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FW: [win10] NVDA?

 

Hi,
I figured it'd be best to forward the below question to this list in hopes
that we can get others to assist this person (I know some folks are members
of both lists, so feel free to comment on one of them).
Cheers,
Joseph

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Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 9:50 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] NVDA?

Where would I get the latest download for NVDA? And is everything in 1
file, or do I have to download scripts or something? Thanks.


Re: website beeping

Giles Turnbull
 

Hi Chris and others,

I hadn't noticed that progress bar and yes, if I turn progress bar notification off it stops!

No idea what the purpose of the progress bar is!

Thanks,

Giles


Re: website beeping

 

As other have pointed, at least for me it's confirmed the cause of this happening is the progress bar setting.
Just to proof it, do as follows:
Open the site with your current setting regarding progress bar.
Up and down arrow on it for a time.
Do NVDA+U to set it to a different status.
Repeat the up/down arrow process.
If it behaves differently than previously, then it's confirmed.

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 13/01/2019 11:21, Giles Turnbull escreveu:

Hi all,

I'm curious whether anybody else has noticed that some websites, admitedly relatively few, make a sort of beeping sound when cursoring down through the page? It doesn't happen when using say all.

This website is doing it when I visited it this morning:
https://www.movebubble.com/london/area-guides/2017/09/stratford-london-guide

It's kind of like the beeping to indicate percentage progress, but it is apparently not associated with any media loading, just the act of using the cursor keys to navigate up or down the webpage.

Thanks for any insight :)

Giles


Re: website beeping

Gene
 

That probably explains it.  I have progress bar updates set to off.  If I very rarely want them on, I turn them on. 
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] website beeping

Probably because of the progress bar on the page just above the first heading

 

 

Don’t ask me what it is for or how to get rid of it

 

But I suppose you could turn off beeps in nvda if its that annoying

From: Giles Turnbull
Sent: 13 January 2019 13:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] website beeping

 

Hi all,

I'm curious whether anybody else has noticed that some websites, admitedly relatively few, make a sort of beeping sound when cursoring down through the page? It doesn't happen when using say all.

This website is doing it when I visited it this morning:
https://www.movebubble.com/london/area-guides/2017/09/stratford-london-guide

It's kind of like the beeping to indicate percentage progress, but it is apparently not associated with any media loading, just the act of using the cursor keys to navigate up or down the webpage.

Thanks for any insight :)

Giles

 


Re: website beeping

Gene
 

With which browser?  there are no beeps using Chrome, at least the older version I'm using.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 7:21 AM
Subject: [nvda] website beeping

Hi all,

I'm curious whether anybody else has noticed that some websites, admitedly relatively few, make a sort of beeping sound when cursoring down through the page? It doesn't happen when using say all.

This website is doing it when I visited it this morning:
https://www.movebubble.com/london/area-guides/2017/09/stratford-london-guide

It's kind of like the beeping to indicate percentage progress, but it is apparently not associated with any media loading, just the act of using the cursor keys to navigate up or down the webpage.

Thanks for any insight :)

Giles


Re: website beeping

Chris
 

Probably because of the progress bar on the page just above the first heading

 

 

Don’t ask me what it is for or how to get rid of it

 

But I suppose you could turn off beeps in nvda if its that annoying

From: Giles Turnbull
Sent: 13 January 2019 13:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] website beeping

 

Hi all,

I'm curious whether anybody else has noticed that some websites, admitedly relatively few, make a sort of beeping sound when cursoring down through the page? It doesn't happen when using say all.

This website is doing it when I visited it this morning:
https://www.movebubble.com/london/area-guides/2017/09/stratford-london-guide

It's kind of like the beeping to indicate percentage progress, but it is apparently not associated with any media loading, just the act of using the cursor keys to navigate up or down the webpage.

Thanks for any insight :)

Giles

 


website beeping

Giles Turnbull
 

Hi all,

I'm curious whether anybody else has noticed that some websites, admitedly relatively few, make a sort of beeping sound when cursoring down through the page? It doesn't happen when using say all.

This website is doing it when I visited it this morning:
https://www.movebubble.com/london/area-guides/2017/09/stratford-london-guide

It's kind of like the beeping to indicate percentage progress, but it is apparently not associated with any media loading, just the act of using the cursor keys to navigate up or down the webpage.

Thanks for any insight :)

Giles


Re: RES: [nvda] can't select radio buttons in a webpage

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes and as somebody else said. There really was no need for this to be made a concert pianist exercise if the page maker had an ouch of common sense.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2019 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: RES: [nvda] can't select radio buttons in a webpage


Don't go into forms mode.
Move to whatever radio button you want to select in browse mode.
On the numpad, issue the command numpad insert, numpad slash.
That is, hold numpad insert and while doing so, press the slash key. That is the key to the right of the numlock.
Now release both keys.
Now press slash by itself again.
If you check the state of the radio button now, it will be checked.
If you don't have a numpad and are using the laptop keyboard option, someone else can give you the commands.

The first command is to route the mouse to where you are.
The second command left clicks the mouse.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Alexandre Alves Toco
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2019 1:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: RES: [nvda] can't select radio buttons in a webpage


Very strange. I just reboot and repeat the tests without success.

First I went to the radio button with f and press spacebar. It didn’t select.

Second I turned forms mode on with capslock + spacebar and tried to select the radio button without success too.

p.s. I know that forms mode is a jaws’s terminology. But I can’t remember how it is called in nvda... 😂



Enviado do Email para Windows 10



De: Gene
Enviado:sábado, 12 de janeiro de 2019 16:48
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] can't select radio buttons in a webpage



Do you know how to route and click the mouse? You should always try that if other methods don't work. it works here.



I also tested the page with firefox and the radio buttons work correctly.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Alexandre Alves Toco

Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2019 12:38 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] can't select radio buttons in a webpage



Hi friends!

Although the following page is in portuguese, if you press f you will be placed in the first group of radio buttons.

I was trying to select the button whose labe is investimentos. But I couldn’t.

I made this test in schrome.

https://internetbanking.ourinvest.com.br/Cadastro/DadosIniciais





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Re: I'm so grateful for Nvda

 

hello.
i love nvda very much.
i believe that becoming familiar with nvda is one of the greatest
bounties and favors of God for me.
i always appreciate God for his grace and also developers of nvda who
made this blessing possible for me.
i always pray for them in my five times obligatory daily prayers and
request divine infinite mercy and blessings for them.
i use nvda every day, i cant immagine one
day without nvda and i requested God to help me use nvda in all of my
lifetime and by his grace, i wish to use nvda forever even if one day,
i become sighted!
i really love iven3, its voice is very sweete, lovely, kind and
friendly and i love it very much and enjoy if i read hundreds of
pages.

On 1/9/19, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
I do have a demo version of Jaws on this computer. Yes, it is a good idea to
have at least two screen readers in case one crashes.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte
Single
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 9:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm so grateful for Nvda



As many people on this and other lists point out, it is a good idea to have
a second screen reader on your machine. This is where the 40 minute demo
of jaws is sometimes helpful.

Now there is 1 positive thing I can say about the jaws business.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: January-09-19 10:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm so grateful for Nvda



Hi.

I used to use Jaws. Ever since I was little. But then in 2017 I switched to
NVDA when I purchased a new laptop. I am using NVDA full time now as well,
not looking to buy a Jaws sma anytime soon.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 11:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm so grateful for Nvda



I too am very grateful for NVDA. I used to use a different screen reader but
I couldn't afford the upgrades anymore so I switched to NVDA full-time in
2011. I haven't looked back.







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[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sociohack AC
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 6:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm so grateful for Nvda



Same here. I love it's free and so flexible. I can install it on my home PC
and my work PC, without any inconvenience to my employer. The world of
computers and internet stays wholistic and in place, thanks to NVDA.
--
Regards,
Sociohack






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Re: NVDA say all command not working.

 

hi eric and all.
when for the first time i wanted to migrate to nvda on 2014, i faced
one issue that prevented me for the first time to leave jaws and
migrate to nvda.
the problem was not supporting SayAll.
when i wanted to read one book or article or even nvda users guide,
after ten minutes, nvda said unknown and stopped reading.
i asked someone about my issue and not supporting SayAll for entire
document and he told me that i should disable screen saver in control
panel.
i did it and it resolved my issue that now, i can read books with
hundreds of pages with firefox or long documents in notepad++ or
wordpad.
i am sure that this solution works in all programs which support
screen readers and SayAll.

now, i love nvda very much and use it every day, i cant immagine one
day without nvda and i requested God to help me use nvda in all of my
lifetime and by his grace, i wish to use nvda forever even if one day,
i become sighted!
i really love iven3, its voice is very sweete, lovely, kind and
friendly and i love it very much and enjoy if i read hundreds of
pages.

On 1/12/19, Eric Hofman <Eric.Hofman@visionaustralia.org> wrote:
Hi Gene
Having Laptop keyboard layout selected does not preclude the use of Insert
key as the NVDA modifier key it Just enables the use of the Caps lock key as
a Modifier Key and re-assigns the key commands that are assigned to the key
comprised in the Num pad as most laptops don't have a numpad.

In NVDA and also JAWS if you select laptop keyboard layout even with a
desktop keyboard you can then use either Insert or Caps lock as your
modifier key and either the desktop or Laptop key commands, which can
actually be quite helpful with some of the more acrobatic keyboard commans
(where smaller hands or where dexterity is an issue.)

Although the laptop keyboard does have a numpad and an insert key, I choose
to leave set to laptop in consultation with the user.

I thank you for your advise and input into this issue.

Kind regards
Eric

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, 13 January 2019 10:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

If a numpad is present, why did you change the setting to laptop? Laptop
keyboard layout doesn't mean you have to use it with a desktop. It is
intended to be used with any keyboard with a numpad or if you have a USB
numpad connected to a computer that doesn't have a numpad. The laptop
keyboard layout is intended to be used on computers without numpads and
those are usually laptops, which is why it is named laptop layout.

Set the keyboard back to desktop layout. If you don't, the command the
person wants to use won't work or leave at desktop, if it is already there.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Hofman<mailto:Eric.Hofman@visionaustralia.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2019 5:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

Hi Joseph and list
On Friday I was able to re-contact my client to continue troubleshooting
this issue. At that time I was able to use team viewer to remote into his
system. During this contact and access to his system I was able to;
1 Establish that he is in fact using a laptop keyboard that has a Numpad.
2 NVDA setting show that desktop keyboard layout was selected now altered
to reflect Laptop keyboard.
3 He has no add-ons installed according to the add-on manager in NVDA
4 He is using Windows One core synth with Microsoft David voice.
5 Restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled does indeed resolve the problem.
6 Resetting to NVDA to factory defaults had no impact in the issue when
running NVDA normally

At this point the remote connection with team viewer became very laggy and
un-usable and my client had to attend to other matters. So we had to abandon
and will continue on Monday or Tuesday at which time I endeavour to verify
NVDA and Windows version and build details.

I thanks everyone for their assistance an contribution to this issue thus
far offer my thanks and appreciation.

Kind regards
Eric Hofman




From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2019 12:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

Hi Eric,
Is your client using any NVDA add-ons at the moment? If yes, it might be
possible that a recent add-on update may have contributed to this problem.
If it turns out add-ons might be to blame, have your client follow Gene's
advice of restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled and see if that makes a
difference.
Cheers,
Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Eric Hofman
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 6:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

Hi Joseph
Thank you so much the warm welcome and for taking the time to assist with
this issue.

* I have confirmed with the client that they were using the "Down arrow
key" as opposed to the NUMPAD "down arrow". Unfortunately I neglected to
state this in my original message, please accept my apologies for that
oversight.
I confirmed they are using a desktop keyboard and believe that their NVDA
config is set to desktop keyboard but I will contact and confirm this and
relay your message.

Thank you again for your time and assistance with this issue.

Kind regards
Eric Hofman



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2019 11:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

Hello Eric,
First, welcome to NVDA users list.
If you don't mind, can you pass on the following message to your client
please:

Hi,
This is Joseph Lee, one of the developers of NVDA screen reader.
I heard from a person you work with that say all command (NVDA+down arrow)
isn't working for you all the way. This might be caused by one or more of
the following:

* Which key you are pressing: many desktop keyboards (and some laptops)
come with two arrow keys: the regular arrow keys, and the set as part of the
Numpad. I'm thinking that you might be pressing the Numpad down arrow key
with NVDA key, which performs a completely different action. Unless
otherwise stated, when NvDA people talk about arrow keys, we usually refer
to regular arrow keys.
* Keyboard layout: NVDA comes with two keyboard layouts to suit the
needs of desktop and laptop keyboard users. I'm thinking that somehow you
may have switched to laptop keyboard layout. To confirm this, press
Control+NVDA+K, then see what the keyboard layout is (the first combo box
from keyboard settings).

Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Eric Hofman
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 3:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

Hi All
I have a client who is using the latest version of NVDA on a Windows 10
Laptop with Office 2016.
The client is reasonably proficient with using NVDA and reports that when
attempting to use the "SAY ALL" ( INSERT+DOWN ARROW ) in word, Outlook,
notepad various other programs, that the command fails to read to the end of
the Page or Document from the currently focused point. The client states it
will usually read to the end of the line, sentence, or paragraph and that
repeating the command will prompt NVDA to continue reading but again not to
the end as expected.

This issue is reported to me as having been occurring for approximately 4 to
6 weeks, So has survived several system reboots. I have ensured via phone
that the client is using the latest version and currently there are no
updates available for the client.

I have been unable to reproduce this issue on a test system or my work
system with the latest version or the previous versions of NVDA. Reset to
factory defaults would be the next obvious step but I would like to know if
this is a known issue or if there is some way of resolving this without a
reset to defaults.

Any advice or assistance is greatly appreciated.

Regards
Eric Hofman



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Re: NVDA say all command not working.

Gene
 

There is no connection between whether the caps lock key can be used as a modifier and which desktop layout is being used.  there is a check box in the keyboard dialog specifically for controling the behavior of the caps lock and just changing the keyboard layout has no effect on that behavior.
 
This all started by discussing the read to end command, NVDA key down arrow.  While you can use the insert in laptop layout, many of the desktop commands for getting NVDA to do things, in this specific case, read to end won't work.  The laptop command may be used.  The laptop layout changes commands that require the numpad keys other than insert to be used.  Either insert can be used as an NVDA command in either layout.  These are Windows keys.  Unless otherwise specified in a program. numpad insert always works as an insert key unless, of course, the numlock key is on.
 
Also, a lot of laptops do have numpads and those that don't can be used with a numpad insert key.  I consider it much more efficient and logical to learn the desktop layout, a much better organized and much more logically consistent layout and use a numpad, either built-in or
numpad, when using a laptop computer.  Gene
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Hofman
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2019 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

Hi Gene

Having Laptop keyboard layout selected does not preclude the use of Insert key as the NVDA modifier key it Just enables the use of the Caps lock key as a Modifier Key and re-assigns the key commands that are assigned to the key comprised in the Num pad as most laptops don’t have a numpad.

 

In NVDA and also JAWS if you select laptop keyboard layout even with a desktop keyboard you can then use either Insert or Caps lock as your modifier key and either the desktop or Laptop key commands, which can actually be quite helpful with some of the more acrobatic keyboard commans (where smaller hands or where dexterity is an issue.)

 

Although the laptop keyboard does have a numpad and an insert key, I choose to leave set to laptop in consultation with the user.

 

I thank you for your advise and input into this issue.

 

Kind regards

Eric  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, 13 January 2019 10:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

If a numpad is present, why did you change the setting to laptop?  Laptop keyboard layout doesn't mean you have to use it with a desktop.  It is intended to be used with any keyboard with a numpad or if you have a USB numpad connected to a computer that doesn't have a numpad.  The laptop keyboard layout is intended to be used on computers without numpads and those are usually laptops, which is why it is named laptop layout.

 

Set the keyboard back to desktop layout.  If you don't, the command the person wants to use won't work or leave at desktop, if it is already there. 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Eric Hofman

Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2019 5:30 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hi Joseph and list

On Friday I was able to re-contact my client to continue troubleshooting this issue. At that time I was able to use team viewer to remote into his system. During this contact and access to his system I was able to;

1 Establish that he is in fact using a laptop keyboard that has a Numpad.

2 NVDA setting show that desktop keyboard layout was selected now altered  to reflect Laptop keyboard.

3 He has no add-ons installed according to the add-on manager in NVDA

4 He is using Windows One core synth with Microsoft David voice.

5 Restarting NVDA with add-ons  disabled does indeed resolve the problem.

6 Resetting to NVDA to factory defaults had no impact in the issue when running NVDA normally

 

At this point the remote connection with team viewer became very laggy and un-usable and my client had to attend to other matters. So we had to abandon and will continue on Monday or Tuesday at which time I endeavour to verify NVDA and Windows version and build details.

 

I thanks everyone for their assistance an contribution to this issue thus far offer my thanks and appreciation.

 

Kind regards

Eric Hofman

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2019 12:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hi Eric,

Is your client using any NVDA add-ons at the moment? If yes, it might be possible that a recent add-on update may have contributed to this problem. If it turns out add-ons might be to blame, have your client follow Gene’s advice of restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled and see if that makes a difference.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eric Hofman
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 6:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hi Joseph

Thank you so much the warm welcome and for taking the time to assist with this issue.

  • I have confirmed with the client that they were using the “Down arrow key” as opposed to the NUMPAD “down arrow”. Unfortunately I neglected to state this in my original message, please accept my apologies for that oversight.

I confirmed they are using a desktop keyboard and believe that their NVDA config is set to desktop keyboard but I will contact and confirm this and relay your message.

 

Thank you again for your time and assistance with this issue.

 

Kind regards

Eric Hofman

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2019 11:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hello Eric,

First, welcome to NVDA users list.

If you don’t mind, can you pass on the following message to your client please:

 

Hi,

This is Joseph Lee, one of the developers of NVDA screen reader.

I heard from a person you work with that say all command (NVDA+down arrow) isn’t working for you all the way. This might be caused by one or more of the following:

  • Which key you are pressing: many desktop keyboards (and some laptops) come with two arrow keys: the regular arrow keys, and the set as part of the Numpad. I’m thinking that you might be pressing the Numpad down arrow key with NVDA key, which performs a completely different action. Unless otherwise stated, when NvDA people talk about arrow keys, we usually refer to regular arrow keys.
  • Keyboard layout: NVDA comes with two keyboard layouts to suit the needs of desktop and laptop keyboard users. I’m thinking that somehow you may have switched to laptop keyboard layout. To confirm this, press Control+NVDA+K, then see what the keyboard layout is (the first combo box from keyboard settings).

 

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eric Hofman
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 3:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hi All

I have a client who is using the latest version of NVDA on a Windows 10 Laptop with Office 2016.

The client is reasonably proficient with using NVDA and reports that when attempting to use the “SAY ALL” ( INSERT+DOWN ARROW ) in word, Outlook, notepad various other programs, that the command fails to read to the end of the Page or Document from the currently focused point. The client states it will usually read to the end of the line, sentence, or paragraph and that repeating the command will prompt NVDA to continue reading but again not to the end as expected.

 

This issue is reported to me as having been occurring for approximately 4 to 6 weeks, So has survived several system reboots. I have ensured via phone that the client is using the latest version and currently there are no updates available for the client.

 

I have been unable to reproduce this issue on a test system or my work system with the latest version or the previous versions of NVDA. Reset to factory defaults would be the next obvious step but I would like to know if this is a known issue or if there is some way of resolving this without a reset to defaults.

 

Any advice or assistance is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards

Eric Hofman

 

 

 

Eric Hofman
AT Helpdesk Support Officer
Commercial & National Services
Vision Australia
373 Old Cleveland Road Coorparoo QLD 4151

T: +617 3727 2230 (I: 701230)
E: Eric.Hofman@...
www.visionaustralia.org

 

The history, culture, diversity and value of all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples are recognised, acknowledged and respected.

 


Re: NVDA say all command not working.

Eric Hofman
 

Hi Gene

Having Laptop keyboard layout selected does not preclude the use of Insert key as the NVDA modifier key it Just enables the use of the Caps lock key as a Modifier Key and re-assigns the key commands that are assigned to the key comprised in the Num pad as most laptops don’t have a numpad.

 

In NVDA and also JAWS if you select laptop keyboard layout even with a desktop keyboard you can then use either Insert or Caps lock as your modifier key and either the desktop or Laptop key commands, which can actually be quite helpful with some of the more acrobatic keyboard commans (where smaller hands or where dexterity is an issue.)

 

Although the laptop keyboard does have a numpad and an insert key, I choose to leave set to laptop in consultation with the user.

 

I thank you for your advise and input into this issue.

 

Kind regards

Eric  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, 13 January 2019 10:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

If a numpad is present, why did you change the setting to laptop?  Laptop keyboard layout doesn't mean you have to use it with a desktop.  It is intended to be used with any keyboard with a numpad or if you have a USB numpad connected to a computer that doesn't have a numpad.  The laptop keyboard layout is intended to be used on computers without numpads and those are usually laptops, which is why it is named laptop layout.

 

Set the keyboard back to desktop layout.  If you don't, the command the person wants to use won't work or leave at desktop, if it is already there. 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2019 5:30 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hi Joseph and list

On Friday I was able to re-contact my client to continue troubleshooting this issue. At that time I was able to use team viewer to remote into his system. During this contact and access to his system I was able to;

1 Establish that he is in fact using a laptop keyboard that has a Numpad.

2 NVDA setting show that desktop keyboard layout was selected now altered  to reflect Laptop keyboard.

3 He has no add-ons installed according to the add-on manager in NVDA

4 He is using Windows One core synth with Microsoft David voice.

5 Restarting NVDA with add-ons  disabled does indeed resolve the problem.

6 Resetting to NVDA to factory defaults had no impact in the issue when running NVDA normally

 

At this point the remote connection with team viewer became very laggy and un-usable and my client had to attend to other matters. So we had to abandon and will continue on Monday or Tuesday at which time I endeavour to verify NVDA and Windows version and build details.

 

I thanks everyone for their assistance an contribution to this issue thus far offer my thanks and appreciation.

 

Kind regards

Eric Hofman

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2019 12:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hi Eric,

Is your client using any NVDA add-ons at the moment? If yes, it might be possible that a recent add-on update may have contributed to this problem. If it turns out add-ons might be to blame, have your client follow Gene’s advice of restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled and see if that makes a difference.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eric Hofman
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 6:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hi Joseph

Thank you so much the warm welcome and for taking the time to assist with this issue.

  • I have confirmed with the client that they were using the “Down arrow key” as opposed to the NUMPAD “down arrow”. Unfortunately I neglected to state this in my original message, please accept my apologies for that oversight.

I confirmed they are using a desktop keyboard and believe that their NVDA config is set to desktop keyboard but I will contact and confirm this and relay your message.

 

Thank you again for your time and assistance with this issue.

 

Kind regards

Eric Hofman

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2019 11:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hello Eric,

First, welcome to NVDA users list.

If you don’t mind, can you pass on the following message to your client please:

 

Hi,

This is Joseph Lee, one of the developers of NVDA screen reader.

I heard from a person you work with that say all command (NVDA+down arrow) isn’t working for you all the way. This might be caused by one or more of the following:

  • Which key you are pressing: many desktop keyboards (and some laptops) come with two arrow keys: the regular arrow keys, and the set as part of the Numpad. I’m thinking that you might be pressing the Numpad down arrow key with NVDA key, which performs a completely different action. Unless otherwise stated, when NvDA people talk about arrow keys, we usually refer to regular arrow keys.
  • Keyboard layout: NVDA comes with two keyboard layouts to suit the needs of desktop and laptop keyboard users. I’m thinking that somehow you may have switched to laptop keyboard layout. To confirm this, press Control+NVDA+K, then see what the keyboard layout is (the first combo box from keyboard settings).

 

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eric Hofman
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 3:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hi All

I have a client who is using the latest version of NVDA on a Windows 10 Laptop with Office 2016.

The client is reasonably proficient with using NVDA and reports that when attempting to use the “SAY ALL” ( INSERT+DOWN ARROW ) in word, Outlook, notepad various other programs, that the command fails to read to the end of the Page or Document from the currently focused point. The client states it will usually read to the end of the line, sentence, or paragraph and that repeating the command will prompt NVDA to continue reading but again not to the end as expected.

 

This issue is reported to me as having been occurring for approximately 4 to 6 weeks, So has survived several system reboots. I have ensured via phone that the client is using the latest version and currently there are no updates available for the client.

 

I have been unable to reproduce this issue on a test system or my work system with the latest version or the previous versions of NVDA. Reset to factory defaults would be the next obvious step but I would like to know if this is a known issue or if there is some way of resolving this without a reset to defaults.

 

Any advice or assistance is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards

Eric Hofman

 

 

 

Eric Hofman
AT Helpdesk Support Officer
Commercial & National Services
Vision Australia
373 Old Cleveland Road Coorparoo QLD 4151

T: +617 3727 2230 (I: 701230)
E: Eric.Hofman@...
www.visionaustralia.org

 

The history, culture, diversity and value of all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples are recognised, acknowledged and respected.

 


Re: Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications

David Goldfield
 

I'm also running Windows 10 on a machine which I believe was first sold around 2009 running Vista. It was a refurbished machine which I bought in 2013 from Computers for the Blind which, when I purchased it, was running Windows 7. I've since upgraded it to Windows 10 and, so far, its performance, while not stellar, is acceptable and runs Windows 10 very nicely.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 1/12/2019 4:49 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Sarah,

         Although recently there's been a rather tectonic shift with regard to the relationship between Windows 10 and "old" versus "new" hardware, even now there's no hard and fast drop dead date with regard to updates, so long as the machine can still get them and meets the minimum requirements.   I've got a machine from the Vista era that was running Windows 10, and the only reason I stopped is that, for some odd reason, there was absolutely no compatible mouse pad driver to be found, and believe me I looked at the time.   I've got another that's a now at least 10 year old desktop machine that's happily sailing along with Windows 10.

         I fully expect that support for Windows 10 will be dropped from machines that run conventional BIOS as opposed to UEFI.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications

 

Well I know 4th -6th gen computers are still sold about the place and are still acceptable.

I doubt all of those will just drop.

At least none of thats going to happen while win7 and win8 and some of the older server versions still have lifecycles.

Even when those drop, 32 bit processers still exist not the latest but still.

About the time 32 bit win10 drops we may see the end to all bios units.

However not everyone will have the latest unit.



On 13/01/2019 10:49 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Sarah,

         Although recently there's been a rather tectonic shift with regard to the relationship between Windows 10 and "old" versus "new" hardware, even now there's no hard and fast drop dead date with regard to updates, so long as the machine can still get them and meets the minimum requirements.   I've got a machine from the Vista era that was running Windows 10, and the only reason I stopped is that, for some odd reason, there was absolutely no compatible mouse pad driver to be found, and believe me I looked at the time.   I've got another that's a now at least 10 year old desktop machine that's happily sailing along with Windows 10.

         I fully expect that support for Windows 10 will be dropped from machines that run conventional BIOS as opposed to UEFI.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: NVDA say all command not working.

Gene
 

If a numpad is present, why did you change the setting to laptop?  Laptop keyboard layout doesn't mean you have to use it with a desktop.  It is intended to be used with any keyboard with a numpad or if you have a USB numpad connected to a computer that doesn't have a numpad.  The laptop keyboard layout is intended to be used on computers without numpads and those are usually laptops, which is why it is named laptop layout.
 
Set the keyboard back to desktop layout.  If you don't, the command the person wants to use won't work or leave at desktop, if it is already there. 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2019 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

Hi Joseph and list

On Friday I was able to re-contact my client to continue troubleshooting this issue. At that time I was able to use team viewer to remote into his system. During this contact and access to his system I was able to;

1 Establish that he is in fact using a laptop keyboard that has a Numpad.

2 NVDA setting show that desktop keyboard layout was selected now altered  to reflect Laptop keyboard.

3 He has no add-ons installed according to the add-on manager in NVDA

4 He is using Windows One core synth with Microsoft David voice.

5 Restarting NVDA with add-ons  disabled does indeed resolve the problem.

6 Resetting to NVDA to factory defaults had no impact in the issue when running NVDA normally

 

At this point the remote connection with team viewer became very laggy and un-usable and my client had to attend to other matters. So we had to abandon and will continue on Monday or Tuesday at which time I endeavour to verify NVDA and Windows version and build details.

 

I thanks everyone for their assistance an contribution to this issue thus far offer my thanks and appreciation.

 

Kind regards

Eric Hofman

 

 



 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2019 12:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hi Eric,

Is your client using any NVDA add-ons at the moment? If yes, it might be possible that a recent add-on update may have contributed to this problem. If it turns out add-ons might be to blame, have your client follow Gene’s advice of restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled and see if that makes a difference.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eric Hofman
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 6:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hi Joseph

Thank you so much the warm welcome and for taking the time to assist with this issue.

  • I have confirmed with the client that they were using the “Down arrow key” as opposed to the NUMPAD “down arrow”. Unfortunately I neglected to state this in my original message, please accept my apologies for that oversight.

I confirmed they are using a desktop keyboard and believe that their NVDA config is set to desktop keyboard but I will contact and confirm this and relay your message.

 

Thank you again for your time and assistance with this issue.

 

Kind regards

Eric Hofman

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2019 11:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hello Eric,

First, welcome to NVDA users list.

If you don’t mind, can you pass on the following message to your client please:

 

Hi,

This is Joseph Lee, one of the developers of NVDA screen reader.

I heard from a person you work with that say all command (NVDA+down arrow) isn’t working for you all the way. This might be caused by one or more of the following:

  • Which key you are pressing: many desktop keyboards (and some laptops) come with two arrow keys: the regular arrow keys, and the set as part of the Numpad. I’m thinking that you might be pressing the Numpad down arrow key with NVDA key, which performs a completely different action. Unless otherwise stated, when NvDA people talk about arrow keys, we usually refer to regular arrow keys.
  • Keyboard layout: NVDA comes with two keyboard layouts to suit the needs of desktop and laptop keyboard users. I’m thinking that somehow you may have switched to laptop keyboard layout. To confirm this, press Control+NVDA+K, then see what the keyboard layout is (the first combo box from keyboard settings).

 

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eric Hofman
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 3:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hi All

I have a client who is using the latest version of NVDA on a Windows 10 Laptop with Office 2016.

The client is reasonably proficient with using NVDA and reports that when attempting to use the “SAY ALL” ( INSERT+DOWN ARROW ) in word, Outlook, notepad various other programs, that the command fails to read to the end of the Page or Document from the currently focused point. The client states it will usually read to the end of the line, sentence, or paragraph and that repeating the command will prompt NVDA to continue reading but again not to the end as expected.

 

This issue is reported to me as having been occurring for approximately 4 to 6 weeks, So has survived several system reboots. I have ensured via phone that the client is using the latest version and currently there are no updates available for the client.

 

I have been unable to reproduce this issue on a test system or my work system with the latest version or the previous versions of NVDA. Reset to factory defaults would be the next obvious step but I would like to know if this is a known issue or if there is some way of resolving this without a reset to defaults.

 

Any advice or assistance is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards

Eric Hofman

 

 

 

Eric Hofman
AT Helpdesk Support Officer
Commercial & National Services
Vision Australia
373 Old Cleveland Road Coorparoo QLD 4151

T: +617 3727 2230 (I: 701230)
E: Eric.Hofman@...
www.visionaustralia.org

 

The history, culture, diversity and value of all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples are recognised, acknowledged and respected.

 


Re: NVDA say all command not working.

Eric Hofman
 

Hi Joseph and list

On Friday I was able to re-contact my client to continue troubleshooting this issue. At that time I was able to use team viewer to remote into his system. During this contact and access to his system I was able to;

1 Establish that he is in fact using a laptop keyboard that has a Numpad.

2 NVDA setting show that desktop keyboard layout was selected now altered  to reflect Laptop keyboard.

3 He has no add-ons installed according to the add-on manager in NVDA

4 He is using Windows One core synth with Microsoft David voice.

5 Restarting NVDA with add-ons  disabled does indeed resolve the problem.

6 Resetting to NVDA to factory defaults had no impact in the issue when running NVDA normally

 

At this point the remote connection with team viewer became very laggy and un-usable and my client had to attend to other matters. So we had to abandon and will continue on Monday or Tuesday at which time I endeavour to verify NVDA and Windows version and build details.

 

I thanks everyone for their assistance an contribution to this issue thus far offer my thanks and appreciation.

 

Kind regards

Eric Hofman

 

 



 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2019 12:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hi Eric,

Is your client using any NVDA add-ons at the moment? If yes, it might be possible that a recent add-on update may have contributed to this problem. If it turns out add-ons might be to blame, have your client follow Gene’s advice of restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled and see if that makes a difference.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eric Hofman
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 6:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hi Joseph

Thank you so much the warm welcome and for taking the time to assist with this issue.

  • I have confirmed with the client that they were using the “Down arrow key” as opposed to the NUMPAD “down arrow”. Unfortunately I neglected to state this in my original message, please accept my apologies for that oversight.

I confirmed they are using a desktop keyboard and believe that their NVDA config is set to desktop keyboard but I will contact and confirm this and relay your message.

 

Thank you again for your time and assistance with this issue.

 

Kind regards

Eric Hofman

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2019 11:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hello Eric,

First, welcome to NVDA users list.

If you don’t mind, can you pass on the following message to your client please:

 

Hi,

This is Joseph Lee, one of the developers of NVDA screen reader.

I heard from a person you work with that say all command (NVDA+down arrow) isn’t working for you all the way. This might be caused by one or more of the following:

  • Which key you are pressing: many desktop keyboards (and some laptops) come with two arrow keys: the regular arrow keys, and the set as part of the Numpad. I’m thinking that you might be pressing the Numpad down arrow key with NVDA key, which performs a completely different action. Unless otherwise stated, when NvDA people talk about arrow keys, we usually refer to regular arrow keys.
  • Keyboard layout: NVDA comes with two keyboard layouts to suit the needs of desktop and laptop keyboard users. I’m thinking that somehow you may have switched to laptop keyboard layout. To confirm this, press Control+NVDA+K, then see what the keyboard layout is (the first combo box from keyboard settings).

 

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eric Hofman
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 3:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hi All

I have a client who is using the latest version of NVDA on a Windows 10 Laptop with Office 2016.

The client is reasonably proficient with using NVDA and reports that when attempting to use the “SAY ALL” ( INSERT+DOWN ARROW ) in word, Outlook, notepad various other programs, that the command fails to read to the end of the Page or Document from the currently focused point. The client states it will usually read to the end of the line, sentence, or paragraph and that repeating the command will prompt NVDA to continue reading but again not to the end as expected.

 

This issue is reported to me as having been occurring for approximately 4 to 6 weeks, So has survived several system reboots. I have ensured via phone that the client is using the latest version and currently there are no updates available for the client.

 

I have been unable to reproduce this issue on a test system or my work system with the latest version or the previous versions of NVDA. Reset to factory defaults would be the next obvious step but I would like to know if this is a known issue or if there is some way of resolving this without a reset to defaults.

 

Any advice or assistance is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards

Eric Hofman

 

 

 

Eric Hofman
AT Helpdesk Support Officer
Commercial & National Services
Vision Australia
373 Old Cleveland Road Coorparoo QLD 4151

T: +617 3727 2230 (I: 701230)
E: Eric.Hofman@...
www.visionaustralia.org

 

The history, culture, diversity and value of all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples are recognised, acknowledged and respected.

 


Request for comments for people using StationPlaylist Studio add-on: should NVDA announce microphone status if NVDA restarts while Studio and microphone are in use?

 

Hi all,

 

The following is meant for users of StationPlaylist Studio add-on for NVDA. Any comments about the below proposal should be sent to me privately, via one or more social media channels, or to a dedicated NVDA SPL list (to subscribe to that list, send an email to nvda-spl+subscribe@nvda-spl.groups.io).

 

SPL Studio add-on for NVDA includes a feature to give you periodic reminder about microphone status, activated when you turn on microphone from Studio. For the most part, it works as designed except when it comes time to reset add-on settings to defaults or under some circumstances after microphone is enabled. I’m happy to announce that these issues will be resolved in an upcoming add-on release. These fixes will also become part of a project to let users revert to saved Studio add-on settings when pressing Control+NVDA+R once, or reset add-on settings to defaults if this command is pressed three times quickly (this will show up in March 2019 at the earliest).

 

While resolving microphone status announcement bugs, I realized that some of you may run into the following situation:

 

Suppose you’re broadcasting with Studio and microphone is enabled, and you ask NVDA to give you an audible warning when microphone has been active for a while and/or give you periodic status announcements. Somehow, due to an accident or as requested by add-on update installer, you restart NVDA. If this happens, when you move back to Studio window, NVDA won’t announce microphone status even if you asked NVDA to announce it after a while.

 

To resolve this, I’m thinking about letting the Studio add-on announce microphone status automatically if you restart NvDA while Studio is in use and microphone is enabled. To avoid causing problems with metadata streaming status announcement at startup, I plan to make it a beep (same beep as microphone active alarm), with an optional braille message in consideration for broadcasters using braille displays. My dilemma is where this should be done: while focused on Studio or from anywhere.

 

Questions:

 

  • Is this feature something you might find yourself using?
  • If microphone status should be announced for the above scenario, where do you think NVDA should announce this: while focusing on Studio for the first time or from anywhere?
  • Should this feature be configurable, and if yes, should this be a global setting or a profile specific setting?

 

You can send in your comments in four ways:

 

  1. Writing to me privately. Be sure to include “microphone status at startup” as part of the subject line so I can respond to the correct email.
  2. Twitter: you can either DM (direct message) me or mention me (my handle is @joslee) regarding this proposal.
  3. Facebook: you can directly message me (user name is josephsl).
  4. NVDA SPL list: there exists a dedicated list for broadcasters using Studio add-on. If you want, you can subscribe to it and stay up to date on development happenings about this add-on (subscription address is nvda-spl+subscribe@nvda-spl.groups.io).

 

I’ll accept comments until end of January so I can go over them in February, and hopefully make a decision in March. If this proposal is accepted, this will show up as part of a stable release (not long-term support version) later in 2019 (not long-term or 18.09.x release because it is about to enter bug fix only mode soon).

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications

Sarah k Alawami
 

Interesting, gives me a lot to chew on, that is, if I have any teeth left. Lol!

Take care

On 12 Jan 2019, at 13:49, Brian Vogel wrote:

Sarah,

         Although recently there's been a rather tectonic shift with regard to the relationship between Windows 10 and "old" versus "new" hardware, even now there's no hard and fast drop dead date with regard to updates, so long as the machine can still get them and meets the minimum requirements.   I've got a machine from the Vista era that was running Windows 10, and the only reason I stopped is that, for some odd reason, there was absolutely no compatible mouse pad driver to be found, and believe me I looked at the time.   I've got another that's a now at least 10 year old desktop machine that's happily sailing along with Windows 10.

         I fully expect that support for Windows 10 will be dropped from machines that run conventional BIOS as opposed to UEFI.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications

 

Sarah,

         Although recently there's been a rather tectonic shift with regard to the relationship between Windows 10 and "old" versus "new" hardware, even now there's no hard and fast drop dead date with regard to updates, so long as the machine can still get them and meets the minimum requirements.   I've got a machine from the Vista era that was running Windows 10, and the only reason I stopped is that, for some odd reason, there was absolutely no compatible mouse pad driver to be found, and believe me I looked at the time.   I've got another that's a now at least 10 year old desktop machine that's happily sailing along with Windows 10.

         I fully expect that support for Windows 10 will be dropped from machines that run conventional BIOS as opposed to UEFI.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications

Sarah k Alawami
 

Thanks. I'm sed to the mac where after a certain model, or 6 yers after that model is released no more software updates will be issued to that model. Nice. I'll keep this on my mental desktop.

Take care

On 12 Jan 2019, at 12:49, Brian Vogel wrote:

Sarah,

           Depending on which Windows you're looking to find information about, one, the other, or both of the below will fill the bill:

Windows Lifecycle Fact Sheet

Windows 10 Release Information
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back