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Re: Season's greetings

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Molly,

Happy Holidays to you and everyone on list.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 1:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Season's greetings

Happy holidays, everyone.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Season's greetings

From Italy as well... And Happy New Year too, ad Happy whatever people on this list celebrate!

Ciao,

Ollie




Il 18/12/2018 11:30, Cearbhall O'Meadhra ha scritto:

Happy Christmas, Quentin and everyone on the list.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e:
cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*Quentin Christensen
*Sent:* Monday, December 17, 2018 11:15 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Season's greetings

Thank you Clive,

And a Merry Christmas to you and everyone on the list from NV Access
and myself as well!

Quentin.

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 9:51 AM Clive Pallett
<clive.pallett@ptplace.co.uk <mailto:clive.pallett@ptplace.co.uk>> wrote:

Hello everyone,

Wishing you all on the list all the best for the season, whatever
your celebrations.

Best wishes,

Clive Pallett


--

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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
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Re: Reading emoticons and Kazakh language for eSpeak NG

Quentin Christensen
 

Could you please give me the address of a page - there are different ways of representing things which end up looking the same, and I want to make sure I'm comparing the same thing as you.


On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 1:18 AM Adil Uralbaev <adiluralbaev@...> wrote:
I also noticed that some emoticons are pronounced only when if you
move the cursor arrows on it, as if you want to read the previous or
the next character. And if you read, using the up and down arrows,
they are not pronounced, only the word "Graphics" is pronounced.

2018-12-18 15:07 GMT+03:00, Adil Uralbaev via Groups.Io
<adiluralbaev=gmail.com@groups.io>:
> Hi!
> Smileys are not pronounced on sites. I noticed this when I
> corresponded on social networks. I would like this bug to be fixed.
> In the version of NVDA 2018.3.2 everything worked.
>
> 2018-12-18 14:45 GMT+03:00, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>:
>> Hi Adil,
>>
>> Could you give an example of an emoji that isn't working, or a page that
>> has one etc?
>>
>> When you say in the previous version, could you please confirm, do you
>> mean
>> 2018.3.2, or one of the alpha / beta / rc releases?
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 10:13 PM Adil Uralbaev <adiluralbaev@...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello.
>>> Speech synthesizers do not pronounce some smilies that are written in
>>> Unicode. In the previous version there were no such problems.
>>> Everything was read correctly.
>>> And I want to thank you for the support of the Kazakh language for
>>> eSpeak NG. I hope you will continue to work on this language.
>>> Waiting for fixis in reading emoticons.
>>> Thanks!
>>> Sincerely, Adil.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Quentin Christensen
>> Training and Support Manager
>>
>> Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
>> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>>
>> www.nvaccess.org
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>> Twitter: @NVAccess
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>





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Training and Support Manager

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Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Season's greetings

molly the blind tech lover
 

Happy holidays, everyone.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Season's greetings

From Italy as well... And Happy New Year too, ad Happy whatever people on this list celebrate!

Ciao,

Ollie




Il 18/12/2018 11:30, Cearbhall O'Meadhra ha scritto:

Happy Christmas, Quentin and everyone on the list.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e:
cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*Quentin Christensen
*Sent:* Monday, December 17, 2018 11:15 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Season's greetings

Thank you Clive,

And a Merry Christmas to you and everyone on the list from NV Access
and myself as well!

Quentin.

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 9:51 AM Clive Pallett
<clive.pallett@ptplace.co.uk <mailto:clive.pallett@ptplace.co.uk>> wrote:

Hello everyone,

Wishing you all on the list all the best for the season, whatever
your celebrations.

Best wishes,

Clive Pallett


--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: Firefox browsing bug in NVDA 2018.4

Tyler Spivey
 

I can.
1. Open https://nvaccess.org/
2. Move to the first heading, We believe that every Blind + Vision
Impaired person Deserves the right to freely & easily access a computer!
3. Press tab, I'm at the top.

Now repeat this, but move to the second one, nvAccessLimited inside the
frame.
I'm not placed at the top again.

I assume this is a Firefox bug and not related to NVDA, because tab has
no special meaning to NVDA here, at least according to input help.

On 12/18/2018 1:13 PM, George McCoy wrote:
Travis,


I can not duplicate your issue.  I am running windows 10 pro, NVDA
2018.4 and firefox 64.0 64 bit.


George

On 12/17/2018 8:23 PM, Kwork wrote:

Thank you Abby. With the lack of responses to my question, I figured
it was somewhat isolated to me.

If you don't mind experimenting a bit with your installation, go to
the official NVDA site:

https://www.nvaccess.org/

The main page will be good enough as it's site wide for me.

Use the headings shortcut, the letter h, to go down a couple headings.
From there, and it doesn't matter if you do it immediately, or up and
down arrow a bit, tab once.

If you hear the following words,

NV Access Empowering lives through non-visual access to technology

You'll know that you've been returned to the top of the page.

Any other response means that you're not reproducing the same thing I
am here.

Thank you.

Travis

On 12/17/2018 3:59 PM, Abbie Taylor wrote:
I'm afraid I'm not reproducing this here, either, at least not on the
groups.io page for this message. After reading the message, I was
able to press Tab to get to the Reply button, then Tab a few more
times to get to the edit field where I'm now typing my reply.
However, I noticed earlier while proofing a post on my blog at
https://abbiescorner.wordpress.com, when I pressed Tab within the
post, it took me to the top of the post. I updated my NVDA just
yesterday, so will see what develops.
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@gmail.com


Re: Firefox browsing bug in NVDA 2018.4

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

Travis,


I can not duplicate your issue.  I am running windows 10 pro, NVDA 2018.4 and firefox 64.0 64 bit.


George

On 12/17/2018 8:23 PM, Kwork wrote:

Thank you Abby. With the lack of responses to my question, I figured it was somewhat isolated to me.

If you don't mind experimenting a bit with your installation, go to the official NVDA site:

https://www.nvaccess.org/

The main page will be good enough as it's site wide for me.

Use the headings shortcut, the letter h, to go down a couple headings. From there, and it doesn't matter if you do it immediately, or up and down arrow a bit, tab once.

If you hear the following words,

NV Access Empowering lives through non-visual access to technology

You'll know that you've been returned to the top of the page.

Any other response means that you're not reproducing the same thing I am here.

Thank you.

Travis

On 12/17/2018 3:59 PM, Abbie Taylor wrote:
I'm afraid I'm not reproducing this here, either, at least not on the groups.io page for this message. After reading the message, I was able to press Tab to get to the Reply button, then Tab a few more times to get to the edit field where I'm now typing my reply. However, I noticed earlier while proofing a post on my blog at https://abbiescorner.wordpress.com, when I pressed Tab within the post, it took me to the top of the post. I updated my NVDA just yesterday, so will see what develops.
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...


Re: dectalk express u s b

Tyler Spivey
 

No problem. Thanks for telling me about the zip files, Jeff's site has
also been fixed to download addons properly now and not as zips.

On 12/18/2018 12:05 PM, larry k wrote:
   thanks for all your help. got it working and couldn't have done it
without you.
thanks again
larry

-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

I don't host any of them. Get it from Jeff's, link below.
I see what the problem is. You're probably using IE, which automatically
renames addons to zips, unless the server tells it not to. Also, copying
it to synthDrivers won't work
So you simply need to change the extension from .zip to .nvda-addon, or
download with Firefox or chrome.
Alternatively, do this.
1. Download the addon. You'll get a zip.
2. Copy it to your clipboard from explorer.
3. Open the NVDA menu, tools, Manage add-ons, install.
3. Paste. Press enter.

Download link:
https://jeff.tdrealms.com/Add-Ons/DECtalkUSB.nvda-addon

On 12/18/2018 10:54 AM, larry k wrote:
I've tried all of them on your site.
send me a link to the dectalk u s b  add-on and I think that one is in a
zip format, not an addon.
if this is the case, after putting drivers in the synth drivers folder,
it does not talk.
larry

-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 11:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

There are two different addons. One for the dectalk express which
connects through a serial port, and one for the dectalk USB which
connects through a USB port.
If you have a dectalk USB connected through the USB port, you want the
USB addon.
If you want to connect it through serial, you need the dectalk express
addon, and you also need to edit it to change the serial port (or change
the port in device manager to match the one the addon is currently
using).

On 12/18/2018 10:31 AM, larry k wrote:
I get the message, can not load synthesizer when I try and load express.
following is the log.

INFO - __main__ (11:24:59.428):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.835):
Config dir: C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (11:24:59.835):
Loading config: C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
NVDA version 2018.4
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using Windows version 10.0.17134 workstation
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17)
[MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:25:00.252):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
INFO - core.main (11:25:00.252):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (11:25:00.252):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (11:25:00.252):
Using liblouis version 3.7.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (11:25:00.252):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (11:25:00.272):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (11:25:00.282):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5
INFO - core.main (11:25:00.721):
NVDA initialized
INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (11:25:32.114):
Base configuration saved
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:28:09.670):
Loaded synthDriver express
ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:29:08.423):
setSynth
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 105, in setSynth
 File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 73, in getSynthInstance
 File
"C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\express\synthDrivers\express.py",


line 85, in __init__
 File "serial\__init__.pyo", line 78, in serial_for_url
 File "serial\serialwin32.pyo", line 66, in open
SerialException: could not open port 'com3': WindowsError(5, 'Access is
denied.')
ERROR - stderr (11:29:08.423):
Exception in thread Thread-9:
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "threading.pyo", line 801, in __bootstrap_inner
 File
"C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\express\synthDrivers\express.py",


line 26, in run
 File "serial\serialwin32.pyo", line 246, in read
SerialException: Attempting to use a port that is not open
ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:29:08.423):
setSynth
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 105, in setSynth
 File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 73, in getSynthInstance
 File
"C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\express\synthDrivers\express.py",


line 85, in __init__
 File "serial\__init__.pyo", line 78, in serial_for_url
 File "serial\serialwin32.pyo", line 66, in open
SerialException: could not open port 'com3': WindowsError(5, 'Access is
denied.')
INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (11:29:08.467):
Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.3 dev
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:29:08.552):
Loaded synthDriver espeak
ERROR - unhandled exception (11:29:29.391):
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyo", line 595, in onCancel
 File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyo", line 851, in onDiscard
 File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyo", line 1177, in onDiscard
 File "wx\core.pyo", line 1392, in _EvtHandler_Unbind
 File "wx\core.pyo", line 1461, in Unbind
RuntimeError: wrapped C/C++ object of type Choice has been deleted

larry


-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 14:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

First, let's get the basics out of the way. Do you have the drivers
installed?
If not, go here and get them. If your PC is 64-bit, you'll want the
64-bit driver:

http://www.axsol.com/downloads.php

Once these are installed, restart your computer and try again.

Last I checked many years ago, that addon worked. I don't have a
dectalk, so can't debug it here. If you really want it to work, we might
be able to debug remotely with you on Skype or something, but I can't
guarantee anything.

On 12/17/2018 1:15 PM, larry k wrote:
synth is connectedby u s b.
it doesn't talk at all.
this is the one labeled u s b.


-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 14:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

What is it doing? Exactly which addon do you have and does it talk at
all? How is the synth connected, serial or USB?

On 12/17/2018 1:07 PM, larry k wrote:
the dectalk express add on doesn’t work correctly. does anyone have
any
tips to make it work with the synthesizer?
larry





















Re: dectalk express u s b

larry k <sirlaurence.larry@...>
 

thanks for all your help. got it working and couldn't have done it without you.
thanks again
larry

-----Original Message-----
From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

I don't host any of them. Get it from Jeff's, link below.
I see what the problem is. You're probably using IE, which automatically
renames addons to zips, unless the server tells it not to. Also, copying
it to synthDrivers won't work
So you simply need to change the extension from .zip to .nvda-addon, or
download with Firefox or chrome.
Alternatively, do this.
1. Download the addon. You'll get a zip.
2. Copy it to your clipboard from explorer.
3. Open the NVDA menu, tools, Manage add-ons, install.
3. Paste. Press enter.

Download link:
https://jeff.tdrealms.com/Add-Ons/DECtalkUSB.nvda-addon

On 12/18/2018 10:54 AM, larry k wrote:
I've tried all of them on your site.
send me a link to the dectalk u s b add-on and I think that one is in a
zip format, not an addon.
if this is the case, after putting drivers in the synth drivers folder,
it does not talk.
larry

-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 11:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

There are two different addons. One for the dectalk express which
connects through a serial port, and one for the dectalk USB which
connects through a USB port.
If you have a dectalk USB connected through the USB port, you want the
USB addon.
If you want to connect it through serial, you need the dectalk express
addon, and you also need to edit it to change the serial port (or change
the port in device manager to match the one the addon is currently using).

On 12/18/2018 10:31 AM, larry k wrote:
I get the message, can not load synthesizer when I try and load express.
following is the log.

INFO - __main__ (11:24:59.428):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.835):
Config dir: C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (11:24:59.835):
Loading config: C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
NVDA version 2018.4
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using Windows version 10.0.17134 workstation
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17)
[MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:25:00.252):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
INFO - core.main (11:25:00.252):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (11:25:00.252):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (11:25:00.252):
Using liblouis version 3.7.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (11:25:00.252):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (11:25:00.272):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (11:25:00.282):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5
INFO - core.main (11:25:00.721):
NVDA initialized
INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (11:25:32.114):
Base configuration saved
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:28:09.670):
Loaded synthDriver express
ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:29:08.423):
setSynth
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 105, in setSynth
File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 73, in getSynthInstance
File
"C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\express\synthDrivers\express.py",

line 85, in __init__
File "serial\__init__.pyo", line 78, in serial_for_url
File "serial\serialwin32.pyo", line 66, in open
SerialException: could not open port 'com3': WindowsError(5, 'Access is
denied.')
ERROR - stderr (11:29:08.423):
Exception in thread Thread-9:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "threading.pyo", line 801, in __bootstrap_inner
File
"C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\express\synthDrivers\express.py",

line 26, in run
File "serial\serialwin32.pyo", line 246, in read
SerialException: Attempting to use a port that is not open
ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:29:08.423):
setSynth
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 105, in setSynth
File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 73, in getSynthInstance
File
"C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\express\synthDrivers\express.py",

line 85, in __init__
File "serial\__init__.pyo", line 78, in serial_for_url
File "serial\serialwin32.pyo", line 66, in open
SerialException: could not open port 'com3': WindowsError(5, 'Access is
denied.')
INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (11:29:08.467):
Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.3 dev
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:29:08.552):
Loaded synthDriver espeak
ERROR - unhandled exception (11:29:29.391):
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyo", line 595, in onCancel
File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyo", line 851, in onDiscard
File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyo", line 1177, in onDiscard
File "wx\core.pyo", line 1392, in _EvtHandler_Unbind
File "wx\core.pyo", line 1461, in Unbind
RuntimeError: wrapped C/C++ object of type Choice has been deleted

larry


-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 14:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

First, let's get the basics out of the way. Do you have the drivers
installed?
If not, go here and get them. If your PC is 64-bit, you'll want the
64-bit driver:

http://www.axsol.com/downloads.php

Once these are installed, restart your computer and try again.

Last I checked many years ago, that addon worked. I don't have a
dectalk, so can't debug it here. If you really want it to work, we might
be able to debug remotely with you on Skype or something, but I can't
guarantee anything.

On 12/17/2018 1:15 PM, larry k wrote:
synth is connectedby u s b.
it doesn't talk at all.
this is the one labeled u s b.


-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 14:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

What is it doing? Exactly which addon do you have and does it talk at
all? How is the synth connected, serial or USB?

On 12/17/2018 1:07 PM, larry k wrote:
the dectalk express add on doesn’t work correctly. does anyone have any
tips to make it work with the synthesizer?
larry
















Re: can't get vlc media player to start

Karmelo
 

Rosemarie,

 

Try the context menu key

arrow down to open with. 

You should find vlc media player. 

Press enter.

 

Regards,

Charles

 

Hi.

 

How are you trying to open it?

 

Are your file associations set to VlC?

What happens when you open it using the search box or run dialog?

If you’ve tried everything and there’s simply no VLC window opening, it may be time to re-install. There’s nothing special related to starting VlC; it should open like any other programme.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: December 18, 2018 2:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] can't get vlc media player to start

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I just put in a movie to try to watch but I can't get vlc media player to play now. The last time I used it was during the summer when I was watching a movie my sister gaveme for my birthday. How do I get this program to start?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 


Re: dectalk express u s b

Tyler Spivey
 

What part of my instructions was unclear? The only thing you seemed to
understand was the link, but there is more to my email.

On 12/18/2018 11:07 AM, larry k wrote:
I downloaded the file mentioned and copied the .py file.
I put it in n v d a synth drivers.
in the synthesizer list, it shows up but when you select it, and pick
speakers since the express has it's own, I get the error, cannot load
synthesizer.
I think I already sent you the log.
larry

-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

I don't host any of them. Get it from Jeff's, link below.
I see what the problem is. You're probably using IE, which automatically
renames addons to zips, unless the server tells it not to. Also, copying
it to synthDrivers won't work
So you simply need to change the extension from .zip to .nvda-addon, or
download with Firefox or chrome.
Alternatively, do this.
1. Download the addon. You'll get a zip.
2. Copy it to your clipboard from explorer.
3. Open the NVDA menu, tools, Manage add-ons, install.
3. Paste. Press enter.

Download link:
https://jeff.tdrealms.com/Add-Ons/DECtalkUSB.nvda-addon

On 12/18/2018 10:54 AM, larry k wrote:
I've tried all of them on your site.
send me a link to the dectalk u s b  add-on and I think that one is in a
zip format, not an addon.
if this is the case, after putting drivers in the synth drivers folder,
it does not talk.
larry

-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 11:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

There are two different addons. One for the dectalk express which
connects through a serial port, and one for the dectalk USB which
connects through a USB port.
If you have a dectalk USB connected through the USB port, you want the
USB addon.
If you want to connect it through serial, you need the dectalk express
addon, and you also need to edit it to change the serial port (or change
the port in device manager to match the one the addon is currently
using).

On 12/18/2018 10:31 AM, larry k wrote:
I get the message, can not load synthesizer when I try and load express.
following is the log.

INFO - __main__ (11:24:59.428):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.835):
Config dir: C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (11:24:59.835):
Loading config: C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
NVDA version 2018.4
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using Windows version 10.0.17134 workstation
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17)
[MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:25:00.252):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
INFO - core.main (11:25:00.252):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (11:25:00.252):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (11:25:00.252):
Using liblouis version 3.7.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (11:25:00.252):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (11:25:00.272):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (11:25:00.282):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5
INFO - core.main (11:25:00.721):
NVDA initialized
INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (11:25:32.114):
Base configuration saved
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:28:09.670):
Loaded synthDriver express
ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:29:08.423):
setSynth
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 105, in setSynth
 File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 73, in getSynthInstance
 File
"C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\express\synthDrivers\express.py",


line 85, in __init__
 File "serial\__init__.pyo", line 78, in serial_for_url
 File "serial\serialwin32.pyo", line 66, in open
SerialException: could not open port 'com3': WindowsError(5, 'Access is
denied.')
ERROR - stderr (11:29:08.423):
Exception in thread Thread-9:
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "threading.pyo", line 801, in __bootstrap_inner
 File
"C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\express\synthDrivers\express.py",


line 26, in run
 File "serial\serialwin32.pyo", line 246, in read
SerialException: Attempting to use a port that is not open
ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:29:08.423):
setSynth
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 105, in setSynth
 File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 73, in getSynthInstance
 File
"C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\express\synthDrivers\express.py",


line 85, in __init__
 File "serial\__init__.pyo", line 78, in serial_for_url
 File "serial\serialwin32.pyo", line 66, in open
SerialException: could not open port 'com3': WindowsError(5, 'Access is
denied.')
INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (11:29:08.467):
Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.3 dev
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:29:08.552):
Loaded synthDriver espeak
ERROR - unhandled exception (11:29:29.391):
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyo", line 595, in onCancel
 File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyo", line 851, in onDiscard
 File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyo", line 1177, in onDiscard
 File "wx\core.pyo", line 1392, in _EvtHandler_Unbind
 File "wx\core.pyo", line 1461, in Unbind
RuntimeError: wrapped C/C++ object of type Choice has been deleted

larry


-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 14:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

First, let's get the basics out of the way. Do you have the drivers
installed?
If not, go here and get them. If your PC is 64-bit, you'll want the
64-bit driver:

http://www.axsol.com/downloads.php

Once these are installed, restart your computer and try again.

Last I checked many years ago, that addon worked. I don't have a
dectalk, so can't debug it here. If you really want it to work, we might
be able to debug remotely with you on Skype or something, but I can't
guarantee anything.

On 12/17/2018 1:15 PM, larry k wrote:
synth is connectedby u s b.
it doesn't talk at all.
this is the one labeled u s b.


-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 14:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

What is it doing? Exactly which addon do you have and does it talk at
all? How is the synth connected, serial or USB?

On 12/17/2018 1:07 PM, larry k wrote:
the dectalk express add on doesn’t work correctly. does anyone have
any
tips to make it work with the synthesizer?
larry





















Re: can't get vlc media player to start

JM Casey
 

Hi.

 

How are you trying to open it?

 

Are your file associations set to VlC?

What happens when you open it using the search box or run dialog?

If you’ve tried everything and there’s simply no VLC window opening, it may be time to re-install. There’s nothing special related to starting VlC; it should open like any other programme.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: December 18, 2018 2:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] can't get vlc media player to start

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I just put in a movie to try to watch but I can't get vlc media player to play now. The last time I used it was during the summer when I was watching a movie my sister gaveme for my birthday. How do I get this program to start?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 


Re: dectalk express u s b

larry k <sirlaurence.larry@...>
 

I downloaded the file mentioned and copied the .py file.
I put it in n v d a synth drivers.
in the synthesizer list, it shows up but when you select it, and pick speakers since the express has it's own, I get the error, cannot load synthesizer.
I think I already sent you the log.
larry

-----Original Message-----
From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

I don't host any of them. Get it from Jeff's, link below.
I see what the problem is. You're probably using IE, which automatically
renames addons to zips, unless the server tells it not to. Also, copying
it to synthDrivers won't work
So you simply need to change the extension from .zip to .nvda-addon, or
download with Firefox or chrome.
Alternatively, do this.
1. Download the addon. You'll get a zip.
2. Copy it to your clipboard from explorer.
3. Open the NVDA menu, tools, Manage add-ons, install.
3. Paste. Press enter.

Download link:
https://jeff.tdrealms.com/Add-Ons/DECtalkUSB.nvda-addon

On 12/18/2018 10:54 AM, larry k wrote:
I've tried all of them on your site.
send me a link to the dectalk u s b add-on and I think that one is in a
zip format, not an addon.
if this is the case, after putting drivers in the synth drivers folder,
it does not talk.
larry

-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 11:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

There are two different addons. One for the dectalk express which
connects through a serial port, and one for the dectalk USB which
connects through a USB port.
If you have a dectalk USB connected through the USB port, you want the
USB addon.
If you want to connect it through serial, you need the dectalk express
addon, and you also need to edit it to change the serial port (or change
the port in device manager to match the one the addon is currently using).

On 12/18/2018 10:31 AM, larry k wrote:
I get the message, can not load synthesizer when I try and load express.
following is the log.

INFO - __main__ (11:24:59.428):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.835):
Config dir: C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (11:24:59.835):
Loading config: C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
NVDA version 2018.4
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using Windows version 10.0.17134 workstation
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17)
[MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:25:00.252):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
INFO - core.main (11:25:00.252):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (11:25:00.252):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (11:25:00.252):
Using liblouis version 3.7.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (11:25:00.252):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (11:25:00.272):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (11:25:00.282):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5
INFO - core.main (11:25:00.721):
NVDA initialized
INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (11:25:32.114):
Base configuration saved
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:28:09.670):
Loaded synthDriver express
ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:29:08.423):
setSynth
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 105, in setSynth
File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 73, in getSynthInstance
File
"C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\express\synthDrivers\express.py",

line 85, in __init__
File "serial\__init__.pyo", line 78, in serial_for_url
File "serial\serialwin32.pyo", line 66, in open
SerialException: could not open port 'com3': WindowsError(5, 'Access is
denied.')
ERROR - stderr (11:29:08.423):
Exception in thread Thread-9:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "threading.pyo", line 801, in __bootstrap_inner
File
"C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\express\synthDrivers\express.py",

line 26, in run
File "serial\serialwin32.pyo", line 246, in read
SerialException: Attempting to use a port that is not open
ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:29:08.423):
setSynth
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 105, in setSynth
File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 73, in getSynthInstance
File
"C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\express\synthDrivers\express.py",

line 85, in __init__
File "serial\__init__.pyo", line 78, in serial_for_url
File "serial\serialwin32.pyo", line 66, in open
SerialException: could not open port 'com3': WindowsError(5, 'Access is
denied.')
INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (11:29:08.467):
Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.3 dev
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:29:08.552):
Loaded synthDriver espeak
ERROR - unhandled exception (11:29:29.391):
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyo", line 595, in onCancel
File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyo", line 851, in onDiscard
File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyo", line 1177, in onDiscard
File "wx\core.pyo", line 1392, in _EvtHandler_Unbind
File "wx\core.pyo", line 1461, in Unbind
RuntimeError: wrapped C/C++ object of type Choice has been deleted

larry


-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 14:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

First, let's get the basics out of the way. Do you have the drivers
installed?
If not, go here and get them. If your PC is 64-bit, you'll want the
64-bit driver:

http://www.axsol.com/downloads.php

Once these are installed, restart your computer and try again.

Last I checked many years ago, that addon worked. I don't have a
dectalk, so can't debug it here. If you really want it to work, we might
be able to debug remotely with you on Skype or something, but I can't
guarantee anything.

On 12/17/2018 1:15 PM, larry k wrote:
synth is connectedby u s b.
it doesn't talk at all.
this is the one labeled u s b.


-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 14:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

What is it doing? Exactly which addon do you have and does it talk at
all? How is the synth connected, serial or USB?

On 12/17/2018 1:07 PM, larry k wrote:
the dectalk express add on doesn’t work correctly. does anyone have any
tips to make it work with the synthesizer?
larry
















can't get vlc media player to start

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,

 

I just put in a movie to try to watch but I can't get vlc media player to play now. The last time I used it was during the summer when I was watching a movie my sister gaveme for my birthday. How do I get this program to start?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 


Re: dectalk express u s b

Tyler Spivey
 

I don't host any of them. Get it from Jeff's, link below.
I see what the problem is. You're probably using IE, which automatically
renames addons to zips, unless the server tells it not to. Also, copying
it to synthDrivers won't work
So you simply need to change the extension from .zip to .nvda-addon, or
download with Firefox or chrome.
Alternatively, do this.
1. Download the addon. You'll get a zip.
2. Copy it to your clipboard from explorer.
3. Open the NVDA menu, tools, Manage add-ons, install.
3. Paste. Press enter.

Download link:
https://jeff.tdrealms.com/Add-Ons/DECtalkUSB.nvda-addon

On 12/18/2018 10:54 AM, larry k wrote:
I've tried all of them on your site.
send me a link to the dectalk u s b  add-on and I think that one is in a
zip format, not an addon.
if this is the case, after putting drivers in the synth drivers folder,
it does not talk.
larry

-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 11:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

There are two different addons. One for the dectalk express which
connects through a serial port, and one for the dectalk USB which
connects through a USB port.
If you have a dectalk USB connected through the USB port, you want the
USB addon.
If you want to connect it through serial, you need the dectalk express
addon, and you also need to edit it to change the serial port (or change
the port in device manager to match the one the addon is currently using).

On 12/18/2018 10:31 AM, larry k wrote:
I get the message, can not load synthesizer when I try and load express.
following is the log.

INFO - __main__ (11:24:59.428):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.835):
Config dir: C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (11:24:59.835):
Loading config: C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
NVDA version 2018.4
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using Windows version 10.0.17134 workstation
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17)
[MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:25:00.252):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
INFO - core.main (11:25:00.252):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (11:25:00.252):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (11:25:00.252):
Using liblouis version 3.7.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (11:25:00.252):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (11:25:00.272):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (11:25:00.282):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5
INFO - core.main (11:25:00.721):
NVDA initialized
INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (11:25:32.114):
Base configuration saved
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:28:09.670):
Loaded synthDriver express
ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:29:08.423):
setSynth
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 105, in setSynth
 File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 73, in getSynthInstance
 File
"C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\express\synthDrivers\express.py",

line 85, in __init__
 File "serial\__init__.pyo", line 78, in serial_for_url
 File "serial\serialwin32.pyo", line 66, in open
SerialException: could not open port 'com3': WindowsError(5, 'Access is
denied.')
ERROR - stderr (11:29:08.423):
Exception in thread Thread-9:
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "threading.pyo", line 801, in __bootstrap_inner
 File
"C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\express\synthDrivers\express.py",

line 26, in run
 File "serial\serialwin32.pyo", line 246, in read
SerialException: Attempting to use a port that is not open
ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:29:08.423):
setSynth
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 105, in setSynth
 File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 73, in getSynthInstance
 File
"C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\express\synthDrivers\express.py",

line 85, in __init__
 File "serial\__init__.pyo", line 78, in serial_for_url
 File "serial\serialwin32.pyo", line 66, in open
SerialException: could not open port 'com3': WindowsError(5, 'Access is
denied.')
INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (11:29:08.467):
Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.3 dev
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:29:08.552):
Loaded synthDriver espeak
ERROR - unhandled exception (11:29:29.391):
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyo", line 595, in onCancel
 File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyo", line 851, in onDiscard
 File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyo", line 1177, in onDiscard
 File "wx\core.pyo", line 1392, in _EvtHandler_Unbind
 File "wx\core.pyo", line 1461, in Unbind
RuntimeError: wrapped C/C++ object of type Choice has been deleted

larry


-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 14:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

First, let's get the basics out of the way. Do you have the drivers
installed?
If not, go here and get them. If your PC is 64-bit, you'll want the
64-bit driver:

http://www.axsol.com/downloads.php

Once these are installed, restart your computer and try again.

Last I checked many years ago, that addon worked. I don't have a
dectalk, so can't debug it here. If you really want it to work, we might
be able to debug remotely with you on Skype or something, but I can't
guarantee anything.

On 12/17/2018 1:15 PM, larry k wrote:
synth is connectedby u s b.
it doesn't talk at all.
this is the one labeled u s b.


-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 14:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

What is it doing? Exactly which addon do you have and does it talk at
all? How is the synth connected, serial or USB?

On 12/17/2018 1:07 PM, larry k wrote:
the dectalk express add on doesn’t work correctly. does anyone have any
tips to make it work with the synthesizer?
larry
















Re: dectalk express u s b

larry k <sirlaurence.larry@...>
 

I've tried all of them on your site.
send me a link to the dectalk u s b add-on and I think that one is in a zip format, not an addon.
if this is the case, after putting drivers in the synth drivers folder, it does not talk.
larry

-----Original Message-----
From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 11:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

There are two different addons. One for the dectalk express which
connects through a serial port, and one for the dectalk USB which
connects through a USB port.
If you have a dectalk USB connected through the USB port, you want the
USB addon.
If you want to connect it through serial, you need the dectalk express
addon, and you also need to edit it to change the serial port (or change
the port in device manager to match the one the addon is currently using).

On 12/18/2018 10:31 AM, larry k wrote:
I get the message, can not load synthesizer when I try and load express.
following is the log.

INFO - __main__ (11:24:59.428):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.835):
Config dir: C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (11:24:59.835):
Loading config: C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
NVDA version 2018.4
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using Windows version 10.0.17134 workstation
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17)
[MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:25:00.252):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
INFO - core.main (11:25:00.252):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (11:25:00.252):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (11:25:00.252):
Using liblouis version 3.7.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (11:25:00.252):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (11:25:00.272):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (11:25:00.282):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5
INFO - core.main (11:25:00.721):
NVDA initialized
INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (11:25:32.114):
Base configuration saved
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:28:09.670):
Loaded synthDriver express
ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:29:08.423):
setSynth
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 105, in setSynth
File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 73, in getSynthInstance
File
"C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\express\synthDrivers\express.py",
line 85, in __init__
File "serial\__init__.pyo", line 78, in serial_for_url
File "serial\serialwin32.pyo", line 66, in open
SerialException: could not open port 'com3': WindowsError(5, 'Access is
denied.')
ERROR - stderr (11:29:08.423):
Exception in thread Thread-9:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "threading.pyo", line 801, in __bootstrap_inner
File
"C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\express\synthDrivers\express.py",
line 26, in run
File "serial\serialwin32.pyo", line 246, in read
SerialException: Attempting to use a port that is not open
ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:29:08.423):
setSynth
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 105, in setSynth
File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 73, in getSynthInstance
File
"C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\express\synthDrivers\express.py",
line 85, in __init__
File "serial\__init__.pyo", line 78, in serial_for_url
File "serial\serialwin32.pyo", line 66, in open
SerialException: could not open port 'com3': WindowsError(5, 'Access is
denied.')
INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (11:29:08.467):
Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.3 dev
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:29:08.552):
Loaded synthDriver espeak
ERROR - unhandled exception (11:29:29.391):
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyo", line 595, in onCancel
File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyo", line 851, in onDiscard
File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyo", line 1177, in onDiscard
File "wx\core.pyo", line 1392, in _EvtHandler_Unbind
File "wx\core.pyo", line 1461, in Unbind
RuntimeError: wrapped C/C++ object of type Choice has been deleted

larry


-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 14:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

First, let's get the basics out of the way. Do you have the drivers
installed?
If not, go here and get them. If your PC is 64-bit, you'll want the
64-bit driver:

http://www.axsol.com/downloads.php

Once these are installed, restart your computer and try again.

Last I checked many years ago, that addon worked. I don't have a
dectalk, so can't debug it here. If you really want it to work, we might
be able to debug remotely with you on Skype or something, but I can't
guarantee anything.

On 12/17/2018 1:15 PM, larry k wrote:
synth is connectedby u s b.
it doesn't talk at all.
this is the one labeled u s b.


-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 14:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

What is it doing? Exactly which addon do you have and does it talk at
all? How is the synth connected, serial or USB?

On 12/17/2018 1:07 PM, larry k wrote:
the dectalk express add on doesn’t work correctly. does anyone have any
tips to make it work with the synthesizer?
larry











Re: Hello/Still Noticing Slight Performance Decrease When Navigating with NVDA 2018.4

Tony Malykh
 

I noticed this in Chrome too - 2018.4 is slightly slower than
2018.3.2. All the betas of 2018.4 were slower as well. However, with
2018.3.2 I had a problem of weird behavior with missing keystrokes in
browse mode. So it seems to me some bugs were fixed that both solved
my problem and made chrome a bit slower.

On 12/17/18, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@outlook.com> wrote:
My guess is that nobody else is experiencing this issue as I'm seeing no
other posts about this.

When I navigate by links with K or shift K in Thunderbird and even, to an
extent, in Chrome I notice a slight slowdown in responsiveness compared to
2018.3. For a short time I thought it was my computer as I was sometimes
seeing this occur in 2018.3.2 but, in general, 2018.3.2 is still somewhat
faster. I sent Quentin a debug file with all addons disabled but I'm
assuming there was nothing obvious in the output as I haven't heard back. I
notice this with Espeak. On a faster machine I do not notice this but on a
slower Athlon 2.9 GHZ there is a slight but noticeable difference. Just
wondering if anybody has noticed this and if something changed in the code
regarding navigation?

--
David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com<http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com>




Re: dectalk express u s b

Tyler Spivey
 

There are two different addons. One for the dectalk express which
connects through a serial port, and one for the dectalk USB which
connects through a USB port.
If you have a dectalk USB connected through the USB port, you want the
USB addon.
If you want to connect it through serial, you need the dectalk express
addon, and you also need to edit it to change the serial port (or change
the port in device manager to match the one the addon is currently using).

On 12/18/2018 10:31 AM, larry k wrote:
I get the message, can not load synthesizer when I try and load express.
following is the log.

INFO - __main__ (11:24:59.428):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.835):
Config dir: C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (11:24:59.835):
Loading config: C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
NVDA version 2018.4
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using Windows version 10.0.17134 workstation
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17)
[MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:25:00.252):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
INFO - core.main (11:25:00.252):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (11:25:00.252):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (11:25:00.252):
Using liblouis version 3.7.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (11:25:00.252):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (11:25:00.272):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (11:25:00.282):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5
INFO - core.main (11:25:00.721):
NVDA initialized
INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (11:25:32.114):
Base configuration saved
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:28:09.670):
Loaded synthDriver express
ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:29:08.423):
setSynth
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 105, in setSynth
 File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 73, in getSynthInstance
 File
"C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\express\synthDrivers\express.py",
line 85, in __init__
 File "serial\__init__.pyo", line 78, in serial_for_url
 File "serial\serialwin32.pyo", line 66, in open
SerialException: could not open port 'com3': WindowsError(5, 'Access is
denied.')
ERROR - stderr (11:29:08.423):
Exception in thread Thread-9:
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "threading.pyo", line 801, in __bootstrap_inner
 File
"C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\express\synthDrivers\express.py",
line 26, in run
 File "serial\serialwin32.pyo", line 246, in read
SerialException: Attempting to use a port that is not open
ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:29:08.423):
setSynth
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 105, in setSynth
 File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 73, in getSynthInstance
 File
"C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\express\synthDrivers\express.py",
line 85, in __init__
 File "serial\__init__.pyo", line 78, in serial_for_url
 File "serial\serialwin32.pyo", line 66, in open
SerialException: could not open port 'com3': WindowsError(5, 'Access is
denied.')
INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (11:29:08.467):
Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.3 dev
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:29:08.552):
Loaded synthDriver espeak
ERROR - unhandled exception (11:29:29.391):
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyo", line 595, in onCancel
 File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyo", line 851, in onDiscard
 File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyo", line 1177, in onDiscard
 File "wx\core.pyo", line 1392, in _EvtHandler_Unbind
 File "wx\core.pyo", line 1461, in Unbind
RuntimeError: wrapped C/C++ object of type Choice has been deleted

larry


-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 14:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

First, let's get the basics out of the way. Do you have the drivers
installed?
If not, go here and get them. If your PC is 64-bit, you'll want the
64-bit driver:

http://www.axsol.com/downloads.php

Once these are installed, restart your computer and try again.

Last I checked many years ago, that addon worked. I don't have a
dectalk, so can't debug it here. If you really want it to work, we might
be able to debug remotely with you on Skype or something, but I can't
guarantee anything.

On 12/17/2018 1:15 PM, larry k wrote:
synth is connectedby u s b.
it doesn't talk at all.
this is the one labeled u s b.


-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 14:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

What is it doing? Exactly which addon do you have and does it talk at
all? How is the synth connected, serial or USB?

On 12/17/2018 1:07 PM, larry k wrote:
the dectalk express add on doesn’t work correctly. does anyone have any
tips to make it work with the synthesizer?
larry











Re: dectalk express u s b

larry k <sir-laurence@...>
 

I get the message, can not load synthesizer when I try and load express.
following is the log.

INFO - __main__ (11:24:59.428):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.835):
Config dir: C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (11:24:59.835):
Loading config: C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
NVDA version 2018.4
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using Windows version 10.0.17134 workstation
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - core.main (11:24:59.897):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:25:00.252):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
INFO - core.main (11:25:00.252):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (11:25:00.252):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (11:25:00.252):
Using liblouis version 3.7.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (11:25:00.252):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (11:25:00.272):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (11:25:00.282):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5
INFO - core.main (11:25:00.721):
NVDA initialized
INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (11:25:32.114):
Base configuration saved
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:28:09.670):
Loaded synthDriver express
ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:29:08.423):
setSynth
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 105, in setSynth
File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 73, in getSynthInstance
File "C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\express\synthDrivers\express.py", line 85, in __init__
File "serial\__init__.pyo", line 78, in serial_for_url
File "serial\serialwin32.pyo", line 66, in open
SerialException: could not open port 'com3': WindowsError(5, 'Access is denied.')
ERROR - stderr (11:29:08.423):
Exception in thread Thread-9:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "threading.pyo", line 801, in __bootstrap_inner
File "C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\express\synthDrivers\express.py", line 26, in run
File "serial\serialwin32.pyo", line 246, in read
SerialException: Attempting to use a port that is not open
ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:29:08.423):
setSynth
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 105, in setSynth
File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 73, in getSynthInstance
File "C:\Users\home\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\express\synthDrivers\express.py", line 85, in __init__
File "serial\__init__.pyo", line 78, in serial_for_url
File "serial\serialwin32.pyo", line 66, in open
SerialException: could not open port 'com3': WindowsError(5, 'Access is denied.')
INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (11:29:08.467):
Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.3 dev
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:29:08.552):
Loaded synthDriver espeak
ERROR - unhandled exception (11:29:29.391):
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyo", line 595, in onCancel
File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyo", line 851, in onDiscard
File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyo", line 1177, in onDiscard
File "wx\core.pyo", line 1392, in _EvtHandler_Unbind
File "wx\core.pyo", line 1461, in Unbind
RuntimeError: wrapped C/C++ object of type Choice has been deleted

larry

-----Original Message-----
From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 14:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

First, let's get the basics out of the way. Do you have the drivers
installed?
If not, go here and get them. If your PC is 64-bit, you'll want the
64-bit driver:

http://www.axsol.com/downloads.php

Once these are installed, restart your computer and try again.

Last I checked many years ago, that addon worked. I don't have a
dectalk, so can't debug it here. If you really want it to work, we might
be able to debug remotely with you on Skype or something, but I can't
guarantee anything.

On 12/17/2018 1:15 PM, larry k wrote:
synth is connectedby u s b.
it doesn't talk at all.
this is the one labeled u s b.


-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 14:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dectalk express u s b

What is it doing? Exactly which addon do you have and does it talk at
all? How is the synth connected, serial or USB?

On 12/17/2018 1:07 PM, larry k wrote:
the dectalk express add on doesn’t work correctly. does anyone have any
tips to make it work with the synthesizer?
larry






Re: Problem installing latest update

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Lucky you. My windows does not play any sound when the UAC dialog appears. I don't know if previous versions of windows made such a sound, but my 8.1 and my win10 make no sound when the dialog shows up, it just blanks the screen, which I can see, because the scren goes dark, then after I press the alt-y (once or twice depending), then the screen gets light again, so that's the way I manage it. If I wait long enough, I believe it does speak the contents, but that takes so long, that by the time it starts talking, I could have been back to what I was doing already, so there's no point to wait for the speech.

On Mon, 17 Dec 2018, Gene wrote:

In Windows 7, UAC always plays a sound when it comes up.  I would think that
would be the case in
Windows 10 as well.  Even if a screen-reader doesn't read it until you do
certain things to cause it to read, if you listen for the sound when you
begin to do something such as install something that is expected to cause
UAC to come up, that would, I would think, make things easier and faster. 
If you hear the sound, you shouldn't have to do anything, whether your
screen-reader reads the dialog or not, except to issue the command alt y.  I
use NVDA on my Windows 7 machine as a portable program.  It can't read the
UAC command for technical reasons I won't go into here and don't completely
know.  But the sound plays every time.  I just answer alt y. 
 
Gene
------ Original Message -----
From: Travis Siegel
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem installing latest update
For what it's worth, I had to answer alt-y to the security dialog twice.
I don't know if it's because it didn't take the first time, or if it jut
needed two yes responses, but I suspect it's the first option, because
I've had that issue before.  I can't see much, but I can tell when the
security screen comes up, because it's dark, and the rest of my screens
are very light, so when it comes, I hit alt-y, and away it goes, but
perhaps I hit alt-y too early, so had to do it again, but that was the
only trouble I had installing NVDA 2018.4.  It was a bit slow at first,
until I closed VLC, after that, it rturned to normal response times.
Don't know if it's a result of it just being VLC, or if it was a result of
my having had that particular copy of VLC open for nearly a week on this
machine, and it was just being a resource hot at that point, but
regardless of the reason, it behaved normally after I closed it, so there
itis for what it's worth. I haven't tried reopening VLC just yet, as I'm
not ready to continue reading that particular book.
On Tue, 18 Dec 2018, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Janet,
As Joseph asked, did you get the UAC dialog asking if you want to allow
the
program to make changes to your PC?  If you aren't seeing the UAC dialog,
or
aren't responding to it, that would generate a log like the one you
included.  See Joseph's message for a workaround.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 12:00 PM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
wrote:

       Hi,

       Hmmm, did you get any User Account Control prompt at all?
       Sometimes, attempting an install after logging out and back in
       resolves this and should give you a chance to say “Yes” when UAC
       screen spears.

       Cheers,

       Joseph

        

       From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
       Janet Brandly
       Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 4:55 PM
       To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
       Subject: [nvda] Problem installing latest update

 

Hello again Quentin,

 

Below is a copy of what the log viewer says.

 

Janet

 

INFO - __main__ (17:36:16.924):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (17:36:17.285):

Config dir: C:\Users\Janet\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (17:36:17.285):

Loading config: C:\Users\Janet\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (17:36:17.332):

NVDA version 2018.4

INFO - core.main (17:36:17.332):

Using Windows version 10.0.17134 workstation

INFO - core.main (17:36:17.332):

Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018,
16:22:17) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (17:36:17.332):

Using comtypes version 1.1.3

INFO - core.main (17:36:17.332):

Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (17:36:18.848):

Loaded synthDriver oneCore

INFO - core.main (17:36:18.855):

Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (17:36:18.865):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (17:36:18.865):

Using liblouis version 3.7.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (17:36:18.865):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

WARNING - core.main (17:36:18.966):

Java Access Bridge not available

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (17:36:18.996):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5

INFO - core.main (17:36:19.979):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (17:40:34.710):

Failed to execute installer

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "gui\installerGui.pyo", line 32, in doInstall

  File "config\__init__.pyo", line 209, in execElevated

  File "shellapi.pyo", line 42, in ShellExecuteEx

WindowsError: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.

ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (17:40:34.759):

Installation failed: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the
user.

       

From: Quentin Christensen

Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 3:41 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem installing latest update

 

Hi Janet,

 

We'll need a bit more information to help you.  One of the most common
reasons is that when you run the installer, it brings up a User
Account Control (UAC) dialog.  The dialog warns that the program wants
to make changes to your PC and you must accept it to continue.  That's
a standard Windows warning when you install any software, but
occasionally it appears behind other windows.  If the program is
installing (the progress bar is beeping) but you haven't answered that
dialog yet, try using ALT+TAB to find it (if it doesn't appear on top
of everything, it often appears at the back, as in the last window in
the list when you ALT+TAB).  If you don't respond to it within about
20 seconds, it will close and the install will fail.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 6:42 AM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@shaw.ca>
wrote:

       Hello all, especially NVDA Support,

 

I’m having a problem with the latest update. It seemed to
download OK after I got the prompt, but it wouldn’t install. It
asked me to review the log view which I did, but it doesn’t make
any sense to me. I looked for the software in my download folder
to install it manually, but it wasn’t there. Any help with this
would be much appreciated.

 

Thank you,

 

Jan

 

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

www.nvaccess.org 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification
now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



Re: Season's greetings

Mallard
 

From Italy as well... And Happy New Year too, ad Happy whatever people on this list celebrate!

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 18/12/2018 11:30, Cearbhall O'Meadhra ha scritto:

Happy Christmas, Quentin and everyone on the list.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Quentin Christensen
*Sent:* Monday, December 17, 2018 11:15 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Season's greetings

Thank you Clive,

And a Merry Christmas to you and everyone on the list from NV Access and myself as well!

Quentin.

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 9:51 AM Clive Pallett <clive.pallett@ptplace.co.uk <mailto:clive.pallett@ptplace.co.uk>> wrote:

Hello everyone,

Wishing you all on the list all the best for the season, whatever
your celebrations.

Best wishes,

Clive Pallett


--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: Vanbasco Karaoke

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I've actually never heard of the software myself. Were you going to use it in a Christmas party?
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Annamaria" <annamaria6776@tiscali.it>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 3:01 PM
Subject: [nvda] Vanbasco Karaoke


Hi everyone,

I can't use this program with Nvda.

I can not remove the trace of the melody.

Is there an addon about it?

Thank you.

Regards.


Annamaria