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. . . the presumption of innocence, while essential in the legal realm, does not mean the elimination of common sense outside it.  The willing suspension of disbelief has its limits, or should.

 

    ~ Ruth Marcus,  November 10, 2017, in Washington Post article, Bannon is right: It’s no coincidence The Post broke the Moore story

 

 


Re: NVDA 2020.2 and Word Track Changes

Sandra Pilz
 

Hi Sarah,


No, I didn't file this on gidhub, I'm not familiar with the site.

Regards


Sandra



Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 03.08.2020 um 18:38 schrieb Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...>:



Did you bug this on the github page? If so can you provide the link?

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On 3 Aug 2020, at 9:34, Sandra Pilz wrote:

Hi Sylvie,

Thank you for trying it. Probably we can assume that it's a new bug in the current version of NVDA. 

Thanks for confirmming. 

Regards

Sandra


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 03.08.2020 um 16:55 schrieb Sylvie Duchateau <sduchateau@...>:



Hello Sandra and all,

I use Office 365 in French with NVDA 2020.2.

I tested what you describe on a word document with track changes enabled.

I noticed the same as you mentioned:

While typing a to jump to the next change, everything is ok.

However, going backwards with shift+a jumps to the first change and does not go to all others.

I tested the same document with nvda 2019.2 and 2019.3, and the shortcut works properly.

I can’t explain what the problem is.

Best

Sylvie

De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Sandra Pilz via groups.io
Envoyé : lundi 3 août 2020 14:27
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : [nvda] NVDA 2020.2 and Word Track Changes

 

Hi,

 

I am using the current version of NVDA, 2020.2. When I am in a word document with track changes enabled, I can go to reading mode and press a to go to the next change and again to the next change and so on. However, I can't move to the previous change. When I press shift+a, NVDA will tell me no changes were found, although it took me through them when I went forward using just a.

 

I am using Office 365. Also, I'm using a German version of NVDA, so I don't know if the key to cycle through changes is different in the English version. However, A is the correct key in my version.

 

Can I do something to solve this, or is this a new bug?

 

 

Regards

 

Sandra

 


Re: NVDA 2020.2 and Word Track Changes

Sarah k Alawami
 

Did you bug this on the github page? If so can you provide the link?

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Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 3 Aug 2020, at 9:34, Sandra Pilz wrote:

Hi Sylvie,

Thank you for trying it. Probably we can assume that it's a new bug in the current version of NVDA. 

Thanks for confirmming. 

Regards

Sandra


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 03.08.2020 um 16:55 schrieb Sylvie Duchateau <sduchateau@...>:



Hello Sandra and all,

I use Office 365 in French with NVDA 2020.2.

I tested what you describe on a word document with track changes enabled.

I noticed the same as you mentioned:

While typing a to jump to the next change, everything is ok.

However, going backwards with shift+a jumps to the first change and does not go to all others.

I tested the same document with nvda 2019.2 and 2019.3, and the shortcut works properly.

I can’t explain what the problem is.

Best

Sylvie

De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Sandra Pilz via groups.io
Envoyé : lundi 3 août 2020 14:27
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : [nvda] NVDA 2020.2 and Word Track Changes

 

Hi,

 

I am using the current version of NVDA, 2020.2. When I am in a word document with track changes enabled, I can go to reading mode and press a to go to the next change and again to the next change and so on. However, I can't move to the previous change. When I press shift+a, NVDA will tell me no changes were found, although it took me through them when I went forward using just a.

 

I am using Office 365. Also, I'm using a German version of NVDA, so I don't know if the key to cycle through changes is different in the English version. However, A is the correct key in my version.

 

Can I do something to solve this, or is this a new bug?

 

 

Regards

 

Sandra

 


Kindle for pc support.

ChrisLeo
 

Hi.
I've just installed kindle 1.29.58 last version for Pc, it seems that
the support indicated in the NVDA user guide is no longer valid ...
Do you know the latest supported version of Kindle?

Thanks,

--
Chris.


Re: NVDA 2020.2 and Word Track Changes

Sandra Pilz
 

Hi Sylvie,

Thank you for trying it. Probably we can assume that it's a new bug in the current version of NVDA. 

Thanks for confirmming. 

Regards

Sandra


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 03.08.2020 um 16:55 schrieb Sylvie Duchateau <sduchateau@...>:



Hello Sandra and all,

I use Office 365 in French with NVDA 2020.2.

I tested what you describe on a word document with track changes enabled.

I noticed the same as you mentioned:

While typing a to jump to the next change, everything is ok.

However, going backwards with shift+a jumps to the first change and does not go to all others.

I tested the same document with nvda 2019.2 and 2019.3, and the shortcut works properly.

I can’t explain what the problem is.

Best

Sylvie

De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Sandra Pilz via groups.io
Envoyé : lundi 3 août 2020 14:27
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : [nvda] NVDA 2020.2 and Word Track Changes

 

Hi,

 

I am using the current version of NVDA, 2020.2. When I am in a word document with track changes enabled, I can go to reading mode and press a to go to the next change and again to the next change and so on. However, I can't move to the previous change. When I press shift+a, NVDA will tell me no changes were found, although it took me through them when I went forward using just a.

 

I am using Office 365. Also, I'm using a German version of NVDA, so I don't know if the key to cycle through changes is different in the English version. However, A is the correct key in my version.

 

Can I do something to solve this, or is this a new bug?

 

 

Regards

 

Sandra

 


Re: New Book Available on Browsing the Web with Screen Reader Programs

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, David,


Will National Braille Press have this book?


Rosemarie



On 8/3/2020 8:25 AM, David Kingsbury wrote:

Hi all,

 

Below is the description of a book I just wrote. It can be purchased for $20 at:

https://carroll.org/product/when-one-web-browser-is-not-enough/

 

When One Web Browser Is Not Enough: A Guide for Windows Screen Reader Users

In just the last few years, more web browsers have become accessible, and screen reader users can greatly benefit by becoming familiar with multiple browsers. Websites are complex animals. When things go wrong with one browser, your first line of defense is often to switch browsers. Each browser has strengths and weaknesses, so you can pick and choose features among them to get the best browsing experience. And once you are comfortable with one browser, it’s not hard to pick up the basics of the others.

 

When One Web Browser Is Not Enough: A Guide for Windows Screen Reader Users by David Kingsbury, Assistive Technology Instructor at the Carroll Center for the Blind, is meant to help JAWS, NVDA, and Windows Narrator users to effectively use the four leading web browsers – Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox, Internet Explorer, and Microsoft Edge – in ways that build on the strengths of each of them. Topics covered include: recent trends in web browser and screen reader usage; web accessibility criteria; screen reader keystrokes and strategies for efficiently accessing and navigating websites; browser menu structure; useful web browser features and commands; and JAWS, NVDA and Narrator customizations. Two appendices – a list of keystrokes and a glossary of Internet terms – are included for convenient reference.


New Book Available on Browsing the Web with Screen Reader Programs

David Kingsbury
 

Hi all,

 

Below is the description of a book I just wrote. It can be purchased for $20 at:

https://carroll.org/product/when-one-web-browser-is-not-enough/

 

When One Web Browser Is Not Enough: A Guide for Windows Screen Reader Users

In just the last few years, more web browsers have become accessible, and screen reader users can greatly benefit by becoming familiar with multiple browsers. Websites are complex animals. When things go wrong with one browser, your first line of defense is often to switch browsers. Each browser has strengths and weaknesses, so you can pick and choose features among them to get the best browsing experience. And once you are comfortable with one browser, it’s not hard to pick up the basics of the others.

 

When One Web Browser Is Not Enough: A Guide for Windows Screen Reader Users by David Kingsbury, Assistive Technology Instructor at the Carroll Center for the Blind, is meant to help JAWS, NVDA, and Windows Narrator users to effectively use the four leading web browsers – Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox, Internet Explorer, and Microsoft Edge – in ways that build on the strengths of each of them. Topics covered include: recent trends in web browser and screen reader usage; web accessibility criteria; screen reader keystrokes and strategies for efficiently accessing and navigating websites; browser menu structure; useful web browser features and commands; and JAWS, NVDA and Narrator customizations. Two appendices – a list of keystrokes and a glossary of Internet terms – are included for convenient reference.


Re: NVDA 2020.2 and Word Track Changes

Sylvie Duchateau
 

Hello Sandra and all,

I use Office 365 in French with NVDA 2020.2.

I tested what you describe on a word document with track changes enabled.

I noticed the same as you mentioned:

While typing a to jump to the next change, everything is ok.

However, going backwards with shift+a jumps to the first change and does not go to all others.

I tested the same document with nvda 2019.2 and 2019.3, and the shortcut works properly.

I can’t explain what the problem is.

Best

Sylvie

De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Sandra Pilz via groups.io
Envoyé : lundi 3 août 2020 14:27
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : [nvda] NVDA 2020.2 and Word Track Changes

 

Hi,

 

I am using the current version of NVDA, 2020.2. When I am in a word document with track changes enabled, I can go to reading mode and press a to go to the next change and again to the next change and so on. However, I can't move to the previous change. When I press shift+a, NVDA will tell me no changes were found, although it took me through them when I went forward using just a.

 

I am using Office 365. Also, I'm using a German version of NVDA, so I don't know if the key to cycle through changes is different in the English version. However, A is the correct key in my version.

 

Can I do something to solve this, or is this a new bug?

 

 

Regards

 

Sandra

 


Re: reading an article.

 

And for anyone who might find themselves in the situation where they are having to use the keyboard layout to which they are not accustomed, and you need to find the NVDA shortcut for anything, NVDA+N,H,Q, will bring up the Commands Quick Reference in your default web browser so you can look it up.

I can't say how many times I've used this to look up something I very seldom use, or when faced with laptop keyboard layout since I'm a desktop layout user by default.
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. . . the presumption of innocence, while essential in the legal realm, does not mean the elimination of common sense outside it.  The willing suspension of disbelief has its limits, or should.

 

    ~ Ruth Marcus,  November 10, 2017, in Washington Post article, Bannon is right: It’s no coincidence The Post broke the Moore story

 

 


Re: reading an article.

CJ
 



Hi,

thank you for your suggestions. I will give this a go. My thanks for your time.


My regards, CJ.

On 03/08/2020 13:57, Dan Beaver wrote:

Sorry, I haven't followed this entire thread but there is a way to start from a given point and read to the end using a laptop keyboard layout.  Just focus on where you want to start and then do a NVDA+A. 


I hope this is what you needed.


Dan Beaver

On 8/3/2020 4:20 AM, benmoxey@... wrote:

Hi CJ

 

You may have your keyboard set to Laptop mode. Insert + Down Arrow only reads to the end in Desktop mode.

 

Press NVDA + Control + K to load the keyboard settings and ensure it’s set to “Desktop” if this is the problem.

 

All the best.

 

Ben

-- 
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Re: NVDA and language support

Devin Prater
 

This depends on ESpeak-NG, for speech, and LibLouis, for braille.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.prater@...

Https://devinprater.github.io

On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:04 AM, Chelsea <Lady.arwen15@...> wrote:

Hello,

I apologize if this is a re-post.

I received a job fair email that highlighted several languages. They
are: Balochi, Chinese/Mandarin, Dari, Farsi, Hindi, Kazakh, Kyrgyz,
Pashto, Persian,
Punjabi, Russian, Somali, Swahili, Tajik, Turkish, Urdu, Uzbek

When looking through NVDA's speech and Braille settings, I see that
some of these languages have speech support only, and some only have
Braille support. Some have both.

Are there plans to expand language support even further in the future?

Thank you from a curious user,
Chelsea



NVDA and language support

Chelsea
 

Hello,

I apologize if this is a re-post.

I received a job fair email that highlighted several languages. They
are: Balochi, Chinese/Mandarin, Dari, Farsi, Hindi, Kazakh, Kyrgyz,
Pashto, Persian,
Punjabi, Russian, Somali, Swahili, Tajik, Turkish, Urdu, Uzbek

When looking through NVDA's speech and Braille settings, I see that
some of these languages have speech support only, and some only have
Braille support. Some have both.

Are there plans to expand language support even further in the future?

Thank you from a curious user,
Chelsea


Re: reading an article.

Dan Beaver
 

Sorry, I haven't followed this entire thread but there is a way to start from a given point and read to the end using a laptop keyboard layout.  Just focus on where you want to start and then do a NVDA+A. 


I hope this is what you needed.


Dan Beaver

On 8/3/2020 4:20 AM, benmoxey@... wrote:

Hi CJ

 

You may have your keyboard set to Laptop mode. Insert + Down Arrow only reads to the end in Desktop mode.

 

Press NVDA + Control + K to load the keyboard settings and ensure it’s set to “Desktop” if this is the problem.

 

All the best.

 

Ben

-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


Re: reading an article.

benmoxey@...
 

Hi CJ

 

You may have your keyboard set to Laptop mode. Insert + Down Arrow only reads to the end in Desktop mode.

 

Press NVDA + Control + K to load the keyboard settings and ensure it’s set to “Desktop” if this is the problem.

 

All the best.

 

Ben


NVDA 2020.2 and Word Track Changes

Sandra Pilz
 

Hi,


I am using the current version of NVDA, 2020.2. When I am in a word document with track changes enabled, I can go to reading mode and press a to go to the next change and again to the next change and so on. However, I can't move to the previous change. When I press shift+a, NVDA will tell me no changes were found, although it took me through them when I went forward using just a.


I am using Office 365. Also, I'm using a German version of NVDA, so I don't know if the key to cycle through changes is different in the English version. However, A is the correct key in my version.


Can I do something to solve this, or is this a new bug?



Regards


Sandra



Re: Nvda and multiple reading of subjects in E-mails

Fernando Paixão
 

Good morning folks from NVDA development, I have a question here that is:
I am using the last alpha of today that 3 alphas came out today, and the last when I enter the Mozilla thunderbird email client, it locks the reading of email with any voice. Does this happen to you?

follow the NVDA log below please already taking advantage of the friend's email.

here it goes:

INFO - __main__ (06: 19: 55.852) - MainThread (7304):
Starting NVDA version alpha-20666, e2675e2a
INFO - core.main (06: 19: 55.992) - MainThread (7304):
Config dir: C: \ Users \ ferna \ AppData \ Roaming \ nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (06: 19: 55.992) - MainThread (7304):
Loading config: C: \ Users \ ferna \ AppData \ Roaming \ nvda \ nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (06: 19: 56.039) - MainThread (7304):
Using Windows version 10.0.20180 workstation
INFO - core.main (06: 19: 56.039) - MainThread (7304):
Using Python version 3.7.8 (tags / v3.7.8: 4b47a5b6ba, Jun 28 2020, 07:55:33) [MSC v.1916 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (06: 19: 56.039) - MainThread (7304):
Using comtypes version 1.1.7
INFO - core.main (06: 19: 56.039) - MainThread (7304):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver .__ init__ (06: 19: 57.117) - MainThread (7304):
Using eSpeak NG version b'1.49.3 dev '
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (06: 19: 57.279) - MainThread (7304):
Loaded synthDriver espeak
INFO - core.main (06: 19: 57.279) - MainThread (7304):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5 with six version 1.12.0
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (06: 19: 57.281) - MainThread (7304):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (06: 19: 57.281) - MainThread (7304):
Using liblouis version 3.14.0
INFO - braille.initialize (06: 19: 57.291) - MainThread (7304):
Using pySerial version 3.4
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (06: 19: 57.301) - MainThread (7304):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
INFO - core.main (06: 19: 59.734) - MainThread (7304):
Java Access Bridge support initialized
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (06: 19: 59.764) - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThread (7084):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
DEBUGWARNING - touchHandler.touchSupported (06: 19: 59.913) - MainThread (7304):
No touch devices found
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (06: 19: 59.945) - MainThread (7304):
C: \ Users \ ferna \ AppData \ Roaming \ nvda \ addons \ wordReview \ globalPlugins \ wordReview \ libs \ bs4 \ element.py: 16: UserWarning: The soupsieve package is not installed. CSS selectors cannot
be used.
'The soupsieve package is not installed. CSS selectors cannot be used. '
INFO - external: globalPlugins.translate.GlobalPlugin .__ init__ (06: 20: 02.979) - MainThread (7304):
Translate module initialized, translating to en
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (06: 20: 03.132) - MainThread (7304):
Loading config: C: \ Users \ ferna \ AppData \ Roaming \ nvda \ profiles \ Portuguêss.ini
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (06: 20: 03.162) - MainThread (7304):
Loading config: C: \ Users \ ferna \ AppData \ Roaming \ nvda \ profiles \ reportPasswords.ini
INFO - external: globalPlugins.NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin.theGlobalPlugin.NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin .__ init__ (06: 20: 03.283) - MainThread (7304):
Loaded NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin version 9.2
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (06: 20: 03.424) - MainThread (7304):
C: \ Users \ ferna \ AppData \ Roaming \ nvda \ addons \ codefactory-py3 \ globalPlugins \ add_menu.py: 55: wxPyDeprecationWarning: Call to deprecated item. Use Insert instead.
systray.menu.InsertMenu (2, wx.ID_ANY, _ ("C & ode Factory"), self.menu)
INFO - core.main (06: 20: 03.676) - MainThread (7304):
NVDA initialized
DEBUGWARNING - external: globalPlugins.NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin.utils.keyboard.getKeyboardKeysIniFilePath (06: 20: 03.693) - MainThread (7304):
keyboard.ini file loaded from locale \ en_BR folder
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (06: 20: 03.776) - MainThread (7304):
C: \ Program Files (x86) \ NVDA \ library.zip \ api.py: 287: DeprecationWarning: Yield () is deprecated
WARNING - external: globalPlugins.NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin.commandKeysSelectiveAnnouncementAndRemanence.initialize (06: 20: 04.159) - MainThread (7304):
commandKeysSelectiveAnnouncementAndRemanence initialized
WARNING - external: globalPlugins.NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin.speechHistory.initialize (06: 20: 04.159) - MainThread (7304):
speechHistory initialized
ERROR - appModuleHandler.fetchAppModule (06: 20: 11.877) - MainThread (7304):
error in appModule 'thunderbird'
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "appModuleHandler.pyc", line 172, in fetchAppModule
File "importlib \ __ init __. Pyc", line 127, in import_module
File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1006, in _gcd_import
File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 983, in _find_and_load
File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 967, in _find_and_load_unlocked
File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 677, in _load_unlocked
File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 728, in exec_module
File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 219, in _call_with_frames_remo

Em Segunda, 3 de Agosto de 2020 09:08, "Jarek.Krcmar"
<Jarek.Krcmar@...> escreveu:

Hello all,

I have a long time a problem with Nvda.

It several times reads subjects in Emails.

Is possible to set Nvda, for reading of a subject once only?

Sincerely


--
Jarek




Re: Nvda and multiple reading of subjects in E-mails

Gene
 

The only way I know of to stop this problemis that, when you open a new message, don't just let it sit there and read. After you open the message, issue the read to end command.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Jarek.Krcmar
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 2:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Nvda and multiple reading of subjects in E-mails

Hello all,

I have a long time a problem with Nvda.

It several times reads subjects in Emails.

Is possible to set Nvda, for reading of a subject once only?

Sincerely


--
Jarek


Re: How can I copy, keeping the format of the document in Chrome?

Sean
 

It work now. I’m puzzled that I couldn’t discover it.
Thanks a lot Gene

  1. NVDA+Spacebar
    • With HTML document open in Chrome
  2. CTRL+a
    • NVDA doesn’t say anything. We can understand that it’s true here. In the other selection, the number of characters selected is reported. If the text is short, all reading.
  3. ctrl+c
On 03/08/2020 01:19, Gene wrote:

I wrote the last step incorrectly, but that's what I meant.  I meant NVDA Space to turn on browse mode again but I wrote NVDA a instead.  I'm glad you caught the error.  I check my messages before I send them but sometimes I don't catch something even when I read it again.

Gene
Gene
-----Original Message----- From: mcLeod stinnett
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2020 5:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How can I copy, keeping the format of the document in Chrome?



--

Sean

👨‍🦯 I’m programmer. I coding often Python, sometimes Go and rarely C++.


reading an article.

CJ
 

Hello,

I have updated my machine to  the latest NVDA version and have found that if I go onto say The Guardian site and start to read an article I seem to be able to read only one paragraph from  the article before insert and down arrow stop and I have to either down arrow or use insert and down arrow to get to the next paragraph of the article. Prior to updating things worked just fine so has something changed with the latest update or is it a case of a setting having altered and if so how do I get to read an entire article without it stopping at  each new paragraph.


Thanks in advance for any assistance and it is quite likely I have missed something simple. Any suggestions will be most welcomed.


My regards, CJ.


Nvda and multiple reading of subjects in E-mails

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Hello all,

I have a long time a problem with Nvda.

It several times reads subjects in Emails.

Is possible to set Nvda, for reading of a subject once only?

Sincerely


--
Jarek