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Re: I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Molly,

 

I think screen review is a way to get around the screen when you can’t do it with just regular keystrokes.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 9:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hey guys?

What is screen review? I’ve never heard of it.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 12:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

I never use screen review, I alwyas use object nav as for me I can get around and skip windows I don't want to see. the laptop layout even though I'm using a full sized keyboard as it just feels more like mac os for me.

On 25 Dec 2018, at 7:11, Gene wrote:

I don't use apps because I don't use versions of Windows newer than Windows 7.  But in standard applications, screen review, the equivalent of the JAWS cursor, can be more convenient and intuitive.  I don't know how many people following this thread use screen review but I think they both should be known.

 

Screen review is very easy to explain in terms of how you switch to it and use it and I will discuss it if people want to know.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:56 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi,

As I said multiple times before, screen review won’t work in newer apps, but I do agree that in some cases, screen review is helpful for some tasks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

However, there are times when screen review provides access to the same things and is more convenient to use.  Object navigation can provide access to things at times that screen review can't. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:47 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi,

One important thing to remember: I recommend using object navigation for cases where you can’t navigate with a keyboard. Object navigation commands (and for that matter, Golden Cursor add-on) won’t replace the value of using keyboard commands (let’s not go into Golden Cursor add-on, as it is way different than object navigation). Part of what makes NvDA useful (or for that matter, any screen reader useful) is distinguishing when different methods are appropriate.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi.

Happy holidays.

I’ve not tried the golden cursor yet, but it sounds interesting. My goal is to be able to use object navigation in all my favorite apps, word, outlook, etc. It’ll probably make navigating them much easier. It really is neat.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 2:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Yes!

That is why I love NVDA so much!

You can get to every element on the screen whether it be a toolbar, a button on the toolbar, or what ever!

It is beautiful to have the Golden cursor add-on to navigate with the mouse as well!

Go NVDA!

Have a great holiday everyone!

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 9:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that.

Anyway, it’s very cool.

Happy Holidays

 

 

 


Re: I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hey guys?

What is screen review? I’ve never heard of it.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 12:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

I never use screen review, I alwyas use object nav as for me I can get around and skip windows I don't want to see. the laptop layout even though I'm using a full sized keyboard as it just feels more like mac os for me.

On 25 Dec 2018, at 7:11, Gene wrote:

I don't use apps because I don't use versions of Windows newer than Windows 7.  But in standard applications, screen review, the equivalent of the JAWS cursor, can be more convenient and intuitive.  I don't know how many people following this thread use screen review but I think they both should be known.

 

Screen review is very easy to explain in terms of how you switch to it and use it and I will discuss it if people want to know.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:56 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi,

As I said multiple times before, screen review won’t work in newer apps, but I do agree that in some cases, screen review is helpful for some tasks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

However, there are times when screen review provides access to the same things and is more convenient to use.  Object navigation can provide access to things at times that screen review can't. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:47 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi,

One important thing to remember: I recommend using object navigation for cases where you can’t navigate with a keyboard. Object navigation commands (and for that matter, Golden Cursor add-on) won’t replace the value of using keyboard commands (let’s not go into Golden Cursor add-on, as it is way different than object navigation). Part of what makes NvDA useful (or for that matter, any screen reader useful) is distinguishing when different methods are appropriate.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi.

Happy holidays.

I’ve not tried the golden cursor yet, but it sounds interesting. My goal is to be able to use object navigation in all my favorite apps, word, outlook, etc. It’ll probably make navigating them much easier. It really is neat.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 2:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Yes!

That is why I love NVDA so much!

You can get to every element on the screen whether it be a toolbar, a button on the toolbar, or what ever!

It is beautiful to have the Golden cursor add-on to navigate with the mouse as well!

Go NVDA!

Have a great holiday everyone!

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 9:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that.

Anyway, it’s very cool.

Happy Holidays

 

 


Re: inserting emogies

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi.

I was going to do a tutorial on using emojis with Nvda but someone has very kindly provided one.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Keao Wright
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 11:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] inserting emogies

 

Yes it was. It’s easy once you read the tutorial.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kwork
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] inserting emogies

 

Yep. It said thumbs up musical notes. If that was the intended, then it worked. Now I need to learn it. LOL!

Merry Christmas all!

Travis

On 12/25/2018 8:12 AM, Keao Wright wrote:

Hi Joseph,

Thanks for this.

Lets see if this works!

👍🎶

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 4:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] inserting emogies

 

Hi,

You’ll need Windows 10 Fall Creators Update (Version 1709) or later in order to insert emojis.

There is a tutorial I wrote (featured on most recent Top Tech Tidbids) that goes over emoji panel and how it works, as well as what to expect in coming months with this feature:

https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/tutorial_all_about_emoji/28794447?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,20,28794447

Note that the tutorial tries to be screen reader agnostic but most of it applies to NVDA users. Don’t worry about the bit on Insider Preview changes to emoji panel – that’s in the future, and I have already written workarounds for it (part of an add-on, and plan to send the code to NV Access for inclusion in a future version of NVDA).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Keao Wright
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:41 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] inserting emogies

 

Hello,

I know this was brought up before probably but how do you put in an emogie in a message or anything else using nvda?


Re: inserting emogies

molly the blind tech lover
 

There are some silly emojis.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kwork
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 11:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] inserting emogies

 

Yep. It said thumbs up musical notes. If that was the intended, then it worked. Now I need to learn it. LOL!

Merry Christmas all!

Travis

On 12/25/2018 8:12 AM, Keao Wright wrote:

Hi Joseph,

Thanks for this.

Lets see if this works!

👍🎶

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 4:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] inserting emogies

 

Hi,

You’ll need Windows 10 Fall Creators Update (Version 1709) or later in order to insert emojis.

There is a tutorial I wrote (featured on most recent Top Tech Tidbids) that goes over emoji panel and how it works, as well as what to expect in coming months with this feature:

https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/tutorial_all_about_emoji/28794447?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,20,28794447

Note that the tutorial tries to be screen reader agnostic but most of it applies to NVDA users. Don’t worry about the bit on Insider Preview changes to emoji panel – that’s in the future, and I have already written workarounds for it (part of an add-on, and plan to send the code to NV Access for inclusion in a future version of NVDA).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Keao Wright
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:41 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] inserting emogies

 

Hello,

I know this was brought up before probably but how do you put in an emogie in a message or anything else using nvda?


Re: I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

Sarah k Alawami
 

I never use screen review, I alwyas use object nav as for me I can get around and skip windows I don't want to see. the laptop layout even though I'm using a full sized keyboard as it just feels more like mac os for me.

On 25 Dec 2018, at 7:11, Gene wrote:

I don't use apps because I don't use versions of Windows newer than Windows 7.  But in standard applications, screen review, the equivalent of the JAWS cursor, can be more convenient and intuitive.  I don't know how many people following this thread use screen review but I think they both should be known.
 
Screen review is very easy to explain in terms of how you switch to it and use it and I will discuss it if people want to know.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

Hi,

As I said multiple times before, screen review won’t work in newer apps, but I do agree that in some cases, screen review is helpful for some tasks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

However, there are times when screen review provides access to the same things and is more convenient to use.  Object navigation can provide access to things at times that screen review can't. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:47 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi,

One important thing to remember: I recommend using object navigation for cases where you can’t navigate with a keyboard. Object navigation commands (and for that matter, Golden Cursor add-on) won’t replace the value of using keyboard commands (let’s not go into Golden Cursor add-on, as it is way different than object navigation). Part of what makes NvDA useful (or for that matter, any screen reader useful) is distinguishing when different methods are appropriate.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi.

Happy holidays.

I’ve not tried the golden cursor yet, but it sounds interesting. My goal is to be able to use object navigation in all my favorite apps, word, outlook, etc. It’ll probably make navigating them much easier. It really is neat.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 2:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Yes!

That is why I love NVDA so much!

You can get to every element on the screen whether it be a toolbar, a button on the toolbar, or what ever!

It is beautiful to have the Golden cursor add-on to navigate with the mouse as well!

Go NVDA!

Have a great holiday everyone!

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 9:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that.

Anyway, it’s very cool.

Happy Holidays

 

 


Re: inserting emogies

Keao Wright <keaow@...>
 

Yes it was. It’s easy once you read the tutorial.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kwork
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] inserting emogies

 

Yep. It said thumbs up musical notes. If that was the intended, then it worked. Now I need to learn it. LOL!

Merry Christmas all!

Travis

On 12/25/2018 8:12 AM, Keao Wright wrote:

Hi Joseph,

Thanks for this.

Lets see if this works!

👍🎶

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 4:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] inserting emogies

 

Hi,

You’ll need Windows 10 Fall Creators Update (Version 1709) or later in order to insert emojis.

There is a tutorial I wrote (featured on most recent Top Tech Tidbids) that goes over emoji panel and how it works, as well as what to expect in coming months with this feature:

https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/tutorial_all_about_emoji/28794447?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,20,28794447

Note that the tutorial tries to be screen reader agnostic but most of it applies to NVDA users. Don’t worry about the bit on Insider Preview changes to emoji panel – that’s in the future, and I have already written workarounds for it (part of an add-on, and plan to send the code to NV Access for inclusion in a future version of NVDA).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Keao Wright
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:41 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] inserting emogies

 

Hello,

I know this was brought up before probably but how do you put in an emogie in a message or anything else using nvda?


Re: inserting emogies

Kwork
 

Yep. It said thumbs up musical notes. If that was the intended, then it worked. Now I need to learn it. LOL!

Merry Christmas all!

Travis

On 12/25/2018 8:12 AM, Keao Wright wrote:

Hi Joseph,

Thanks for this.

Lets see if this works!

👍🎶

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 4:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] inserting emogies

 

Hi,

You’ll need Windows 10 Fall Creators Update (Version 1709) or later in order to insert emojis.

There is a tutorial I wrote (featured on most recent Top Tech Tidbids) that goes over emoji panel and how it works, as well as what to expect in coming months with this feature:

https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/tutorial_all_about_emoji/28794447?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,20,28794447

Note that the tutorial tries to be screen reader agnostic but most of it applies to NVDA users. Don’t worry about the bit on Insider Preview changes to emoji panel – that’s in the future, and I have already written workarounds for it (part of an add-on, and plan to send the code to NV Access for inclusion in a future version of NVDA).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Keao Wright
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:41 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] inserting emogies

 

Hello,

I know this was brought up before probably but how do you put in an emogie in a message or anything else using nvda?


Re: Fw: [espeak-ng] The UK £ sign

Marcia Yale
 

I wonder if the fact that the 1/2 symbol is not being processed properly is
part of this problem. The symbol is ½, and it's being spoken as "symbol bd"
instead of "one-half".

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 12:18 PM
To: nvda@groups.io; NVDA screen reader development
Subject: [nvda] Fw: [espeak-ng] The UK £ sign

Hi folks, is this an error in the latest version of NVDAs defaults? Can I
change this and not muck other stuff up?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <llajta2012@gmail.com>
To: <espeak-ng@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [espeak-ng] The UK £ sign


Hi Brian,

this is an issues in NVDA.
The puound £ sign it is included in dictionaries for the emoji on
espeak-ng.
NVDA 2018.4 doesn't uses emoji dictionaries from espeak-ng, these files
are removed during compiling NVDA.
As you know, NVDA 2018.4 includes all emoji and symbos from Unicode
Consortium, and the pound sign appears in the symbols list, but the
pronunciation level for this symbol should be changed in NVDA.

Probabily the sign Cents and euro present the same issue.

In speechPlayerInEspeak the problem not exists, the pound sign is in the
standard dictionary for english (EN_LIST).

Hope my explanation is clear.

Chris.

In reply to Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io, 19/12/2018 19:18:
I seem to be finding in Espeak NG as used in nvda it is only spoken when
its cursored past. IE not if a line or say all is used. Now iyt cannot
be a punctuation level issue as the old version of Espeak in Speech
player in Espeak when selected as tthe synth seems to be OK. Is it me or
what?
Brian

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Re: inserting emogies

 

Hi,

Yes, it worked.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Keao Wright
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 7:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] inserting emogies

 

Hi Joseph,

Thanks for this.

Lets see if this works!

👍🎶

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 4:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] inserting emogies

 

Hi,

You’ll need Windows 10 Fall Creators Update (Version 1709) or later in order to insert emojis.

There is a tutorial I wrote (featured on most recent Top Tech Tidbids) that goes over emoji panel and how it works, as well as what to expect in coming months with this feature:

https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/tutorial_all_about_emoji/28794447?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,20,28794447

Note that the tutorial tries to be screen reader agnostic but most of it applies to NVDA users. Don’t worry about the bit on Insider Preview changes to emoji panel – that’s in the future, and I have already written workarounds for it (part of an add-on, and plan to send the code to NV Access for inclusion in a future version of NVDA).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Keao Wright
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:41 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] inserting emogies

 

Hello,

I know this was brought up before probably but how do you put in an emogie in a message or anything else using nvda?


Re: inserting emogies

Keao Wright <keaow@...>
 

Hi Joseph,

Thanks for this.

Lets see if this works!

👍🎶

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 4:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] inserting emogies

 

Hi,

You’ll need Windows 10 Fall Creators Update (Version 1709) or later in order to insert emojis.

There is a tutorial I wrote (featured on most recent Top Tech Tidbids) that goes over emoji panel and how it works, as well as what to expect in coming months with this feature:

https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/tutorial_all_about_emoji/28794447?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,20,28794447

Note that the tutorial tries to be screen reader agnostic but most of it applies to NVDA users. Don’t worry about the bit on Insider Preview changes to emoji panel – that’s in the future, and I have already written workarounds for it (part of an add-on, and plan to send the code to NV Access for inclusion in a future version of NVDA).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Keao Wright
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:41 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] inserting emogies

 

Hello,

I know this was brought up before probably but how do you put in an emogie in a message or anything else using nvda?


Re: I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

Gene
 

I don't use apps because I don't use versions of Windows newer than Windows 7.  But in standard applications, screen review, the equivalent of the JAWS cursor, can be more convenient and intuitive.  I don't know how many people following this thread use screen review but I think they both should be known.
 
Screen review is very easy to explain in terms of how you switch to it and use it and I will discuss it if people want to know.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

Hi,

As I said multiple times before, screen review won’t work in newer apps, but I do agree that in some cases, screen review is helpful for some tasks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

However, there are times when screen review provides access to the same things and is more convenient to use.  Object navigation can provide access to things at times that screen review can't. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:47 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi,

One important thing to remember: I recommend using object navigation for cases where you can’t navigate with a keyboard. Object navigation commands (and for that matter, Golden Cursor add-on) won’t replace the value of using keyboard commands (let’s not go into Golden Cursor add-on, as it is way different than object navigation). Part of what makes NvDA useful (or for that matter, any screen reader useful) is distinguishing when different methods are appropriate.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi.

Happy holidays.

I’ve not tried the golden cursor yet, but it sounds interesting. My goal is to be able to use object navigation in all my favorite apps, word, outlook, etc. It’ll probably make navigating them much easier. It really is neat.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 2:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Yes!

That is why I love NVDA so much!

You can get to every element on the screen whether it be a toolbar, a button on the toolbar, or what ever!

It is beautiful to have the Golden cursor add-on to navigate with the mouse as well!

Go NVDA!

Have a great holiday everyone!

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 9:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that.

Anyway, it’s very cool.

Happy Holidays

 

 


Re: I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi,

As I said multiple times before, screen review won’t work in newer apps, but I do agree that in some cases, screen review is helpful for some tasks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

However, there are times when screen review provides access to the same things and is more convenient to use.  Object navigation can provide access to things at times that screen review can't. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:47 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi,

One important thing to remember: I recommend using object navigation for cases where you can’t navigate with a keyboard. Object navigation commands (and for that matter, Golden Cursor add-on) won’t replace the value of using keyboard commands (let’s not go into Golden Cursor add-on, as it is way different than object navigation). Part of what makes NvDA useful (or for that matter, any screen reader useful) is distinguishing when different methods are appropriate.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi.

Happy holidays.

I’ve not tried the golden cursor yet, but it sounds interesting. My goal is to be able to use object navigation in all my favorite apps, word, outlook, etc. It’ll probably make navigating them much easier. It really is neat.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 2:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Yes!

That is why I love NVDA so much!

You can get to every element on the screen whether it be a toolbar, a button on the toolbar, or what ever!

It is beautiful to have the Golden cursor add-on to navigate with the mouse as well!

Go NVDA!

Have a great holiday everyone!

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 9:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that.

Anyway, it’s very cool.

Happy Holidays

 

 


Re: I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

Gene
 

I should also remind people that if you use screen review, you should always remember to set NVDA back to object review afterwards.  If you don't, some methods of moving won't work as expected.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

However, there are times when screen review provides access to the same things and is more convenient to use.  Object navigation can provide access to things at times that screen review can't. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

Hi,

One important thing to remember: I recommend using object navigation for cases where you can’t navigate with a keyboard. Object navigation commands (and for that matter, Golden Cursor add-on) won’t replace the value of using keyboard commands (let’s not go into Golden Cursor add-on, as it is way different than object navigation). Part of what makes NvDA useful (or for that matter, any screen reader useful) is distinguishing when different methods are appropriate.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi.

Happy holidays.

I’ve not tried the golden cursor yet, but it sounds interesting. My goal is to be able to use object navigation in all my favorite apps, word, outlook, etc. It’ll probably make navigating them much easier. It really is neat.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 2:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Yes!

That is why I love NVDA so much!

You can get to every element on the screen whether it be a toolbar, a button on the toolbar, or what ever!

It is beautiful to have the Golden cursor add-on to navigate with the mouse as well!

Go NVDA!

Have a great holiday everyone!

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 9:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that.

Anyway, it’s very cool.

Happy Holidays

 

 


Re: inserting emogies

 

Hi,

You’ll need Windows 10 Fall Creators Update (Version 1709) or later in order to insert emojis.

There is a tutorial I wrote (featured on most recent Top Tech Tidbids) that goes over emoji panel and how it works, as well as what to expect in coming months with this feature:

https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/tutorial_all_about_emoji/28794447?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,20,28794447

Note that the tutorial tries to be screen reader agnostic but most of it applies to NVDA users. Don’t worry about the bit on Insider Preview changes to emoji panel – that’s in the future, and I have already written workarounds for it (part of an add-on, and plan to send the code to NV Access for inclusion in a future version of NVDA).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Keao Wright
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:41 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] inserting emogies

 

Hello,

I know this was brought up before probably but how do you put in an emogie in a message or anything else using nvda?


Re: I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

Gene
 

However, there are times when screen review provides access to the same things and is more convenient to use.  Object navigation can provide access to things at times that screen review can't. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

Hi,

One important thing to remember: I recommend using object navigation for cases where you can’t navigate with a keyboard. Object navigation commands (and for that matter, Golden Cursor add-on) won’t replace the value of using keyboard commands (let’s not go into Golden Cursor add-on, as it is way different than object navigation). Part of what makes NvDA useful (or for that matter, any screen reader useful) is distinguishing when different methods are appropriate.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi.

Happy holidays.

I’ve not tried the golden cursor yet, but it sounds interesting. My goal is to be able to use object navigation in all my favorite apps, word, outlook, etc. It’ll probably make navigating them much easier. It really is neat.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 2:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Yes!

That is why I love NVDA so much!

You can get to every element on the screen whether it be a toolbar, a button on the toolbar, or what ever!

It is beautiful to have the Golden cursor add-on to navigate with the mouse as well!

Go NVDA!

Have a great holiday everyone!

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 9:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that.

Anyway, it’s very cool.

Happy Holidays

 

 


Re: Christmas Greetings

Gerardo Corripio
 

I to would like to wish the developers of NVDA a Merry Christmas! may these days of rest bring more inspiration and energy to continue making of NVDA what it’s becoming. Thanks to you guys, I was able to, as son as I got my Windows10 Laptop set up, start using it right away with the Windows10 built-in oices toget me up and running< nowI’m proudly using NVDA’sVocalizer voices, which make the experience better still! Thanks for making Windows10 even more accesible via the Windows10 Apps Essentials Add-on! And also the way of making aps work with the Review mode system, and via its Add-ons. Those who don’t have the means to keeprenewing other screen reader updates, can also have equalaccess to the computer age, be in a cybercafe, in one’s home or work< anywhere, especially with NVDA’s use with Flash drives anywhere! Keep up the great work!

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: David Moore
Enviado: martes, 25 de diciembre de 2018 01:27 a. m.
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] Christmas Greetings

 

Hi all!

Merry Christmas all in this great community!

NVDA is such a blessing, and I thank all of you for making my life so much better for

Making NVDA better everyday and all of the time you sacrifice putting into it!

David Moore

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ian Westerland
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 6:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Christmas Greetings

 

Hi everyone.  Firstly, I wish everyone a very happy Christmas.  Thank

you to all who develop, test and otherwise keep NVDA getting better and

better with each release.

 

Ian Westerland

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi,

One important thing to remember: I recommend using object navigation for cases where you can’t navigate with a keyboard. Object navigation commands (and for that matter, Golden Cursor add-on) won’t replace the value of using keyboard commands (let’s not go into Golden Cursor add-on, as it is way different than object navigation). Part of what makes NvDA useful (or for that matter, any screen reader useful) is distinguishing when different methods are appropriate.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi.

Happy holidays.

I’ve not tried the golden cursor yet, but it sounds interesting. My goal is to be able to use object navigation in all my favorite apps, word, outlook, etc. It’ll probably make navigating them much easier. It really is neat.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 2:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Yes!

That is why I love NVDA so much!

You can get to every element on the screen whether it be a toolbar, a button on the toolbar, or what ever!

It is beautiful to have the Golden cursor add-on to navigate with the mouse as well!

Go NVDA!

Have a great holiday everyone!

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 9:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that.

Anyway, it’s very cool.

Happy Holidays

 

 


Re: still having tablet issues

Giles Turnbull
 

I have a Surface Pro 4 and admit I've never used it as a touch screen device. I plug a USB wifi dongle in that is for a Logitech wireless keyboard. I love the Logitech keyboards because they have an on/off switch so you can move them without unexpected things happening if any keys are accidentally pressed!

I use this at my uni workshops and, becuase it rains a lot in Swansea, put a freezer bag over the end poking out of my bag, to sheild the keyboard from the rain ... like a giant condom! ;)

I've never been good with touch screens ... even on my iPhone it takes me ages of running my finger around the screen to find the send button if I need to send a message. I use Siri to dictate my messages ... the only thing I find remotely easy to do is dial phone numbers on the iPhone ...

I did initially have trouble with NVDA on my Surface Pro when I was listening through headphones or an external speaker becuase it kept cutting the audio and going back to the internal speaker when I changed to a different NVDA configuration ... but that was before I knew about the sound output device setting in the synthesiser options :)

Sorry not to have any info specific to your problems, but I think the Surface Pro is a very good tablet and would recommend something like the Logitech keyboard if you don't have an external keyboard :)

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/computer-accessories/mice-and-keyboards/keyboards/logitech-k270-wireless-keyboard-10139223-pdt.html

Feel free to contact me off-list if I can help with other Surface Pro problems :)

Giles


inserting emogies

Keao Wright <keaow@...>
 

Hello,

I know this was brought up before probably but how do you put in an emogie in a message or anything else using nvda?


Re: I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hello.

Happy holidays.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Keao Wright
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 3:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hey Molly,

That’s pretty cool!

Haven’t tried out the laptop layout yet, but glad I have a Bluetooth keyboard to test this out!

Merry Christmas!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 4:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that.

Anyway, it’s very cool.

Happy Holidays