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Re: Using Macrium Reflect Version 7 to Take A Full System Image Backup

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


You might check out Casper. I used it to clone my C drive to an SSD drive and it worked flawlessly with no accessibility hiccups.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 9:13 PM
Subject: [nvda] Using Macrium Reflect Version 7 to Take A Full System Image Backup

There has been much discussion on several groups about an entirely accessible backup utility with regard to actually taking a full system image backup.  I have yet to find a backup and recovery utility that is 100% accessible in all respects, but Macrium Reflect, Version 7, is 100% accessible for creating a full system image backup for "the typical user" who keeps the typical disc arrangement under Windows where all OS files and user data files are on the C: drive.

Given what's been happening over the last several days with the Windows 10 Version 1809 feature update it is really critical to take a full system image backup before it is applied.

Here's the link to download the step-by-step instructions, along with notes about setting things up, in MS-Word format:

Using Macrium Reflect With a Screen Reader To Take a Full System Image Backup

You should be presented with a Save dialog shortly after activating the link. 

I went through this process from beginning to end using NVDA to control everything.  I cannot imagine that things should be different in JAWS and possibly even Narrator.  If there are any significant differences that you encounter please share them on this topic.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: reading file size

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

here is a utility I found on Microsoft's web page. i have tested it and it is accessible. Once instaled you point to the folder, press your applications key and t for treefile. After it propigates it will show you the size of the initial folder and as you arrow down it shows subfolder information by size largest to smallest.

here is the link to the utility.
Note: i did scan it first and found no critters.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9nu5lstdcqr70eg/TreeSizeFreeSetup.exe?dl=0

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] reading file size


I am in detail view but am finding that the issue is that File Explorer does not show the size of folders. It does show file sizes.

On 10/5/2018 4:22 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:
Check to see if you are still in detail view.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 11:01 AM
Subject: [nvda] reading file size


running win 10 1809 and latest NVDA. If I use file explorer and arrow down to a file or folder then use the right arrow key when you get to file size NVDA does not read the file size. Is there a way to get NVDA to read this bit of information?











Re: Using Macrium Reflect Version 7 to Take A Full System Image Backup

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

One does have to be careful with some of these. Unless you have successfully restored with one be careful not to burn your bridges, as the only way, as far as I know to do this is to do it outside of any windows environment totally.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "René Linke" <rene.linke@hamburg.de>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2018 4:28 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Macrium Reflect Version 7 to Take A Full System Image Backup


Hi,

Here's another very good accessible image backup tool for full and incremental backups.
It is very small, powerful and very fast.

http://www.drivesnapshot.de/en/

René



Re: NVDA and the audible app

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Well do not use them myself, but their attitude is surely unacceptable and arrogant in the extreme in my view. I'd actually report this to the blind organisations in the country they are in and let them have a poke at them. I would imagine they might well be shooting themselves in the foot if they stop supporting things that actually work in favour of some snazzy heap of windows app which is a format many people seem to think ill conceived and pretty dire even for the sighted.
Yes its probably more secure, but that is not the main issue.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Shook" <chris0309@samobile.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 10:07 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app


Hi,
This is mainlya request for the developers, but I'm posting it here hoping someone tells me I am mistaken.
I use the Aubible website for Audio book purchases and downloads. I conteacted Audible with a request of helping me fix an issue with the Audible download manager.
WHile they helped me fix the issue, the woman warned me that they would eventually phase out the Audible download manager because of the Audible app for Windows 10.
As of right now, unless I am very much mistaken, NVDA nor JAWS will work with the Audible app for Windows 10.
I would ask that someone look into this as it may become necessary for those of us that use the website to use the app to download books in the future.
The lady I talked to said she could not give me a time frame on when they would do away with the Audible download manager, but that they had already stopped updating it.
Regards
Chris


Re: google chrome

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

What i have been having to do is: make sure my cursor is sitting on text and not a link, alt+leftArrow and then press the applications key and back shows up there and I enter on it. 

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] google chrome

I'm not sure why that is but the work around is easy and very effective and efficient.  Use either control enter or shift enter.  Control enter opens the link in a new tab.  To close the tab containing the new page, use the command control f4.  That returns you to the tab you were in previously, containing the previous page and closes the tab you are currently in.  Or shift enter does a similar thing.  It opens the new page in a new window.  To close the new window and return to the previous window containing the previous page, use alt f4.  I don't know if one is faster than the other to open and close new pages.  You may want to compare. 
 
As I think about it, I suspect the reason you can't use the back command currently is that all new pages may be opening in new tabs.  So the first option I discussed may be occurring automatically at this time.  But to make sure that whatever option you want always happens using one of the commands I gave, control or shift enter, might be the most reliable method. 
 
If you wish, you can see what is happening when you just press enter by seeing if more than one tab is opened after following a link with just enter.  The command to move among opened tabs is control tab.  Alt tab is the way to move among more than one opened browser window if you want to do that when using shift enter to open a new window instead of a new tab.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 10:36 AM
To: NVDA
Subject: [nvda] google chrome

When i click a link and go to another page I cannot alt+left arrow to get back to the previous page. it just sits there no matter how many times i repeat the command.


Re: Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

 

For those that have not updated the fix will be included.

For those that have, it will probably make the first cumulative update, this tuesday

Nothing has been officially released on the update history so microsoft is probably banking on a cu and that will be it.

Either that, or it could be out of band, tomorrow maybe, or the day after.

On 10/6/2018 1:19 PM, Annette Moore wrote:
I was able to download it successfully as well. I have heard, however, that the update has now been blocked until they can fix the issues some people are having with files being deleted upon upgrading. I don't know if that's true or just hearsay so please don't take my word for it, but if it's true and they come up with a fix, those of us who have already upgraded won't need to upgrade yet again, will we? Or will they just put out a patch for those affected?

Annette


On 10/5/2018 6:05 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi!

I had no problem upgrading to 1809, either!

It went like clock work!

It should not require any new drivers, and downloading the 1809 a second time, should do the job!

David Moore

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*From: *Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Friday, October 5, 2018 6:59 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

Hi, Abbie,

I didn't have that problem when I was upgrading. I don't understand what could be happening.

Rosemarie

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Abbie Taylor
*Sent:* Friday, October 5, 2018 3:51 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

What about files being lost? Someone on another forum said all his files in his documents folder disappeared after he upgraded. I know it's a good idea to back things up before upgrading, but I'm wondering if anyone else had this experience after upgrading.
--
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http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
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Re: Using Macrium Reflect Version 7 to Take A Full System Image Backup

René Linke <rene.linke@...>
 

Hi,

Here's another very good accessible image backup tool for full and incremental backups.
It is very small, powerful and very fast.

http://www.drivesnapshot.de/en/

René


Using Macrium Reflect Version 7 to Take A Full System Image Backup

 

There has been much discussion on several groups about an entirely accessible backup utility with regard to actually taking a full system image backup.  I have yet to find a backup and recovery utility that is 100% accessible in all respects, but Macrium Reflect, Version 7, is 100% accessible for creating a full system image backup for "the typical user" who keeps the typical disc arrangement under Windows where all OS files and user data files are on the C: drive.

Given what's been happening over the last several days with the Windows 10 Version 1809 feature update it is really critical to take a full system image backup before it is applied.

Here's the link to download the step-by-step instructions, along with notes about setting things up, in MS-Word format:

Using Macrium Reflect With a Screen Reader To Take a Full System Image Backup

You should be presented with a Save dialog shortly after activating the link. 

I went through this process from beginning to end using NVDA to control everything.  I cannot imagine that things should be different in JAWS and possibly even Narrator.  If there are any significant differences that you encounter please share them on this topic.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


David M - Finding special symbols with N V D A

Nancy Shackelford
 

What is the name of the add on? Didn't see it on the add ons page.

Thanks,

Nance

On 9/17/18, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:
If you have the add on, the command is:
CTRL+NVDA+Four on the numbers row!
David Moore


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From: Nancy Shackelford
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 9:07 PM
To: NVDA@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Finding special symbols with N V D A

I can't seem to find this in the commands--What is the key command to
bring up the list of special symbols, such as A acute, E acute, etc?

Thanks in advance,

Nance

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Re: NVDA not reading slides in Presentation mode "slide show complete"

Pranav Lal
 

Hi,

Swap out of the presentation and then swap back in.

Pranav


Re: reading file size

Don H
 

You just taught a old dog a new trick
Thanks

On 10/5/2018 4:43 PM, Clarissa Mitchell wrote:
I can get the file size and other information by going to file
properties with alt+enter.



On 10/5/18, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
Check to see if you are still in detail view.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 11:01 AM
Subject: [nvda] reading file size


running win 10 1809 and latest NVDA. If I use file explorer and arrow down

to a file or folder then use the right arrow key when you get to file size

NVDA does not read the file size. Is there a way to get NVDA to read this

bit of information?








Re: Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

Annette Moore
 

I was able to download it successfully as well. I have heard, however, that the update has now been blocked until they can fix the issues some people are having with files being deleted upon upgrading. I don't know if that's true or just hearsay so please don't take my word for it, but if it's true and they come up with a fix, those of us who have already upgraded won't need to upgrade yet again, will we? Or will they just put out a patch for those affected?

Annette


On 10/5/2018 6:05 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi!

I had no problem upgrading to 1809, either!

It went like clock work!

It should not require any new drivers, and downloading the 1809 a second time, should do the job!

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 6:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

 

Hi, Abbie,

 

I didn't have that problem when I was upgrading. I don't understand what could be happening.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 3:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

 

What about files being lost? Someone on another forum said all his files in his documents folder disappeared after he upgraded. I know it's a good idea to back things up before upgrading, but I'm wondering if anyone else had this experience after upgrading.
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...

 



Re: google chrome

Clarissa Mitchell
 

This happens to me sometimes on Chrome as well, usually when I do a
Google search. I'll click on a result, read the article, and when I
try to go back to the search results, I find I'm still on the same
page. I go back again and I'm back to the Google search results.

On 10/5/18, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
I was fine until the latest win10 update.
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Beasley
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] google chrome


It works ok for me.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: 05 October 2018 16:36
To: NVDA
Subject: [nvda] google chrome



When i click a link and go to another page I cannot alt+left arrow to get
back to the previous page. it just sits there no matter how many times i
repeat the command.









Re: reading file size

Clarissa Mitchell
 

I can get the file size and other information by going to file
properties with alt+enter.

On 10/5/18, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
Check to see if you are still in detail view.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 11:01 AM
Subject: [nvda] reading file size


running win 10 1809 and latest NVDA. If I use file explorer and arrow down

to a file or folder then use the right arrow key when you get to file size

NVDA does not read the file size. Is there a way to get NVDA to read this

bit of information?








Re: Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

Ann Byrne
 

Didn't you say, David, that your documents were deleted? that doesn't sound like clockwork to me.

At 06:05 PM 10/5/2018, you wrote:
Hi!
I had no problem upgrading to 1809, either!
It went like clock work!
It should not require any new drivers, and downloading the 1809 a second time, should do the job!
David Moore

Sent from <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>;Mail for Windows 10

From: <mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com>Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 6:59 PM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

Hi, Abbie,

I didn't have that problem when I was upgrading. I don't understand what could be happening.

Rosemarie



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 3:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

What about files being lost? Someone on another forum said all his files in his documents folder disappeared after he upgraded. I know it's a good idea to back things up before upgrading, but I'm wondering if anyone else had this experience after upgrading.
--
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<http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com>;http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
<mailto:abbietaylor945@gmail.com>abbietaylor945@gmail.com


Re: google chrome

Gene
 

I'm not sure why that is but the work around is easy and very effective and efficient.  Use either control enter or shift enter.  Control enter opens the link in a new tab.  To close the tab containing the new page, use the command control f4.  That returns you to the tab you were in previously, containing the previous page and closes the tab you are currently in.  Or shift enter does a similar thing.  It opens the new page in a new window.  To close the new window and return to the previous window containing the previous page, use alt f4.  I don't know if one is faster than the other to open and close new pages.  You may want to compare. 
 
As I think about it, I suspect the reason you can't use the back command currently is that all new pages may be opening in new tabs.  So the first option I discussed may be occurring automatically at this time.  But to make sure that whatever option you want always happens using one of the commands I gave, control or shift enter, might be the most reliable method. 
 
If you wish, you can see what is happening when you just press enter by seeing if more than one tab is opened after following a link with just enter.  The command to move among opened tabs is control tab.  Alt tab is the way to move among more than one opened browser window if you want to do that when using shift enter to open a new window instead of a new tab.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 10:36 AM
To: NVDA
Subject: [nvda] google chrome

When i click a link and go to another page I cannot alt+left arrow to get back to the previous page. it just sits there no matter how many times i repeat the command.


Re: reading file size

Sarah k Alawami
 

It never for me showed folder sizes. What you could do in the sub linux command line is maybe a du -sh the path/to/folder. I know, tedious but it works, or maybe thats unix. But anyway, good lck.

On 5 Oct 2018, at 15:25, Don H wrote:

I am in detail view but am finding that the issue is that File Explorer does not show the size of folders.  It does show file sizes.

On 10/5/2018 4:22 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote: > Check to see if you are still in detail view. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" lmddh50@... > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 11:01 AM > Subject: [nvda] reading file size > > >> running win 10 1809 and latest NVDA. If I use file explorer and >> arrow down to a file or folder then use the right arrow key when you >> get to file size NVDA does not read the file size. Is there a way to >> get NVDA to read this bit of information? >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > >


Re: Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

Don H
 

I have found that the win 10 1809 disk cleanup has added a option to delete everything in your documents folder.  Make sure to not selete this option if you don't want your documents folder cleared out.

On 10/5/2018 5:59 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Abbie,

 

I didn't have that problem when I was upgrading. I don't understand what could be happening.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 3:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

 

What about files being lost? Someone on another forum said all his files in his documents folder disappeared after he upgraded. I know it's a good idea to back things up before upgrading, but I'm wondering if anyone else had this experience after upgrading.
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...



Re: Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

David Moore
 

Hi!

I had no problem upgrading to 1809, either!

It went like clock work!

It should not require any new drivers, and downloading the 1809 a second time, should do the job!

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 6:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

 

Hi, Abbie,

 

I didn't have that problem when I was upgrading. I don't understand what could be happening.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 3:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

 

What about files being lost? Someone on another forum said all his files in his documents folder disappeared after he upgraded. I know it's a good idea to back things up before upgrading, but I'm wondering if anyone else had this experience after upgrading.
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...

 


Re: Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Abbie,

 

I didn't have that problem when I was upgrading. I don't understand what could be happening.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 3:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

 

What about files being lost? Someone on another forum said all his files in his documents folder disappeared after he upgraded. I know it's a good idea to back things up before upgrading, but I'm wondering if anyone else had this experience after upgrading.
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...