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Re: I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

molly the blind tech lover
 

or maybe my machine's just cursed. just joking.


On Thu, 20 Dec 2018, 10:58 pm Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@... wrote:

Hi,

I’m not sure of the original cause of this, but sounds like something happened when installing some add-ons that caused manifest to disappear from some reason.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Sounds like fun. Were you and the team able to trace the cause of this so that it does not happen toother people some how?

On 20 Dec 2018, at 19:27, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

The problem was traced to incomplete add-on install – somehow, add-on manifest is missing for some add-ons Molly installed. Fixing this will require manually removing the affected add-ons via File Explorer and reinstalling the affected packages.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi. Add on updater is showing up in the manage add ons dialogue. Shall I send the log to the email address that is listed with the add on updater?  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi,

No, don’t reinstall NvDA just yet, as I’d like to see what the log says. Also, just to really make sure, is Add-on Updater showing up in add-ons manager (NvDA Menu/Tools/Manage add-ons)?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi.

The add on updater is not one of the categories in the nvda settings. I checked. I’ll try to send you the log. Just, wondering, if I perhaps reinstalled nvda, could that possibly fix things? For whatever reason this problem only occurs on one of my machines… the one I currently am so annoyed at right now.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi Molly and others,

Okay, let’s go over one thing at a time:

Add-on Updater problem: another way to find out if the add-on is working is:

  1. Go to NvDA menu/Preferences/Settings.
  2. See if Add-on Updater is one of the categories.

If Add-on Updater is one of the categories, then I’d like to know what’s up. If not, I also would like to know what’s going on.

NVDA log: typically, when people talk about NVDA log, it refers to a text file where NVDA records information as it runs. The fastest way to open this “file” is pressing NVDA+F1.

Add-on issues and logs: whenever an issue with an add-on shows up, unless if it’s an issue I know exactly what’s going on, I always ask people to restart with add-ons disabled. Then once the problem is confirmed, I sometimes ask people to restart with add-ons enabled and ask folks to send the log to developers (me included). Typically, if an add-on that provides visible user interface services (adding items to NVDA menu and its submenus) is installed but that interface doesn’t show up (such as Add-on Updater in your case), I always ask people to send the log to developers for analysis. As Add-on Updater is my add-on, I’d like to request just that – please send the entire log to me in private (press NVDA+F1, copy everything, and paste it as an email to me privately).

About Windows Insider Program: testing new features is not really the top reason for existence of Windows Insider Program; rather, the program is meant to gather feedback from testers before features ship to the rest of the world. This is the reason why Microsoft reminds people every week (or almost every week) that Insider Preview builds are not stable, and features can come and go without notice.

Molly, you’re not alone in stating that you became a Windows Insider because you’re excited about trying out new goodies here and there; you’re not the first, nor will be the last person to go through this phase (trust me, I heard similar stories in the last four years – I became a Windows Insider shortly after it was first announced in September 2014). But as beta software (or rather, an operating system going through constant flux), trying out new things has its drawbacks too, namely unstable releases from time to time. Specifically, if you have signed up to receive at least one build a week (fast and skip ahead rings, which I think is what you’ve done), you’re bound to encounter issues frequently, hence you’re encouraged to submit feedback as early as possible. If you want stability but still want to remain a Windows Insider, I recommend either going with slow ring, or opt into release preview ring (the former will give you builds known to be more stable than fast ring; the latter will not upgrade you to the next big update until it is nearly ready for the public). If you want strict stability and can’t afford to lose productivity (in other words, feel uncomfortable with living on the edge now), then perhaps Windows Insider Program might not be right for you.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I joined the insider program because I wanted to check out new windows features before they are released. It was great at first. But then I received one unstable build after another. I even had to do  a system restore because windows failed to load properly. I’m going to opt out of the insider program right now. I can’t deal with all these problems and honestly, I don’t have time to test beta software. What was I thinking?  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Why did you decide to be in the insider program?  That is asking for bugs and problems and is intended for those who want to test unreleased versions of Windows for problems.  It is something like beta testing but I'm not sure if the code you are testing is even considered beta yet.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I’m starting to really dislike this laptop lately. Life was a lot less complicated when it worked properly.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

NVDA key+n, t for tools, then press a twice. You then press enter. That will definitely do the trick.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

So I have the add on updater installed on my pc. Where do I go to check for add on updates? Thanks.


Re: I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi,

I’m not sure of the original cause of this, but sounds like something happened when installing some add-ons that caused manifest to disappear from some reason.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Sounds like fun. Were you and the team able to trace the cause of this so that it does not happen toother people some how?

On 20 Dec 2018, at 19:27, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

The problem was traced to incomplete add-on install – somehow, add-on manifest is missing for some add-ons Molly installed. Fixing this will require manually removing the affected add-ons via File Explorer and reinstalling the affected packages.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi. Add on updater is showing up in the manage add ons dialogue. Shall I send the log to the email address that is listed with the add on updater?  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi,

No, don’t reinstall NvDA just yet, as I’d like to see what the log says. Also, just to really make sure, is Add-on Updater showing up in add-ons manager (NvDA Menu/Tools/Manage add-ons)?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi.

The add on updater is not one of the categories in the nvda settings. I checked. I’ll try to send you the log. Just, wondering, if I perhaps reinstalled nvda, could that possibly fix things? For whatever reason this problem only occurs on one of my machines… the one I currently am so annoyed at right now.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi Molly and others,

Okay, let’s go over one thing at a time:

Add-on Updater problem: another way to find out if the add-on is working is:

  1. Go to NvDA menu/Preferences/Settings.
  2. See if Add-on Updater is one of the categories.

If Add-on Updater is one of the categories, then I’d like to know what’s up. If not, I also would like to know what’s going on.

NVDA log: typically, when people talk about NVDA log, it refers to a text file where NVDA records information as it runs. The fastest way to open this “file” is pressing NVDA+F1.

Add-on issues and logs: whenever an issue with an add-on shows up, unless if it’s an issue I know exactly what’s going on, I always ask people to restart with add-ons disabled. Then once the problem is confirmed, I sometimes ask people to restart with add-ons enabled and ask folks to send the log to developers (me included). Typically, if an add-on that provides visible user interface services (adding items to NVDA menu and its submenus) is installed but that interface doesn’t show up (such as Add-on Updater in your case), I always ask people to send the log to developers for analysis. As Add-on Updater is my add-on, I’d like to request just that – please send the entire log to me in private (press NVDA+F1, copy everything, and paste it as an email to me privately).

About Windows Insider Program: testing new features is not really the top reason for existence of Windows Insider Program; rather, the program is meant to gather feedback from testers before features ship to the rest of the world. This is the reason why Microsoft reminds people every week (or almost every week) that Insider Preview builds are not stable, and features can come and go without notice.

Molly, you’re not alone in stating that you became a Windows Insider because you’re excited about trying out new goodies here and there; you’re not the first, nor will be the last person to go through this phase (trust me, I heard similar stories in the last four years – I became a Windows Insider shortly after it was first announced in September 2014). But as beta software (or rather, an operating system going through constant flux), trying out new things has its drawbacks too, namely unstable releases from time to time. Specifically, if you have signed up to receive at least one build a week (fast and skip ahead rings, which I think is what you’ve done), you’re bound to encounter issues frequently, hence you’re encouraged to submit feedback as early as possible. If you want stability but still want to remain a Windows Insider, I recommend either going with slow ring, or opt into release preview ring (the former will give you builds known to be more stable than fast ring; the latter will not upgrade you to the next big update until it is nearly ready for the public). If you want strict stability and can’t afford to lose productivity (in other words, feel uncomfortable with living on the edge now), then perhaps Windows Insider Program might not be right for you.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I joined the insider program because I wanted to check out new windows features before they are released. It was great at first. But then I received one unstable build after another. I even had to do  a system restore because windows failed to load properly. I’m going to opt out of the insider program right now. I can’t deal with all these problems and honestly, I don’t have time to test beta software. What was I thinking?  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Why did you decide to be in the insider program?  That is asking for bugs and problems and is intended for those who want to test unreleased versions of Windows for problems.  It is something like beta testing but I'm not sure if the code you are testing is even considered beta yet.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I’m starting to really dislike this laptop lately. Life was a lot less complicated when it worked properly.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

NVDA key+n, t for tools, then press a twice. You then press enter. That will definitely do the trick.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

So I have the add on updater installed on my pc. Where do I go to check for add on updates? Thanks.


Re: Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?

 

Hi,

Adding that option to Add-on Updater… I’m thinking not.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?

 

Sounds good, but I won’t remember that since I don’t run command line things. I suggest a menu item to be put into NVDA add-on updater to disable all add-ons. What say you list?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 10:51:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?

 

Hi,
Yes via the following command-line text as exactly as shown (from Run dialog):

nvda -r --disable-addons

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?

 

Hi is their another way? I don’t have NVDA set to give me the options to disable all add-ons when I close NVDA cause I just want to hear the sound and bam its closed. Thanks.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?

 

If what you're asking for is a way to have NVDA restarted without add-ons enabled, then try this:
  1. Windows+R
  2. Type "nvda --disable-addons" (without the quotes)
  3. Spell the command above character by character so you won't miss any part of it.
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Re: Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?

Lino Morales
 

Sounds good, but I won’t remember that since I don’t run command line things. I suggest a menu item to be put into NVDA add-on updater to disable all add-ons. What say you list?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 10:51:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?
 

Hi,
Yes via the following command-line text as exactly as shown (from Run dialog):

nvda -r --disable-addons

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?

 

Hi is their another way? I don’t have NVDA set to give me the options to disable all add-ons when I close NVDA cause I just want to hear the sound and bam its closed. Thanks.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

Sarah k Alawami
 

Sounds like fun. Were you and the team able to trace the cause of this so that it does not happen toother people some how?

On 20 Dec 2018, at 19:27, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

The problem was traced to incomplete add-on install – somehow, add-on manifest is missing for some add-ons Molly installed. Fixing this will require manually removing the affected add-ons via File Explorer and reinstalling the affected packages.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi. Add on updater is showing up in the manage add ons dialogue. Shall I send the log to the email address that is listed with the add on updater?  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi,

No, don’t reinstall NvDA just yet, as I’d like to see what the log says. Also, just to really make sure, is Add-on Updater showing up in add-ons manager (NvDA Menu/Tools/Manage add-ons)?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi.

The add on updater is not one of the categories in the nvda settings. I checked. I’ll try to send you the log. Just, wondering, if I perhaps reinstalled nvda, could that possibly fix things? For whatever reason this problem only occurs on one of my machines… the one I currently am so annoyed at right now.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi Molly and others,

Okay, let’s go over one thing at a time:

Add-on Updater problem: another way to find out if the add-on is working is:

  1. Go to NvDA menu/Preferences/Settings.
  2. See if Add-on Updater is one of the categories.

If Add-on Updater is one of the categories, then I’d like to know what’s up. If not, I also would like to know what’s going on.

NVDA log: typically, when people talk about NVDA log, it refers to a text file where NVDA records information as it runs. The fastest way to open this “file” is pressing NVDA+F1.

Add-on issues and logs: whenever an issue with an add-on shows up, unless if it’s an issue I know exactly what’s going on, I always ask people to restart with add-ons disabled. Then once the problem is confirmed, I sometimes ask people to restart with add-ons enabled and ask folks to send the log to developers (me included). Typically, if an add-on that provides visible user interface services (adding items to NVDA menu and its submenus) is installed but that interface doesn’t show up (such as Add-on Updater in your case), I always ask people to send the log to developers for analysis. As Add-on Updater is my add-on, I’d like to request just that – please send the entire log to me in private (press NVDA+F1, copy everything, and paste it as an email to me privately).

About Windows Insider Program: testing new features is not really the top reason for existence of Windows Insider Program; rather, the program is meant to gather feedback from testers before features ship to the rest of the world. This is the reason why Microsoft reminds people every week (or almost every week) that Insider Preview builds are not stable, and features can come and go without notice.

Molly, you’re not alone in stating that you became a Windows Insider because you’re excited about trying out new goodies here and there; you’re not the first, nor will be the last person to go through this phase (trust me, I heard similar stories in the last four years – I became a Windows Insider shortly after it was first announced in September 2014). But as beta software (or rather, an operating system going through constant flux), trying out new things has its drawbacks too, namely unstable releases from time to time. Specifically, if you have signed up to receive at least one build a week (fast and skip ahead rings, which I think is what you’ve done), you’re bound to encounter issues frequently, hence you’re encouraged to submit feedback as early as possible. If you want stability but still want to remain a Windows Insider, I recommend either going with slow ring, or opt into release preview ring (the former will give you builds known to be more stable than fast ring; the latter will not upgrade you to the next big update until it is nearly ready for the public). If you want strict stability and can’t afford to lose productivity (in other words, feel uncomfortable with living on the edge now), then perhaps Windows Insider Program might not be right for you.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I joined the insider program because I wanted to check out new windows features before they are released. It was great at first. But then I received one unstable build after another. I even had to do  a system restore because windows failed to load properly. I’m going to opt out of the insider program right now. I can’t deal with all these problems and honestly, I don’t have time to test beta software. What was I thinking?  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Why did you decide to be in the insider program?  That is asking for bugs and problems and is intended for those who want to test unreleased versions of Windows for problems.  It is something like beta testing but I'm not sure if the code you are testing is even considered beta yet.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I’m starting to really dislike this laptop lately. Life was a lot less complicated when it worked properly.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

NVDA key+n, t for tools, then press a twice. You then press enter. That will definitely do the trick.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

So I have the add on updater installed on my pc. Where do I go to check for add on updates? Thanks.


Re: Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?

 

Hi,
Yes via the following command-line text as exactly as shown (from Run dialog):

nvda -r --disable-addons

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?

 

Hi is their another way? I don’t have NVDA set to give me the options to disable all add-ons when I close NVDA cause I just want to hear the sound and bam its closed. Thanks.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?

Lino Morales
 

Hi is their another way? I don’t have NVDA set to give me the options to disable all add-ons when I close NVDA cause I just want to hear the sound and bam its closed. Thanks.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi,
For reference, the steps to be taken are as follows:

  1. Restart with add-ons disabled. To do so, press NVDA+Q and select “restart with add-ons disabled” option.
  2. Go to Start (Windows key) and type “Explore NVDA user configuration directory” (without quotes) and press Enter.
  3. When “nvda” folder opens, locate a folder named “addons” and open it.
  4. Select the folder(s) for affected add-on(s) and delete them. Alternatively, select everything and delete them. If a prompt about file in use comes up, log out and log back in and repeat from step 1.
  5. Once items are gone, press Alt+F4 to close the folder.
  6. Restart NVDA, and install affected add-ons. Restart after installing each one.
  7. Verify that add-ons are back.

 

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi all,

The problem was traced to incomplete add-on install – somehow, add-on manifest is missing for some add-ons Molly installed. Fixing this will require manually removing the affected add-ons via File Explorer and reinstalling the affected packages.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi. Add on updater is showing up in the manage add ons dialogue. Shall I send the log to the email address that is listed with the add on updater?  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi,

No, don’t reinstall NvDA just yet, as I’d like to see what the log says. Also, just to really make sure, is Add-on Updater showing up in add-ons manager (NvDA Menu/Tools/Manage add-ons)?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi.

The add on updater is not one of the categories in the nvda settings. I checked. I’ll try to send you the log. Just, wondering, if I perhaps reinstalled nvda, could that possibly fix things? For whatever reason this problem only occurs on one of my machines… the one I currently am so annoyed at right now.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi Molly and others,

Okay, let’s go over one thing at a time:

Add-on Updater problem: another way to find out if the add-on is working is:

  1. Go to NvDA menu/Preferences/Settings.
  2. See if Add-on Updater is one of the categories.

If Add-on Updater is one of the categories, then I’d like to know what’s up. If not, I also would like to know what’s going on.

NVDA log: typically, when people talk about NVDA log, it refers to a text file where NVDA records information as it runs. The fastest way to open this “file” is pressing NVDA+F1.

Add-on issues and logs: whenever an issue with an add-on shows up, unless if it’s an issue I know exactly what’s going on, I always ask people to restart with add-ons disabled. Then once the problem is confirmed, I sometimes ask people to restart with add-ons enabled and ask folks to send the log to developers (me included). Typically, if an add-on that provides visible user interface services (adding items to NVDA menu and its submenus) is installed but that interface doesn’t show up (such as Add-on Updater in your case), I always ask people to send the log to developers for analysis. As Add-on Updater is my add-on, I’d like to request just that – please send the entire log to me in private (press NVDA+F1, copy everything, and paste it as an email to me privately).

About Windows Insider Program: testing new features is not really the top reason for existence of Windows Insider Program; rather, the program is meant to gather feedback from testers before features ship to the rest of the world. This is the reason why Microsoft reminds people every week (or almost every week) that Insider Preview builds are not stable, and features can come and go without notice.

Molly, you’re not alone in stating that you became a Windows Insider because you’re excited about trying out new goodies here and there; you’re not the first, nor will be the last person to go through this phase (trust me, I heard similar stories in the last four years – I became a Windows Insider shortly after it was first announced in September 2014). But as beta software (or rather, an operating system going through constant flux), trying out new things has its drawbacks too, namely unstable releases from time to time. Specifically, if you have signed up to receive at least one build a week (fast and skip ahead rings, which I think is what you’ve done), you’re bound to encounter issues frequently, hence you’re encouraged to submit feedback as early as possible. If you want stability but still want to remain a Windows Insider, I recommend either going with slow ring, or opt into release preview ring (the former will give you builds known to be more stable than fast ring; the latter will not upgrade you to the next big update until it is nearly ready for the public). If you want strict stability and can’t afford to lose productivity (in other words, feel uncomfortable with living on the edge now), then perhaps Windows Insider Program might not be right for you.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I joined the insider program because I wanted to check out new windows features before they are released. It was great at first. But then I received one unstable build after another. I even had to do  a system restore because windows failed to load properly. I’m going to opt out of the insider program right now. I can’t deal with all these problems and honestly, I don’t have time to test beta software. What was I thinking?  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Why did you decide to be in the insider program?  That is asking for bugs and problems and is intended for those who want to test unreleased versions of Windows for problems.  It is something like beta testing but I'm not sure if the code you are testing is even considered beta yet.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I’m starting to really dislike this laptop lately. Life was a lot less complicated when it worked properly.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

NVDA key+n, t for tools, then press a twice. You then press enter. That will definitely do the trick.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

So I have the add on updater installed on my pc. Where do I go to check for add on updates? Thanks.


Re: I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi all,

The problem was traced to incomplete add-on install – somehow, add-on manifest is missing for some add-ons Molly installed. Fixing this will require manually removing the affected add-ons via File Explorer and reinstalling the affected packages.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi. Add on updater is showing up in the manage add ons dialogue. Shall I send the log to the email address that is listed with the add on updater?  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi,

No, don’t reinstall NvDA just yet, as I’d like to see what the log says. Also, just to really make sure, is Add-on Updater showing up in add-ons manager (NvDA Menu/Tools/Manage add-ons)?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi.

The add on updater is not one of the categories in the nvda settings. I checked. I’ll try to send you the log. Just, wondering, if I perhaps reinstalled nvda, could that possibly fix things? For whatever reason this problem only occurs on one of my machines… the one I currently am so annoyed at right now.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi Molly and others,

Okay, let’s go over one thing at a time:

Add-on Updater problem: another way to find out if the add-on is working is:

  1. Go to NvDA menu/Preferences/Settings.
  2. See if Add-on Updater is one of the categories.

If Add-on Updater is one of the categories, then I’d like to know what’s up. If not, I also would like to know what’s going on.

NVDA log: typically, when people talk about NVDA log, it refers to a text file where NVDA records information as it runs. The fastest way to open this “file” is pressing NVDA+F1.

Add-on issues and logs: whenever an issue with an add-on shows up, unless if it’s an issue I know exactly what’s going on, I always ask people to restart with add-ons disabled. Then once the problem is confirmed, I sometimes ask people to restart with add-ons enabled and ask folks to send the log to developers (me included). Typically, if an add-on that provides visible user interface services (adding items to NVDA menu and its submenus) is installed but that interface doesn’t show up (such as Add-on Updater in your case), I always ask people to send the log to developers for analysis. As Add-on Updater is my add-on, I’d like to request just that – please send the entire log to me in private (press NVDA+F1, copy everything, and paste it as an email to me privately).

About Windows Insider Program: testing new features is not really the top reason for existence of Windows Insider Program; rather, the program is meant to gather feedback from testers before features ship to the rest of the world. This is the reason why Microsoft reminds people every week (or almost every week) that Insider Preview builds are not stable, and features can come and go without notice.

Molly, you’re not alone in stating that you became a Windows Insider because you’re excited about trying out new goodies here and there; you’re not the first, nor will be the last person to go through this phase (trust me, I heard similar stories in the last four years – I became a Windows Insider shortly after it was first announced in September 2014). But as beta software (or rather, an operating system going through constant flux), trying out new things has its drawbacks too, namely unstable releases from time to time. Specifically, if you have signed up to receive at least one build a week (fast and skip ahead rings, which I think is what you’ve done), you’re bound to encounter issues frequently, hence you’re encouraged to submit feedback as early as possible. If you want stability but still want to remain a Windows Insider, I recommend either going with slow ring, or opt into release preview ring (the former will give you builds known to be more stable than fast ring; the latter will not upgrade you to the next big update until it is nearly ready for the public). If you want strict stability and can’t afford to lose productivity (in other words, feel uncomfortable with living on the edge now), then perhaps Windows Insider Program might not be right for you.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I joined the insider program because I wanted to check out new windows features before they are released. It was great at first. But then I received one unstable build after another. I even had to do  a system restore because windows failed to load properly. I’m going to opt out of the insider program right now. I can’t deal with all these problems and honestly, I don’t have time to test beta software. What was I thinking?  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Why did you decide to be in the insider program?  That is asking for bugs and problems and is intended for those who want to test unreleased versions of Windows for problems.  It is something like beta testing but I'm not sure if the code you are testing is even considered beta yet.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I’m starting to really dislike this laptop lately. Life was a lot less complicated when it worked properly.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

NVDA key+n, t for tools, then press a twice. You then press enter. That will definitely do the trick.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

So I have the add on updater installed on my pc. Where do I go to check for add on updates? Thanks.


Re: I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

molly the blind tech lover
 

Thanks.

I’ll send you the log as soon as possible.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi,

Yes please, and thanks for all you did so far.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi. Add on updater is showing up in the manage add ons dialogue. Shall I send the log to the email address that is listed with the add on updater?  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi,

No, don’t reinstall NvDA just yet, as I’d like to see what the log says. Also, just to really make sure, is Add-on Updater showing up in add-ons manager (NvDA Menu/Tools/Manage add-ons)?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi.

The add on updater is not one of the categories in the nvda settings. I checked. I’ll try to send you the log. Just, wondering, if I perhaps reinstalled nvda, could that possibly fix things? For whatever reason this problem only occurs on one of my machines… the one I currently am so annoyed at right now.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi Molly and others,

Okay, let’s go over one thing at a time:

Add-on Updater problem: another way to find out if the add-on is working is:

  1. Go to NvDA menu/Preferences/Settings.
  2. See if Add-on Updater is one of the categories.

If Add-on Updater is one of the categories, then I’d like to know what’s up. If not, I also would like to know what’s going on.

NVDA log: typically, when people talk about NVDA log, it refers to a text file where NVDA records information as it runs. The fastest way to open this “file” is pressing NVDA+F1.

Add-on issues and logs: whenever an issue with an add-on shows up, unless if it’s an issue I know exactly what’s going on, I always ask people to restart with add-ons disabled. Then once the problem is confirmed, I sometimes ask people to restart with add-ons enabled and ask folks to send the log to developers (me included). Typically, if an add-on that provides visible user interface services (adding items to NVDA menu and its submenus) is installed but that interface doesn’t show up (such as Add-on Updater in your case), I always ask people to send the log to developers for analysis. As Add-on Updater is my add-on, I’d like to request just that – please send the entire log to me in private (press NVDA+F1, copy everything, and paste it as an email to me privately).

About Windows Insider Program: testing new features is not really the top reason for existence of Windows Insider Program; rather, the program is meant to gather feedback from testers before features ship to the rest of the world. This is the reason why Microsoft reminds people every week (or almost every week) that Insider Preview builds are not stable, and features can come and go without notice.

Molly, you’re not alone in stating that you became a Windows Insider because you’re excited about trying out new goodies here and there; you’re not the first, nor will be the last person to go through this phase (trust me, I heard similar stories in the last four years – I became a Windows Insider shortly after it was first announced in September 2014). But as beta software (or rather, an operating system going through constant flux), trying out new things has its drawbacks too, namely unstable releases from time to time. Specifically, if you have signed up to receive at least one build a week (fast and skip ahead rings, which I think is what you’ve done), you’re bound to encounter issues frequently, hence you’re encouraged to submit feedback as early as possible. If you want stability but still want to remain a Windows Insider, I recommend either going with slow ring, or opt into release preview ring (the former will give you builds known to be more stable than fast ring; the latter will not upgrade you to the next big update until it is nearly ready for the public). If you want strict stability and can’t afford to lose productivity (in other words, feel uncomfortable with living on the edge now), then perhaps Windows Insider Program might not be right for you.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I joined the insider program because I wanted to check out new windows features before they are released. It was great at first. But then I received one unstable build after another. I even had to do  a system restore because windows failed to load properly. I’m going to opt out of the insider program right now. I can’t deal with all these problems and honestly, I don’t have time to test beta software. What was I thinking?  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Why did you decide to be in the insider program?  That is asking for bugs and problems and is intended for those who want to test unreleased versions of Windows for problems.  It is something like beta testing but I'm not sure if the code you are testing is even considered beta yet.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I’m starting to really dislike this laptop lately. Life was a lot less complicated when it worked properly.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

NVDA key+n, t for tools, then press a twice. You then press enter. That will definitely do the trick.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

So I have the add on updater installed on my pc. Where do I go to check for add on updates? Thanks.


Re: I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi,

Yes please, and thanks for all you did so far.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi. Add on updater is showing up in the manage add ons dialogue. Shall I send the log to the email address that is listed with the add on updater?  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi,

No, don’t reinstall NvDA just yet, as I’d like to see what the log says. Also, just to really make sure, is Add-on Updater showing up in add-ons manager (NvDA Menu/Tools/Manage add-ons)?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi.

The add on updater is not one of the categories in the nvda settings. I checked. I’ll try to send you the log. Just, wondering, if I perhaps reinstalled nvda, could that possibly fix things? For whatever reason this problem only occurs on one of my machines… the one I currently am so annoyed at right now.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi Molly and others,

Okay, let’s go over one thing at a time:

Add-on Updater problem: another way to find out if the add-on is working is:

  1. Go to NvDA menu/Preferences/Settings.
  2. See if Add-on Updater is one of the categories.

If Add-on Updater is one of the categories, then I’d like to know what’s up. If not, I also would like to know what’s going on.

NVDA log: typically, when people talk about NVDA log, it refers to a text file where NVDA records information as it runs. The fastest way to open this “file” is pressing NVDA+F1.

Add-on issues and logs: whenever an issue with an add-on shows up, unless if it’s an issue I know exactly what’s going on, I always ask people to restart with add-ons disabled. Then once the problem is confirmed, I sometimes ask people to restart with add-ons enabled and ask folks to send the log to developers (me included). Typically, if an add-on that provides visible user interface services (adding items to NVDA menu and its submenus) is installed but that interface doesn’t show up (such as Add-on Updater in your case), I always ask people to send the log to developers for analysis. As Add-on Updater is my add-on, I’d like to request just that – please send the entire log to me in private (press NVDA+F1, copy everything, and paste it as an email to me privately).

About Windows Insider Program: testing new features is not really the top reason for existence of Windows Insider Program; rather, the program is meant to gather feedback from testers before features ship to the rest of the world. This is the reason why Microsoft reminds people every week (or almost every week) that Insider Preview builds are not stable, and features can come and go without notice.

Molly, you’re not alone in stating that you became a Windows Insider because you’re excited about trying out new goodies here and there; you’re not the first, nor will be the last person to go through this phase (trust me, I heard similar stories in the last four years – I became a Windows Insider shortly after it was first announced in September 2014). But as beta software (or rather, an operating system going through constant flux), trying out new things has its drawbacks too, namely unstable releases from time to time. Specifically, if you have signed up to receive at least one build a week (fast and skip ahead rings, which I think is what you’ve done), you’re bound to encounter issues frequently, hence you’re encouraged to submit feedback as early as possible. If you want stability but still want to remain a Windows Insider, I recommend either going with slow ring, or opt into release preview ring (the former will give you builds known to be more stable than fast ring; the latter will not upgrade you to the next big update until it is nearly ready for the public). If you want strict stability and can’t afford to lose productivity (in other words, feel uncomfortable with living on the edge now), then perhaps Windows Insider Program might not be right for you.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I joined the insider program because I wanted to check out new windows features before they are released. It was great at first. But then I received one unstable build after another. I even had to do  a system restore because windows failed to load properly. I’m going to opt out of the insider program right now. I can’t deal with all these problems and honestly, I don’t have time to test beta software. What was I thinking?  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Why did you decide to be in the insider program?  That is asking for bugs and problems and is intended for those who want to test unreleased versions of Windows for problems.  It is something like beta testing but I'm not sure if the code you are testing is even considered beta yet.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I’m starting to really dislike this laptop lately. Life was a lot less complicated when it worked properly.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

NVDA key+n, t for tools, then press a twice. You then press enter. That will definitely do the trick.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

So I have the add on updater installed on my pc. Where do I go to check for add on updates? Thanks.


Re: I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi. Add on updater is showing up in the manage add ons dialogue. Shall I send the log to the email address that is listed with the add on updater?  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi,

No, don’t reinstall NvDA just yet, as I’d like to see what the log says. Also, just to really make sure, is Add-on Updater showing up in add-ons manager (NvDA Menu/Tools/Manage add-ons)?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi.

The add on updater is not one of the categories in the nvda settings. I checked. I’ll try to send you the log. Just, wondering, if I perhaps reinstalled nvda, could that possibly fix things? For whatever reason this problem only occurs on one of my machines… the one I currently am so annoyed at right now.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi Molly and others,

Okay, let’s go over one thing at a time:

Add-on Updater problem: another way to find out if the add-on is working is:

  1. Go to NvDA menu/Preferences/Settings.
  2. See if Add-on Updater is one of the categories.

If Add-on Updater is one of the categories, then I’d like to know what’s up. If not, I also would like to know what’s going on.

NVDA log: typically, when people talk about NVDA log, it refers to a text file where NVDA records information as it runs. The fastest way to open this “file” is pressing NVDA+F1.

Add-on issues and logs: whenever an issue with an add-on shows up, unless if it’s an issue I know exactly what’s going on, I always ask people to restart with add-ons disabled. Then once the problem is confirmed, I sometimes ask people to restart with add-ons enabled and ask folks to send the log to developers (me included). Typically, if an add-on that provides visible user interface services (adding items to NVDA menu and its submenus) is installed but that interface doesn’t show up (such as Add-on Updater in your case), I always ask people to send the log to developers for analysis. As Add-on Updater is my add-on, I’d like to request just that – please send the entire log to me in private (press NVDA+F1, copy everything, and paste it as an email to me privately).

About Windows Insider Program: testing new features is not really the top reason for existence of Windows Insider Program; rather, the program is meant to gather feedback from testers before features ship to the rest of the world. This is the reason why Microsoft reminds people every week (or almost every week) that Insider Preview builds are not stable, and features can come and go without notice.

Molly, you’re not alone in stating that you became a Windows Insider because you’re excited about trying out new goodies here and there; you’re not the first, nor will be the last person to go through this phase (trust me, I heard similar stories in the last four years – I became a Windows Insider shortly after it was first announced in September 2014). But as beta software (or rather, an operating system going through constant flux), trying out new things has its drawbacks too, namely unstable releases from time to time. Specifically, if you have signed up to receive at least one build a week (fast and skip ahead rings, which I think is what you’ve done), you’re bound to encounter issues frequently, hence you’re encouraged to submit feedback as early as possible. If you want stability but still want to remain a Windows Insider, I recommend either going with slow ring, or opt into release preview ring (the former will give you builds known to be more stable than fast ring; the latter will not upgrade you to the next big update until it is nearly ready for the public). If you want strict stability and can’t afford to lose productivity (in other words, feel uncomfortable with living on the edge now), then perhaps Windows Insider Program might not be right for you.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I joined the insider program because I wanted to check out new windows features before they are released. It was great at first. But then I received one unstable build after another. I even had to do  a system restore because windows failed to load properly. I’m going to opt out of the insider program right now. I can’t deal with all these problems and honestly, I don’t have time to test beta software. What was I thinking?  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Why did you decide to be in the insider program?  That is asking for bugs and problems and is intended for those who want to test unreleased versions of Windows for problems.  It is something like beta testing but I'm not sure if the code you are testing is even considered beta yet.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I’m starting to really dislike this laptop lately. Life was a lot less complicated when it worked properly.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

NVDA key+n, t for tools, then press a twice. You then press enter. That will definitely do the trick.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

So I have the add on updater installed on my pc. Where do I go to check for add on updates? Thanks.


Re: I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi,

No, don’t reinstall NvDA just yet, as I’d like to see what the log says. Also, just to really make sure, is Add-on Updater showing up in add-ons manager (NvDA Menu/Tools/Manage add-ons)?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi.

The add on updater is not one of the categories in the nvda settings. I checked. I’ll try to send you the log. Just, wondering, if I perhaps reinstalled nvda, could that possibly fix things? For whatever reason this problem only occurs on one of my machines… the one I currently am so annoyed at right now.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi Molly and others,

Okay, let’s go over one thing at a time:

Add-on Updater problem: another way to find out if the add-on is working is:

  1. Go to NvDA menu/Preferences/Settings.
  2. See if Add-on Updater is one of the categories.

If Add-on Updater is one of the categories, then I’d like to know what’s up. If not, I also would like to know what’s going on.

NVDA log: typically, when people talk about NVDA log, it refers to a text file where NVDA records information as it runs. The fastest way to open this “file” is pressing NVDA+F1.

Add-on issues and logs: whenever an issue with an add-on shows up, unless if it’s an issue I know exactly what’s going on, I always ask people to restart with add-ons disabled. Then once the problem is confirmed, I sometimes ask people to restart with add-ons enabled and ask folks to send the log to developers (me included). Typically, if an add-on that provides visible user interface services (adding items to NVDA menu and its submenus) is installed but that interface doesn’t show up (such as Add-on Updater in your case), I always ask people to send the log to developers for analysis. As Add-on Updater is my add-on, I’d like to request just that – please send the entire log to me in private (press NVDA+F1, copy everything, and paste it as an email to me privately).

About Windows Insider Program: testing new features is not really the top reason for existence of Windows Insider Program; rather, the program is meant to gather feedback from testers before features ship to the rest of the world. This is the reason why Microsoft reminds people every week (or almost every week) that Insider Preview builds are not stable, and features can come and go without notice.

Molly, you’re not alone in stating that you became a Windows Insider because you’re excited about trying out new goodies here and there; you’re not the first, nor will be the last person to go through this phase (trust me, I heard similar stories in the last four years – I became a Windows Insider shortly after it was first announced in September 2014). But as beta software (or rather, an operating system going through constant flux), trying out new things has its drawbacks too, namely unstable releases from time to time. Specifically, if you have signed up to receive at least one build a week (fast and skip ahead rings, which I think is what you’ve done), you’re bound to encounter issues frequently, hence you’re encouraged to submit feedback as early as possible. If you want stability but still want to remain a Windows Insider, I recommend either going with slow ring, or opt into release preview ring (the former will give you builds known to be more stable than fast ring; the latter will not upgrade you to the next big update until it is nearly ready for the public). If you want strict stability and can’t afford to lose productivity (in other words, feel uncomfortable with living on the edge now), then perhaps Windows Insider Program might not be right for you.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I joined the insider program because I wanted to check out new windows features before they are released. It was great at first. But then I received one unstable build after another. I even had to do  a system restore because windows failed to load properly. I’m going to opt out of the insider program right now. I can’t deal with all these problems and honestly, I don’t have time to test beta software. What was I thinking?  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Why did you decide to be in the insider program?  That is asking for bugs and problems and is intended for those who want to test unreleased versions of Windows for problems.  It is something like beta testing but I'm not sure if the code you are testing is even considered beta yet.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I’m starting to really dislike this laptop lately. Life was a lot less complicated when it worked properly.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

NVDA key+n, t for tools, then press a twice. You then press enter. That will definitely do the trick.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

So I have the add on updater installed on my pc. Where do I go to check for add on updates? Thanks.


Re: Clock Addon doesn't save settings, nor does f12 work for time and date

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Gerardo,


I am not experiencing these issues at all.  All functions normally.  I had the update to the latest version a while ago and didn't even check to see about the 3 presses and the day of and week of the year.  All works fine here on my Windows 10 64 bit system.


On 12/20/2018 7:49 PM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:

Anyone of you guys have the latest Clock AddOn_ because f12 doesn’t say either the time or date, but it does report upon the 3rd press, the number of the day in the year, and how many days are left to the end of the year.

Also when setting up the AddON from within NVDA menú/Preferences/Options/clock settings, when it comes time to sabe the settings, they don’t appear to sabe< when I want to reopen again NVDA menú to check the settings, I get an error that tnere’s already a Settings dialogue open< to close it first before attemtping to go back into the NVDA settings área. Any ideas what might be going on?

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi.

The add on updater is not one of the categories in the nvda settings. I checked. I’ll try to send you the log. Just, wondering, if I perhaps reinstalled nvda, could that possibly fix things? For whatever reason this problem only occurs on one of my machines… the one I currently am so annoyed at right now.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi Molly and others,

Okay, let’s go over one thing at a time:

Add-on Updater problem: another way to find out if the add-on is working is:

  1. Go to NvDA menu/Preferences/Settings.
  2. See if Add-on Updater is one of the categories.

If Add-on Updater is one of the categories, then I’d like to know what’s up. If not, I also would like to know what’s going on.

NVDA log: typically, when people talk about NVDA log, it refers to a text file where NVDA records information as it runs. The fastest way to open this “file” is pressing NVDA+F1.

Add-on issues and logs: whenever an issue with an add-on shows up, unless if it’s an issue I know exactly what’s going on, I always ask people to restart with add-ons disabled. Then once the problem is confirmed, I sometimes ask people to restart with add-ons enabled and ask folks to send the log to developers (me included). Typically, if an add-on that provides visible user interface services (adding items to NVDA menu and its submenus) is installed but that interface doesn’t show up (such as Add-on Updater in your case), I always ask people to send the log to developers for analysis. As Add-on Updater is my add-on, I’d like to request just that – please send the entire log to me in private (press NVDA+F1, copy everything, and paste it as an email to me privately).

About Windows Insider Program: testing new features is not really the top reason for existence of Windows Insider Program; rather, the program is meant to gather feedback from testers before features ship to the rest of the world. This is the reason why Microsoft reminds people every week (or almost every week) that Insider Preview builds are not stable, and features can come and go without notice.

Molly, you’re not alone in stating that you became a Windows Insider because you’re excited about trying out new goodies here and there; you’re not the first, nor will be the last person to go through this phase (trust me, I heard similar stories in the last four years – I became a Windows Insider shortly after it was first announced in September 2014). But as beta software (or rather, an operating system going through constant flux), trying out new things has its drawbacks too, namely unstable releases from time to time. Specifically, if you have signed up to receive at least one build a week (fast and skip ahead rings, which I think is what you’ve done), you’re bound to encounter issues frequently, hence you’re encouraged to submit feedback as early as possible. If you want stability but still want to remain a Windows Insider, I recommend either going with slow ring, or opt into release preview ring (the former will give you builds known to be more stable than fast ring; the latter will not upgrade you to the next big update until it is nearly ready for the public). If you want strict stability and can’t afford to lose productivity (in other words, feel uncomfortable with living on the edge now), then perhaps Windows Insider Program might not be right for you.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I joined the insider program because I wanted to check out new windows features before they are released. It was great at first. But then I received one unstable build after another. I even had to do  a system restore because windows failed to load properly. I’m going to opt out of the insider program right now. I can’t deal with all these problems and honestly, I don’t have time to test beta software. What was I thinking?  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Why did you decide to be in the insider program?  That is asking for bugs and problems and is intended for those who want to test unreleased versions of Windows for problems.  It is something like beta testing but I'm not sure if the code you are testing is even considered beta yet.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I’m starting to really dislike this laptop lately. Life was a lot less complicated when it worked properly.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

NVDA key+n, t for tools, then press a twice. You then press enter. That will definitely do the trick.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

So I have the add on updater installed on my pc. Where do I go to check for add on updates? Thanks.


Re: I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hi Molly and others,

Okay, let’s go over one thing at a time:

Add-on Updater problem: another way to find out if the add-on is working is:

  1. Go to NvDA menu/Preferences/Settings.
  2. See if Add-on Updater is one of the categories.

If Add-on Updater is one of the categories, then I’d like to know what’s up. If not, I also would like to know what’s going on.

NVDA log: typically, when people talk about NVDA log, it refers to a text file where NVDA records information as it runs. The fastest way to open this “file” is pressing NVDA+F1.

Add-on issues and logs: whenever an issue with an add-on shows up, unless if it’s an issue I know exactly what’s going on, I always ask people to restart with add-ons disabled. Then once the problem is confirmed, I sometimes ask people to restart with add-ons enabled and ask folks to send the log to developers (me included). Typically, if an add-on that provides visible user interface services (adding items to NVDA menu and its submenus) is installed but that interface doesn’t show up (such as Add-on Updater in your case), I always ask people to send the log to developers for analysis. As Add-on Updater is my add-on, I’d like to request just that – please send the entire log to me in private (press NVDA+F1, copy everything, and paste it as an email to me privately).

About Windows Insider Program: testing new features is not really the top reason for existence of Windows Insider Program; rather, the program is meant to gather feedback from testers before features ship to the rest of the world. This is the reason why Microsoft reminds people every week (or almost every week) that Insider Preview builds are not stable, and features can come and go without notice.

Molly, you’re not alone in stating that you became a Windows Insider because you’re excited about trying out new goodies here and there; you’re not the first, nor will be the last person to go through this phase (trust me, I heard similar stories in the last four years – I became a Windows Insider shortly after it was first announced in September 2014). But as beta software (or rather, an operating system going through constant flux), trying out new things has its drawbacks too, namely unstable releases from time to time. Specifically, if you have signed up to receive at least one build a week (fast and skip ahead rings, which I think is what you’ve done), you’re bound to encounter issues frequently, hence you’re encouraged to submit feedback as early as possible. If you want stability but still want to remain a Windows Insider, I recommend either going with slow ring, or opt into release preview ring (the former will give you builds known to be more stable than fast ring; the latter will not upgrade you to the next big update until it is nearly ready for the public). If you want strict stability and can’t afford to lose productivity (in other words, feel uncomfortable with living on the edge now), then perhaps Windows Insider Program might not be right for you.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I joined the insider program because I wanted to check out new windows features before they are released. It was great at first. But then I received one unstable build after another. I even had to do  a system restore because windows failed to load properly. I’m going to opt out of the insider program right now. I can’t deal with all these problems and honestly, I don’t have time to test beta software. What was I thinking?  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Why did you decide to be in the insider program?  That is asking for bugs and problems and is intended for those who want to test unreleased versions of Windows for problems.  It is something like beta testing but I'm not sure if the code you are testing is even considered beta yet.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I’m starting to really dislike this laptop lately. Life was a lot less complicated when it worked properly.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

NVDA key+n, t for tools, then press a twice. You then press enter. That will definitely do the trick.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

So I have the add on updater installed on my pc. Where do I go to check for add on updates? Thanks.


Re: I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

molly the blind tech lover
 

Yep, it’s terrible. I didn’t see an option to opt out completely, so apparently I’m going to keep getting insider  builds  until the next public release, and then the machine will opt out automatically. I can’t wait for that day to arrive.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

I loved the insider program but it was 1 update that caused me to leve. I had to reformat totally in order to role back as it was 6 months in. It was good, but now it has for me gotten crappy.

On 20 Dec 2018, at 17:30, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

Well I joined the insider program because I wanted to check out new windows features before they are released. It was great at first. But then I received one unstable build after another. I even had to do  a system restore because windows failed to load properly. I’m going to opt out of the insider program right now. I can’t deal with all these problems and honestly, I don’t have time to test beta software. What was I thinking?  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Why did you decide to be in the insider program?  That is asking for bugs and problems and is intended for those who want to test unreleased versions of Windows for problems.  It is something like beta testing but I'm not sure if the code you are testing is even considered beta yet.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I’m starting to really dislike this laptop lately. Life was a lot less complicated when it worked properly.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

NVDA key+n, t for tools, then press a twice. You then press enter. That will definitely do the trick.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

So I have the add on updater installed on my pc. Where do I go to check for add on updates? Thanks.


Re: I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

Sarah k Alawami
 

I loved the insider program but it was 1 update that caused me to leve. I had to reformat totally in order to role back as it was 6 months in. It was good, but now it has for me gotten crappy.

On 20 Dec 2018, at 17:30, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

Well I joined the insider program because I wanted to check out new windows features before they are released. It was great at first. But then I received one unstable build after another. I even had to do  a system restore because windows failed to load properly. I’m going to opt out of the insider program right now. I can’t deal with all these problems and honestly, I don’t have time to test beta software. What was I thinking?  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Why did you decide to be in the insider program?  That is asking for bugs and problems and is intended for those who want to test unreleased versions of Windows for problems.  It is something like beta testing but I'm not sure if the code you are testing is even considered beta yet.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I’m starting to really dislike this laptop lately. Life was a lot less complicated when it worked properly.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

NVDA key+n, t for tools, then press a twice. You then press enter. That will definitely do the trick.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

So I have the add on updater installed on my pc. Where do I go to check for add on updates? Thanks.


Re: I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

molly the blind tech lover
 

Well I joined the insider program because I wanted to check out new windows features before they are released. It was great at first. But then I received one unstable build after another. I even had to do  a system restore because windows failed to load properly. I’m going to opt out of the insider program right now. I can’t deal with all these problems and honestly, I don’t have time to test beta software. What was I thinking?  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Why did you decide to be in the insider program?  That is asking for bugs and problems and is intended for those who want to test unreleased versions of Windows for problems.  It is something like beta testing but I'm not sure if the code you are testing is even considered beta yet.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Well I’m starting to really dislike this laptop lately. Life was a lot less complicated when it worked properly.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

NVDA key+n, t for tools, then press a twice. You then press enter. That will definitely do the trick.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

So I have the add on updater installed on my pc. Where do I go to check for add on updates? Thanks.