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Re: strange problem with a PDF

Andre Fisher
 

Hi.

There are two possibilities:
1. You have created either a configuration for Firefox or Acrobat Reader with different speech settings.
2. Language detection in the file is working in Acrobat Reader, but in Firefox it is not.

Try turning off automatic language detection in the Speech settings and report back.


Re: strange problem with a PDF

Luke Davis
 

Try going to speech settings (NVDA+control+s). Tab over to Automatic dialect switching, and un-check it.

If it already is, try un-checking automatic language switching.

With one or the other or both unchecked, press enter, and try your document again.

Luke

On Apr 15, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:

I just downloaded the first statement for my Able account, and it read
quite weird. My default voice is E-Speak Male7 with the American
accent, but when opening my statement in Adobe Acrobat Reader, it read
with what sounded like the default British voice, or at least the
Male7 British voice I'm not sure which. When I opened the same file in
Firefox, it read as normal. Any idea why this could be happening, or


Re: reading pdf files

Timothy VD Berg
 

Hi
Would it maybe a scaned document?
Thanks
Timothy

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2021 19:52
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reading pdf files

You are absolutely right Brian, this likely has more to do with the document in question than with NVDA. I've had this happen as well with Acrobat Reader. As I don't deal with PDF files all that often, I can't think of when it happened last time, but I'm pretty sure I have some files on my computer where this happens.


strange problem with a PDF

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

Hi all,
I just downloaded the first statement for my Able account, and it read
quite weird. My default voice is E-Speak Male7 with the American
accent, but when opening my statement in Adobe Acrobat Reader, it read
with what sounded like the default British voice, or at least the
Male7 British voice I'm not sure which. When I opened the same file in
Firefox, it read as normal. Any idea why this could be happening, or
does someone need the document?
Bob


Re: Windows magnifier add on for nvda

Sascha Cowley
 

I have used this add-on. Unfortunately, I cannot recommend it, as it makes both NVDA and Windows Magnifier rather sluggish on both the machines I tested it on. Both were running Windows 10, but I imagine the add-on would work on Windows 8, and possibly even 7 (I believe the base Magnifier infrastructure hasn't changed since then, though I am not certain).

Also, note that it's not listed as being compatible with NVDA 2020.4. While it did work when I just installed it to make sure I had the same experience as previously, during installation, NVDA informed me that the add-on failed to install and I had to restart NVDA to get the installation progress dialog to go away. Upon restarting, the add-on had installed, though I'm not sure if this issue had any effect on the performance of the add-on, NVDA, or Windows Magnifier.

I may take a look at the source code of the add-on at some point to see if I am able to improve it, as it is something I would find useful as well.


Re: NVDA Speech Dict: Match pattern after line of certain pattern

Luke Davis
 

William wrote:

If I want to configure NVDA speech dict to match pattern that occur after certain patter of line, is it possible?
No.

While regular expressions are capable of this, NVDA is not, because of how it processes dictionaries.

I wrote a test file:

test1
test2
test3

And did a say-all on it.
This, from the log, is how NVDA processes that event:

Input: kb(desktop):NVDA+downArrow
Speaking [CallbackCommand(name=say-all:lineReached), 'test1\r\n', CallbackCommand(name=say-all:lineReached), 'test2\r\n', CallbackCommand(name=say-all:lineReached), 'test3\r\n', CallbackCommand(name=say-all:lineReached)]

Ignoring the stuff not in single quotes, you can see that each line is handled, and therefore processed, separately.
It is little different than using your arrow key to read the text line by line.

You could commission someone to write an add-on for you to do this if you really need it, but NVDA can't do it by default.

Luke

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Re: Windows magnifier add on for nvda

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

I forgot to add in the link to the page where the add on is at present it can be found at https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/windowsMagnifier.en.html <https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/windowsMagnifier.en.html>

Gene nz

On 16/04/2021 11:09 am, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi guys


I have been asked about this add on for nvda.


The question is which operating system will it work on windows 8 or 10? I was also wondering if the add on works quite well why is it not in the stable main page is it still been worked on?

Has any one else used it? and does it work good on there machine? I have not got enough sight to see the screen but it is for a person with low vision.


Gene nz






Windows magnifier add on for nvda

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi guys


I have been asked about this add on for nvda.


The question is which operating system will it work on windows 8 or 10? I was also wondering if the add on works quite well why is it not in the stable main page is it still been worked on?

Has any one else used it? and does it work good on there machine? I have not got enough sight to see the screen but it is for a person with low vision.


Gene nz


Checking out a transcription editor with NVDA

Janet Brandly
 

Hello all,

 

I am looking for someone who would be willing to dig into a transcription editor with NVDA. I cannot get the text/edit box to work properly-I cannot read and edit what I have written. There are keyboard shortcuts to operate the player. If someone is interested, I will send you the link to the practice files. This is to prepare for a transcription test for a company I would like to work with. Please le me know and provide your private email address.

 

Thank you,

 

Janet


Re: reporting word number automatically.

farhan israk
 

Thanks to all.


On Thu, 15 Apr 2021, 10:25 pm Brian Vogel, <britechguy@...> wrote:
And as a side note, ALT+R,W, suggested by Ms. Byrne, and CTRL+SHIFT+G, suggested by Mr. Moxey, both bring up the same Word Count dialog.

The difference is the first throws focus to the review ribbon, and activates the Word Count option, and once you exit the Word Count dialog the Review Ribbon is what's still active.  The second just invokes the Word Count dialog no matter what ribbon happens to be on display and doesn't change it.  When you close afer CTRL+SHIFT+G whatever ribbon had been active before hitting that command remains active.  Using either still leaves your insertion point in the document wherever it had been immediately prior to your having invoked the dialog.
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Re: reading pdf files

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

You are absolutely right Brian, this likely has more to do with the
document in question than with NVDA. I've had this happen as well with
Acrobat Reader. As I don't deal with PDF files all that often, I can't
think of when it happened last time, but I'm pretty sure I have some
files on my computer where this happens.

On 4/15/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
This is another query where way more information is needed before any
potential assistant could try to replicate and comment:
1. Reading program being used.
2. PDF file itself, if accessible/downloadable to the general public
are the two items that are absolutely essential.

As Luke Davis has observed, you (any you) really need to try reading the PDF
in question using another reading program, preferably two additional reading
programs, just to determine whether the behavior is consistent across all
reading programs you try.  If it is, the probability is that there is an
issue with the PDF itself.

NVDA really has little to do, directly, with the "mechanics" of a PDF file.
Its encoding is outside the scope of NVDA and the screen reader justs
requests that the given file be read and takes what the PDF reading program
hands to it.
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Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless
you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

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Laurie Mehta
 


Re: NVDA Speech Dict: Match pattern after line of certain pattern

 

Subject update for clarity.
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Re: NVDA Speech Dict: Match pattern after line of certain pattern

 

Trying to match across line breaks is tricky, but it can be done.  The question is, given your example, if there were more items listed on individual lines below "An apple" would you be looking for those, too?

It's much easier to discuss this if you give an actual example of the data you're trying to work on, taken straight from its source, and can describe what it is that you are hoping will happen when processing it.
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Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: reporting word number automatically.

 

And as a side note, ALT+R,W, suggested by Ms. Byrne, and CTRL+SHIFT+G, suggested by Mr. Moxey, both bring up the same Word Count dialog.

The difference is the first throws focus to the review ribbon, and activates the Word Count option, and once you exit the Word Count dialog the Review Ribbon is what's still active.  The second just invokes the Word Count dialog no matter what ribbon happens to be on display and doesn't change it.  When you close afer CTRL+SHIFT+G whatever ribbon had been active before hitting that command remains active.  Using either still leaves your insertion point in the document wherever it had been immediately prior to your having invoked the dialog.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: reading pdf files

 

This is another query where way more information is needed before any potential assistant could try to replicate and comment:
1. Reading program being used.
2. PDF file itself, if accessible/downloadable to the general public
are the two items that are absolutely essential.

As Luke Davis has observed, you (any you) really need to try reading the PDF in question using another reading program, preferably two additional reading programs, just to determine whether the behavior is consistent across all reading programs you try.  If it is, the probability is that there is an issue with the PDF itself.

NVDA really has little to do, directly, with the "mechanics" of a PDF file.  Its encoding is outside the scope of NVDA and the screen reader justs requests that the given file be read and takes what the PDF reading program hands to it.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


NVDA Speech Dict: Match pattern after line of certain pattern

William
 

Hello,


If I want to configure NVDA speech dict to match pattern that occur after certain patter of line, is it possible?


For example, if I wanna match An apple in the below example, which I only wnat to match the line of An apple that occur after the first line (

Items to be sold:)

.


Items to be sold:

An apple


Thanks,

William


Re: reading pdf files

 

i confirm this.
i observed this firefox, did not test with other programs.

On 4/15/21, Luke Davis <luke@newanswertech.com> wrote:
What program were you using to read the file?
Acrobat reader, Edge, some browser plugin, what?

Where did the PDF come from, and is it public so we can review it? If so,
where
in the PDF does this start to happen?

It's probably some encoding problem with the PDF--I find that very technical

user manuals (I'm looking at you, Furman) often have similar very short line

problems.

Luke
UMIT ERDEM Yigitoglu wrote:

Today I tried to read an pdf file line by line. However it reads character
by character or or word by word in parts of the file. It happened to me
before
but today I wanted to get advise about it. I don't think problem doesn't
occur in a braile display. I don't know why does it happen or how to solve
it.




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Re: reporting word number automatically.

Ann Byrne
 

In Word, press alt+r, then w.

At 04:06 AM 4/15/2021, you wrote:

Hi Farhan



Further to Quentin’s great suggestions, try the Word shortcut Control + Shift + G (for golf) to bring up the document statistics. Press escape when done to return to your place in the document.



Hope this is useful.



All the best.



Ben



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 2:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reporting word number automatically.



There isn't an NVDA setting for that. Theoretically it could be possible with an add-on, but I can't think of one which does it.



There are a couple of things you can do to regularly check the word count, which is displayed in the status bar:

1) Press F6 to jump to the status bar. There are a number of other values here, so next press the right arrow to move to word count. Press SHIFT+F6 to move back to the document. Next time you press F6, the focus will jump straight to word count.



2) Press NVDA+end (NVDA+shift+end if using laptop keyboard layout). This reads the status bar. As noted, there are a number of other pieces of information here. While you can't reorder them, you can remove things you don't want. Again, press F6 to move to the status bar then the applications key to open the context menu. Press the down arrow to move through the list and spacebar to check and uncheck any items. Note that the state of the checkbox isn't reported. This is a known issue, but for now you'll just have to remember what is and isn't checked. If you would like to comment on the issue, it is this one: <https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5996>https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5996



Regards


Quentin.



On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 2:47 AM farhan israk <<mailto:fahim.net.2014@gmail.com>fahim.net.2014@gmail.com> wrote:

I am using latest nvda and microsoft word 2016. Is it possible to change settings so that nvda will announce word numbers automatically after each 5 or 10 words?




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Re: reporting word number automatically.

benmoxey@...
 

Hi Farhan

 

Further to Quentin’s great suggestions, try the Word shortcut Control + Shift + G (for golf) to bring up the document statistics. Press escape when done to return to your place in the document.

 

Hope this is useful.

 

All the best.

 

Ben

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 2:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reporting word number automatically.

 

There isn't an NVDA setting for that.  Theoretically it could be possible with an add-on, but I can't think of one which does it.

 

There are a couple of things you can do to regularly check the word count, which is displayed in the status bar:

1) Press F6 to jump to the status bar.  There are a number of other values here, so next press the right arrow to move to word count.  Press SHIFT+F6 to move back to the document.  Next time you press F6, the focus will jump straight to word count.

 

2) Press NVDA+end (NVDA+shift+end if using laptop keyboard layout).  This reads the status bar.  As noted, there are a number of other pieces of information here.  While you can't reorder them, you can remove things you don't want.  Again, press F6 to move to the status bar then the applications key to open the context menu.  Press the down arrow to move through the list and spacebar to check and uncheck any items.  Note that the state of the checkbox isn't reported.  This is a known issue, but for now you'll just have to remember what is and isn't checked.  If you would like to comment on the issue, it is this one: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5996

 

Regards


Quentin.

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 2:47 AM farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@...> wrote:

I am using latest nvda and microsoft word 2016. Is it possible to change settings so that nvda will announce word numbers automatically after each 5 or 10 words?


 

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