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WinTenApps 18.09.1 released
#addonrelease
Hi all,
Windows 10 App Essentials 18.09.1 is now available. This release fixes an issue seen in recent modern Calculator updates where NVDA played error tone or appeared to do nothing when announcing unit conversion results and other calculations. As always, the new release is just an update check away… or almost.
You’ll find out why I was a bit hesitant above very soon. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum
Cristóbal
You know… Someone was able to crack this nut once and while it’s a bummer that Webvisum was dumped, it apparently wasn’t impossible to put together the necessary tools to develop it. Other then the Accessible Apps guy who was charging something like $3 a month for a CAPCHA solution, no one else has really given a shot to recreate a similar one. Sure it sucks that you have to maybe pay for something that can be argued should be free, but those are the breaks. That or another intrepid developer can invest their time and money and skill into an accessible CAPTCHA solver out of the kindness of their heart until something’s actually done about the inaccessibility. Even if you pay, just deduct it from your taxes. That said though, I can’t recall the last time I really had an issue with a CAPTCHA. Everything’s the I’m not a robot or audio option for the most part now.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Gene, Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another. Everybody knows that this is untrue. . . ~ Bertrand Russell
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Re: NVDA and amazon
Kwork
It doesn't work on free books as you cannot gift a free book. If the book is $0.00, there is no "buy for others" option. Otherwise, that's a decent workaround.
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On 9/12/2018 6:49 PM, Hope Williamson via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi, here's another trick. If all you find is the "buy for others" button, it's OK to click on that and put in your own email address. Amazon will send you an email with the link to your book in it, you click that link to accept your gift. There ya go, you just bought a book for you, from you. I personally used that 3 times last week, and it worked well.
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Re: itunes latest issue
Lino Morales
Safari doesn’t exist for Windows anymore. I forget when Apple ended support for it.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of John Isige <gwynn@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:40:07 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] itunes latest issue To be fair to Apple, Apple's stuff works pretty differently on Apple's
stuff, as opposed to Windows ports. I don't know if Safari under Windows is usable, but it's usable, if pretty weird, on the mac. On 9/12/2018 19:45, Shaun Everiss wrote: > Thanks for that. > > > > On 9/13/2018 11:19 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >> Apple has an accessibility address >> >> accessibility@... >> >> wher you can send email. They also have a direct phone number to the >> accessibility department. But I don't know about contacting them on >> this line outside the U.S., since it is a toll-free number. (877) >> 204–3930 >> >> >> On 9/12/2018 4:09 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote: >>> Yes it does, I was getting close to getting into apple devices, my >>> aunt well has this, they had issues with icloud, most of that is >>> fixed, I wouldn't complain but basically the entire window does not >>> display, on the desktop itunes, not sure about the app, not sure >>> about dolphin or jaws, >>> >>> But a lot of us need to contact apple about this though I had a job >>> to even get accessibility the main support tech was almost >>> completely useless, I had to go through itunes billing to get a real >>> human the drone I had was useless, scarily enough, when I reached >>> apple access the person I got sounded almost but not quite like the >>> eva cortana voice, so who knows if that was real or not but who >>> knows I am sure it was <grin> >>> >>> >>> On 9/13/2018 11:04 AM, Joseph Weakland wrote: >>>> that sucks:( >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/12/2018 5:56 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote: >>>>> Hi. >>>>> >>>>> Well, just updated to itunes 12.9, the main window is not visible >>>>> with nvda, narator can read it on win10 sort of but not fully, >>>>> nvda just treats it as a blank link. >>>>> >>>>> After ages managed to talk to apple but they think its just an >>>>> nvda issue, who knows if they will actually fix this, and I was >>>>> thinking I would be going to eventually buy an i device. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
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Re: itunes latest issue
Mary Otten
I’m not so interested in being fair to Apple in this instance. Microsoft has made the office suite reasonably accessible on the Mac and even on I devices. Apple hasn’t done that well with iTunes or iCloud for that matter. As somebody who owned a Mac for years, hoping that Apple would catch up with Accessibility there and eventually I went back to windows, I’m disgusted. Far more people in this world use windows then use a Mac. I love the eye devices. Apple needs to step up his game on windows. It’s that simple.
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Mary
On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:40 PM, John Isige <gwynn@tds.net> wrote:
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Re: itunes latest issue
John Isige
To be fair to Apple, Apple's stuff works pretty differently on Apple's
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stuff, as opposed to Windows ports. I don't know if Safari under Windows is usable, but it's usable, if pretty weird, on the mac.
On 9/12/2018 19:45, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Thanks for that.
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itunes issue solved in a round about way
Hi all.
Well I have sort of solved my issue of itunes 12.9. I first uninstalled itunes then tried the app from the app store. The app does the same thing, it appears that apple desktop itunes and apple itunes app are the same. The issue then is this, it appears that the main window of itune is not visible to nvda, it may never have been that way, it was when true desktop interfaces were used, why its not visible is unknown, maybe someone can look at that. At any rate, when I loaded it in nvda and did an nvda b I got just window suggesting there was in deed a window, shift tab got unknown and blank so the way the main window is being presented is well just not happening, I was able to get a partial read with narator, and I may have to resort to using that for now. It does make sence for apple to merge the 2 apps but it is a bit of a problem now.
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Re: NVDA and amazon
Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...>
I've also noticed this issue lately. You might try www dot amazon dot com slash access. I've written this out because my BrailleNote Touch doesn't always translate web addresses correctly. Anyway, I haven't tried buying a Kindle book using this site, but I was able to order an Echo Dot today without any trouble so it's worth a looksee. Hope this helps.
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com abbietaylor945@gmail.com Order my new memoir at http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com/memoir.htm -- Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com abbietaylor945@gmail.com
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Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum
I gave up on the webvism I use capcha be gone I think that it is what it is called, you do have to pay but the
fee is not to bad On 9/12/2018 3:31 PM, Ervin, Glenn
wrote:
-- check out my song on youtube https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
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Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum
Gene
I said what I know, based on years of seeing people
ask for invitations on lists and successfully signing up. I don't recall
when I last saw such a conversation but I think it was somewhere between a year
or two ago. Sorry I had the unmitigated
Gaul to disagree with your inerrancy.
If others agree with you, fine. I'll take
that into account and if there is good reason to do so, a number of people
agreeing and no one disagreeing, or those who disagree seem to present weak
reasons compared with those who agree, I shall consider that I may be
wrong. But I'm not just going to crumble
into a quivering mass of doubt and concession just because you make a
statement.
I'm perfectly willing to admit that I'm wrong when
presented with good evidence. Please present such evidence if there is a
disagreement and I hope others present their evidence or experiences as
well.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last
version to support full webvisum God only knows why your general stance is to say "black" when anyone else says "white," but it's as annoying as hell. I got an invitation from a member here in 2016. I went through the registration process. That's where the process stopped. Nothing comes back. If anyone, and I do mean anyone, can complete a new account registration for Webvisum there are a very great many who would love to know how to do so. I haven't seen a single example of success in several years and know that my own, following their instructions and getting an invitation from a member, went into the great bit bucket in the sky. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another. Everybody knows that this is untrue. . . ~ Bertrand Russell
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Re: NVDA and amazon
Hope Williamson <isepic@...>
Hi, here's another trick. If all you find is the "buy for others" button, it's OK to click on that and put in your own email address. Amazon will send you an email with the link to your book in it, you click that link to accept your gift. There ya go, you just bought a book for you, from you. I personally used that 3 times last week, and it worked well.
On 9/12/2018 5:24 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: Yeah, it's a known issue. To work around it, tab to the buy now button (or the read with kindle unlimited button), then use nvda-numpad minus key, then use the nvda-shift-numpad enter key to activate the button. Yes, you need the shift. I haven't a clue why. And, yes, you need to tab to the button first. (again, no idea why), but that's the only way I've found to get around the issue. I've also reported it to amazon, as have others, but feel free to add your voice to the outcries, perhaps it will cause them to fix it sooner. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
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Re: NVDA and amazon
Kwork
For those interested, The way I do it now on Amazon for Kindle books is through object navigation.
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From the top of the page, use the h key to get to the first heading, an unnumbered level heading called "buying options." Using Desktop layout as that's what I know. All commands using the num pad. Use the nvda+2 combination to enter the buying options dialogue. nvda+6 and nvda+4, to move back and forward through the dialogue. Here you'll hear the regular price of the book, digital price if different, kindle price if lower or free, if it's available through kindle unlimited, and finally a buy now button. NVDA+enter, to activate your selection. Again, desktop layout, all choices in this case using the num pad
On 9/12/2018 5:24 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
Yeah, it's a known issue. To work around it, tab to the buy now button (or the read with kindle unlimited button), then use nvda-numpad minus key, then use the nvda-shift-numpad enter key to activate the button. Yes, you need the shift. I haven't a clue why. And, yes, you need to tab to the button first. (again, no idea why), but that's the only way I've found to get around the issue. I've also reported it to amazon, as have others, but feel free to add your voice to the outcries, perhaps it will cause them to fix it sooner.
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Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum
Gene,
God only knows why your general stance is to say "black" when anyone else says "white," but it's as annoying as hell. I got an invitation from a member here in 2016. I went through the registration process. That's where the process stopped. Nothing comes back. If anyone, and I do mean anyone, can complete a new account registration for Webvisum there are a very great many who would love to know how to do so. I haven't seen a single example of success in several years and know that my own, following their instructions and getting an invitation from a member, went into the great bit bucket in the sky. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another. Everybody knows that this is untrue. . . ~ Bertrand Russell
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Re: Automatic Reading of Footnotes in Word
Quentin Christensen
Hi Kelby, There isn't currently any setting to do this, however, I have created an issue for it on GitHub: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8739 Feel free to subscribe to that issue, or add a comment to it if I missed anything. Regards Quentin.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 7:46 AM, kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote: I think I've asked about this before, but does anyone know if 'Nvda can be set up to automatically read footnotes when doing a "say all" in a document in ms Word? --
Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: itunes latest issue
Thanks for that.
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On 9/13/2018 11:19 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
Apple has an accessibility address
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Re: A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct
Gene
We don't know that it isn't adware. The
nature of the popups wasn't described. Furthermore, I don't know how many
people get them. I don't get them when using Chrome.
Gene
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From: Travis Siegel
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to
correct No, it's not addware. There is a setting in chrome that allows those
popups about tech news, and my son knows which one it is, but I personally
haven't been able to find it in my copy of chrome, so I need to ask him again
which setting it is to turn it off. The news titles pop up in the system
notifications area on the pc. The setting in chrome turns those pop ups
off, so they won't do that anymore. I've looked through my settings, and
couldn't find which setting was causing it, but I'll ask him again and repost
here after I get it turned off. Those don't bother me as much as the flippin' login to my apple drive that
keeps popping up every half hour or so, which seems also to be triggered by my
first opening of chrome after a reboot. I'd really like to turn those
off. I'll log in to the silly thing when I want to use it, not until then,
so stop asking me already. On 9/11/2018 11:56 AM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:
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Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum
Gene
It doesn't imply that the person hasn't used it in
the past. Someone may ask because they want to resume using it after not
having done so for awhile. Also, I expect that you can set up an
account. People were doing so for years, long after Webvisum was monitored
by the developers. What people need to do is ask already existing members
for an invitation. I've seen many such requests on different lists.
Because Webbvism isn't monitored by the developers any longer, you can't get an
invitation from the developers as you could years ago. But I see no reason
that you still can't from already existing members.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last
version to support full webvisum I guess I need to qualify "doesn't work" with "presuming you do not already
have a Webvisum account." Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another. Everybody knows that this is untrue. . . ~ Bertrand Russell
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Re: NVDA and amazon
Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
Yeah, it's a known issue. To work around it, tab to the buy now button (or the read with kindle unlimited button), then use nvda-numpad minus key, then use the nvda-shift-numpad enter key to activate the button. Yes, you need the shift. I haven't a clue why. And, yes, you need to tab to the button first. (again, no idea why), but that's the only way I've found to get around the issue. I've also reported it to amazon, as have others, but feel free to add your voice to the outcries, perhaps it will cause them to fix it sooner.
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On 9/12/2018 6:42 PM, Chris Shook wrote:
Hi,
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Re: problems with nvda2018.3rc1
Quentin Christensen
Hi Paul, Press WINDOWS+. or WINDOWS+; to open the emoji panel, then either right arrow through the items in the current section, press tab to move to the sections and arrows to choose a new section, or start typing to search for emoji, eg "cake" 🍰, "Smiling" ☺or "firetruck" 🚒 (as with many other search fields, you don't necessarily have to type the full thing - I typed "fire" to narrow the results down to a handful to get the fire truck). Press ENTER to insert your chosen emoji, and escape to close the panel. Regards Quentin.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 5:16 AM, P. Otter <pam.otter@...> wrote:
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Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct
Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
No, it's not addware. There is a setting in chrome that allows
those popups about tech news, and my son knows which one it is,
but I personally haven't been able to find it in my copy of
chrome, so I need to ask him again which setting it is to turn it
off. The news titles pop up in the system notifications area on
the pc. The setting in chrome turns those pop ups off, so they
won't do that anymore. I've looked through my settings, and
couldn't find which setting was causing it, but I'll ask him again
and repost here after I get it turned off. Those don't bother me as much as the flippin' login to my apple
drive that keeps popping up every half hour or so, which seems
also to be triggered by my first opening of chrome after a
reboot. I'd really like to turn those off. I'll log in to the
silly thing when I want to use it, not until then, so stop asking
me already. On 9/11/2018 11:56 AM, Ervin, Glenn
wrote:
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