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Re: VIDEO GAMING

John Isige
 

If it does indeed involve using NVDA, I don't know about anybody else,
but I wish you'd post to the list instead. Or at least link to a guide.
If you're using NVDA for some of it then I'd think that would be topical
and I'd be interested in learning more about it all.

On 1/14/2019 19:27, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

No, actually not. He means video games such as forza and pubg and sea
of theves. I'll gt back to him off list as some of these we can play
with the use of the controlers and nvda, kind of.

Take care

On 14 Jan 2019, at 14:50, Adel Spence wrote:

I think site you are looking for is:
www.audiogames.net

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Richard Bartholomew <mailto:rlbart53@gmail.com>
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2019 6:38 PM
*Subject:* Re: [nvda]VIDEO GAMING

Thanks for the pointers and the offer of further information.
 Over the years, I’ve dabbled with adventure and strategy
games but what intrigues me is the idea of video gaming –
okay, maybe I should say here that my interpretation of video
gaming is the narrow one of “shoot ‘em up” style of game which
I’m having trouble picturing with speech only! Also, I’m
assuming that this is the type of games referred to earlier as
it’s generally the video aspect of games which is memory and
processor intensive.

I’ll definitely go and look for that accessible gaming site,
though, to see what’s available.

Thanks again.

Richard Bartholomew

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*goshawk on horseback
*Sent:* 14 January 2019 22:04
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda]VIDEO GAMING
*Importance:* High

I don't know about mainstream games, but there are quite a
number of games designed for us, which are either self
voicing, or that should work with NVDA.

there is a site that lists most if not all of them, but I
can't remember what it is.

there is also the blind gamers e-mail list at:

blind-gamers+subscribe@groups.io
<mailto:blind-gamers+subscribe@groups.io>

where you should be able to get info on just about any
accessible game out there.

have you given any thought to what types of games you would be
interested in?

Simon

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Richard Bartholomew <mailto:rlbart53@gmail.com>

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Sent:*Monday, January 14, 2019 9:52 PM

*Subject:*[nvda]VIDEO GAMING

Hi,

Earlier today, I saw a message from someone saying they
were a video gamer and am interested to know what video
games are accessible via NVDA to a totally blind user,
please, as this may be an avenue I’d like to explore.

Thanks for any info.

Richard Bartholomew


Re: What does this error mean?

Annette Moore
 

I got that error once but I can't remember now what I was doing. I remember feeling a bit alarmed by it, though. I've not seen it again since then, though.

Annette

On 1/14/2019 9:57 PM, Clarissa Mitchell wrote:
Hello NVDA users. For a little while now, I have been seeing this when
I run, particularly, Firefox with NVDA, although I can't really be
sure it's Firefox that is causing the problem. But Firefox does appear
to be very sluggish with NVDA. Here is the message:

The window title says: NVDA helper remote injection terminate
and the dialog says: error, waiting for local thread to die, already
dead or not responding

I notice this sometimes when I press CTRL+ALT+n to restart NVDA after
it has stopped speaking for some unknown reason.

I just got the NVDA update today, and it did not fix the problem. I
think I first noticed this error last week. I have never encountered
such an error before.


Re: Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

MariaRosa Chapman
 

I was able to install with no problem, and it's working fine. no stuttering.



Maria


On 15/01/2019 08:49, Annette Moore wrote:

No stuttering of any kind here, but I did have to try installing the update toNVDA twice because something must've gone wrong the first time. There was no error that I could find; it just didn't install, so I restarted NVDA and went through the downloading and installation again, and it worked that time. All seems to be in fine working order now from this end.

Annette

On 1/14/2019 12:58 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

I’d like to find out if others who have updated to 2018.4.1 are also experiencing audio issues after doing so (I’m running an equivalent alpha build and not experiencing it, but I’ll leave open all sorts of possibilities).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 10:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

I consider myself very lucky as I didn't get any update to nvda this morning. If it does show up, I'll cancel out of it until this problem is fixed.

 

Roger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 1/14/2019 12:06 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Yes, I reported the same after updating to NVDA and Windows latest versions.  My other laptop which is still using NVDA 2017.3 and Win10 version 1803 has no problems.  I am about to use the recovery USB on my Acer laptop as the stuttering starts after every 2 or 3 min of use.  It is very annoying.  I tried everything to no use!

Blessings

Pascal    

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 12:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

Hello,

just updated to the latest NVDA update and whenever i'm browsing my computer, working online and such, I occasionally get this weird audio stuttering. All realtek drivers are up to date. Prior to updating I did not experience any issues. Has anyone else experienced? Thanks.

armando

 


Re: I'm so grateful for Nvda

Quentin Christensen
 

Thank you everyone!

On behalf of the NV Access team, we really appreciate hearing from everyone and being able to make a difference.  Here's to 2019 being even better again!

Quentin.


On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 8:53 PM zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hello.
i love nvda very much.
i believe that becoming familiar with nvda is one of the greatest
bounties and favors of God for me.
i always appreciate God for his grace and also developers of nvda who
made this blessing possible for me.
i always pray for them in my five times obligatory daily prayers and
request divine infinite mercy and blessings for them.
i use nvda every day, i cant immagine one
day without nvda and i requested God to help me use nvda in all of my
lifetime and by his grace, i wish to use nvda forever even if one day,
i become sighted!
i really love iven3, its voice is very sweete, lovely, kind and
friendly and i love it very much and enjoy if i read hundreds of
pages.

On 1/9/19, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
> I do have a demo version of Jaws on this computer. Yes, it is a good idea to
> have at least two screen readers in case one crashes.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte
> Single
> Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 9:16 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm so grateful for Nvda
>
>
>
> As many people on this and other lists point out, it is a good idea to have
> a second screen reader on your  machine.  This is where the 40  minute demo
> of jaws is sometimes helpful.
>
> Now there is 1 positive thing I can say about the jaws business.
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
> Sent: January-09-19 10:49 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm so grateful for Nvda
>
>
>
> Hi.
>
> I used to use Jaws. Ever since I was little. But then in 2017 I switched to
> NVDA when I purchased a new laptop. I am using NVDA full time now as well,
> not looking to buy a Jaws sma anytime soon.
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>  <nvda@nvda.groups.io
> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
> Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 11:04 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm so grateful for Nvda
>
>
>
> I too am very grateful for NVDA. I used to use a different screen reader but
> I couldn't afford the upgrades anymore so I switched to NVDA full-time in
> 2011. I haven't looked back.
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sociohack AC
> Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 6:30 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm so grateful for Nvda
>
>
>
> Same here. I love it's free and so flexible. I can install it on my home PC
> and my work PC, without any inconvenience to my employer. The world of
> computers and internet stays wholistic and in place, thanks to NVDA.
> --
> Regards,
> Sociohack
>
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--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
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Re: What does this error mean?

 

Hi,
Technical: in some cases, NVDA relies on a DLL to perform browse mode related work. The job of this DLL is to go inside a web browser process (firefox.exe, for instance) and gather as much info about the currently open web document so NVDA can display it via its own method on the fly. Not all web browsers (and document rendering engines) will permit such an operation (Microsoft Edge is one such case), and for these, NVDA relies on API's exposed by the web browser's rendering engine( this is one of the reasons why you can't navigate to visited links quickly in Edge via first letter navigation commands, one of the visible limitations).
Cheers,
Jsoeph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 8:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What does this error mean?

Hi Clarissa,
This usually means NVDA tried to perform work related to browse mode management or other operation, and somehow, things didn't work out. Usually logging out and back in fixes this.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Clarissa Mitchell
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 7:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] What does this error mean?

Hello NVDA users. For a little while now, I have been seeing this when I run, particularly, Firefox with NVDA, although I can't really be sure it's Firefox that is causing the problem. But Firefox does appear to be very sluggish with NVDA. Here is the message:

The window title says: NVDA helper remote injection terminate and the dialog says: error, waiting for local thread to die, already dead or not responding

I notice this sometimes when I press CTRL+ALT+n to restart NVDA after it has stopped speaking for some unknown reason.

I just got the NVDA update today, and it did not fix the problem. I think I first noticed this error last week. I have never encountered such an error before.


Re: What does this error mean?

 

I used to get this message with an old computer.
Until now, I didn't ever known what it exactly is.
So I'll be looking to this thread, maybe I can finally find out what was disturbing me those days.

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter

Em 15/01/2019 01:57, Clarissa Mitchell escreveu:

Hello NVDA users. For a little while now, I have been seeing this when
I run, particularly, Firefox with NVDA, although I can't really be
sure it's Firefox that is causing the problem. But Firefox does appear
to be very sluggish with NVDA. Here is the message:

The window title says: NVDA helper remote injection terminate
and the dialog says: error, waiting for local thread to die, already
dead or not responding

I notice this sometimes when I press CTRL+ALT+n to restart NVDA after
it has stopped speaking for some unknown reason.

I just got the NVDA update today, and it did not fix the problem. I
think I first noticed this error last week. I have never encountered
such an error before.






Re: What does this error mean?

 

Hi Clarissa,
This usually means NVDA tried to perform work related to browse mode management or other operation, and somehow, things didn't work out. Usually logging out and back in fixes this.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Clarissa Mitchell
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 7:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] What does this error mean?

Hello NVDA users. For a little while now, I have been seeing this when I run, particularly, Firefox with NVDA, although I can't really be sure it's Firefox that is causing the problem. But Firefox does appear to be very sluggish with NVDA. Here is the message:

The window title says: NVDA helper remote injection terminate and the dialog says: error, waiting for local thread to die, already dead or not responding

I notice this sometimes when I press CTRL+ALT+n to restart NVDA after it has stopped speaking for some unknown reason.

I just got the NVDA update today, and it did not fix the problem. I think I first noticed this error last week. I have never encountered such an error before.


What does this error mean?

Clarissa Mitchell
 

Hello NVDA users. For a little while now, I have been seeing this when
I run, particularly, Firefox with NVDA, although I can't really be
sure it's Firefox that is causing the problem. But Firefox does appear
to be very sluggish with NVDA. Here is the message:

The window title says: NVDA helper remote injection terminate
and the dialog says: error, waiting for local thread to die, already
dead or not responding

I notice this sometimes when I press CTRL+ALT+n to restart NVDA after
it has stopped speaking for some unknown reason.

I just got the NVDA update today, and it did not fix the problem. I
think I first noticed this error last week. I have never encountered
such an error before.


Re: Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications

Gene
 

Your specifications for the average user are inflated. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications

Dear Sarah & List:

 

You are correct, video editing can require much RAM and CPU power, so can Audio Editing; however, it depends on your editing program.

 

Sound Forge is a RAM hog and a CPU power lover. Goldwave on the other hand, has a much lighter footprint on your PC, same for the Olympus Sonority multitrack audio editor.

 

MS Word can be a RAM glutton if you are editing and spell checking mammoth-size files. Alternatively, using the Generate command to produce your final document, deleting strikeouts, inserting red lined material, etc.

Excel can be a RAM pig and CPU power hog, however do you really want to run the Decennial Census of the United States using Excel spreadsheets on your PC? Alternatively, recalculate truly massive spreadsheets, calculating the cost of running the General Electric Company or Boeing Aircraft for a calendar Quarter? You

 

Is Outlook is a relatively light user of ram & CPU power, when reading mail, you just display messages on the  messages, which takes little resources,  when reading mail, it displays messages on the screen advancing page by page relatively slowly. When composing spell checking, it uses more CPU power

 

If you deal with typical spreadsheets for a small organization, such as the PTA or your Church or Temple, you will not overload your PC.

 

As the PC swaps memory, too disk and accesses other files with spell check dictionaries and such.

 

Sound editing smaller files is much easier than for larger files

Yes, if you demand top performance, ask for an Intel I8 CPU with all the DDR4 RAM the PC will hold, with a discrete Video card to relieve the PC of the work of painting the display. This is especially important if you do animation.

 

However, for the average user you can live with 16 GB of DDR4 RAM and an Intel I6 or 7 chip.

CAD/CAM can use much CPU and RAM.

Brian K. Lingard

 

 

Doing CAD/CAM and other heavy computational tasks call Sent: January 11, 2019 5:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications

 

The student say "heavy intense application" so in my mind that is video editing, excel, word, outlook, power point, audio editing software, video rendering and editing software. Run all of that at once, and even an 8-gig machine will choke. My capture card required eight gigs so I plug that in, watch my fans spin up and watch it use eight gigs of ram leaving me with 24 to play with. Forza uses I think about 4-8, I do not know how much nvda uses but by the time I am done I will have used most if not all of my ram in a day.

On 11 Jan 2019, at 13:46, Gene wrote:

I did not say you should buy one.  I said that it is still very useable as a demonstration that you can buy a machine that, if it is reasonably powerful, not a power user machine, but in the moderate price range, it should be expected to be very useable for years.  That is, of course, if the machine meets your needs, and we are talking about typical uses, and if your needs do not change dramatically regarding the power of machine you need.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 3:31 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications

 

Hehahahahaha. 20011? Well, I know we are in 2019. I do know what you meant, but I would not buy a machine that old at all. My buddies mac is starting to finally show its age and it's 6 years old. He went to go sell it and didn't, they would have only given him 50 cents for it. Um? Wow?

True I'm not the normal computer user, but I never was even when I was learning how to use windows in 2001, or was it 2002? I wanted to learn it all, do it all, use all the power I could.

Take care

On 11 Jan 2019, at 13:14, Gene wrote:

I wouldn't pay a lot of money for a three-year-old machine and less for older ones.  And I would be unlikely to buy a machine from a private person, regardless of how new it is unless I was going to reformat it or use the Windows 10 feature to return the machine to the original Windows state.  Who knows what malware might be on the machine. 

 

But a one year limit for a typical user is arbitrary and not applicable. 

 

The kinds of uses being discussed, browsing, e-mail, word processing, streaming, etc. are not intensive operations.  Computers purchased five six, eight years ago, if reasonably powerful, can perform them today.  I have a laptop from 20011 that was about a $500 machine when it was purchasedit still performs those tasks very well. 

 

The general advice is that when a computer becomes five years old, it shouldn't be considered reliable, and that is one reason I wouldn't spend a lot of money on a machine three years old or older.  But many machines work for eight or ten or more years so if the price is right, it's a good gamble if you want to gamble. 

 

Gene 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 2:48 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications

 

Actually I would not let even that student touch anything over a year old. I don't care if it still works. Many companies don't support let's say a 7 year old machine the school might be giving to their students. If the school can afford it let them buy refers that are a year old if that is even possible as long as they have 8 or 16 gigs of ram and the students can use them for class but anything over a year old at least in terms of school settings is yucky to me.

I know a family member who is at their office still using windows I think it's 7. They refuse to upgrade the their machines are 10 years old, but what would you expect from most people who don't really care about this stuff.

 

If I could afford it I would replace my computers every year or 2 even though they still work. It's staying up to date with technology and going with the best if you can, at least to me.

 

On 11 Jan 2019, at 12:34, Brian Vogel wrote:

Sarah,

            You really seem to be spinning out over these last several posts.   This really is not about you, or your needs or wants, but trying to offer advice regarding how best to make buying decisions related to computers in general.

             It's not that your needs are wrong, but they're utterly irrelevant to what I've seen as the broader point of this whole topic.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Senior citizan support

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I have remote 2.1
***
Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
****

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Senior citizan support


Well its going to also need the older version of remote. Does anyone know if the current version will work with the older nvda? This is something I've been meaning to ask for a while as there are still a lot of xp machines out there just doing basic stuff.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Doc Wright godfearer" <godfearer@comcast.net>
To: "NVDA" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 4:09 PM
Subject: [nvda] Senior citizan support


I am working with an older lady who is running XP home. which version of NVDA
do I need that works with nvdaRemote? ***
Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
****







Re: VIDEO GAMING

Sarah k Alawami
 

No, actually not. He means video games such as forza and pubg and sea of theves. I'll gt back to him off list as some of these we can play with the use of the controlers and nvda, kind of.

Take care

On 14 Jan 2019, at 14:50, Adel Spence wrote:

I think site you are looking for is:
www.audiogames.net
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda]VIDEO GAMING

Thanks for the pointers and the offer of further information.  Over the years, I’ve dabbled with adventure and strategy games but what intrigues me is the idea of video gaming – okay, maybe I should say here that my interpretation of video gaming is the narrow one of “shoot ‘em up” style of game which I’m having trouble picturing with speech only!  Also, I’m assuming that this is the type of games referred to earlier as it’s generally the video aspect of games which is memory and processor intensive.

 

I’ll definitely go and look for that accessible gaming site, though, to see what’s available.

 

Thanks again.

 

Richard Bartholomew

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback
Sent: 14 January 2019 22:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda]VIDEO GAMING
Importance: High

 

I don't know about mainstream games, but there are quite a number of games designed for us, which are either self voicing, or that should work with NVDA.

there is a site that lists most if not all of them, but I can't remember what it is.

there is also the blind gamers e-mail list at:

where you should be able to get info on just about any accessible game out there.

have you given any thought to what types of games you would be interested in?

 

Simon

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 9:52 PM

Subject: [nvda]VIDEO GAMING

 

Hi,

 

Earlier today, I saw a message from someone saying they were a video gamer and am interested to know what video games are accessible via NVDA to a totally blind user, please, as this may be an avenue I’d like to explore.

 

Thanks for any info.

 

Richard Bartholomew

 


Re: Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

I havn't ever had this issue, then again, I have the latest official drivers, What I usually do with a new build is get all the stuff I need, and install it then connect to the net otherwise ms pulls generic stuff down and it gets really confused.



On 15/01/2019 10:28 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't make disk images so I'll let others answer the question. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

I understand and really appreciate your concern.  I also installed an earlier version of NVDA with no success.  The stuttering is happening with all included synthesizers and with Eloquent.  I am suspecting it is my Acer laptop as I had to resort to this drastic measure before.

I used the recovery USB and it did take much time.  The laptop is singing again nicely.  I don’t dare to update NVDA to the latest version.  I am using 2017.3. I’ll wait for a while before I update.  Before I go, I have one question, is there an image program you would recommend?  I ask as the “system restore” is not trustworthy.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 2:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

That sounds like a lot of work.   Is there anything important you want to do with the newest NVDA version or anything important you believe will be possible you will want to do in versions that will be upcoming in the next year or two? 

 

In addition, what if you try a different synthesizer.  Which one are you using now? It might make more sense to go back to the version of NVDA you were using until there is a reason or reasons to go through all that work in terms of a meaningful benefit or benefits. 

 

And, in the short term, if enough people report this problem, it will be addressed by the developers.  it may be that there is something about your laptop and some others that will never be known, that causes you to have this problem and it may be corrected by the developers.  So even if you have reasons to want to use the latest update now, it might be better to wait and see how things develop.

 

Gene 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 1:08 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

I have tried your kind suggestions but with no success.  I am resorting to the hammer solution wiping my Acer laptop clean and rebuilding it from scratch.  My other HP laptop is working fine with NVDA 2017.3 and Win10 1803 version.  I honestly do not dare updating NVDA and Win10 at this time.

Many thanks.

Blessings

Pascal 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adriani Botez
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 2:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

I have updated but I didn’t notice any audio problem.

 

After restarting your PC, try to restart NVDA with allo add-ons disabled. Does the issue still occur?

 

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Joseph Lee
Gesendet: Montag, 14. Januar 2019 19:58
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

Hi,

I’d like to find out if others who have updated to 2018.4.1 are also experiencing audio issues after doing so (I’m running an equivalent alpha build and not experiencing it, but I’ll leave open all sorts of possibilities).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 10:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

I consider myself very lucky as I didn't get any update to nvda this morning. If it does show up, I'll cancel out of it until this problem is fixed.

 

Roger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 1/14/2019 12:06 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Yes, I reported the same after updating to NVDA and Windows latest versions.  My other laptop which is still using NVDA 2017.3 and Win10 version 1803 has no problems.  I am about to use the recovery USB on my Acer laptop as the stuttering starts after every 2 or 3 min of use.  It is very annoying.  I tried everything to no use!

Blessings

Pascal    

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 12:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

Hello,

just updated to the latest NVDA update and whenever i'm browsing my computer, working online and such, I occasionally get this weird audio stuttering. All realtek drivers are up to date. Prior to updating I did not experience any issues. Has anyone else experienced? Thanks.

armando

 


Re: Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Sarah & List:

 

You are correct, video editing can require much RAM and CPU power, so can Audio Editing; however, it depends on your editing program.

 

Sound Forge is a RAM hog and a CPU power lover. Goldwave on the other hand, has a much lighter footprint on your PC, same for the Olympus Sonority multitrack audio editor.

 

MS Word can be a RAM glutton if you are editing and spell checking mammoth-size files. Alternatively, using the Generate command to produce your final document, deleting strikeouts, inserting red lined material, etc.

Excel can be a RAM pig and CPU power hog, however do you really want to run the Decennial Census of the United States using Excel spreadsheets on your PC? Alternatively, recalculate truly massive spreadsheets, calculating the cost of running the General Electric Company or Boeing Aircraft for a calendar Quarter? You

 

Is Outlook is a relatively light user of ram & CPU power, when reading mail, you just display messages on the  messages, which takes little resources,  when reading mail, it displays messages on the screen advancing page by page relatively slowly. When composing spell checking, it uses more CPU power

 

If you deal with typical spreadsheets for a small organization, such as the PTA or your Church or Temple, you will not overload your PC.

 

As the PC swaps memory, too disk and accesses other files with spell check dictionaries and such.

 

Sound editing smaller files is much easier than for larger files

Yes, if you demand top performance, ask for an Intel I8 CPU with all the DDR4 RAM the PC will hold, with a discrete Video card to relieve the PC of the work of painting the display. This is especially important if you do animation.

 

However, for the average user you can live with 16 GB of DDR4 RAM and an Intel I6 or 7 chip.

CAD/CAM can use much CPU and RAM.

Brian K. Lingard

 

 

Doing CAD/CAM and other heavy computational tasks call Sent: January 11, 2019 5:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications

 

The student say "heavy intense application" so in my mind that is video editing, excel, word, outlook, power point, audio editing software, video rendering and editing software. Run all of that at once, and even an 8-gig machine will choke. My capture card required eight gigs so I plug that in, watch my fans spin up and watch it use eight gigs of ram leaving me with 24 to play with. Forza uses I think about 4-8, I do not know how much nvda uses but by the time I am done I will have used most if not all of my ram in a day.

On 11 Jan 2019, at 13:46, Gene wrote:

I did not say you should buy one.  I said that it is still very useable as a demonstration that you can buy a machine that, if it is reasonably powerful, not a power user machine, but in the moderate price range, it should be expected to be very useable for years.  That is, of course, if the machine meets your needs, and we are talking about typical uses, and if your needs do not change dramatically regarding the power of machine you need.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 3:31 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications

 

Hehahahahaha. 20011? Well, I know we are in 2019. I do know what you meant, but I would not buy a machine that old at all. My buddies mac is starting to finally show its age and it's 6 years old. He went to go sell it and didn't, they would have only given him 50 cents for it. Um? Wow?

True I'm not the normal computer user, but I never was even when I was learning how to use windows in 2001, or was it 2002? I wanted to learn it all, do it all, use all the power I could.

Take care

On 11 Jan 2019, at 13:14, Gene wrote:

I wouldn't pay a lot of money for a three-year-old machine and less for older ones.  And I would be unlikely to buy a machine from a private person, regardless of how new it is unless I was going to reformat it or use the Windows 10 feature to return the machine to the original Windows state.  Who knows what malware might be on the machine. 

 

But a one year limit for a typical user is arbitrary and not applicable. 

 

The kinds of uses being discussed, browsing, e-mail, word processing, streaming, etc. are not intensive operations.  Computers purchased five six, eight years ago, if reasonably powerful, can perform them today.  I have a laptop from 20011 that was about a $500 machine when it was purchasedit still performs those tasks very well. 

 

The general advice is that when a computer becomes five years old, it shouldn't be considered reliable, and that is one reason I wouldn't spend a lot of money on a machine three years old or older.  But many machines work for eight or ten or more years so if the price is right, it's a good gamble if you want to gamble. 

 

Gene 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 2:48 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications

 

Actually I would not let even that student touch anything over a year old. I don't care if it still works. Many companies don't support let's say a 7 year old machine the school might be giving to their students. If the school can afford it let them buy refers that are a year old if that is even possible as long as they have 8 or 16 gigs of ram and the students can use them for class but anything over a year old at least in terms of school settings is yucky to me.

I know a family member who is at their office still using windows I think it's 7. They refuse to upgrade the their machines are 10 years old, but what would you expect from most people who don't really care about this stuff.

 

If I could afford it I would replace my computers every year or 2 even though they still work. It's staying up to date with technology and going with the best if you can, at least to me.

 

On 11 Jan 2019, at 12:34, Brian Vogel wrote:

Sarah,

            You really seem to be spinning out over these last several posts.   This really is not about you, or your needs or wants, but trying to offer advice regarding how best to make buying decisions related to computers in general.

             It's not that your needs are wrong, but they're utterly irrelevant to what I've seen as the broader point of this whole topic.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

Thank you for taking the time to answer/spur the discussion.

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 6:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

I'll let those who know more discuss the question for the most part.  It would seem to me that the questions are which if either is more accessible in terms of programs, and the differences between the two methods and what they mean.  An image is an exact sector for sector copy of the hard drive.  I believe it copies everything, including the boot record and it may preserve authorizations for software that a backup may not.  Also, with a backup, if you loose this or that file, you can restore individual files or folders.  With an image, you may not be able to.  I've heard some of these things discussed over the years but I'm stating these things to help spur discussion.  Some of what I say may be wrong ore partly wrong.

 

Perhaps the best thing to do is to back things up like documents and music, and to also have a disk image for restoring the system including the boot record and authorizations that require it.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 4:29 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

Thanks.  Would you suggest using backup?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 4:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

I don't make disk images so I'll let others answer the question. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 2:09 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

I understand and really appreciate your concern.  I also installed an earlier version of NVDA with no success.  The stuttering is happening with all included synthesizers and with Eloquent.  I am suspecting it is my Acer laptop as I had to resort to this drastic measure before.

I used the recovery USB and it did take much time.  The laptop is singing again nicely.  I don’t dare to update NVDA to the latest version.  I am using 2017.3. I’ll wait for a while before I update.  Before I go, I have one question, is there an image program you would recommend?  I ask as the “system restore” is not trustworthy.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 2:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

That sounds like a lot of work.   Is there anything important you want to do with the newest NVDA version or anything important you believe will be possible you will want to do in versions that will be upcoming in the next year or two? 

 

In addition, what if you try a different synthesizer.  Which one are you using now? It might make more sense to go back to the version of NVDA you were using until there is a reason or reasons to go through all that work in terms of a meaningful benefit or benefits. 

 

And, in the short term, if enough people report this problem, it will be addressed by the developers.  it may be that there is something about your laptop and some others that will never be known, that causes you to have this problem and it may be corrected by the developers.  So even if you have reasons to want to use the latest update now, it might be better to wait and see how things develop.

 

Gene 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 1:08 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

I have tried your kind suggestions but with no success.  I am resorting to the hammer solution wiping my Acer laptop clean and rebuilding it from scratch.  My other HP laptop is working fine with NVDA 2017.3 and Win10 1803 version.  I honestly do not dare updating NVDA and Win10 at this time.

Many thanks.

Blessings

Pascal 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adriani Botez
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 2:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

I have updated but I didn’t notice any audio problem.

 

After restarting your PC, try to restart NVDA with allo add-ons disabled. Does the issue still occur?

 

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Joseph Lee
Gesendet: Montag, 14. Januar 2019 19:58
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

Hi,

I’d like to find out if others who have updated to 2018.4.1 are also experiencing audio issues after doing so (I’m running an equivalent alpha build and not experiencing it, but I’ll leave open all sorts of possibilities).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 10:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

I consider myself very lucky as I didn't get any update to nvda this morning. If it does show up, I'll cancel out of it until this problem is fixed.

 

Roger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 1/14/2019 12:06 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Yes, I reported the same after updating to NVDA and Windows latest versions.  My other laptop which is still using NVDA 2017.3 and Win10 version 1803 has no problems.  I am about to use the recovery USB on my Acer laptop as the stuttering starts after every 2 or 3 min of use.  It is very annoying.  I tried everything to no use!

Blessings

Pascal    

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 12:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

Hello,

just updated to the latest NVDA update and whenever i'm browsing my computer, working online and such, I occasionally get this weird audio stuttering. All realtek drivers are up to date. Prior to updating I did not experience any issues. Has anyone else experienced? Thanks.

armando

 


Re: VIDEO GAMING

JM Casey
 

Some of these accessible games that are more like “video games” as we know it don’t speak so much, but they have things like directional sound and other audio clues to tell you, for instance, where you should be aiming your weapon, when there’s an item to “pick up”, etc.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback
Sent: January 14, 2019 5:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda]VIDEO GAMING
Importance: High

 

I don't know about mainstream games, but there are quite a number of games designed for us, which are either self voicing, or that should work with NVDA.

there is a site that lists most if not all of them, but I can't remember what it is.

there is also the blind gamers e-mail list at:

where you should be able to get info on just about any accessible game out there.

have you given any thought to what types of games you would be interested in?

 

Simon

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 9:52 PM

Subject: [nvda]VIDEO GAMING

 

Hi,

 

Earlier today, I saw a message from someone saying they were a video gamer and am interested to know what video games are accessible via NVDA to a totally blind user, please, as this may be an avenue I’d like to explore.

 

Thanks for any info.

 

Richard Bartholomew

 


Re: VIDEO GAMING

Richard Bartholomew
 

Thanks very much, I’ll take a look at that tomorrow.



Regards
Richard Bartholomew


On 14 Jan 2019, at 22:50, Adel Spence <adelspence12@...> wrote:

I think site you are looking for is:
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda]VIDEO GAMING

Thanks for the pointers and the offer of further information.  Over the years, I’ve dabbled with adventure and strategy games but what intrigues me is the idea of video gaming – okay, maybe I should say here that my interpretation of video gaming is the narrow one of “shoot ‘em up” style of game which I’m having trouble picturing with speech only!  Also, I’m assuming that this is the type of games referred to earlier as it’s generally the video aspect of games which is memory and processor intensive.

 

I’ll definitely go and look for that accessible gaming site, though, to see what’s available.

 

Thanks again.

 

Richard Bartholomew

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback
Sent: 14 January 2019 22:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda]VIDEO GAMING
Importance: High

 

I don't know about mainstream games, but there are quite a number of games designed for us, which are either self voicing, or that should work with NVDA.

there is a site that lists most if not all of them, but I can't remember what it is.

there is also the blind gamers e-mail list at:

where you should be able to get info on just about any accessible game out there.

have you given any thought to what types of games you would be interested in?

 

Simon

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 9:52 PM

Subject: [nvda]VIDEO GAMING

 

Hi,

 

Earlier today, I saw a message from someone saying they were a video gamer and am interested to know what video games are accessible via NVDA to a totally blind user, please, as this may be an avenue I’d like to explore.

 

Thanks for any info.

 

Richard Bartholomew

 


Re: Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

Gene
 

I'll let those who know more discuss the question for the most part.  It would seem to me that the questions are which if either is more accessible in terms of programs, and the differences between the two methods and what they mean.  An image is an exact sector for sector copy of the hard drive.  I believe it copies everything, including the boot record and it may preserve authorizations for software that a backup may not.  Also, with a backup, if you loose this or that file, you can restore individual files or folders.  With an image, you may not be able to.  I've heard some of these things discussed over the years but I'm stating these things to help spur discussion.  Some of what I say may be wrong ore partly wrong.
 
Perhaps the best thing to do is to back things up like documents and music, and to also have a disk image for restoring the system including the boot record and authorizations that require it.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

Thanks.  Would you suggest using backup?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 4:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

I don't make disk images so I'll let others answer the question. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 2:09 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

I understand and really appreciate your concern.  I also installed an earlier version of NVDA with no success.  The stuttering is happening with all included synthesizers and with Eloquent.  I am suspecting it is my Acer laptop as I had to resort to this drastic measure before.

I used the recovery USB and it did take much time.  The laptop is singing again nicely.  I don’t dare to update NVDA to the latest version.  I am using 2017.3. I’ll wait for a while before I update.  Before I go, I have one question, is there an image program you would recommend?  I ask as the “system restore” is not trustworthy.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 2:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

That sounds like a lot of work.   Is there anything important you want to do with the newest NVDA version or anything important you believe will be possible you will want to do in versions that will be upcoming in the next year or two? 

 

In addition, what if you try a different synthesizer.  Which one are you using now? It might make more sense to go back to the version of NVDA you were using until there is a reason or reasons to go through all that work in terms of a meaningful benefit or benefits. 

 

And, in the short term, if enough people report this problem, it will be addressed by the developers.  it may be that there is something about your laptop and some others that will never be known, that causes you to have this problem and it may be corrected by the developers.  So even if you have reasons to want to use the latest update now, it might be better to wait and see how things develop.

 

Gene 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 1:08 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

I have tried your kind suggestions but with no success.  I am resorting to the hammer solution wiping my Acer laptop clean and rebuilding it from scratch.  My other HP laptop is working fine with NVDA 2017.3 and Win10 1803 version.  I honestly do not dare updating NVDA and Win10 at this time.

Many thanks.

Blessings

Pascal 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adriani Botez
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 2:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

I have updated but I didn’t notice any audio problem.

 

After restarting your PC, try to restart NVDA with allo add-ons disabled. Does the issue still occur?

 

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Joseph Lee
Gesendet: Montag, 14. Januar 2019 19:58
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

Hi,

I’d like to find out if others who have updated to 2018.4.1 are also experiencing audio issues after doing so (I’m running an equivalent alpha build and not experiencing it, but I’ll leave open all sorts of possibilities).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 10:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

I consider myself very lucky as I didn't get any update to nvda this morning. If it does show up, I'll cancel out of it until this problem is fixed.

 

Roger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 1/14/2019 12:06 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Yes, I reported the same after updating to NVDA and Windows latest versions.  My other laptop which is still using NVDA 2017.3 and Win10 version 1803 has no problems.  I am about to use the recovery USB on my Acer laptop as the stuttering starts after every 2 or 3 min of use.  It is very annoying.  I tried everything to no use!

Blessings

Pascal    

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 12:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

Hello,

just updated to the latest NVDA update and whenever i'm browsing my computer, working online and such, I occasionally get this weird audio stuttering. All realtek drivers are up to date. Prior to updating I did not experience any issues. Has anyone else experienced? Thanks.

armando

 


Re: VIDEO GAMING

Adel Spence
 

I think site you are looking for is:
www.audiogames.net

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda]VIDEO GAMING

Thanks for the pointers and the offer of further information.  Over the years, I’ve dabbled with adventure and strategy games but what intrigues me is the idea of video gaming – okay, maybe I should say here that my interpretation of video gaming is the narrow one of “shoot ‘em up” style of game which I’m having trouble picturing with speech only!  Also, I’m assuming that this is the type of games referred to earlier as it’s generally the video aspect of games which is memory and processor intensive.

 

I’ll definitely go and look for that accessible gaming site, though, to see what’s available.

 

Thanks again.

 

Richard Bartholomew

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback
Sent: 14 January 2019 22:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda]VIDEO GAMING
Importance: High

 

I don't know about mainstream games, but there are quite a number of games designed for us, which are either self voicing, or that should work with NVDA.

there is a site that lists most if not all of them, but I can't remember what it is.

there is also the blind gamers e-mail list at:

where you should be able to get info on just about any accessible game out there.

have you given any thought to what types of games you would be interested in?

 

Simon

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 9:52 PM

Subject: [nvda]VIDEO GAMING

 

Hi,

 

Earlier today, I saw a message from someone saying they were a video gamer and am interested to know what video games are accessible via NVDA to a totally blind user, please, as this may be an avenue I’d like to explore.

 

Thanks for any info.

 

Richard Bartholomew

 


Re: VIDEO GAMING

Richard Bartholomew
 

Thanks for the pointers and the offer of further information.  Over the years, I’ve dabbled with adventure and strategy games but what intrigues me is the idea of video gaming – okay, maybe I should say here that my interpretation of video gaming is the narrow one of “shoot ‘em up” style of game which I’m having trouble picturing with speech only!  Also, I’m assuming that this is the type of games referred to earlier as it’s generally the video aspect of games which is memory and processor intensive.

 

I’ll definitely go and look for that accessible gaming site, though, to see what’s available.

 

Thanks again.

 

Richard Bartholomew

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback
Sent: 14 January 2019 22:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda]VIDEO GAMING
Importance: High

 

I don't know about mainstream games, but there are quite a number of games designed for us, which are either self voicing, or that should work with NVDA.

there is a site that lists most if not all of them, but I can't remember what it is.

there is also the blind gamers e-mail list at:

where you should be able to get info on just about any accessible game out there.

have you given any thought to what types of games you would be interested in?

 

Simon

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 9:52 PM

Subject: [nvda]VIDEO GAMING

 

Hi,

 

Earlier today, I saw a message from someone saying they were a video gamer and am interested to know what video games are accessible via NVDA to a totally blind user, please, as this may be an avenue I’d like to explore.

 

Thanks for any info.

 

Richard Bartholomew

 


Re: Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

Restarts of NVDA with add-ons and with add-ons disabled.

P.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

That's good but do you mean restarts of Windows or of NVDA? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 1:30 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

A restart, well more liek two forced restarts did it for me and yes, I do have latest audio drivers. It's fixed, who knows for how long.

Armando

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 11:28 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

That sounds like a lot of work.   Is there anything important you want to do with the newest NVDA version or anything important you believe will be possible you will want to do in versions that will be upcoming in the next year or two? 

 

In addition, what if you try a different synthesizer.  Which one are you using now? It might make more sense to go back to the version of NVDA you were using until there is a reason or reasons to go through all that work in terms of a meaningful benefit or benefits. 

 

And, in the short term, if enough people report this problem, it will be addressed by the developers.  it may be that there is something about your laptop and some others that will never be known, that causes you to have this problem and it may be corrected by the developers.  So even if you have reasons to want to use the latest update now, it might be better to wait and see how things develop.

 

Gene 

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Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 1:08 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

I have tried your kind suggestions but with no success.  I am resorting to the hammer solution wiping my Acer laptop clean and rebuilding it from scratch.  My other HP laptop is working fine with NVDA 2017.3 and Win10 1803 version.  I honestly do not dare updating NVDA and Win10 at this time.

Many thanks.

Blessings

Pascal 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adriani Botez
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 2:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

I have updated but I didn’t notice any audio problem.

 

After restarting your PC, try to restart NVDA with allo add-ons disabled. Does the issue still occur?

 

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Joseph Lee
Gesendet: Montag, 14. Januar 2019 19:58
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

Hi,

I’d like to find out if others who have updated to 2018.4.1 are also experiencing audio issues after doing so (I’m running an equivalent alpha build and not experiencing it, but I’ll leave open all sorts of possibilities).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 10:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

I consider myself very lucky as I didn't get any update to nvda this morning. If it does show up, I'll cancel out of it until this problem is fixed.

 

Roger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 1/14/2019 12:06 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Yes, I reported the same after updating to NVDA and Windows latest versions.  My other laptop which is still using NVDA 2017.3 and Win10 version 1803 has no problems.  I am about to use the recovery USB on my Acer laptop as the stuttering starts after every 2 or 3 min of use.  It is very annoying.  I tried everything to no use!

Blessings

Pascal    

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 12:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird audio stuttering with latestNVDA Update

 

Hello,

just updated to the latest NVDA update and whenever i'm browsing my computer, working online and such, I occasionally get this weird audio stuttering. All realtek drivers are up to date. Prior to updating I did not experience any issues. Has anyone else experienced? Thanks.

armando