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NVDA and photo viewer on facebook

Dejan Ristic
 

Hi,


When I open the photo viewer on FB to view images, I'm no longer able to find 'Previous' and 'Next' buttons to go backward and/or forward to view images. When the new facebook look was made public it worked for me smoothly.


The other buttons (close, tag friends, exit fullscreen) work correctly


When I happen to press F5 to reload the page while in the photo viewer area, NVDA reads the missing buttons, which implies that they exist somewhere on the screen, but I'm unable to find them when arrowing and/or tabbing neither in browse nor in focus mode.


I use Google Chrome and NVDA being latest stable.


As for facebook, I use the standard one (www.facebook.com).


Cheers,

Dejan


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Re: Thunderbird will become a webbased application - What about accessibility?

William
 

Oh, I am sad about this news.


Christian Schoepplein 於 8/2/2021 18:37 寫道:

Hi,

regarding to a presentation at FOSDEM 2021 it is planed to make Thunderbird more and more a webbased application based on Electron.

I wonder what that means regarding to accessibility in Thunderbird in general and what other free graphical mailer will be available for Windows if Thunderbird might become inaccessible or at least very inefficient regarding to useability when it is a full webbased program.

Is anyone in touch with the Thunderbird developers and can find out more about their plans and how much they will have accessibility in mind?

I fear they do not care much about accessibility, so the next question is what can we do to bring this isue more into the public?

It would be really sad to loose the only really free and good to use graphical mailer for Windows. AFAIK there are not much alternatives left then, which is a real shame for such a central and important form of communication for blind people, especialy in this very challenging times :-(.

Cheers,

  Schoepp




Thunderbird will become a webbased application - What about accessibility?

Christian Schoepplein
 

Hi,

regarding to a presentation at FOSDEM 2021 it is planed to make Thunderbird more and more a webbased application based on Electron.

I wonder what that means regarding to accessibility in Thunderbird in general and what other free graphical mailer will be available for Windows if Thunderbird might become inaccessible or at least very inefficient regarding to useability when it is a full webbased program.

Is anyone in touch with the Thunderbird developers and can find out more about their plans and how much they will have accessibility in mind?

I fear they do not care much about accessibility, so the next question is what can we do to bring this isue more into the public?

It would be really sad to loose the only really free and good to use graphical mailer for Windows. AFAIK there are not much alternatives left then, which is a real shame for such a central and important form of communication for blind people, especialy in this very challenging times :-(.

Cheers,

Schoepp


Re: When will the next NVDA be released?

Quentin Christensen
 

And just to reply to the original questions - it has been awhile between releases - partly because we didn't want to rush things over Christmas, so that delayed things, and also there were a couple of niggly bugs we wanted to fix with languages before going to the final release - we'd alway rather push back a release and put out something which is stable, than push out something just to meet an arbitrary deadline.  The suggestion to follow In-process is definitely worthwhile to keep up to date with what we're up to: https://www.nvaccess.org/category/in-process/

As noted, the release candidate came out today, and you can read more and download it here: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-4rc1/

Unless anyone finds any major issues with it, then the final NVDA 2020.4 should be out within the next couple of weeks.

Oh, and yes our finances are sound, we're not about to disappear anytime soon :)  Thank you for your interest, and for your donation, it is very much appreciated!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 8:22 PM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I should add that I'm not using recent versions.  I wrote my comment because
I couldn't tell where you were looking.  But my guess is that it isn't there
since you used it in the past.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 3:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] When will the next NVDA be released?

Where are you looking?  Check for updates isn't on the main menu.  Its where
such things usually are, in the help submenu.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: John J. Boyer
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 2:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] When will the next NVDA be released?

Hello,

It's been a long time since there was an official release of NVDA that is
available with the Check for Updates on the NVDA menu. Is there a problem?
Is nv-access short of funds? I made a donation recently.

Thanks,
John

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Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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NVDA 2020.4 Release Candidate now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone

NVDA 2020.4rc1 has been released. This is a release candidate, and unless any critical issues are found, this will be identical to the 2020.4 release.

Highlights and download links can be found in the release blog post at: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-4rc1/

We encourage ALL users to download and install this release candidate, and if you do encounter any issues, please do let us know.

Kind regards

Quentin.
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Training and Support Manager


Re: When will the next NVDA be released?

Gene
 

I should add that I'm not using recent versions. I wrote my comment because I couldn't tell where you were looking. But my guess is that it isn't there since you used it in the past.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 3:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] When will the next NVDA be released?

Where are you looking? Check for updates isn't on the main menu. Its where
such things usually are, in the help submenu.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: John J. Boyer
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 2:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] When will the next NVDA be released?

Hello,

It's been a long time since there was an official release of NVDA that is
available with the Check for Updates on the NVDA menu. Is there a problem?
Is nv-access short of funds? I made a donation recently.

Thanks,
John

--
John J. Boyer
Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live.
Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM
services
that are available at no cost


Re: When will the next NVDA be released?

Gene
 

Where are you looking? Check for updates isn't on the main menu. Its where such things usually are, in the help submenu.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: John J. Boyer
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 2:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] When will the next NVDA be released?

Hello,

It's been a long time since there was an official release of NVDA that is available with the Check for Updates on the NVDA menu. Is there a problem?
Is nv-access short of funds? I made a donation recently.

Thanks,
John

--
John J. Boyer
Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live.
Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services
that are available at no cost


Re: When will the next NVDA be released?

mcLeod stinnett
 

--
from mack they have a monthly update called in process. it doesn't take long to read and it keeps readers informed of the next release progress. when everyone gets the email that says "in process is out" be sure and read it.


Re: When will the next NVDA be released?

zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz
 

Btw, the RC version was released today, and unless any critical bugs are
found, this will be identical to the final one.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 9:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] When will the next NVDA be released?

Hello,

It's been a long time since there was an official release of NVDA that is
available with the Check for Updates on the NVDA menu. Is there a problem?
Is nv-access short of funds? I made a donation recently.

Thanks,
John

--
John J. Boyer
Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live.
Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM
services
that are available at no cost


Re: When will the next NVDA be released?

zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz
 

Hi,
Recently was a string freeze, and it's in the release stage.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 9:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] When will the next NVDA be released?

Hello,

It's been a long time since there was an official release of NVDA that is
available with the Check for Updates on the NVDA menu. Is there a problem?
Is nv-access short of funds? I made a donation recently.

Thanks,
John

--
John J. Boyer
Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live.
Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM
services
that are available at no cost


When will the next NVDA be released?

John J. Boyer
 

Hello,

It's been a long time since there was an official release of NVDA that is available with the Check for Updates on the NVDA menu. Is there a problem?
Is nv-access short of funds? I made a donation recently.

Thanks,
John

--
John J. Boyer
Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live.
Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services
that are available at no cost


Mozilla Apps Enhancements addon

Eilana Benish
 

Mozilla Apps Enhancements

Hello everyone

lately when I am trying to use Mozilla Apps Enhancements addon with Mozilla Thunderbird

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html

The keyboard shortcut for opening menu options for a contact is not working

out of list  • In a message window:

list  with 4 items  • Control+Shift+(1-4) Reads the sender and recipients of the message. If pressed twice quickly, opens the options menu.

Am I missing something or this is an you issue that needs to be fixed

Thanks in advance


Eilana



Tech VB podcast: In-depth interview with NVDA contributor Joseph Lee

 

Hello NVDA community,

As we await NVDA 2020.4, I figured the following podcast would be educational for many of you:

I sat down with Vytautus from Tech VB for an in-depth interview about NVDA, add-ons, accessibility advocacy and many topics. The resulting podcast (about two hours in length) is now available for your enjoyment:

In-depth interview with NVDA contributor Joseph Lee, We talked about Screen readers, Education, and everything else accessibility related – techvb.net

 

Thanks to Vytautus from Tech VB for inviting me for this interview, and of course, special shout-out to Nv Access people for making NVDA possible and add-on authors for opening up possibilities for thousands. If you have any questions, comments, or concerns, feel free to reach out to me privately (not on NVDA users group please).

Cheers,

Joseph


BrowserNav Add-on Beeping

Richard Wells
 

Earlier, I reported that I was getting beeping on web pages as I
navigate on them. I disabled BrowserNav as someone suggested and the
problem went away. So far, I have not found anything that looks like a
toggle for this preference. I love the add-on and will accept the
side-effect of using it, but I would love to see a feature that would
allow me to disable this behavior in the future. Thanks for all the
feedback I got on this.


Re: A quick question about NVDA certification

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

That's true.

On 2/7/2021 12:27 PM, Gene wrote:
Neither does Start Page.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2021 1:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification



Duckduckgo is really good too because they don't track you.







On 2/7/2021 10:00 AM, Monte Single wrote:


I have not refined my searchskills much, but I have found that using startpage instead of google cuts out a lot of garbage and I usually find what I need in the first half dozen links.





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: February 7, 2021 11:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification





On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 10:00 AM, Gene wrote:



It is unfortunate that so many people are unaware of the power and value of Google searches or other good search engine searches.



-
Amen to that!

I have preached, repeatedly, that knowing how to do a web search, in 2021, is a basic skill, and if you don't have it then acquiring it is one of the first things you should be trying to do.

And the range of search operators for any search engine is wide (and not often necessary to deal with, I might add) and allows you to drill through a world of data with almost laser-like focus.

One of the operators I do use with some frequency, and which applies here, is the site: operator.  While, like any search term, it can be stuck anywhere in a list of search criteria I generally place it either at the beginning or the end.  If you only wanted to search for something at NVAccess then adding the search term site:nvaccess.org (no spaces, just the word site, the colon, and the website sans any need for http://)/ and you will be searching only that website for content.  You can even get more specific, such that if you only wanted to search the News portion of the NVAccess site, you would put, site:nvaccess.org/news.

That one operator, when you know that you only want content from a single website or some sub-segment of that site, will eliminate possibly hundreds of thousands of extraneous results.

Google has a great Advanced Search page, with fillable edit boxes/dropdowns, that tells you (if it's accessible) right after all of those fill-in boxes how you can do the same thing in a regular Google Search using operators, as most of us will never come close to combining all of the potential advanced options on the Advanced Search page.  There are also more tutorials that you can shake a stick at regarding Google Search operators and how to use them.


Re: A quick question about NVDA certification

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

It has Donald Duck--hahahahahahaha. Couldn't resist that one.



On 2/7/2021 12:57 PM, Monte Single wrote:

 

 

Duckduckgo!Does it come with cartoons?

Sorry,

 

Monte

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: February 7, 2021 1:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification

 

Duckduckgo is really good too because they don't track you.

 

 

On 2/7/2021 10:00 AM, Monte Single wrote:

I have not refined my searchskills much, but I have found that using startpage instead of google cuts out a lot of garbage and I usually find what I need in the first half dozen links.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: February 7, 2021 11:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification

 

On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 10:00 AM, Gene wrote:

It is unfortunate that so many people are unaware of the power and value of Google searches or other good search engine searches.

-
Amen to that!

I have preached, repeatedly, that knowing how to do a web search, in 2021, is a basic skill, and if you don't have it then acquiring it is one of the first things you should be trying to do.

And the range of search operators for any search engine is wide (and not often necessary to deal with, I might add) and allows you to drill through a world of data with almost laser-like focus.

One of the operators I do use with some frequency, and which applies here, is the site: operator.  While, like any search term, it can be stuck anywhere in a list of search criteria I generally place it either at the beginning or the end.  If you only wanted to search for something at NVAccess then adding the search term site:nvaccess.org (no spaces, just the word site, the colon, and the website sans any need for http://) and you will be searching only that website for content.  You can even get more specific, such that if you only wanted to search the News portion of the NVAccess site, you would put, site:nvaccess.org/news.

That one operator, when you know that you only want content from a single website or some sub-segment of that site, will eliminate possibly hundreds of thousands of extraneous results.

Google has a great Advanced Search page, with fillable edit boxes/dropdowns, that tells you (if it's accessible) right after all of those fill-in boxes how you can do the same thing in a regular Google Search using operators, as most of us will never come close to combining all of the potential advanced options on the Advanced Search page.  There are also more tutorials that you can shake a stick at regarding Google Search operators and how to use them.
 
--

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The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

       ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: A quick question about NVDA certification

Monte Single
 

 

 

Duckduckgo!Does it come with cartoons?

Sorry,

 

Monte

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: February 7, 2021 1:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification

 

Duckduckgo is really good too because they don't track you.

 

 

On 2/7/2021 10:00 AM, Monte Single wrote:

I have not refined my searchskills much, but I have found that using startpage instead of google cuts out a lot of garbage and I usually find what I need in the first half dozen links.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: February 7, 2021 11:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification

 

On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 10:00 AM, Gene wrote:

It is unfortunate that so many people are unaware of the power and value of Google searches or other good search engine searches.

-
Amen to that!

I have preached, repeatedly, that knowing how to do a web search, in 2021, is a basic skill, and if you don't have it then acquiring it is one of the first things you should be trying to do.

And the range of search operators for any search engine is wide (and not often necessary to deal with, I might add) and allows you to drill through a world of data with almost laser-like focus.

One of the operators I do use with some frequency, and which applies here, is the site: operator.  While, like any search term, it can be stuck anywhere in a list of search criteria I generally place it either at the beginning or the end.  If you only wanted to search for something at NVAccess then adding the search term site:nvaccess.org (no spaces, just the word site, the colon, and the website sans any need for http://) and you will be searching only that website for content.  You can even get more specific, such that if you only wanted to search the News portion of the NVAccess site, you would put, site:nvaccess.org/news.

That one operator, when you know that you only want content from a single website or some sub-segment of that site, will eliminate possibly hundreds of thousands of extraneous results.

Google has a great Advanced Search page, with fillable edit boxes/dropdowns, that tells you (if it's accessible) right after all of those fill-in boxes how you can do the same thing in a regular Google Search using operators, as most of us will never come close to combining all of the potential advanced options on the Advanced Search page.  There are also more tutorials that you can shake a stick at regarding Google Search operators and how to use them.
 
--

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The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

       ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: A quick question about NVDA certification

Gene
 

I was thinking about different search engines and an important advantage may be that Start Page and Duck Duck go (spelling), since they don't track you, may not try to tailor results. You may get a broader representation of results that don't trap you in an information bubble. If you research a political subject, for example, you may see more sites with more differing opinions.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2021 2:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification

Neither does Start Page.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2021 1:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification



Duckduckgo is really good too because they don't track you.







On 2/7/2021 10:00 AM, Monte Single wrote:


I have not refined my searchskills much, but I have found that using
startpage instead of google cuts out a lot of garbage and I usually find
what I need in the first half dozen links.





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Brian
Vogel
Sent: February 7, 2021 11:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification





On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 10:00 AM, Gene wrote:



It is unfortunate that so many people are unaware of the power and value of
Google searches or other good search engine searches.



-
Amen to that!

I have preached, repeatedly, that knowing how to do a web search, in 2021,
is a basic skill, and if you don't have it then acquiring it is one of the
first things you should be trying to do.

And the range of search operators for any search engine is wide (and not
often necessary to deal with, I might add) and allows you to drill through a
world of data with almost laser-like focus.

One of the operators I do use with some frequency, and which applies here,
is the site: operator. While, like any search term, it can be stuck
anywhere in a list of search criteria I generally place it either at the
beginning or the end. If you only wanted to search for something at
NVAccess then adding the search term site:nvaccess.org (no spaces, just the
word site, the colon, and the website sans any need for http://)/ and you
will be searching only that website for content. You can even get more
specific, such that if you only wanted to search the News portion of the
NVAccess site, you would put, site:nvaccess.org/news.

That one operator, when you know that you only want content from a single
website or some sub-segment of that site, will eliminate possibly hundreds
of thousands of extraneous results.

Google has a great Advanced Search page, with fillable edit boxes/dropdowns,
that tells you (if it's accessible) right after all of those fill-in boxes
how you can do the same thing in a regular Google Search using operators, as
most of us will never come close to combining all of the potential advanced
options on the Advanced Search page. There are also more tutorials that you
can shake a stick at regarding Google Search operators and how to use them.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval
can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

~ Brian Vogel


Re: A quick question about NVDA certification

Gene
 

Neither does Start Page.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2021 1:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification



Duckduckgo is really good too because they don't track you.







On 2/7/2021 10:00 AM, Monte Single wrote:


I have not refined my searchskills much, but I have found that using startpage instead of google cuts out a lot of garbage and I usually find what I need in the first half dozen links.





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: February 7, 2021 11:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification





On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 10:00 AM, Gene wrote:



It is unfortunate that so many people are unaware of the power and value of Google searches or other good search engine searches.



-
Amen to that!

I have preached, repeatedly, that knowing how to do a web search, in 2021, is a basic skill, and if you don't have it then acquiring it is one of the first things you should be trying to do.

And the range of search operators for any search engine is wide (and not often necessary to deal with, I might add) and allows you to drill through a world of data with almost laser-like focus.

One of the operators I do use with some frequency, and which applies here, is the site: operator. While, like any search term, it can be stuck anywhere in a list of search criteria I generally place it either at the beginning or the end. If you only wanted to search for something at NVAccess then adding the search term site:nvaccess.org (no spaces, just the word site, the colon, and the website sans any need for http://)/ and you will be searching only that website for content. You can even get more specific, such that if you only wanted to search the News portion of the NVAccess site, you would put, site:nvaccess.org/news.

That one operator, when you know that you only want content from a single website or some sub-segment of that site, will eliminate possibly hundreds of thousands of extraneous results.

Google has a great Advanced Search page, with fillable edit boxes/dropdowns, that tells you (if it's accessible) right after all of those fill-in boxes how you can do the same thing in a regular Google Search using operators, as most of us will never come close to combining all of the potential advanced options on the Advanced Search page. There are also more tutorials that you can shake a stick at regarding Google Search operators and how to use them.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

~ Brian Vogel


Re: A quick question about NVDA certification

Gene
 

I haven't used Start Page enough to compare in many ways. I know that Start Page uses Google for its searches and that it doesn't track you. What I don't know is if there are features or abilities Google has that Start Page doesn't. for example, Google is very good at correcting spellings which makes searching very convenient. Sometimes, a spell checker won't know what I'm misspelling, but Google does. If a spell checker offers no suggestions, I may check the word on Google. The same with proper names I want to know how to spell.

Also, Google has very convenient features like web snippets and people also ask.

I don't search when I'm signed into Google because it makes it less likely Google will know who is searching, in terms of my identity.

I don't see a serious problem with what you are calling garbage. I simply use h from the top of the page and quickly go down to web results, if that's what I want to look at, which is a heading. From there, I continue by heading.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2021 12:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification



, I find Start page is just as good as google. You don’t get advertising. I prefer start page as my search engine. I tell everybody Iknow I is a good search engine.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Brian Vogel
Sent: February 7, 2021 8:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification





On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 10:00 AM, Gene wrote:



It is unfortunate that so many people are unaware of the power and value of Google searches or other good search engine searches.



-
Amen to that!

I have preached, repeatedly, that knowing how to do a web search, in 2021, is a basic skill, and if you don't have it then acquiring it is one of the first things you should be trying to do.

And the range of search operators for any search engine is wide (and not often necessary to deal with, I might add) and allows you to drill through a world of data with almost laser-like focus.

One of the operators I do use with some frequency, and which applies here, is the site: operator. While, like any search term, it can be stuck anywhere in a list of search criteria I generally place it either at the beginning or the end. If you only wanted to search for something at NVAccess then adding the search term site:nvaccess.org (no spaces, just the word site, the colon, and the website sans any need for http://)/ and you will be searching only that website for content. You can even get more specific, such that if you only wanted to search the News portion of the NVAccess site, you would put, site:nvaccess.org/news.

That one operator, when you know that you only want content from a single website or some sub-segment of that site, will eliminate possibly hundreds of thousands of extraneous results.

Google has a great Advanced Search page, with fillable edit boxes/dropdowns, that tells you (if it's accessible) right after all of those fill-in boxes how you can do the same thing in a regular Google Search using operators, as most of us will never come close to combining all of the potential advanced options on the Advanced Search page. There are also more tutorials that you can shake a stick at regarding Google Search operators and how to use them.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

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