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Portable and installed Version of NVDA

Hermann-Josef Kurzen
 

Hi there,

I am using a portable version of NVDA.
I've also installed some addons. Now I decided to install NVDA on my PC. What about the addons I'm using in the portable version? Will they be integrated into the installed version? Or is it neccessary to installed one by another?


Greetings - Hermann





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Re: How different is NVDA different than Jaws? ... JAWS cursor

Annette Moore
 

I'll add my "Yes" to the growing list of requests for a tutorial pertaining to object navigation. I kno how to get in and out of screen and object review, but I don't really know the difference.

Merry christmas and  happy holidays to all of you!

Annette

On 12/23/2018 12:10 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:
Hi Joseph,
I think a tutorial on object navigation would be helpful when you have time. Many on this list would appreciate it.
Have a merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas to all.
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 12:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How different is NVDA different than Jaws? ... JAWS cursor

Hi,
In order to understand how object navigation works, it is helpful to get an overview of how things are laid out on screen. Effectively, when you use this mode, you're navigating in and out of various controls on screen (hierarchy, if you will).
I'll wait for more requests before writing a slightly more thorough tutorial on object navigation (I think I did this before, but can't remember quite well at the moment due to volume of changes since than and in the midst of preparing for Christmas festivities).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 9:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How different is NVDA different than Jaws? ... JAWS cursor

I'd surely appreciate that. I too have a problem understanding Object navigation as I was a 18 year user of Window Eyes. Thank You.

On 12/23/2018 8:58 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,

If people want, I’m willing to “transcribe” object navigation portion
of my tutorial series or do a more thorough write up.

Cheers,

Joseph

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *David
Goldfield
*Sent:* Sunday, December 23, 2018 8:50 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] How different is NVDA different than Jaws? ...
JAWS cursor

Ann,

I can well relate to this struggle with object navigation. When I
first started using NVDA in 2009 I had been a user of JAWS since version 1.0.
At that time, object navigation was so confusing that I felt that I
had to turn my mind inside out just to get a grip on it and, for a
while, I pretty much ignored the capability. I just used the standard
arrow keys to navigate and was pretty content doing so.

A few things turned me around, however. First, understanding the Mac's
method of interacting with windows within windows or controls within a
window helped as the concepts, to me, were similar. And, while I don't
want to turn this into a JAWS vs NVDA debate, the fact is that object
navigation on the numeric keypad will allow you to explore certain
program windows that the JAWS cursor just doesn't see, especially in
Windows 10. When I was training new users in how to use NVDA I know
that some of them would never have been able to deal with object navigation.
However, pressing insert-7 (on the number pad) to put NVDA into flat
review mode may work for a lot of people, even though this mode may
not work for all windows. Within this mode and even in the standard
review mode the number pad commands may be more intuitive with 7, 8
and 9 for previous, current and next line, 4, 5 and 6 for previous,
current and next word and 1, 2 and 3 for previous, current and next
character. This feels very comfortable for me since ASAP, a screen
reader I used in the DOS days, used the same commands for its review capability.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com <http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com>

On 12/23/2018 11:40 AM, Ann Byrne wrote:

My most difficult issue with NVDA is understanding object view. I
struggle to move freely around the screen the way the JAWS cursor
often does.










Re: fore some reason nvda isn't talking when I'm using my keyboard

Dale Leavens
 

So your tablet now is talking when you use your keyboard.  It got fixed yesterday if my memory serves.

Can we close this topic now?and maybe that WeWalk too?  It is a long time since any messages had anything to do with anything but personal low self esteem or the convenience of carrying dog food and poop bags about as some sort of benefit over using a cane.

Merry Christmas!

Dale Leavens

On Dec 23, 2018, at 7:36 PM, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:

My surface lags slightly sometimes, but it’s no big deal. I’ll probably upgrade my surface next year. For now I love it… Most of the time.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 7:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] fore some reason nvda isn't talking when I'm using my keyboard

 

I can’t comment on the Surface and I don’t know why the computer you describe was so slow.  I am using a laptop at the moment, as I write this message which I bought in 2011.  It was a reasonably fast machine for its time but nothing out of the ordinary.  I can load Chrome using a blank home page in about three seconds.  The New York Times Home Page loads in

about three seconds.  I can load Windows Live Mail in slightly less than two seconds.

 

It takes about twentyy seconds to get to the login screen when booting and ten or fifteen seconds to get to the desktop when I press enter to log in. 

 

Computers using physical hard drives aren’t slow if they are reasonably fast machines.  And I’m using Windows 7, and many Windows 10 users say that Windows 10 is faster. 

 

And as I said, if I use sleep, I can resume from sleep in two or three seconds.  I just opened Wordpad.  It took about two seconds.  If I open word starter, it takes a good deal longer. It takes about ten seconds.  But after you open Word, you work with documents.  It should take no meanikngfully different time regardless of mechanical or solid state drive to edit a document.  

 

I’m not disputing that a SSD is faster.  I’m saying that for many users, I don’t think the faster time matters in any significant way.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 5:28 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] fore some reason nvda isn't talking when I'm using my keyboard

 

That sounds more like a memory issue than anything related to your
storage.  Windows these days isn't happy with less than 4GB of ram, and if
you had less than that on that pc, it's no wonder it was slow, since
windows had to swap all the time.  I'd wager that if you upgraded the ram
in that machine, it would run considerably better.

On Sat, 22 Dec 2018, Tyler Wood wrote:

> What world is that in? lol. Unless you're referring to the surface pro 6,
> then it is about on parr with other laptops with solid state storage.
>
>
> I mean, unless you want to go with a 1 tb spinning hard drive and in 2018,
> that's a hard sell.
>
>
> I was using a computer recently that had a core i7-7820HQ (that's a quad core
> processor with 8 threads). It had a mechanical 1 terabyte hard drive, and it
> was made last year.
>
>
> Browsing the web was so much slower than on a machine with a solid state
> drive. It shouldn't be - after all the web browser was already loaded - but
> it was truly painful. Restarting was just about as painful, to. Even
> comparing this to a cheap windows device with a solid state drive - even EMMC
> storage - and I truthfully can't recommend a mechanical hard drive these
> days. And I'm not even getting into general performance. Moving around the
> screen was painfully slow. Opening apps took far longer than a machine with a
> hard drive, even 4 or 5 years ago, used to. I'm not sure if it was the screen
> reader making performance that much worse, but it was similar to using a
> computer, back in the day, that had 256 mb of ram and ran windows xp.
> Browsing the web, while doable, was probably my biggest issue.
>
>
> So, yes, while the surface go is relatively expensive when you increase the
> storage space, it comes with the benefit of having a solid state drive. In
> todays day and age, we think windows 10 is very light on resources. It most
> assuredly is not.
>


Re: Merry Christmas

molly the blind tech lover
 

That’s awesome. Merry Christmas.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 9:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

 

Merry Christmas to all of you. I asked for some AirPods and an Apple Watch. I am giving my mom a container shaped as a pyramid that I made in my ceramics class. 

Maria

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On Dec 23, 2018, at 7:37 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Thank you. One of my sisters taught me how to knit when we were kids.



On 12/23/2018 5:05 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

Hi.

That so cool that you know how to knit. I gave everyone gift certificates this year.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria

Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 7:55 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

 

Hi, Molly,

 

 

I'm really excited for Christmas too. I knitted dishcloths for everyone for Christmas this year. I usually give gift certificates but this year I thought I'd do something different.

 

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

On 12/23/2018 4:31 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

I'm so excited for Christmas!!!! Family, friends, delicious food. I miss my sister so much and can't wait to see her on Christmas.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie

Chavarria

Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 6:37 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

 

Happy and Merry Christmas from me to everyone on the list.

 

 

 

On 12/23/2018 3:21 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:

Happy Christmas to you as well, and to everyone on the list!

-Laurie

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On Sun, 12/23/18, Ján Kulik <jan.kulik.szsle@...> wrote:

 

   Subject: [nvda] Merry Christmas

   To: "nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io" <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>, "nvda-translations@groups.io" <nvda-translations@groups.io>, "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

   Date: Sunday, December 23, 2018, 12:28 PM

 

   Hi everione, happy merry Christmas 2018

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 




Re: Merry Christmas

molly the blind tech lover
 

My mom usually makes prime rib, but this year, in addition to the salmon we're also having sword fish (not sure if I'm spelling that correctly) I also can't wait for pumpkin bread and ice cream. Yum.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Keao Wright
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 9:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Sounds like fun!
I think every year we will have primerib, but not sure.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 3:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

I'm hoping for a google home hub this year. And to spend time with family and eat salmon and stuffed mushrooms and lots of sweets.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Keao Wright
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 7:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas all, can't wait.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 2:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Hi, Molly,


I'm really excited for Christmas too. I knitted dishcloths for everyone for Christmas this year. I usually give gift certificates but this year I thought I'd do something different.


Rosemarie



On 12/23/2018 4:31 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
I'm so excited for Christmas!!!! Family, friends, delicious food. I miss my sister so much and can't wait to see her on Christmas.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 6:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Happy and Merry Christmas from me to everyone on the list.



On 12/23/2018 3:21 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
Happy Christmas to you as well, and to everyone on the list!
-Laurie
--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 12/23/18, Ján Kulik <jan.kulik.szsle@outlook.sk> wrote:

Subject: [nvda] Merry Christmas
To: "nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io" <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>, "nvda-translations@groups.io" <nvda-translations@groups.io>, "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, December 23, 2018, 12:28 PM

Hi everione, happy merry Christmas 2018














Re: Merry Christmas

Cristóbal
 

Sounds like a fair trade…

 

Cristóbal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 6:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

 

Merry Christmas to all of you. I asked for some AirPods and an Apple Watch. I am giving my mom a container shaped as a pyramid that I made in my ceramics class. 

Maria

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On Dec 23, 2018, at 7:37 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Thank you. One of my sisters taught me how to knit when we were kids.



On 12/23/2018 5:05 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

Hi.

That so cool that you know how to knit. I gave everyone gift certificates this year.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria

Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 7:55 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

 

Hi, Molly,

 

 

I'm really excited for Christmas too. I knitted dishcloths for everyone for Christmas this year. I usually give gift certificates but this year I thought I'd do something different.

 

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

On 12/23/2018 4:31 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

I'm so excited for Christmas!!!! Family, friends, delicious food. I miss my sister so much and can't wait to see her on Christmas.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie

Chavarria

Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 6:37 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

 

Happy and Merry Christmas from me to everyone on the list.

 

 

 

On 12/23/2018 3:21 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:

Happy Christmas to you as well, and to everyone on the list!

-Laurie

--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 12/23/18, Ján Kulik <jan.kulik.szsle@...> wrote:

 

   Subject: [nvda] Merry Christmas

   To: "nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io" <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>, "nvda-translations@groups.io" <nvda-translations@groups.io>, "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

   Date: Sunday, December 23, 2018, 12:28 PM

 

   Hi everione, happy merry Christmas 2018

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 




Re: Merry Christmas

Keao Wright <keaow@...>
 

Sounds like fun!
I think every year we will have primerib, but not sure.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 3:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

I'm hoping for a google home hub this year. And to spend time with family and eat salmon and stuffed mushrooms and lots of sweets.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Keao Wright
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 7:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas all, can't wait.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 2:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Hi, Molly,


I'm really excited for Christmas too. I knitted dishcloths for everyone for Christmas this year. I usually give gift certificates but this year I thought I'd do something different.


Rosemarie



On 12/23/2018 4:31 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
I'm so excited for Christmas!!!! Family, friends, delicious food. I miss my sister so much and can't wait to see her on Christmas.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 6:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Happy and Merry Christmas from me to everyone on the list.



On 12/23/2018 3:21 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
Happy Christmas to you as well, and to everyone on the list!
-Laurie
--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 12/23/18, Ján Kulik <jan.kulik.szsle@outlook.sk> wrote:

Subject: [nvda] Merry Christmas
To: "nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io" <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>, "nvda-translations@groups.io" <nvda-translations@groups.io>, "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, December 23, 2018, 12:28 PM

Hi everione, happy merry Christmas 2018














Re: Merry Christmas

Maria Reyes <blindteky@...>
 

Merry Christmas to all of you. I asked for some AirPods and an Apple Watch. I am giving my mom a container shaped as a pyramid that I made in my ceramics class. 

Maria
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On Dec 23, 2018, at 7:37 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Thank you. One of my sisters taught me how to knit when we were kids.



On 12/23/2018 5:05 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
Hi.
That so cool that you know how to knit. I gave everyone gift certificates this year.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 7:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Hi, Molly,


I'm really excited for Christmas too. I knitted dishcloths for everyone for Christmas this year. I usually give gift certificates but this year I thought I'd do something different.


Rosemarie



On 12/23/2018 4:31 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
I'm so excited for Christmas!!!! Family, friends, delicious food. I miss my sister so much and can't wait to see her on Christmas.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 6:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Happy and Merry Christmas from me to everyone on the list.



On 12/23/2018 3:21 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
Happy Christmas to you as well, and to everyone on the list!
-Laurie
--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 12/23/18, Ján Kulik <jan.kulik.szsle@...> wrote:

   Subject: [nvda] Merry Christmas
   To: "nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io" <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>, "nvda-translations@groups.io" <nvda-translations@groups.io>, "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
   Date: Sunday, December 23, 2018, 12:28 PM

   Hi everione, happy merry Christmas 2018
























Re: Merry Christmas

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Thank you. One of my sisters taught me how to knit when we were kids.

On 12/23/2018 5:05 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
Hi.
That so cool that you know how to knit. I gave everyone gift certificates this year.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 7:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Hi, Molly,


I'm really excited for Christmas too. I knitted dishcloths for everyone for Christmas this year. I usually give gift certificates but this year I thought I'd do something different.


Rosemarie



On 12/23/2018 4:31 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
I'm so excited for Christmas!!!! Family, friends, delicious food. I miss my sister so much and can't wait to see her on Christmas.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 6:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Happy and Merry Christmas from me to everyone on the list.



On 12/23/2018 3:21 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
Happy Christmas to you as well, and to everyone on the list!
-Laurie
--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 12/23/18, Ján Kulik <jan.kulik.szsle@outlook.sk> wrote:

Subject: [nvda] Merry Christmas
To: "nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io" <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>, "nvda-translations@groups.io" <nvda-translations@groups.io>, "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, December 23, 2018, 12:28 PM

Hi everione, happy merry Christmas 2018
















Re: Merry Christmas

molly the blind tech lover
 

I'm hoping for a google home hub this year. And to spend time with family and eat salmon and stuffed mushrooms and lots of sweets.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Keao Wright
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 7:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas all, can't wait.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 2:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Hi, Molly,


I'm really excited for Christmas too. I knitted dishcloths for everyone for Christmas this year. I usually give gift certificates but this year I thought I'd do something different.


Rosemarie



On 12/23/2018 4:31 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
I'm so excited for Christmas!!!! Family, friends, delicious food. I miss my sister so much and can't wait to see her on Christmas.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 6:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Happy and Merry Christmas from me to everyone on the list.



On 12/23/2018 3:21 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
Happy Christmas to you as well, and to everyone on the list!
-Laurie
--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 12/23/18, Ján Kulik <jan.kulik.szsle@outlook.sk> wrote:

Subject: [nvda] Merry Christmas
To: "nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io" <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>, "nvda-translations@groups.io" <nvda-translations@groups.io>, "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, December 23, 2018, 12:28 PM

Hi everione, happy merry Christmas 2018














Re: Merry Christmas

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi.
That so cool that you know how to knit. I gave everyone gift certificates this year.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 7:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Hi, Molly,


I'm really excited for Christmas too. I knitted dishcloths for everyone for Christmas this year. I usually give gift certificates but this year I thought I'd do something different.


Rosemarie



On 12/23/2018 4:31 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
I'm so excited for Christmas!!!! Family, friends, delicious food. I miss my sister so much and can't wait to see her on Christmas.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 6:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Happy and Merry Christmas from me to everyone on the list.



On 12/23/2018 3:21 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
Happy Christmas to you as well, and to everyone on the list!
-Laurie
--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 12/23/18, Ján Kulik <jan.kulik.szsle@outlook.sk> wrote:

Subject: [nvda] Merry Christmas
To: "nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io" <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>, "nvda-translations@groups.io" <nvda-translations@groups.io>, "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, December 23, 2018, 12:28 PM

Hi everione, happy merry Christmas 2018














Re: Merry Christmas

Keao Wright <keaow@...>
 

Merry Christmas all, can't wait.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 2:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Hi, Molly,


I'm really excited for Christmas too. I knitted dishcloths for everyone for Christmas this year. I usually give gift certificates but this year I thought I'd do something different.


Rosemarie



On 12/23/2018 4:31 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
I'm so excited for Christmas!!!! Family, friends, delicious food. I miss my sister so much and can't wait to see her on Christmas.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 6:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Happy and Merry Christmas from me to everyone on the list.



On 12/23/2018 3:21 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
Happy Christmas to you as well, and to everyone on the list!
-Laurie
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On Sun, 12/23/18, Ján Kulik <jan.kulik.szsle@outlook.sk> wrote:

Subject: [nvda] Merry Christmas
To: "nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io" <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>, "nvda-translations@groups.io" <nvda-translations@groups.io>, "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, December 23, 2018, 12:28 PM

Hi everione, happy merry Christmas 2018














Re: Merry Christmas

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Molly,


I'm really excited for Christmas too. I knitted dishcloths for everyone for Christmas this year. I usually give gift certificates but this year I thought I'd do something different.


Rosemarie

On 12/23/2018 4:31 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
I'm so excited for Christmas!!!! Family, friends, delicious food. I miss my sister so much and can't wait to see her on Christmas.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 6:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Happy and Merry Christmas from me to everyone on the list.



On 12/23/2018 3:21 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
Happy Christmas to you as well, and to everyone on the list!
-Laurie
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On Sun, 12/23/18, Ján Kulik <jan.kulik.szsle@outlook.sk> wrote:

Subject: [nvda] Merry Christmas
To: "nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io" <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>, "nvda-translations@groups.io" <nvda-translations@groups.io>, "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, December 23, 2018, 12:28 PM
Hi everione, happy merry Christmas 2018






Re: Want to resume chkdsk

 

On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 06:41 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
On my ssd the check check disk in about45 minutes and it's a 1 tb hard drive.
It's either a:

            1.  Solid State Drive (SSD), which has no "platter parts" like #2 does.

            2.  Hard Disc Drive, which is spinning platters of magnetic media with read/write heads

            3.  Solid State Hybrid Drive, which has a very small SSD component paired with a conventional HDD - These are not all that popular and seem to be going away.

Doing a chkdsk on an SSD would be expected to be hugely faster than doing the same on either an HDD or SSHD.

A huge HDD that has not much actual storage space allocated will also go through a chkdsk much more rapidly than one packed to the gills with data.  And any unallocated space (as in a partition that's never been assigned a drive letter) will not be scanned at all.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: fore some reason nvda isn't talking when I'm using my keyboard

molly the blind tech lover
 

My surface lags slightly sometimes, but it’s no big deal. I’ll probably upgrade my surface next year. For now I love it… Most of the time.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 7:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] fore some reason nvda isn't talking when I'm using my keyboard

 

I can’t comment on the Surface and I don’t know why the computer you describe was so slow.  I am using a laptop at the moment, as I write this message which I bought in 2011.  It was a reasonably fast machine for its time but nothing out of the ordinary.  I can load Chrome using a blank home page in about three seconds.  The New York Times Home Page loads in

about three seconds.  I can load Windows Live Mail in slightly less than two seconds.

 

It takes about twentyy seconds to get to the login screen when booting and ten or fifteen seconds to get to the desktop when I press enter to log in. 

 

Computers using physical hard drives aren’t slow if they are reasonably fast machines.  And I’m using Windows 7, and many Windows 10 users say that Windows 10 is faster. 

 

And as I said, if I use sleep, I can resume from sleep in two or three seconds.  I just opened Wordpad.  It took about two seconds.  If I open word starter, it takes a good deal longer. It takes about ten seconds.  But after you open Word, you work with documents.  It should take no meanikngfully different time regardless of mechanical or solid state drive to edit a document.  

 

I’m not disputing that a SSD is faster.  I’m saying that for many users, I don’t think the faster time matters in any significant way.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 5:28 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] fore some reason nvda isn't talking when I'm using my keyboard

 

That sounds more like a memory issue than anything related to your
storage.  Windows these days isn't happy with less than 4GB of ram, and if
you had less than that on that pc, it's no wonder it was slow, since
windows had to swap all the time.  I'd wager that if you upgraded the ram
in that machine, it would run considerably better.

On Sat, 22 Dec 2018, Tyler Wood wrote:

> What world is that in? lol. Unless you're referring to the surface pro 6,
> then it is about on parr with other laptops with solid state storage.
>
>
> I mean, unless you want to go with a 1 tb spinning hard drive and in 2018,
> that's a hard sell.
>
>
> I was using a computer recently that had a core i7-7820HQ (that's a quad core
> processor with 8 threads). It had a mechanical 1 terabyte hard drive, and it
> was made last year.
>
>
> Browsing the web was so much slower than on a machine with a solid state
> drive. It shouldn't be - after all the web browser was already loaded - but
> it was truly painful. Restarting was just about as painful, to. Even
> comparing this to a cheap windows device with a solid state drive - even EMMC
> storage - and I truthfully can't recommend a mechanical hard drive these
> days. And I'm not even getting into general performance. Moving around the
> screen was painfully slow. Opening apps took far longer than a machine with a
> hard drive, even 4 or 5 years ago, used to. I'm not sure if it was the screen
> reader making performance that much worse, but it was similar to using a
> computer, back in the day, that had 256 mb of ram and ran windows xp.
> Browsing the web, while doable, was probably my biggest issue.
>
>
> So, yes, while the surface go is relatively expensive when you increase the
> storage space, it comes with the benefit of having a solid state drive. In
> todays day and age, we think windows 10 is very light on resources. It most
> assuredly is not.
>


Re: Merry Christmas

molly the blind tech lover
 

I'm so excited for Christmas!!!! Family, friends, delicious food. I miss my sister so much and can't wait to see her on Christmas.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 6:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Happy and Merry Christmas from me to everyone on the list.



On 12/23/2018 3:21 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
Happy Christmas to you as well, and to everyone on the list!
-Laurie
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On Sun, 12/23/18, Ján Kulik <jan.kulik.szsle@outlook.sk> wrote:

Subject: [nvda] Merry Christmas
To: "nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io" <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>, "nvda-translations@groups.io" <nvda-translations@groups.io>, "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, December 23, 2018, 12:28 PM

Hi everione, happy merry Christmas 2018










Re: Merry Christmas

molly the blind tech lover
 

Happy Christmas.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ján Kulik
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 3:29 PM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io; nvda-translations@groups.io; nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Hi everione, happy merry Christmas 2018


Re: fore some reason nvda isn't talking when I'm using my keyboard

Gene
 

I can’t comment on the Surface and I don’t know why the computer you describe was so slow.  I am using a laptop at the moment, as I write this message which I bought in 2011.  It was a reasonably fast machine for its time but nothing out of the ordinary.  I can load Chrome using a blank home page in about three seconds.  The New York Times Home Page loads in
about three seconds.  I can load Windows Live Mail in slightly less than two seconds.
 
It takes about twentyy seconds to get to the login screen when booting and ten or fifteen seconds to get to the desktop when I press enter to log in. 
 
Computers using physical hard drives aren’t slow if they are reasonably fast machines.  And I’m using Windows 7, and many Windows 10 users say that Windows 10 is faster. 
 
And as I said, if I use sleep, I can resume from sleep in two or three seconds.  I just opened Wordpad.  It took about two seconds.  If I open word starter, it takes a good deal longer. It takes about ten seconds.  But after you open Word, you work with documents.  It should take no meanikngfully different time regardless of mechanical or solid state drive to edit a document.  
 
I’m not disputing that a SSD is faster.  I’m saying that for many users, I don’t think the faster time matters in any significant way.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] fore some reason nvda isn't talking when I'm using my keyboard
 
That sounds more like a memory issue than anything related to your
storage.  Windows these days isn't happy with less than 4GB of ram, and if
you had less than that on that pc, it's no wonder it was slow, since
windows had to swap all the time.  I'd wager that if you upgraded the ram
in that machine, it would run considerably better.

On Sat, 22 Dec 2018, Tyler Wood wrote:

> What world is that in? lol. Unless you're referring to the surface pro 6,
> then it is about on parr with other laptops with solid state storage.
>
>
> I mean, unless you want to go with a 1 tb spinning hard drive and in 2018,
> that's a hard sell.
>
>
> I was using a computer recently that had a core i7-7820HQ (that's a quad core
> processor with 8 threads). It had a mechanical 1 terabyte hard drive, and it
> was made last year.
>
>
> Browsing the web was so much slower than on a machine with a solid state
> drive. It shouldn't be - after all the web browser was already loaded - but
> it was truly painful. Restarting was just about as painful, to. Even
> comparing this to a cheap windows device with a solid state drive - even EMMC
> storage - and I truthfully can't recommend a mechanical hard drive these
> days. And I'm not even getting into general performance. Moving around the
> screen was painfully slow. Opening apps took far longer than a machine with a
> hard drive, even 4 or 5 years ago, used to. I'm not sure if it was the screen
> reader making performance that much worse, but it was similar to using a
> computer, back in the day, that had 256 mb of ram and ran windows xp.
> Browsing the web, while doable, was probably my biggest issue.
>
>
> So, yes, while the surface go is relatively expensive when you increase the
> storage space, it comes with the benefit of having a solid state drive. In
> todays day and age, we think windows 10 is very light on resources. It most
> assuredly is not.
>



Re: Merry Christmas

 

Merry Christmas and happy new year to everyone on this list!
Em 23/12/2018 21:37, Rosemarie Chavarria escreveu:

Happy and Merry Christmas from me to everyone on the list.



On 12/23/2018 3:21 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
Happy Christmas to you as well, and to everyone on the list!
-Laurie
--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 12/23/18, Ján Kulik <jan.kulik.szsle@...> wrote:

  Subject: [nvda] Merry Christmas
  To: "nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io" <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>, "nvda-translations@groups.io" <nvda-translations@groups.io>, "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
  Date: Sunday, December 23, 2018, 12:28 PM
    Hi everione, happy merry Christmas 2018
             








Re: Want to resume chkdsk

Sarah k Alawami
 

On my ssd the check check disk in about45 minutes and it's a 1 tb hard drive. Man that thing is fast when it wants to be. No there is no way to resume. Just let it run over night.

Take care

On 23 Dec 2018, at 10:40, farhan israk wrote:

Thank you. My computer doesn't have any issue. I want to check my harddisk has bad sector or not. Capacity of drives are so high that I can't complete in 3-4 hours.


On Sun, 23 Dec 2018, 5:09 pm Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io wrote:
As far as I know you have to let it go to the end as it restarts again after
a new start unless there are hidden files which tell it otherwise, but that
would be a security issue I'd have thought.
 Also be aware that if any software has changed any of the files it scans to
ones modified, the old ones will be put back and this will mean those
programs will have to be reinstalled again. that has my experience even on
windows 7.
 What exactly is the issue you are trying to fix?
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "farhan israk" <fahim.net.2014@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 5:08 AM
Subject: [nvda] Want to resume chkdsk


>I use Windows 10 1803. Is it possible to pause chkdsk, shut down computer
> and resume after turning on computer?
>
>
>
>