Date   

older nvda resend?

 

I am reloading the old xp machine that I got working when I grabbed the nvda for xp I saved it and I can not find it. can some one please send me the last version of nvda that will run on xp?

I think it was

2017.3 but I can not be 100 percent sure can some one please dropbox me the older version?

thanks

Hank


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Re: Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

 

And, based on reports earlier this afternoon, Microsoft has officially pulled the update entirely until it can be fixed.  Thank heaven.  This one has been an unmitigated disaster.

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Re: Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...>
 

Oh dear, I seem to have opened a can of worms. Sorry. I got my answer though.
I'm concerned about the issue with Skype but hope that will be fixed. I'm not in any hurry to upgrade so will wait till it becomes available for me to download. Thank you all.
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Problems with tables in Adobe reader

Marco Oros
 

Hi!

I have a question to You.

Have You strange issues after updating Adobe reader?

It doesn't read any tables, but in those documents there will be tables.

Thank You.

Marco Oros


Re: Using Macrium Reflect Version 7 to Take A Full System Image Backup

Kevin Cussick
 

I use this all the time, and like it.

On 06/10/2018 04:28, René Linke wrote:
Hi,
Here's another very good accessible image backup tool for full and incremental backups.
It is very small, powerful and very fast.
http://www.drivesnapshot.de/en/
René


Re: Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

 

Again you can't test every system config no matter what it is.

Eventually when its released there will be a few lingering issues easily fixed by a patch.

What I don't understand is why ms even gave us users the option to roleout if we wanted to immediately on launch instead of just waiting another build.

For me I am happy, but my 2 boxes never had the issue with files.

I can confirm that the store does not update statuses right on downloads and some ms support apps don't work right but at least they work, there are now reports of edge and a few other things not connecting.

For me I am happy I am updated and that it worked without a problem.

In fact the system performance is faster.

I have noticed that windows disk cleanup detects I have files in downloads when I know full well on a system taht I have emptied that folder  so who knows.

Again you can't check everything, the issue of file deleting may never have come up till the final build which begs the question what caused it if no one else has the issue on insider testing.

As for the size, the insider program is openended so as many users can join it.

Its not an every user has this issue again.

But the verge quotes that the latest quality of updates has slipped a bit.

And to be honest ms have made a lot of what I would term small silly mistakes or never thought about a few things they continue to generally jump along.

The fact that they have simply pulled the update and left role out stopped and left that openended when that will actually come back probably means they never saw that coming either.

On 10/6/2018 11:12 PM, Gene wrote:
Maybe these full updates of Windows, released every six months, and which are, in effect, new full versions of Windows, aren't sufficiently tested before release. How many update cycles have wee seen where there are major problems with the release? Maybe the insiders program isn't large enough or maybe no or insufficient effort is made to make sure those testing cover a wide enough variety of different brands and models of machines.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Austin Pinto
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2018 2:40 AM
To: nvda
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition


Please wait for some days the update is withdrawn due to a major bug



On Sat, Oct 6, 2018, 1:04 PM Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:

I would suggest using the mediaCreator that Microsoft offers on their web site. It is a lot faster than the update assistant.Normally it is used for creating a useable flashdrive to boot and install from but it works just as well when run from your download folder. also, if you find yourself in need of doing a clean install of windows this is the tool to use. i have done a clean install with no sighted help.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition


Hi, Abbie,



I didn't have that problem when I was upgrading. I don't understand what could be happening.



Rosemarie







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Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 3:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition



What about files being lost? Someone on another forum said all his files in his documents folder disappeared after he upgraded. I know it's a good idea to back things up before upgrading, but I'm wondering if anyone else had this experience after upgrading.
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Re: Not able to read pdf file

farhan israk
 

Check this file.


On Sat, 6 Oct 2018, 9:32 pm Lino Morales, <linomorales001@...> wrote:

Hi. Well we don’t know what type of file it is. Is it an image? Was it improperly formatted perhaps? We don’t know. What is it supposed to be sir?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2018 11:30:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Not able to read pdf file
 

I'm Fahim from Dhaka, Bangladesh. I habe a pdf file. But, I'm not able to read it. I used abby fine reader and open book. But, failed to read it. Screen readers reads as there are lots of simbles. How to read it!


Re: reading file size

Desert Moon
 

Hello All,

Just want to clarify. Windows 10 has never provided an option to display folder size in File Explorer. You can choose to show or hide file size in Folder Options though.
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Re: Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


No, you misunderstood. You are not restricted to having to send it to a flashdrive. that is its main purpose but it will allow you to upgrade right from your download folder of your C drive.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2018 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

I would use that, but my custom built computer comes with a flash drive that is not accessible that I have to use as it comes with the drivers for my machine etc.

Take care

On 6 Oct 2018, at 0:34, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

I would suggest using the mediaCreator that Microsoft offers on their web site. It is a lot faster than the update assistant.Normally it is used for creating a useable flashdrive to boot and install from but it works just as well when run from your download folder. also, if you find yourself in need of doing a clean install of windows this is the tool to use. i have done a clean install with no sighted help.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

Hi, Abbie,

 

I didn't have that problem when I was upgrading. I don't understand what could be happening.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 3:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

 

What about files being lost? Someone on another forum said all his files in his documents folder disappeared after he upgraded. I know it's a good idea to back things up before upgrading, but I'm wondering if anyone else had this experience after upgrading.
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http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
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Re: Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

Sarah k Alawami
 

I would use that, but my custom built computer comes with a flash drive that is not accessible that I have to use as it comes with the drivers for my machine etc.

Take care

On 6 Oct 2018, at 0:34, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

I would suggest using the mediaCreator that Microsoft offers on their web site. It is a lot faster than the update assistant.Normally it is used for creating a useable flashdrive to boot and install from but it works just as well when run from your download folder. also, if you find yourself in need of doing a clean install of windows this is the tool to use. i have done a clean install with no sighted help.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

Hi, Abbie,

 

I didn't have that problem when I was upgrading. I don't understand what could be happening.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 3:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

 

What about files being lost? Someone on another forum said all his files in his documents folder disappeared after he upgraded. I know it's a good idea to back things up before upgrading, but I'm wondering if anyone else had this experience after upgrading.
--
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http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
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Re: Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

Gene
 

It may be the most tested but it is also a complex program and, it is clear that the testing, no matter how much is done, is inadequate for the number and/or speed at which changes are introduced. 
 
Microsoft needs to admit and fix bugs.  its future depends on it.  That's very clearly in its self-interest.  What isn't in its self-interest is to have full upgrades of Windows that cause problems every six months and some of them are serious.
 
there appears to me to be growing pressure from the business sector to reduce the number of full upgrades.  I follow this very casually and others may have more information about whether I am right.  We'll see what happens.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2018 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

no.
windows 10 is the largest tested software in the history of computers
with a large number of insiders at least 20 million insiders.
and no software is perfect even windows 7 or windows 8 is not perfect
but all i can say is that they have at least admited the bug and are fixing it.

On 10/6/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> This article deals with business users of Windows 10 but my guess is that
> many of the issues, at least in terms of stability and bugs in new full
> upgrades, refer to individual consumers as well.
> https://www.computerworld.com/article/3238005/microsoft-windows/microsofts-windows-10-update-strategy-is-showing-strains.html
>
> And, you will see that there is an actual term, I believe Microsoft uses
> and promotes it, "Windows As A Service."  I strongly maintain that Windows
> is an operating system before it is a service and my view is that Microsoft
> has this backwards in Windows 10.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Gene
> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2018 6:20 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition
>
>
> I doubt admitting bugs is a new culture at all.  These releases are released
> six months apart.  Either too many changes are made atoo close to the time
> of release to test for properly, or there is an insufficient testing base.
> If two full upgrades a year are too much to test properly, then only havbe
> one.  Windows users, I think, would much rather have properly tested
> releases without the problems, some of which cripple the systems of many
> users, when many of these releases are made.
>
> Windows is releasing versions too quickly, it is my guess because the
> emphasis has changed from stability to cramming new features into Windows to
> entice people to use more services Microsoft makes money from.  Why did
> Microsoft give Windows 10 away for a year?  Actually, they aggressively
> badgered Windows users to upgrade.  They didn't do so for humanitarian
> reasons.  They did so because Windows is far more a means of promoting
> Microsoft services than it used to be.
>
> I suspect the problem is both that new services are added too quickly to be
> tested properly and that the sample for testing in the insider program is
> too limited.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Felix G.
> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2018 5:44 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition
>
>
> Hi!
> Software is never perfect, and I, for one, prefer this new culture of
> admitting bugs. I don't have enough information and experience in
> developing software to judge whether or not their testing procedures
> are adequate, which is why I choose not to judge.
> Best,
> Felix
> Am Sa., 6. Okt. 2018 um 12:11 Uhr schrieb Gene <gsasner@...>:
>>
>> Maybe these full updates of Windows, released every six months, and which
>> are, in effect, new full versions of Windows, aren't sufficiently tested
>> before release.  How many update cycles have wee seen where there are
>> major problems with the release?  Maybe the insiders program isn't large
>> enough or maybe no or insufficient effort is made to make sure those
>> testing cover a wide enough variety of different brands and models of
>> machines.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Austin Pinto
>> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2018 2:40 AM
>> To: nvda
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition
>>
>> Please wait for some days the update is withdrawn due to a major bug
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 6, 2018, 1:04 PM Robert Doc Wright godfearer
>> <godfearer@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would suggest using the mediaCreator that Microsoft offers on their web
>>> site. It is a lot faster than the update assistant.Normally it is used
>>> for creating a useable flashdrive to boot and install from but it works
>>> just as well when run from your download folder. also, if you find
>>> yourself in need of doing a clean install of windows this is the tool to
>>> use. i have done a clean install with no sighted help.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Rosemarie Chavarria
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 4:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition
>>>
>>> Hi, Abbie,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I didn't have that problem when I was upgrading. I don't understand what
>>> could be happening.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rosemarie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Abbie
>>> Taylor
>>> Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 3:51 PM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What about files being lost? Someone on another forum said all his files
>>> in his documents folder disappeared after he upgraded. I know it's a good
>>> idea to back things up before upgrading, but I'm wondering if anyone else
>>> had this experience after upgrading.
>>> --
>>> Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
>>> http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
>>> http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
>>> abbietaylor945@...
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: Are There Now or Has There Recently Been a Problem with Donating . . .

Danny Park
 

But it is only donations all other transactions work like they are supposed to work.

Danny

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 1:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Are There Now or Has There Recently Been a Problem with Donating . . .

Often if your card has expired, yet your new card is on their account at
Paypal you have to go in and make the new one default as some banks systems
are so bloomin thick they never ask to try the other card. What I did was
delete the old one making the current one default, by default, if you get my
drift.
Other things can upset it. Sometimes you can tie it to an account without a
card but have a transaction limit of some sort set. This can cause problems
as well. Very handy for stopping fraud of course, but if your account is not
using an overdraft and the credit limit is small, it tends to just not know
what to do.
I guess it is dangerous to use a debit cared, as credit cards afford some
protection, but I've not been hacked yet, and the banks do tend to put the
money back in a goodwill gesture so far if people I talk to are anything to
go by.
But, this is all academic. It has to be something wrong with the set up
that gives such errors, and only trying to find which bit is the solution,
from what I've read here, its usually the bank. Some banks will not agree
till you reply to an email they send you and click a link in the account.
That is a bit paranoid unless you are talking about thousands of pounds or
dollars, in my view and I have found my bank normally calls me if their
algorithm spots something out of the ordinary.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Danny Park" <dpark13918@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Are There Now or Has There Recently Been a Problem with
Donating . . .


I have had several problems trying to donate and getting an error message
saying that the card was rejected but the problem is that I was not using a
card but rather using my bank. I talked to PayPal and they could not even
see a transaction being initiated so I could not get past the initial
screen.

Danny

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2018 11:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Are There Now or Has There Recently Been a Problem with
Donating . . .

. . . when installing/updating NVDA?

I ask because a friend of mine who's a long term NVDA user, and has donated
many times along the way, mentioned to me this evening that when she did the
latest update she could not get through making a donation. We're in the
USA, and she describes the situation as being that no matter how many times
she tried to get the donation currency set to USD and enter her credit card
information things kept reverting back to Australian dollars and starting
the whole "fill in the form" process again.

She's been a screen reader user since there were screen readers, and knows
NVDA inside and out. I thought I'd mention this here as it would be a shame
if this were not an isolated incident and others who wish to donate were
being stymied in doing so.

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Re: NVDA and the audible app

Monte Single
 

What rhymes with amazon and audible and apple??  Evil!!

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: October-06-18 8:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app

 

I am afraid it is already here and not 3 years away at least here in the UK

I found last night when I went to my audible Library the download facility now takes you to a so called “help” page which only gives the option of using Audible iOS, Android, Echo etc and Windows 10.

There is an apparent option to use iTunes but if you follow the help on that it states you need the Audible app installed.

As it is now imposible to download directly from the website this is very bad news indeed.

I tried to open a “chat”with Audible support but after stating the problem they did not respond at all- I waited for 30 minutes for any acknowledgement.

So for me as of last night  Audible appears  inaccessible for blind users of Windows and also for devices like the victor Reader Stream/Trek and Pocket Plextalk which could until last week support the playing of Audible books.

As I am now blocked from accessing something like 60 books that I have paid for over the years I am not a happy customer.

David Griffith

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Gene
Sent: 06 October 2018 11:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app

 

Eventually covers a long period of potential time.  Are they going to cause problems for Windows 7 users and Windows 8 users while there are still many around?  This sounds like something that may be perhaps three years away.  I don't know when support for Windows 8 ends and support for Windows 7 is ending a little over a year from now.

 

Also, why assume the worst case?  Why contact blindness organizations first?  Why not discuss it with Audible and see what happens.  Audible has a good record on accessibility.  If there is a problem, talking with them may cause it to be solved.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2018 1:51 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app

 

Well do not use them myself, but their attitude is surely unacceptable and
arrogant in the extreme in my view. I'd actually report this to the blind
organisations in the country they are in and let them have a poke at them. I
would imagine they might well be shooting themselves in the foot if they
stop supporting things that actually work in favour of some snazzy heap of
windows app which is a format many people seem to think ill conceived and
pretty dire even for the sighted.
 Yes its probably more secure, but that is not the  main issue.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Shook" <chris0309@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 10:07 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app


> Hi,
> This is mainlya request for the developers, but I'm posting it here hoping
> someone tells me I am mistaken.
> I use the Aubible website for Audio book purchases and downloads. I
> conteacted Audible with a request of helping me fix an issue with the
> Audible download manager.
> WHile they helped me fix the issue, the woman warned me that they would
> eventually phase out the Audible download manager because of the Audible
> app for Windows 10.
> As of right now, unless I am very much mistaken, NVDA nor JAWS will work
> with the Audible app for Windows 10.
> I would ask that someone look into this as it may become necessary for
> those of us that use the website to use the app to download books in the
> future.
> The lady I talked to said she could not give me a time frame on when they
> would do away with the Audible download manager, but that they had already
> stopped updating it.
> Regards
> Chris
>
>
>

 


Re: NVDA and the audible app

Daniel Wolak
 

Hi David,

Just to say that you're not the only one experiencing this. I had exactly the same issue last evening on audible.co.uk, and turning software verification on fixed it. Not sure if it's a problem with their site or what.

Cheers,


Daniel


On 06/10/2018 17:14, David Griffith wrote:

 

I have got Audible downloading again but oddly I have  had to turn software verification on to achieve this.

Below is a thread copied which describes this.

Dear Henry

This is very useful.

Oddly I already had the recommended settings as described in your email.

However as an experiment I turned software verification on and the necessary download started without problem.

So in my case taking the entirely opposite approach to software verification worked.

I don’t know if something has changed on the website.

I would not have known to look here without your email though.

So thanks again.

Hi David

I have also encountered this problem and audible sent me the following fix:

"Hello Henry ,

Thank you for contacting Audible!

There is a software verification setting within your “Account Details” page, which needs to be turned off. Once turned off, you should be able to download

your Audible book. Below we have included the steps on how to turn off this software verification:

1.    Please log into your Audible account.

2.    Hover your mouse over "Hi, henry !" and click on "Account Details".

3.    Click on "Update Settings" tab on the left-hand side of the page.

4.    Scroll down the page and you will see Software Verification. Please be sure to turn this off.

5.    Please hover your mouse over "Library" located on the top of the page and select the subtab"Library",

http://www.audible.co.uk/lib,

and download your audiobook title from there.

 

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From: David Griffith
Sent: 06 October 2018 15:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app

 

I am afraid it is already here and not 3 years away at least here in the UK

I found last night when I went to my audible Library the download facility now takes you to a so called “help” page which only gives the option of using Audible iOS, Android, Echo etc and Windows 10.

There is an apparent option to use iTunes but if you follow the help on that it states you need the Audible app installed.

As it is now imposible to download directly from the website this is very bad news indeed.

I tried to open a “chat”with Audible support but after stating the problem they did not respond at all- I waited for 30 minutes for any acknowledgement.

So for me as of last night  Audible appears  inaccessible for blind users of Windows and also for devices like the victor Reader Stream/Trek and Pocket Plextalk which could until last week support the playing of Audible books.

As I am now blocked from accessing something like 60 books that I have paid for over the years I am not a happy customer.

David Griffith

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Gene
Sent: 06 October 2018 11:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app

 

Eventually covers a long period of potential time.  Are they going to cause problems for Windows 7 users and Windows 8 users while there are still many around?  This sounds like something that may be perhaps three years away.  I don't know when support for Windows 8 ends and support for Windows 7 is ending a little over a year from now.

 

Also, why assume the worst case?  Why contact blindness organizations first?  Why not discuss it with Audible and see what happens.  Audible has a good record on accessibility.  If there is a problem, talking with them may cause it to be solved.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2018 1:51 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app

 

Well do not use them myself, but their attitude is surely unacceptable and
arrogant in the extreme in my view. I'd actually report this to the blind
organisations in the country they are in and let them have a poke at them. I
would imagine they might well be shooting themselves in the foot if they
stop supporting things that actually work in favour of some snazzy heap of
windows app which is a format many people seem to think ill conceived and
pretty dire even for the sighted.
 Yes its probably more secure, but that is not the  main issue.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Shook" <chris0309@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 10:07 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app


> Hi,
> This is mainlya request for the developers, but I'm posting it here hoping
> someone tells me I am mistaken.
> I use the Aubible website for Audio book purchases and downloads. I
> conteacted Audible with a request of helping me fix an issue with the
> Audible download manager.
> WHile they helped me fix the issue, the woman warned me that they would
> eventually phase out the Audible download manager because of the Audible
> app for Windows 10.
> As of right now, unless I am very much mistaken, NVDA nor JAWS will work
> with the Audible app for Windows 10.
> I would ask that someone look into this as it may become necessary for
> those of us that use the website to use the app to download books in the
> future.
> The lady I talked to said she could not give me a time frame on when they
> would do away with the Audible download manager, but that they had already
> stopped updating it.
> Regards
> Chris
>
>
>

 

 



Re: NVDA and the audible app

David Griffith
 

 

I have got Audible downloading again but oddly I have  had to turn software verification on to achieve this.

Below is a thread copied which describes this.

Dear Henry

This is very useful.

Oddly I already had the recommended settings as described in your email.

However as an experiment I turned software verification on and the necessary download started without problem.

So in my case taking the entirely opposite approach to software verification worked.

I don’t know if something has changed on the website.

I would not have known to look here without your email though.

So thanks again.

Hi David

I have also encountered this problem and audible sent me the following fix:

"Hello Henry ,

Thank you for contacting Audible!

There is a software verification setting within your “Account Details” page, which needs to be turned off. Once turned off, you should be able to download

your Audible book. Below we have included the steps on how to turn off this software verification:

1.    Please log into your Audible account.

2.    Hover your mouse over "Hi, henry !" and click on "Account Details".

3.    Click on "Update Settings" tab on the left-hand side of the page.

4.    Scroll down the page and you will see Software Verification. Please be sure to turn this off.

5.    Please hover your mouse over "Library" located on the top of the page and select the subtab"Library",

http://www.audible.co.uk/lib,

and download your audiobook title from there.

 

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From: David Griffith
Sent: 06 October 2018 15:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app

 

I am afraid it is already here and not 3 years away at least here in the UK

I found last night when I went to my audible Library the download facility now takes you to a so called “help” page which only gives the option of using Audible iOS, Android, Echo etc and Windows 10.

There is an apparent option to use iTunes but if you follow the help on that it states you need the Audible app installed.

As it is now imposible to download directly from the website this is very bad news indeed.

I tried to open a “chat”with Audible support but after stating the problem they did not respond at all- I waited for 30 minutes for any acknowledgement.

So for me as of last night  Audible appears  inaccessible for blind users of Windows and also for devices like the victor Reader Stream/Trek and Pocket Plextalk which could until last week support the playing of Audible books.

As I am now blocked from accessing something like 60 books that I have paid for over the years I am not a happy customer.

David Griffith

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Gene
Sent: 06 October 2018 11:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app

 

Eventually covers a long period of potential time.  Are they going to cause problems for Windows 7 users and Windows 8 users while there are still many around?  This sounds like something that may be perhaps three years away.  I don't know when support for Windows 8 ends and support for Windows 7 is ending a little over a year from now.

 

Also, why assume the worst case?  Why contact blindness organizations first?  Why not discuss it with Audible and see what happens.  Audible has a good record on accessibility.  If there is a problem, talking with them may cause it to be solved.

 

Gene

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Well do not use them myself, but their attitude is surely unacceptable and
arrogant in the extreme in my view. I'd actually report this to the blind
organisations in the country they are in and let them have a poke at them. I
would imagine they might well be shooting themselves in the foot if they
stop supporting things that actually work in favour of some snazzy heap of
windows app which is a format many people seem to think ill conceived and
pretty dire even for the sighted.
 Yes its probably more secure, but that is not the  main issue.
 Brian

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Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 10:07 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app


> Hi,
> This is mainlya request for the developers, but I'm posting it here hoping
> someone tells me I am mistaken.
> I use the Aubible website for Audio book purchases and downloads. I
> conteacted Audible with a request of helping me fix an issue with the
> Audible download manager.
> WHile they helped me fix the issue, the woman warned me that they would
> eventually phase out the Audible download manager because of the Audible
> app for Windows 10.
> As of right now, unless I am very much mistaken, NVDA nor JAWS will work
> with the Audible app for Windows 10.
> I would ask that someone look into this as it may become necessary for
> those of us that use the website to use the app to download books in the
> future.
> The lady I talked to said she could not give me a time frame on when they
> would do away with the Audible download manager, but that they had already
> stopped updating it.
> Regards
> Chris
>
>
>

 

 


Re: bookkeeping program

David <trailerdavid@...>
 

Do you have MSOffice? Why not using a spreadsheet, or two, for your needs?

Excell could be a bit of a learning curve, in case you never worked with spreadsheets before. If there would be certain operations you think you could not do with Excel,or the like, let us know, and see if someone happens to know what to do. I do realize, this might not be covering all features you want, and hence the advice was just for an idea. Still, it might take care of the more basics, if that is all you need.


On 10/6/2018 5:33 PM, Didier Colle wrote:

what about ledger? see https://www.ledger-cli.org/download.html


On 30/09/2018 20:37, Jean wrote:

I am still looking for a bookkeeping program that can be EASILY accessed by NVDA.  Quick Books would be my choice, but I don’t want to spend the money if it won’t work.

Is anyone using any kind of bookkeeping program that you can tell me about?

Thanks so much.

Jean

PS:  I am not a computer whiz.  Most of what you all talk about is way over my head.  I am a little old lady in Arizona working on my standup comedy career. (smiles)




Re: bookkeeping program

Didier Colle
 

On 30/09/2018 20:37, Jean wrote:

I am still looking for a bookkeeping program that can be EASILY accessed by NVDA.  Quick Books would be my choice, but I don’t want to spend the money if it won’t work.

Is anyone using any kind of bookkeeping program that you can tell me about?

Thanks so much.

Jean

PS:  I am not a computer whiz.  Most of what you all talk about is way over my head.  I am a little old lady in Arizona working on my standup comedy career. (smiles)



Re: Not able to read pdf file

Lino Morales
 

Hi. Well we don’t know what type of file it is. Is it an image? Was it improperly formatted perhaps? We don’t know. What is it supposed to be sir?

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2018 11:30:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Not able to read pdf file
 

I'm Fahim from Dhaka, Bangladesh. I habe a pdf file. But, I'm not able to read it. I used abby fine reader and open book. But, failed to read it. Screen readers reads as there are lots of simbles. How to read it!


Not able to read pdf file

farhan israk
 

I'm Fahim from Dhaka, Bangladesh. I habe a pdf file. But, I'm not able to read it. I used abby fine reader and open book. But, failed to read it. Screen readers reads as there are lots of simbles. How to read it!


Re: 38 degrees

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Yes exactly they are using email formats which are not truly to spec, so how can one really be expected to do anything with them.
Do these people not test their emails on all the clients, I wonder? Shoddy work in my opinion. Do you not have any way to tell them their emails are rubbish?
 Brian

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                                I use Windows mail. I also have outlook, but using that the graphic does not show up.

 

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From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 06 October 2018 11:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 38 degrees

 

What are you using to get your email?

IE is it a client, if so, which one and is it set to display in html?

If its online web mail which site is it?

Personally I've had some horribly designed hover over rubbish sent to me

from  these sort of sites and ended up viewing the page source to get at the

links.

 

Brian

 

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To: <nvda@groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2018 11:22 AM

Subject: [nvda] 38 degrees

 

 

I get e-mails from 38 degrees which is a petition site. Until recently, I

had no problem entering on links to sign their petitions. Instead of an

ordinary link, what I get now is graphic wrecked angle contains link. I only

use NVDA, so has anyone got any ideas on how I can click on these links.

 

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