wrote follows. It probalby isn't perfect in tone.


"Hello. My name is Governor Staten. I'm sending this to remonstrate with you about this new captcha that has been implemented to prevent fake accounts. I"m a totally blind user, and this captcha is completely impossible for me to solve without sighted assistance, or some other tool I cannot yet access. I use your service every single day. Some things I do on it are deemed as essential to me, my friends, and organizations I am a part of.


Why is there no alternative given to make it possible for the blind to solve this captcha, therefore proving that we are not a spam account, and also proving we are human? Why is it that not being able to solve a purely visual construct makes us not human? It is honestly quite degrading to have it implied that because I cannot solve this captcha that I could be considered a spam account and not a real human being, the same human being who is writing this email to you. This issue is urgent and must be solved immediately!!!


Someone that is as dedicated to accessibility as your organization evidently is should not be making such errors as the one mentioned above. There are a few ways in which this can be solved. For instance, an audio captcha, or asking a question that we can then answer, proving we are human. One more way that I have just contemplated is to use the code generator to provide the answer to the captcha. Have a mode in which it provides these answers if you are blind and/or visually impaired. I'm sure there are other quite inventive ways I haven't yet thought of that could be used as well.


This is all to say that something must be done at your soonest opportunity to do so. I hope that this is not long languishing in a pile that is not urgent or not looked at."






On 8/31/2018 10:23 PM, Lino Morales wrote:

Yes Govsta and it sucks.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Governor staten <govsta@...>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 10:00:49 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] new facebook captcha
 
Hello list. It now appears that Facebook is using a new captcha to prove
your account isn't spam. It's not the easiest thing in the world to
solve captchas at this time. I'm not willing to run an older version of
a browser to do so.


Another thing is that Facebook should make this test possible for the
blind to pass without much hassle. Has anyone else seen this new test
pop up? These things say we're not human because we can't read or solve
a picture puzzle. How ridiculous!!!





Re: new facebook captcha

Lino Morales
 

Yes Govsta and it sucks.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Governor staten <govsta@...>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 10:00:49 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] new facebook captcha
 
Hello list. It now appears that Facebook is using a new captcha to prove
your account isn't spam. It's not the easiest thing in the world to
solve captchas at this time. I'm not willing to run an older version of
a browser to do so.


Another thing is that Facebook should make this test possible for the
blind to pass without much hassle. Has anyone else seen this new test
pop up? These things say we're not human because we can't read or solve
a picture puzzle. How ridiculous!!!





Re: Problems With NVDA On My Computer

David Moore
 

I can solve your second problem!

If nothing gets pasted, I go back and copy the material again, and then it gets pasted.

Another thing I have to do sometimes, is to press CTRL+C to copy, but press C three or four times, to make sure it gets copied.

Do the same with paste.

Press the V three or four times.

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ibrahim Ajayi
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 8:51 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problems With NVDA On My Computer

 

Hi good people:

Please I am having two problems with my NVDA screen reader.

The first problem is that wwhen I want to use it on the internet, I

always hear "Icon1 of 5 or icon 4 of 5.  I don't understand what this

is all about.  I didn't install any icons.  What can I do about this,

because it makes it impossible sometimes for me to browse.

Can I remove the icons? how do I remove them, because I didn't install

them, and I don't even understand what they are all about, and their

function.

Secondly, sometimes, when I copy an item from a web page, or an Email

message, it doesn't get pasted.  When I copy it, I hear copy selection

to clipboard, and when I paste on the word processor, I hear pasted

from clipboard: but nothing gets pasted.

So the question now is: does anyone have ideas on how I can solve

these two problems?

Hope to read a response.

From Ibrahim.

 

 

 


new facebook captcha

 

Hello list. It now appears that Facebook is using a new captcha to prove your account isn't spam. It's not the easiest thing in the world to solve captchas at this time. I'm not willing to run an older version of a browser to do so.


Another thing is that Facebook should make this test possible for the blind to pass without much hassle. Has anyone else seen this new test pop up? These things say we're not human because we can't read or solve a picture puzzle. How ridiculous!!!


Re: Hi everyone

Gene
 

It can't run automatically as a portable version.  Windows did away with autorun in Windows 7 because malware was autorunning from thumb drives.  You must run the program manually.  and wherever it is as a portable version, even on a hard drive in your machine, the features such as run at bootup and any other automatic runnning feature won't work.  They require registry settings and portable versions don't make any changes to the system.
 
Run narrator when running from a thumb drive and run NVDA.  Then shut down Narrator.  They won't interfere with each other when they run, except that you'll hear them both speak and shutting down Narrator won't cause problems with how NVDA runs.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 6:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] Hi everyone

Hi Everyone, This is Michael Munn and I have a question about the restriction of the NVDA Screen Reader. 

in July of this year I created a Portable copy of the NVDA Screen  Reader. After I completed the Portable Copy process when I'm exploring the settings I could not find Run NVDA on the Log on Screen and Start NVDA automatically.
Then  I contacted Quentin C from NVAccess and he told me that there are restriction. 
I want to know what kind of restriction that don't allow NVDA to run on log on Screen  and Start NVDA automacally after I plug  my USB stick in to the USB slot. ¿
 
Please respond if you all can.
Best Regards Michael Munn 
  
"If a person must be blind, it is better to be blind in Iowa than anywhere else in the nation or in the world."
Harold Russell, 
Des Moines 
1968
Michael Munn
Member:
Virginia Association of Blind Student
Delegate:  
Virginia Association of Blind Student
Student of:
Hadley Institute for the Blind
Email address:



Miranda NG for the blind link

 

A blind programmer made a pre configured version of the free and open source Miranda NG IM Client for windows. You can even now add discord to the list of IM accounts. Settings have been configured to work best with NVDA, not JAWS. Sorry JAWS users! But I am sure you can change some settings and stuff. Anyway, the download link is below. This link will expire in 7 days. I'd love it if the official Miranda NG crew agreed to host this on their page. But anyway, one thing though, when it starts, it will ask for an update. Be sure to update everything because if you don't, a lot of plugins and accounts, including skype, will not work. The skype account only supports text chat, basically everything except calling.


https://we.tl/t-BYdYfMOZt7


Problems With NVDA On My Computer

Ibrahim Ajayi
 

Hi good people:
Please I am having two problems with my NVDA screen reader.
The first problem is that wwhen I want to use it on the internet, I
always hear "Icon1 of 5 or icon 4 of 5. I don't understand what this
is all about. I didn't install any icons. What can I do about this,
because it makes it impossible sometimes for me to browse.
Can I remove the icons? how do I remove them, because I didn't install
them, and I don't even understand what they are all about, and their
function.
Secondly, sometimes, when I copy an item from a web page, or an Email
message, it doesn't get pasted. When I copy it, I hear copy selection
to clipboard, and when I paste on the word processor, I hear pasted
from clipboard: but nothing gets pasted.
So the question now is: does anyone have ideas on how I can solve
these two problems?
Hope to read a response.
From Ibrahim.