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Re: NVDA 2018.3rc1 now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Felix,

I'll double check for you.  Off the top of my head, I expect it likely checks on startup, and probably if you change NVDA's Braille settings.  Otherwise it would be constantly monitoring for something which in practice, likely wouldn't happen that often.

Also thanks everyone for the reports that everything is going well so far!

Quentin.

On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 10:08 PM, Felix G. <constantlyvariable@...> wrote:
Hi!
Using it right now with no ill effects. Win 7 64 bit, NVDA installed
(not portable).
Braille display autodetection worked successfully for a Handy Tech
device. Is it expected that if I unplug and plug back in the Braille
device it should also autodetect? Because that didn't work. In other
words, autodetection sees the device on startup of NVDA but not when
it later appears on the system. Will test later on Win 10.
Best,
Felix
Am Mo., 10. Sep. 2018 um 11:49 Uhr schrieb Robert Mendoza
<lowvisiontek@...>:
>
> Hi, Quentin.
>
> Done the update to my machine and so far none of as of the moment knocking trouble from my end.
>
> Robert Mendoza
>
>
>
> On 9/10/2018 4:44 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
>
> That's a great start, thanks Brian!
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 6:23 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
>>
>> OK am using it portably on windows 7 at the moment.
>>
>> nothing has gone bang..
>> Brian
>>
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 6:14 AM
>> Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2018.3rc1 now available
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> NV Access has just released NVDA 2018.3rc1. This is a Release Candidate,
>>> meaning that unless any critical bugs are found, this will be identical to
>>> the final 2018.3 release.
>>>
>>> Highlights of this release include automatic detection of many Braille
>>> displays, support for new Windows 10 features including the Windows 10
>>> Imoji input panel, and many other bug fixes. Read the full release
>>> announcement and download the release candidate from:
>>> https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2018-3rc1-released/
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> Quentin.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Quentin Christensen
>>> Training and Support Manager
>>>
>>> Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
>>> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>>>
>>> www.nvaccess.org
>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>>> Twitter: @NVAccess
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
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> Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
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> Twitter: @NVAccess
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>






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Training and Support Manager

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Re: Getting to chat messages during a call in Skype for Windows 10.

John Isige
 

Oh huh! Maybe I'll try that then. If you figure it out that would be great but I kind of started using the app because I didn't think you could use the desktop version after 7. The other big thing I don't like about the app is that if I don't get to the notifications in time, like if I'm away from the computer, it leaves this window up that just says "new notification" and I can't get rid of it. So it kind of messes with switching apps and stuff, or if I close an app instead of going right to the desktop I have to hit win-m because I'm in the new notification window. Other than that it doesn't seem too bad, I have to open it if I want to write longer messages but I've been dealing with that OK. Being able to write shorter messages right from the notification is kind of handy really.

On 9/10/2018 17:42, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi


Ok i have both on this computer but only using the skype 8.2 version
which is the desk top version. I will log out of that one and have a
look back in the other one to see.


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:37 AM, John Isige wrote:
"Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8." So yeah, not
Skype 8.2, but the app version for Windows 10. I'm pretty sure Windows
10 won't let you run the not app version, at least the last time I
tried downloading and installing 8, it told me I'd have a better
experience if I installed from the Microsoft store and gave me an OK
button, and that's it. I could go back to 7 since they seem to be
keeping it around, but I'm really trying to get used to whatever
Microsoft wants me to use so I don't have to worry so much about
what's maybe being killed when and then oh no it turns out that was
wrong and so on.


On 9/10/2018 17:28, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
hi


Is it the app version which is on windows 10? or the skype 8.2 desktop
version?


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:04 AM, John Isige wrote:
Hey all. Ran into something today for the first time. I was in a call
with somebody and wanted to send them a link in a chat. Skype kept
telling me that call controls were shown. There was an option to hide
the chat, but no way that I could tell to get into the area where I
could type a message. Tabbing through the buttons there was an area
where NVDA read nothing and I thought that might be it, but it turned
out not to be. So how do I get to where I can type/send a link in a
chat to the person I'm in a call with? I checked the hotkeys and I
don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as relevant.
Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8.


Funnily enough I was trying to send them a link to the NVDA basic
training. I ended up emailing them instead which was good because I
sent them a bunch of other links too. Still, I'd like to know how to
be able to do that when in a call. I assume it's possible. There are
also other functions, e.g. sending a file, that I couldn't get to
either, e.g. with tab. The set of controls on the screen was pretty
limited.





Re: Getting to chat messages during a call in Skype for Windows 10.

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Just had a look at the app version  say you have connected to the person
with audio if you are still in focus you need to tab a couple of times
to get to the area where you type in your message etc. I think just
above it is where the messages are so you will need to shift/tab to get
to them then use the arrow keys to read them. I think the desktop
version is far easier to jump around and use.


If i remember right there is a written tutorial on the app version of
skype which is found on windows 10. You need to do more tabbing etc in
the app version.


the tutorial can be found on my nvda tutorials for other programs page.


Gene nz

On 11/09/2018 10:37 AM, John Isige wrote:
"Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8." So yeah, not
Skype 8.2, but the app version for Windows 10. I'm pretty sure Windows
10 won't let you run the not app version, at least the last time I
tried downloading and installing 8, it told me I'd have a better
experience if I installed from the Microsoft store and gave me an OK
button, and that's it. I could go back to 7 since they seem to be
keeping it around, but I'm really trying to get used to whatever
Microsoft wants me to use so I don't have to worry so much about
what's maybe being killed when and then oh no it turns out that was
wrong and so on.


On 9/10/2018 17:28, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
hi


Is it the app version which is on windows 10? or the skype 8.2 desktop
version?


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:04 AM, John Isige wrote:
Hey all. Ran into something today for the first time. I was in a call
with somebody and wanted to send them a link in a chat. Skype kept
telling me that call controls were shown. There was an option to hide
the chat, but no way that I could tell to get into the area where I
could type a message. Tabbing through the buttons there was an area
where NVDA read nothing and I thought that might be it, but it turned
out not to be. So how do I get to where I can type/send a link in a
chat to the person I'm in a call with? I checked the hotkeys and I
don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as relevant.
Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8.


Funnily enough I was trying to send them a link to the NVDA basic
training. I ended up emailing them instead which was good because I
sent them a bunch of other links too. Still, I'd like to know how to
be able to do that when in a call. I assume it's possible. There are
also other functions, e.g. sending a file, that I couldn't get to
either, e.g. with tab. The set of controls on the screen was pretty
limited.







Re: Getting to chat messages during a call in Skype for Windows 10.

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Ok i have both on this computer but only using the skype 8.2 version
which is the desk top version. I will log out of that one and have a
look back in the other one to see.


Gene nz

On 11/09/2018 10:37 AM, John Isige wrote:
"Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8." So yeah, not
Skype 8.2, but the app version for Windows 10. I'm pretty sure Windows
10 won't let you run the not app version, at least the last time I
tried downloading and installing 8, it told me I'd have a better
experience if I installed from the Microsoft store and gave me an OK
button, and that's it. I could go back to 7 since they seem to be
keeping it around, but I'm really trying to get used to whatever
Microsoft wants me to use so I don't have to worry so much about
what's maybe being killed when and then oh no it turns out that was
wrong and so on.


On 9/10/2018 17:28, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
hi


Is it the app version which is on windows 10? or the skype 8.2 desktop
version?


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:04 AM, John Isige wrote:
Hey all. Ran into something today for the first time. I was in a call
with somebody and wanted to send them a link in a chat. Skype kept
telling me that call controls were shown. There was an option to hide
the chat, but no way that I could tell to get into the area where I
could type a message. Tabbing through the buttons there was an area
where NVDA read nothing and I thought that might be it, but it turned
out not to be. So how do I get to where I can type/send a link in a
chat to the person I'm in a call with? I checked the hotkeys and I
don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as relevant.
Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8.


Funnily enough I was trying to send them a link to the NVDA basic
training. I ended up emailing them instead which was good because I
sent them a bunch of other links too. Still, I'd like to know how to
be able to do that when in a call. I assume it's possible. There are
also other functions, e.g. sending a file, that I couldn't get to
either, e.g. with tab. The set of controls on the screen was pretty
limited.







Re: Getting to chat messages during a call in Skype for Windows 10.

John Isige
 

"Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8." So yeah, not Skype 8.2, but the app version for Windows 10. I'm pretty sure Windows 10 won't let you run the not app version, at least the last time I tried downloading and installing 8, it told me I'd have a better experience if I installed from the Microsoft store and gave me an OK button, and that's it. I could go back to 7 since they seem to be keeping it around, but I'm really trying to get used to whatever Microsoft wants me to use so I don't have to worry so much about what's maybe being killed when and then oh no it turns out that was wrong and so on.

On 9/10/2018 17:28, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
hi


Is it the app version which is on windows 10? or the skype 8.2 desktop
version?


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:04 AM, John Isige wrote:
Hey all. Ran into something today for the first time. I was in a call
with somebody and wanted to send them a link in a chat. Skype kept
telling me that call controls were shown. There was an option to hide
the chat, but no way that I could tell to get into the area where I
could type a message. Tabbing through the buttons there was an area
where NVDA read nothing and I thought that might be it, but it turned
out not to be. So how do I get to where I can type/send a link in a
chat to the person I'm in a call with? I checked the hotkeys and I
don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as relevant.
Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8.


Funnily enough I was trying to send them a link to the NVDA basic
training. I ended up emailing them instead which was good because I
sent them a bunch of other links too. Still, I'd like to know how to
be able to do that when in a call. I assume it's possible. There are
also other functions, e.g. sending a file, that I couldn't get to
either, e.g. with tab. The set of controls on the screen was pretty
limited.




Re: Getting to chat messages during a call in Skype for Windows 10.

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

hi


Is it the app version which is on windows 10? or the skype 8.2 desktop
version?


Gene nz

On 11/09/2018 10:04 AM, John Isige wrote:
Hey all. Ran into something today for the first time. I was in a call
with somebody and wanted to send them a link in a chat. Skype kept
telling me that call controls were shown. There was an option to hide
the chat, but no way that I could tell to get into the area where I
could type a message. Tabbing through the buttons there was an area
where NVDA read nothing and I thought that might be it, but it turned
out not to be. So how do I get to where I can type/send a link in a
chat to the person I'm in a call with? I checked the hotkeys and I
don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as relevant.
Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8.


Funnily enough I was trying to send them a link to the NVDA basic
training. I ended up emailing them instead which was good because I
sent them a bunch of other links too. Still, I'd like to know how to
be able to do that when in a call. I assume it's possible. There are
also other functions, e.g. sending a file, that I couldn't get to
either, e.g. with tab. The set of controls on the screen was pretty
limited.




Re: NVDA and Searching in Outlook 2016

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Brian,

 

This is a great piece of work! You have been exhaustive in your explanation. I would like to combine this with my own effort as a two-page manual. The first page would give the quick overview of the simple search and the advanced find in its simplest form by only using a search word. I would also provide a list of alt- keyboard shortcuts to each of the advanced parameters as a means of jumping to the parameter that a user wants. Then we would have the complete screen reader user friendly manual on searching in Outlook 2010 to 2016!

 

Do you have any objections to my using your tutorial in this way? With full acknowledgment of course.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 


Re: Getting to chat messages during a call in Skype for Windows 10.

 

To be honest as part of a possible job I tried to get my head around the skype 8 interface, but I never know where I am and to be honest its a large kludge of buttons.

I really think microsoft just needs to have a way we can use the skype classic interface in skype 8 to be honest either that or just leave 7 always up.

The download link for 7 has gone from their website but oh well.

On 9/11/2018 10:04 AM, John Isige wrote:
Hey all. Ran into something today for the first time. I was in a call with somebody and wanted to send them a link in a chat. Skype kept telling me that call controls were shown. There was an option to hide the chat, but no way that I could tell to get into the area where I could type a message. Tabbing through the buttons there was an area where NVDA read nothing and I thought that might be it, but it turned out not to be. So how do I get to where I can type/send a link in a chat to the person I'm in a call with? I checked the hotkeys and I don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as relevant. Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8.


Funnily enough I was trying to send them a link to the NVDA basic training. I ended up emailing them instead which was good because I sent them a bunch of other links too. Still, I'd like to know how to be able to do that when in a call. I assume it's possible. There are also other functions, e.g. sending a file, that I couldn't get to either, e.g. with tab. The set of controls on the screen was pretty limited.




Getting to chat messages during a call in Skype for Windows 10.

John Isige
 

Hey all. Ran into something today for the first time. I was in a call with somebody and wanted to send them a link in a chat. Skype kept telling me that call controls were shown. There was an option to hide the chat, but no way that I could tell to get into the area where I could type a message. Tabbing through the buttons there was an area where NVDA read nothing and I thought that might be it, but it turned out not to be. So how do I get to where I can type/send a link in a chat to the person I'm in a call with? I checked the hotkeys and I don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as relevant. Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8.


Funnily enough I was trying to send them a link to the NVDA basic training. I ended up emailing them instead which was good because I sent them a bunch of other links too. Still, I'd like to know how to be able to do that when in a call. I assume it's possible. There are also other functions, e.g. sending a file, that I couldn't get to either, e.g. with tab. The set of controls on the screen was pretty limited.


Re: Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?

tim
 

Not being signed by Microsoft has nothing to do with viruses of malware. 
Most software companies don’t get signed because of the price is to high.

On Sep 10, 2018, at 5:12 AM, Mallard <mallard@...> wrote:

No, when it happened with NVDA and 360 Total Security, for example, no name was given to anything. NVDA was just blocked and quarantined...

Avast is a specialist in false positives. I hate it from the bottom of my hard drive!

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 08/09/2018 22:22, Antony Stone ha scritto:
I think there are better ways of expressing that than saying "every software
package you use is malware".

Also, why should an anti-virus scanner claim that something that simply hasn't
been signed by Microsoft is malware?  Firstly, it has to give a name to the
virus or Trojan that has been found in the package, and secondly any scanner
which kept giving false positive results would quickly lose reputation to the
competition, who search for actual virus code rather than assuming "not signed
by Microsoft" = "suspicious".


Antony.

On Saturday 08 September 2018 at 22:15:45, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Its not me, I was simply pointing out that most software doesn't have a
valid security signature which is why antivirus stuff has issues with it.

That was my point.

Only certain software does, my other point was with all the certs being
hacked/lost/released early or whatever that maybe it is not the best to
use especially since a lot of normal non corperate users may not be able
to afford it though I have not seen any proof of this.

On 9/9/2018 8:08 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
What on earth is your definition of "malware", Shaun?

Antony.

On Saturday 08 September 2018 at 22:05:05, Shaun Everiss wrote:
To be honest, every software package you use is malware.

And its not because its malware, ages back microsoft developed a
certification system based on signatures.

While thats used a lot, its either to expensive or only given to certain
companies, microsoft uses it, norton does, some other manufacturers of
high profile use it but most of us don't.

If your file has a known signature, ie is microsoft software then its
fine.

If not it needs to be trusted.

With the degree of certs being dropped similar to people losing their
keys quite a lot not to mention all the ssl issues over the past year or
so, my view is that we should simply scrap the siganture security system
or at least bring the cost down to a point where people would actually
use it.

On 9/9/2018 2:40 AM, Mallard wrote:
lol! I wouldn't believe there's a virus in the browser... rather, I'd
think there's a tendency on the part of some antivirus software to see
a lot of open sourcr or somehow "non-standard" software as potentially
harmful.

360 Total Security, which I'm using as an antivirus, kept blocking
NVDA, and it took me a good deal oftime and effort to make it believe
that NVDA is no malware...


Thanks Gene for your version of Tor. No hurry. Upload whenever you
have time.

Ciao,

Ollie




Re: NVDA and ccleaner

Don H
 

So if you uncheck the box to install avast it does it anyway?  I did use the latest version of ccleaner and unchecked the box.  I see no instance of avast on my system.

On 9/10/2018 3:03 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Are you using a portable version of nvvda?
I have found that often you need to restart the computer. I do trust you have not installed the latest version from the web site. We have been warning people off due to its stealth installation of avast.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 8:48 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and ccleaner


running NVDA 2018-3 RC1 on a Win 10 system. I also just downloaded the latest version of CCleaner. After running a scan with ccleaner I can not get NVDA to read the list of items it found. Is there a way to read the list?

Thanks








Re: Portable copy of NVDA not working on laptop

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


how did you disable the audio?


In most cases people just turn off the speakers or just turn the volume
right down.


Or the person would go into the sound settings and mute it.


If that was the case  I would use the windows key + letter R to bring up
the run dialogue type sndvol then press the enter key.


It would then land on the slider and you could use the up arrow key to
increase the sound if you tabbed once more it would land you on a check
box now a button and if muted press it with the space bar to unmute it.


I guess things are here to test us at times.


Gene nz

On 10/09/2018 10:03 PM, Nancy Shackelford wrote:
Thanks so much, Gene. I'll read more about this, but I am definitely
going to need sighted help with this, since my laptop got the audio
disabled; I know how to fix that, but I need help to do it.

Thanks again,

Nance

On 9/9/18, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi


If you do it on a CD nvda must be in a directory called nvda and there
is a autorun.inf file that must be installed in the root directory of
the CD.


Also in later versions of windows now you have to go into the control
panel then autoplay part of it make sure the check box is checked to see
all devices and the following turned on right down near the bottom
called Software and games Install or run program from your media



If you look under the nvda audio tutorials page there are different ways
of starting nvda also putting it onto a CD and USB stick.


You will need to jump down by headings to you hear it either for a cd or
usb stick.


Gene nz


Re: Brian - Portable copy of NVDA not working on laptop

Jackie
 

What I'm thinking--& that likely should in no way be trusted--is that
perhaps she has a key on her laptop to unmute her audio. I've seen
folks hit these keys from time to time, &, if you know which keys do
what, enabling the feature becomes pretty simple.

On 9/10/18, Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@nebraska.gov> wrote:
It would be nice for Windows 10 users if they could ask Cortana to turn on
the audio.
Glenn

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Brian - Portable copy of NVDA not working on laptop

Normally this is turned of in task manager or maybe if troubleshooting a
driver issue.
Brian

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Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Brian - Portable copy of NVDA not working on laptop


Nancy, just curious--How did you disable the system audio?

On 9/10/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
What a plonker as we would say over here. That is a silly way to do it.

It will need re enabling then a system restart, but as you say its an
issue.

I do not suppose you have a smart phone with be my eyes on it do you?
Obviously the well heeled person can call aira and get a paid person to
look as you are looking. Its better than nothing.
Brian

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From: "Nancy Shackelford" <n.k.nancelady@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:09 AM
Subject: [nvda] Brian - Portable copy of NVDA not working on laptop


I wish it were as simple as this, but I'm glad to know this about a
keyboard such as yours. Some dummy (who shall remain nameless) turned
off the Toshiba audio, thinking it could just be re-enabled the same
way, but this didn't work. I finally figured out that the Windows
audio service must've been disabled at the point of disabling the
Toshiba audio, so things should work again when I get someone to go in
and enable that and check in the start page to be sure the other audio
stuff is enabled.

Thanks to everyone,

Nance

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<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Thing is as I said at the start, if this is a simple as a turned off
or
muted sound it could be that if your keyboard has 'extra' keys, one of
those

is a mute unmute toggle.It most certainly is on this logitech wireless
keyboard which had be going for a while when the keyboard fell on the
floor

and turned the sound off!
Brian
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Re: Brian - Portable copy of NVDA not working on laptop

Ervin, Glenn
 

It would be nice for Windows 10 users if they could ask Cortana to turn on the audio.
Glenn

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Brian - Portable copy of NVDA not working on laptop

Normally this is turned of in task manager or maybe if troubleshooting a driver issue.
Brian

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Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Brian - Portable copy of NVDA not working on laptop


Nancy, just curious--How did you disable the system audio?

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What a plonker as we would say over here. That is a silly way to do it.

It will need re enabling then a system restart, but as you say its an
issue.

I do not suppose you have a smart phone with be my eyes on it do you?
Obviously the well heeled person can call aira and get a paid person to
look as you are looking. Its better than nothing.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Nancy Shackelford" <n.k.nancelady@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:09 AM
Subject: [nvda] Brian - Portable copy of NVDA not working on laptop


I wish it were as simple as this, but I'm glad to know this about a
keyboard such as yours. Some dummy (who shall remain nameless) turned
off the Toshiba audio, thinking it could just be re-enabled the same
way, but this didn't work. I finally figured out that the Windows
audio service must've been disabled at the point of disabling the
Toshiba audio, so things should work again when I get someone to go in
and enable that and check in the start page to be sure the other audio
stuff is enabled.

Thanks to everyone,

Nance

On 9/10/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
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Thing is as I said at the start, if this is a simple as a turned off or
muted sound it could be that if your keyboard has 'extra' keys, one of
those

is a mute unmute toggle.It most certainly is on this logitech wireless
keyboard which had be going for a while when the keyboard fell on the
floor

and turned the sound off!
Brian
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Re: NVDA’s compatibility with the Braille Me Braille display from NBP?

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I assume you are saying that the orbit has been withdrawn again as I recall several uk people had ordered one but seen nothing.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Christo de Klerk" <christodeklerk@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA’s compatibility with the Braille Me Braille display from NBP?


I think that if you look at it now, you will find that a huge amount of
work has been done on it. We started importing and distributing them
here in South Africa recently and people are very happy with the machine.

Remember that the Orbit itself went through a disastrous launch and was
withdrawn from the market for months. These teething problems happen
with new stuff.

But to return on topic, the add-on for NVDA provided by Innovision makes
the device quite compatible with NVDA and I believe that will be
improved further with time. Innovision is very responsive to suggestions.

Regards

Christo


On 2018/09/10 01:39 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
yes, the braille me from nbp is the exact same thing as the braille me
from innovision in India. When I bought mine, the dot quality was not
that good. and when you would shake it, it would sound like you are
shaking a box of hard candy or a box of marbles. The dots would not go
all the way down, and it felt like reading a mix of good braille and
badly erased braille. Unless this has changed? Also, some characters
that show up in braille or brf files and brl files from some braille
translation software would not even display on the braille me.




Re: NVDA and ccleaner

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Are you using a portable version of nvvda?
I have found that often you need to restart the computer. I do trust you have not installed the latest version from the web site. We have been warning people off due to its stealth installation of avast.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 8:48 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and ccleaner


running NVDA 2018-3 RC1 on a Win 10 system. I also just downloaded the latest version of CCleaner. After running a scan with ccleaner I can not get NVDA to read the list of items it found. Is there a way to read the list?

Thanks




Re: Brian - Portable copy of NVDA not working on laptop

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Normally this is turned of in task manager or maybe if troubleshooting a driver issue.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie" <abletec@gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Brian - Portable copy of NVDA not working on laptop


Nancy, just curious--How did you disable the system audio?

On 9/10/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
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What a plonker as we would say over here. That is a silly way to do it.

It will need re enabling then a system restart, but as you say its an issue.

I do not suppose you have a smart phone with be my eyes on it do you?
Obviously the well heeled person can call aira and get a paid person to
look as you are looking. Its better than nothing.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Nancy Shackelford" <n.k.nancelady@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:09 AM
Subject: [nvda] Brian - Portable copy of NVDA not working on laptop


I wish it were as simple as this, but I'm glad to know this about a
keyboard such as yours. Some dummy (who shall remain nameless) turned
off the Toshiba audio, thinking it could just be re-enabled the same
way, but this didn't work. I finally figured out that the Windows
audio service must've been disabled at the point of disabling the
Toshiba audio, so things should work again when I get someone to go in
and enable that and check in the start page to be sure the other audio
stuff is enabled.

Thanks to everyone,

Nance

On 9/10/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Thing is as I said at the start, if this is a simple as a turned off or
muted sound it could be that if your keyboard has 'extra' keys, one of
those

is a mute unmute toggle.It most certainly is on this logitech wireless
keyboard which had be going for a while when the keyboard fell on the
floor

and turned the sound off!
Brian
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Sapi 5 of Espeak

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OK I have now installed it but beware, its not as easy to get the variants as in nvda. I have had to import my voices after the fact. What you need to do before installing is find out where the voices you want are in nvda, and copy them from the v folder somewhere.

Now noting the file names when you install the espeak sapi five version you can add the voice names as the installer asks you to. you can have several. Do not worry that they do not exist yet. Once installed, go to the installed folder of the sapi 5 version find its v folder and copy the voices in. Then you can use nvdas voice selection to test them in the sapi 5 synth. Note that they do seem slower, but at least you can have the voice you like this way as those shipped with the package have had many of the ones nvda has cut, including my Quincy. bloody cheek"! I jest.
However put it back to the native espeak if you were using it.
Then in jaws select the profiles and the synth and hey presto in the list of voices is dear old Quincy which I can configure. of course in Jaws you can have all sorts of voices for all sorts of things. its all a bit overkill, but also it seems to work in other software that uses sapi 5 as well which was what I wanted to do.

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Re: Brian - Portable copy of NVDA not working on laptop

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Nancy, just curious--How did you disable the system audio?

On 9/10/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
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What a plonker as we would say over here. That is a silly way to do it.

It will need re enabling then a system restart, but as you say its an issue.

I do not suppose you have a smart phone with be my eyes on it do you?
Obviously the well heeled person can call aira and get a paid person to
look as you are looking. Its better than nothing.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Nancy Shackelford" <n.k.nancelady@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:09 AM
Subject: [nvda] Brian - Portable copy of NVDA not working on laptop


I wish it were as simple as this, but I'm glad to know this about a
keyboard such as yours. Some dummy (who shall remain nameless) turned
off the Toshiba audio, thinking it could just be re-enabled the same
way, but this didn't work. I finally figured out that the Windows
audio service must've been disabled at the point of disabling the
Toshiba audio, so things should work again when I get someone to go in
and enable that and check in the start page to be sure the other audio
stuff is enabled.

Thanks to everyone,

Nance

On 9/10/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Thing is as I said at the start, if this is a simple as a turned off or
muted sound it could be that if your keyboard has 'extra' keys, one of
those

is a mute unmute toggle.It most certainly is on this logitech wireless
keyboard which had be going for a while when the keyboard fell on the
floor

and turned the sound off!
Brian
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NVDA and ccleaner

Don H
 

running NVDA 2018-3 RC1 on a Win 10 system.  I also just downloaded the latest version of CCleaner.  After running a scan with ccleaner I can not get NVDA to read the list of items it found.  Is there a way to read the list?

Thanks