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Re: Tifkitecnia Demos

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,

Okay, this is all new to me. I thought code factory was the only company that sold vocalizer voices hense why I didn't go with them.


Is there a link pointing to this other companie's offerings and how does licensing work?


Similarly, I'm lothed to throw the ridiculous amount of money at code factory for NVDA eloquence.

On 2018-12-14 2:33 p.m., Richard Wells wrote:

Nimer: You are actually expressing my feels about Code Factory. Having dealt with both, I choose Tiflotecnia. By the way, you got one thing wrong. Removing an authorization does put it back in your available activations to be used again. I bought my original add-ons from A. T. Guys and even they have a devil of a time getting Code Factory to respond to their requests for authorization resets. To keep this on topic, I am just glad I do now have a workable solution for high-quality voices for NVDA.


On 12/14/2018 12:17 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
No working demo of the voices, no listening to sample of the voices working with NVDA, no new update with new voices or added or  fixed features in over two years... I'm sorry but no matter how good the customer support might be, this is not a company I want to throw my money at. If other users do, please have at it. I am glad some can make use of their product. I feel that it is a waste of money, and that this company is not one I would trust with a single additional dollar. I purchased this product a while back and I regret it very much. The licensing scheme is stupid, a user has no control to reset his or her own keys if needed without contacting the support, the driver has bugs which haven't been addressed, no new voices are supported even still after being promised an update for years no, and I am supposed to just blindly trust this company to keep supporting their products?

Again, anyone who knows me that this is not how I like to respond to individuals or companies on any list, and I generally have some amount of patience, reminding users of product development cycles and such, always looking for the value in a product or service. After so many broken promises and lack of follow-through, I am unable to put any weight behind this product, or the company represented.

Thanks.

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 5:56 AM Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
No, however you can use the Freedom Scientific page to hear the voices...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 04:47 de 14/12/2018, Mohith BP escreveu:
> Is there a audio / video of the voices?
>
> On 12/14/18, prem.translator@... <prem.translator@...> wrote:
>> Totally agree with Richard Wells. For now, vocalizer from Tiflotecnia works
>> well with NVDA and their customer service is excellent. The team always
>> assists me whenever I faced any problems, like the last case I posted in the
>> list, I contacted the team off list, and they help me until the problem is
>> solved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> .
>





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Re: Tifkitecnia Demos

Richard Wells
 

Nimer: You are actually expressing my feels about Code Factory. Having dealt with both, I choose Tiflotecnia. By the way, you got one thing wrong. Removing an authorization does put it back in your available activations to be used again. I bought my original add-ons from A. T. Guys and even they have a devil of a time getting Code Factory to respond to their requests for authorization resets. To keep this on topic, I am just glad I do now have a workable solution for high-quality voices for NVDA.


On 12/14/2018 12:17 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
No working demo of the voices, no listening to sample of the voices working with NVDA, no new update with new voices or added or  fixed features in over two years... I'm sorry but no matter how good the customer support might be, this is not a company I want to throw my money at. If other users do, please have at it. I am glad some can make use of their product. I feel that it is a waste of money, and that this company is not one I would trust with a single additional dollar. I purchased this product a while back and I regret it very much. The licensing scheme is stupid, a user has no control to reset his or her own keys if needed without contacting the support, the driver has bugs which haven't been addressed, no new voices are supported even still after being promised an update for years no, and I am supposed to just blindly trust this company to keep supporting their products?

Again, anyone who knows me that this is not how I like to respond to individuals or companies on any list, and I generally have some amount of patience, reminding users of product development cycles and such, always looking for the value in a product or service. After so many broken promises and lack of follow-through, I am unable to put any weight behind this product, or the company represented.

Thanks.

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 5:56 AM Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
No, however you can use the Freedom Scientific page to hear the voices...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 04:47 de 14/12/2018, Mohith BP escreveu:
> Is there a audio / video of the voices?
>
> On 12/14/18, prem.translator@... <prem.translator@...> wrote:
>> Totally agree with Richard Wells. For now, vocalizer from Tiflotecnia works
>> well with NVDA and their customer service is excellent. The team always
>> assists me whenever I faced any problems, like the last case I posted in the
>> list, I contacted the team off list, and they help me until the problem is
>> solved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> .
>





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Re: Tifkitecnia Demos

Nimer Jaber
 

No working demo of the voices, no listening to sample of the voices working with NVDA, no new update with new voices or added or  fixed features in over two years... I'm sorry but no matter how good the customer support might be, this is not a company I want to throw my money at. If other users do, please have at it. I am glad some can make use of their product. I feel that it is a waste of money, and that this company is not one I would trust with a single additional dollar. I purchased this product a while back and I regret it very much. The licensing scheme is stupid, a user has no control to reset his or her own keys if needed without contacting the support, the driver has bugs which haven't been addressed, no new voices are supported even still after being promised an update for years no, and I am supposed to just blindly trust this company to keep supporting their products?

Again, anyone who knows me that this is not how I like to respond to individuals or companies on any list, and I generally have some amount of patience, reminding users of product development cycles and such, always looking for the value in a product or service. After so many broken promises and lack of follow-through, I am unable to put any weight behind this product, or the company represented.

Thanks.


On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 5:56 AM Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
No, however you can use the Freedom Scientific page to hear the voices...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 04:47 de 14/12/2018, Mohith BP escreveu:
> Is there a audio / video of the voices?
>
> On 12/14/18, prem.translator@... <prem.translator@...> wrote:
>> Totally agree with Richard Wells. For now, vocalizer from Tiflotecnia works
>> well with NVDA and their customer service is excellent. The team always
>> assists me whenever I faced any problems, like the last case I posted in the
>> list, I contacted the team off list, and they help me until the problem is
>> solved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> .
>





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Re: Audio Issues

Tony Malykh
 

Hi Ralph,
When the beginning of every phrase is cut off - this is a problem of
many wireless headphones. This happens because headphones enter
standby mode after a few seconds of inactivity. Try my add-on
BluetoothAudio:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/BluetoothAudio.en.html
it should help with this problem. Ignore the fact that it has
bluetooth in its name, it will probably help with your wireless
headphones as well. You might need to restart NVDA after changing
sound output option for this addon to work properly.

Best
Tony

On 12/13/18, Ralph Boersema <ralph@refmail.net> wrote:
Dear Friends,

May I ask for your input on this, once again. I am running Windows 10 and
have two audio options: a Realtek sound card and a Logitech wireless headset
(not Bluetooth). Under the NVDA speech settings, when I choose one of these,
the output is through the other one. I want the Logitech wireless headset,
but have to choose Realtek to get it. However, the NVDA sounds do not have
the same good voice quality as when I used to set it to come through the
Logitech option. Especially, the initial sound in each word is often cut
off. Selecting the Realtek option, NVDA sounds come through the Logitech
headset, but system sounds come through the computer speakers.

When I raised these issues three weeks ago, several of you suggested this
would be a driver problem. I checked the settings and drivers, together with
my sighted wife and we found no irregularity. I had another person, who is
more computer savvy, look at this and he, too, said that there was no
evidence of errors with either the Realtek driver or the Logitech driver.

Is it possible to have a driver problem, even though there is no error
alert?

Any other suggestions?

Warmly,
Ralph





Re: Intermittent failure of focus in Explorer

Felix G.
 

Yes that's the exact phenomenon.
Best,
Felix

Am Fr., 14. Dez. 2018 um 16:10 Uhr schrieb Gene <gsasner@gmail.com>:


I'm not sure what you are describing. Often, in Windows 7, even with old versions of NVDA, when I open a folder, nothing is spoken automatically, such as the first item in the folder. If I move or use speak current line, what I move to is spoken but I don't know if that is what you are describing.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Windows 7 does not use UIA though which was why I specifically mentioned it
here.
I think its simply missing something, as its not every time, only
sometimes.
Its only started to happen recently say in the last couple of releases of
nvda. I guess it might be that the system has to decide if its uia or not
which might stop it getting the info from windows if its significantly
slower than it used to be. My machine is still the same though, so unless
something I installed is doing tit , I'm at a loss.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Felix G." <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intermittent failure of focus in Explorer


Hi!
It's a long-standing issue. I reported it at:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8389
It's probably UIA-related. On Windows 10 build 1809 I haven't seen it
thus far, so it may have been solved there.
Best,
Felix

Am Fr., 14. Dez. 2018 um 11:55 Uhr schrieb Brian's Mail list account
via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>:

This is Windows 7, and only seems to have started to happen recently.
I have had a short cut to the root of drive C: on my desktop, but it can
happen at any time in opening drives or folders, where the actual focused
drive is not spoken by nvda. Here is the log file. Its not very long. I
select the shortcut with L then hit enter wait and nothing is spoken then
I
did an nvda/f1 to see what was going on. there is an exception and
nothing
gets focus.


IO - speech.speak (10:41:26.296):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Local Disk (C) 44 of 72']

DEBUG - queueHandler.pumpAll (10:41:26.299):

generator 4809 finished

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (10:41:27.397):

Input: kb(desktop):enter

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (10:41:42.644):

Input: kb(desktop):NVDA+f1

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo
(10:41:42.894):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'Local Disk (C)'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: False

Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object at
0x055BCC30>

Python class mro: (<class
'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem'>,
<class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithoutCellObjects'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItemWithoutColumnSupport'>,
<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class
'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class
'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>,
<class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: None

location: RectLTWH(left=228, top=425, width=76, height=68)

value: None

appModule: <'explorer' (appName u'explorer', process ID 1660) at address
5137ab0>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft\xae Windows\xae Operating System'

appModule.productVersion: u'6.1.7600.16385'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 65782

windowClassName: u'SysListView32'

windowControlID: 1

windowStyle: 1442855488

windowThreadID: 1664

windowText: u'FolderView'

displayText: u'Local Disk (C)'

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x837ca08 at 4f77a80>

IAccessibleChildID: 44

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=65782, objectID=-4, childID=44

IAccessible accName: u'Local Disk (C)'

IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_LISTITEM

IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTED,
STATE_SYSTEM_MULTISELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_VALID
(19922946)

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147352573, 'Member not found.',
(None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: None





So has any other windows 7 user got this issue? Also if anyone can shed
any
light on it, be my guest. It has been fine.
Brian
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Re: Intermittent failure of focus in Explorer

Gene
 

I'm not sure what you are describing.  Often, in Windows 7, even with old versions of NVDA, when I open a folder, nothing is spoken automatically, such as the first item in the folder.  If I move or use speak current line, what I move to is spoken but I don't know if that is what you are describing.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
> Windows 7 does not use UIA though which was why I specifically mentioned it
> here.
>  I think its simply missing something, as its not every time, only
> sometimes.
>  Its only started to happen recently say in the last couple of releases of
> nvda. I guess it might be that the system has to decide if its uia or not
> which might stop it getting the info from windows if its significantly
> slower than it used to be. My machine is still the same though, so unless
> something I installed is doing tit , I'm at a loss.
>  Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Felix G." <constantlyvariable@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 1:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Intermittent failure of focus in Explorer
>
>
> > Hi!
> > It's a long-standing issue. I reported it at:
> > https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8389
> > It's probably UIA-related. On Windows 10 build 1809 I haven't seen it
> > thus far, so it may have been solved there.
> > Best,
> > Felix
> >
> > Am Fr., 14. Dez. 2018 um 11:55 Uhr schrieb Brian's Mail list account
> > via Groups.Io <bglists@...>:
> >>
> >> This is Windows 7, and only seems to have started to happen recently.
> >>  I have had a short cut to the root of drive C: on my desktop, but it can
> >> happen at any time in opening drives or folders, where the actual focused
> >> drive is not spoken by nvda. Here is the log file. Its not very long. I
> >> select the shortcut with L then hit enter wait and nothing is spoken then
> >> I
> >> did an nvda/f1 to see what was going on. there is an exception and
> >> nothing
> >> gets focus.
> >>
> >>
> >> IO - speech.speak (10:41:26.296):
> >>
> >> Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Local Disk (C) 44 of 72']
> >>
> >> DEBUG - queueHandler.pumpAll (10:41:26.299):
> >>
> >> generator 4809 finished
> >>
> >> IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (10:41:27.397):
> >>
> >> Input: kb(desktop):enter
> >>
> >> IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (10:41:42.644):
> >>
> >> Input: kb(desktop):NVDA+f1
> >>
> >> INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo
> >> (10:41:42.894):
> >>
> >> Developer info for navigator object:
> >>
> >> name: u'Local Disk (C)'
> >>
> >> role: ROLE_LISTITEM
> >>
> >> states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_SELECTED
> >>
> >> isFocusable: True
> >>
> >> hasFocus: False
> >>
> >> Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object at
> >> 0x055BCC30>
> >>
> >> Python class mro: (<class
> >> 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem'>,
> >> <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class
> >> 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithoutCellObjects'>, <class
> >> 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItemWithoutColumnSupport'>,
> >> <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class
> >> 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class
> >> 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class
> >> 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>,
> >> <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)
> >>
> >> description: None
> >>
> >> location: RectLTWH(left=228, top=425, width=76, height=68)
> >>
> >> value: None
> >>
> >> appModule: <'explorer' (appName u'explorer', process ID 1660) at address
> >> 5137ab0>
> >>
> >> appModule.productName: u'Microsoft\xae Windows\xae Operating System'
> >>
> >> appModule.productVersion: u'6.1.7600.16385'
> >>
> >> TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>
> >>
> >> windowHandle: 65782
> >>
> >> windowClassName: u'SysListView32'
> >>
> >> windowControlID: 1
> >>
> >> windowStyle: 1442855488
> >>
> >> windowThreadID: 1664
> >>
> >> windowText: u'FolderView'
> >>
> >> displayText: u'Local Disk (C)'
> >>
> >> IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x837ca08 at 4f77a80>
> >>
> >> IAccessibleChildID: 44
> >>
> >> IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=65782, objectID=-4, childID=44
> >>
> >> IAccessible accName: u'Local Disk (C)'
> >>
> >> IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_LISTITEM
> >>
> >> IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTED,
> >> STATE_SYSTEM_MULTISELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_VALID
> >> (19922946)
> >>
> >> IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147352573, 'Member not found.',
> >> (None, None, None, 0, None))
> >>
> >> IAccessible accValue: None
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> So has any other windows 7 user got this issue? Also if anyone can shed
> >> any
> >> light on it, be my guest. It has been fine.
> >>  Brian
> >> bglists@...
> >> Sent via blueyonder.
> >> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> >> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> >> in the display name field.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>



Re: Intermittent failure of focus in Explorer

Felix G.
 

Hello Brian,
actually Windows 7 does use UIA quite a lot, so it may well be involved.
Best,
Felix

Am Fr., 14. Dez. 2018 um 15:02 Uhr schrieb Brian's Mail list account
via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>:


Windows 7 does not use UIA though which was why I specifically mentioned it
here.
I think its simply missing something, as its not every time, only
sometimes.
Its only started to happen recently say in the last couple of releases of
nvda. I guess it might be that the system has to decide if its uia or not
which might stop it getting the info from windows if its significantly
slower than it used to be. My machine is still the same though, so unless
something I installed is doing tit , I'm at a loss.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Felix G." <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intermittent failure of focus in Explorer


Hi!
It's a long-standing issue. I reported it at:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8389
It's probably UIA-related. On Windows 10 build 1809 I haven't seen it
thus far, so it may have been solved there.
Best,
Felix

Am Fr., 14. Dez. 2018 um 11:55 Uhr schrieb Brian's Mail list account
via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>:

This is Windows 7, and only seems to have started to happen recently.
I have had a short cut to the root of drive C: on my desktop, but it can
happen at any time in opening drives or folders, where the actual focused
drive is not spoken by nvda. Here is the log file. Its not very long. I
select the shortcut with L then hit enter wait and nothing is spoken then
I
did an nvda/f1 to see what was going on. there is an exception and
nothing
gets focus.


IO - speech.speak (10:41:26.296):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Local Disk (C) 44 of 72']

DEBUG - queueHandler.pumpAll (10:41:26.299):

generator 4809 finished

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (10:41:27.397):

Input: kb(desktop):enter

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (10:41:42.644):

Input: kb(desktop):NVDA+f1

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo
(10:41:42.894):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'Local Disk (C)'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: False

Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object at
0x055BCC30>

Python class mro: (<class
'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem'>,
<class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithoutCellObjects'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItemWithoutColumnSupport'>,
<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class
'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class
'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>,
<class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: None

location: RectLTWH(left=228, top=425, width=76, height=68)

value: None

appModule: <'explorer' (appName u'explorer', process ID 1660) at address
5137ab0>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft\xae Windows\xae Operating System'

appModule.productVersion: u'6.1.7600.16385'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 65782

windowClassName: u'SysListView32'

windowControlID: 1

windowStyle: 1442855488

windowThreadID: 1664

windowText: u'FolderView'

displayText: u'Local Disk (C)'

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x837ca08 at 4f77a80>

IAccessibleChildID: 44

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=65782, objectID=-4, childID=44

IAccessible accName: u'Local Disk (C)'

IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_LISTITEM

IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTED,
STATE_SYSTEM_MULTISELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_VALID
(19922946)

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147352573, 'Member not found.',
(None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: None





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any
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Re: Intermittent failure of focus in Explorer

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Windows 7 does not use UIA though which was why I specifically mentioned it here.
I think its simply missing something, as its not every time, only sometimes.
Its only started to happen recently say in the last couple of releases of nvda. I guess it might be that the system has to decide if its uia or not which might stop it getting the info from windows if its significantly slower than it used to be. My machine is still the same though, so unless something I installed is doing tit , I'm at a loss.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Felix G." <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intermittent failure of focus in Explorer


Hi!
It's a long-standing issue. I reported it at:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8389
It's probably UIA-related. On Windows 10 build 1809 I haven't seen it
thus far, so it may have been solved there.
Best,
Felix

Am Fr., 14. Dez. 2018 um 11:55 Uhr schrieb Brian's Mail list account
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This is Windows 7, and only seems to have started to happen recently.
I have had a short cut to the root of drive C: on my desktop, but it can
happen at any time in opening drives or folders, where the actual focused
drive is not spoken by nvda. Here is the log file. Its not very long. I
select the shortcut with L then hit enter wait and nothing is spoken then I
did an nvda/f1 to see what was going on. there is an exception and nothing
gets focus.


IO - speech.speak (10:41:26.296):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Local Disk (C) 44 of 72']

DEBUG - queueHandler.pumpAll (10:41:26.299):

generator 4809 finished

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (10:41:27.397):

Input: kb(desktop):enter

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (10:41:42.644):

Input: kb(desktop):NVDA+f1

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo
(10:41:42.894):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'Local Disk (C)'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: False

Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object at
0x055BCC30>

Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem'>,
<class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithoutCellObjects'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItemWithoutColumnSupport'>,
<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class
'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>,
<class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: None

location: RectLTWH(left=228, top=425, width=76, height=68)

value: None

appModule: <'explorer' (appName u'explorer', process ID 1660) at address
5137ab0>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft\xae Windows\xae Operating System'

appModule.productVersion: u'6.1.7600.16385'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 65782

windowClassName: u'SysListView32'

windowControlID: 1

windowStyle: 1442855488

windowThreadID: 1664

windowText: u'FolderView'

displayText: u'Local Disk (C)'

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x837ca08 at 4f77a80>

IAccessibleChildID: 44

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=65782, objectID=-4, childID=44

IAccessible accName: u'Local Disk (C)'

IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_LISTITEM

IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTED,
STATE_SYSTEM_MULTISELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_VALID
(19922946)

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147352573, 'Member not found.',
(None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: None





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light on it, be my guest. It has been fine.
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Re: rc2

Ian Robinson <ian228@...>
 

Hi,

 

I got the Ease Of Access dialogue after installing RC1.  Haven’t installed RC2 yet.

 

Regards.

 

Ian

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Metzler
Sent: 14 December 2018 10:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] rc2

 

Hi All,

 

I just installed rc2.  It’s working fine.  I noticed that when nvda restarted it brought up ease of access settings is this supposed to happen?  Thanks,  

 

Regards, Gary KN4OX

Sendto: gmtravel@...

 


Re: Intermittent failure of focus in Explorer

Felix G.
 

Hi!
It's a long-standing issue. I reported it at:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8389
It's probably UIA-related. On Windows 10 build 1809 I haven't seen it
thus far, so it may have been solved there.
Best,
Felix

Am Fr., 14. Dez. 2018 um 11:55 Uhr schrieb Brian's Mail list account
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This is Windows 7, and only seems to have started to happen recently.
I have had a short cut to the root of drive C: on my desktop, but it can
happen at any time in opening drives or folders, where the actual focused
drive is not spoken by nvda. Here is the log file. Its not very long. I
select the shortcut with L then hit enter wait and nothing is spoken then I
did an nvda/f1 to see what was going on. there is an exception and nothing
gets focus.


IO - speech.speak (10:41:26.296):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Local Disk (C) 44 of 72']

DEBUG - queueHandler.pumpAll (10:41:26.299):

generator 4809 finished

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (10:41:27.397):

Input: kb(desktop):enter

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (10:41:42.644):

Input: kb(desktop):NVDA+f1

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo
(10:41:42.894):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'Local Disk (C)'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: False

Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object at
0x055BCC30>

Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem'>,
<class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithoutCellObjects'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItemWithoutColumnSupport'>,
<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class
'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>,
<class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: None

location: RectLTWH(left=228, top=425, width=76, height=68)

value: None

appModule: <'explorer' (appName u'explorer', process ID 1660) at address
5137ab0>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft\xae Windows\xae Operating System'

appModule.productVersion: u'6.1.7600.16385'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 65782

windowClassName: u'SysListView32'

windowControlID: 1

windowStyle: 1442855488

windowThreadID: 1664

windowText: u'FolderView'

displayText: u'Local Disk (C)'

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x837ca08 at 4f77a80>

IAccessibleChildID: 44

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=65782, objectID=-4, childID=44

IAccessible accName: u'Local Disk (C)'

IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_LISTITEM

IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTED,
STATE_SYSTEM_MULTISELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_VALID
(19922946)

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147352573, 'Member not found.',
(None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: None





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light on it, be my guest. It has been fine.
Brian
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Re: Tifkitecnia Demos

Rui Fontes
 

No, however you can use the Freedom Scientific page to hear the voices...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 04:47 de 14/12/2018, Mohith BP escreveu:

Is there a audio / video of the voices?
On 12/14/18, prem.translator@gmail.com <prem.translator@gmail.com> wrote:
Totally agree with Richard Wells. For now, vocalizer from Tiflotecnia works
well with NVDA and their customer service is excellent. The team always
assists me whenever I faced any problems, like the last case I posted in the
list, I contacted the team off list, and they help me until the problem is
solved.



.


Re: Tifkitecnia Demos

Rui Fontes
 

Sure! We refund the payment during the first 15 days.

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 10:00 de 14/12/2018, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escreveu:

OK I'll ask.
Why not, who would buy with no chance to test it, or are you doing a refund on uninstall system?
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Rui Fontes" <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos

By now, we have no demo version.

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 20:59 de 13/12/2018, Earle Zwicker escreveu:
Just wondering if Tiflotecnia offers demos of their Vocalizer add-on? I went to their download page and downloaded the latest driver and a bundle of English compact voices. I installed them and got a message that the demo was expired. Am I doing something wrong, or is there no demo available.

Earle





Re: Waterfox

 

I am now trying the portable version of waterfox and nothing seems to read, at all. Is there accessibility properties I should change in about:config or something? I've switched because FF took away the ability to read RSS feeds in their browser.


Intermittent failure of focus in Explorer

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This is Windows 7, and only seems to have started to happen recently.
I have had a short cut to the root of drive C: on my desktop, but it can happen at any time in opening drives or folders, where the actual focused drive is not spoken by nvda. Here is the log file. Its not very long. I select the shortcut with L then hit enter wait and nothing is spoken then I did an nvda/f1 to see what was going on. there is an exception and nothing gets focus.


IO - speech.speak (10:41:26.296):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Local Disk (C) 44 of 72']

DEBUG - queueHandler.pumpAll (10:41:26.299):

generator 4809 finished

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (10:41:27.397):

Input: kb(desktop):enter

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (10:41:42.644):

Input: kb(desktop):NVDA+f1

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (10:41:42.894):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'Local Disk (C)'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: False

Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object at 0x055BCC30>

Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithoutCellObjects'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItemWithoutColumnSupport'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: None

location: RectLTWH(left=228, top=425, width=76, height=68)

value: None

appModule: <'explorer' (appName u'explorer', process ID 1660) at address 5137ab0>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft\xae Windows\xae Operating System'

appModule.productVersion: u'6.1.7600.16385'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 65782

windowClassName: u'SysListView32'

windowControlID: 1

windowStyle: 1442855488

windowThreadID: 1664

windowText: u'FolderView'

displayText: u'Local Disk (C)'

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x837ca08 at 4f77a80>

IAccessibleChildID: 44

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=65782, objectID=-4, childID=44

IAccessible accName: u'Local Disk (C)'

IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_LISTITEM

IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTED, STATE_SYSTEM_MULTISELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_VALID (19922946)

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147352573, 'Member not found.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: None

 



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Re: rc2

Gary Metzler
 

When this came up I was able to make some changes to my settings. Once I
dismissed it all is well.

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Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 5:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] rc2

I would not have thought so, but its not the first time I've seen this
reported here.
I'll leave it to the windows 10 experts to decode, but it might be due to
a particular version of windows 10.
Brian

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From: "Gary Metzler" <gmtravel@comcast.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 10:29 AM
Subject: [nvda] rc2


Hi All,



I just installed rc2. It's working fine. I noticed that when nvda
restarted it brought up ease of access settings is this supposed to
happen?
Thanks,



Regards, Gary KN4OX

Sendto: gmtravel@comcast.net







Re: rc2

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I would not have thought so, but its not the first time I've seen this reported here.
I'll leave it to the windows 10 experts to decode, but it might be due to a particular version of windows 10.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Metzler" <gmtravel@comcast.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 10:29 AM
Subject: [nvda] rc2


Hi All,



I just installed rc2. It's working fine. I noticed that when nvda
restarted it brought up ease of access settings is this supposed to happen?
Thanks,



Regards, Gary KN4OX

Sendto: gmtravel@comcast.net






Alert groups.io messages in spam again in the last few days

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Just in case you have not looked recently. I do not know if this is universal, but certainly my isp is marking them 30 in the last two days, plus some from the issue tracker mail list.
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rc2

Gary Metzler
 

Hi All,

 

I just installed rc2.  It’s working fine.  I noticed that when nvda restarted it brought up ease of access settings is this supposed to happen?  Thanks,  

 

Regards, Gary KN4OX

Sendto: gmtravel@...

 


Re: Release Candidate 2 for NVDA 2018.4 is available

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When you say this version, do you mean as against the last stable version of nvda, if you do then.
Highlights of this release include performance improvements in recent Mozilla Firefox versions, announcement of emojis with all synthesizers, reporting of replied/forwarded status in Outlook, reporting the distance of the cursor to the edge of a Microsoft Word page, and many bug fixes.
New Features
• New braille tables: Chinese (China, Mandarin) grade 1 and grade 2. (#5553)
• Replied / Forwarded status is now reported on mail items in the Microsoft Outlook message list. (#6911)
• NVDA is now able to read descriptions for emoji as well as other characters that are part of the Unicode Common Locale Data Repository. (#6523)
• In Microsoft Word, the cursor's distance from the top and left edges of the page can be reported by pressing NVDA+numpadDelete. (#1939)
• In Google Sheets with braille mode enabled, NVDA no longer announces 'selected' on every cell when moving focus between cells. (#8879)
• Added support for Foxit Reader and Foxit Phantom PDF. (#8944)
• Added support for the DBeaver database tool. (#8905)
Changes
• "Report help balloons" in the Object Presentations dialog has been renamed to "Report notifications" to include reporting of toast notifications in Windows 8 and later. (#5789)
• In NVDA's keyboard settings, the checkboxes to enable or disable NVDA modifier keys are now displayed in a list rather than as separate checkboxes.
• NVDA will no longer present redundant information when reading clock system tray on some versions of Windows. (#4364)
• Updated liblouis braille translator to version 3.7.0. (#8697)
• Updated eSpeak-NG to commit 919f3240cbb.
Bug Fixes
• In Outlook 2016/365, the category and flag status are reported for messages. (#8603)
• When NVDA is set to languages such as Kirgyz, Mongolian or Macedonian, it no longer shows a dialog on start-up warning that the language is not supported by the Operating System. (#8064)
• Moving the mouse to the navigator object will now much more accurately move the mouse to the browse mode position in Mozilla Firefox, Google Chrome and Acrobat Reader DC. (#6460)
• Interacting with combo boxes on the web in Firefox, Chrome and Internet Explorer has been improved. (#8664)
• If running on the Japanese version of Windows XP or Vista, NVDA now displays OS version requirements message as expected. (#8771)
• Performance improvements when navigating large pages with lots of dynamic changes in Mozilla Firefox. (#8678)
• Braille no longer shows font attributes if they have been disabled in Document Formatting settings. (#7615)
• NVDA no longer fails to track focus in File Explorer and other applications using UI Automation when another app is busy (such as batch processing audio). (#7345)
• In ARIA menus on the web, the Escape key will now be passed through to the menu and no longer turn off focus mode unconditionally. (#3215)
• In the new Gmail web interface, when using quick navigation inside messages while reading them, the entire body of the message is no longer reported after the element to which you just navigated. (#8887)
• After updating NVDA, Browsers such as Firefox and google Chrome should no longer crash, and browse mode should continue to correctly reflect updates to any currently loaded documents. (#7641)
• NVDA no longer reports clickable multiple times in a row when navigating clickable content in Browse Mode. (#7430)
• Gestures performed on baum Vario 40 braille displays will no longer fail to execute. (#8894)
• In Google Slides with Mozilla Firefox, NVDA no longer reports selected text on every control with focus. (#8964)
Changes for Developers
• gui.nvdaControls now contains two classes to create accessible lists with check boxes. (#7325)
◦ CustomCheckListBox is an accessible subclass of wx.CheckListBox.
◦ AutoWidthColumnCheckListCtrl adds accessible check boxes to an AutoWidthColumnListCtrl, which itself is based on wx.ListCtrl.
• If you need to make a wx widget accessible which isn't already, it is possible to do so by using an instance of gui.accPropServer.IAccPropServer_impl. (#7491)
◦ See the implementation of gui.nvdaControls.ListCtrlAccPropServer for more info.
• Updated configobj to 5.1.0dev commit 5b5de48a. (#4470)
• The config.post_configProfileSwitch action now takes the optional prevConf keyword argument, allowing handlers to take action based on differences between configuration before and after the profile switch. (#8758)

I think you need to visit the change log on the snapshots web site if you want to look at RC1 against RC2.
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Release Candidate 2 for NVDA 2018.4 is available


good day,
I would like to know what has changed in this version?


Em 14/12/2018 03:30, Quentin Christensen escreveu:
Great to hear!

All the best,

Quentin.

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 4:14 PM Rosemarie Chavarria
<knitqueen2007@gmail.com <mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, Quentin,


I just turned on my computer and saw the update and grabbed it.
So-far it's working great for me.


Rosemarie



On 12/13/2018 9:11 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,

NVDA 2018.4 rc2 is now available. We encourage you to download
the beta and provide feedback. This is a release candidate,
meaning that unless any critical bugs are found, this will be
identical to the final 2018.4 release.

https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2018-4rc2-released/

Kind regards

Quentin.
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Re: Audio Issues

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There most certainly is. Often drivers chop the start and end of sound due to latency in the code that trips on and off the audio. You mainly seem to find this on laptops for some reason.
As for the difference in which sounds come from where. This too is often drivers not looking at the sound output selection flags correctly. Its very hard to give a definitive answer to this on, but I found that one particular audio stream was using the windows sound mapper while the others were using the bespoke mapper for whichever sound card or whatever the driver had. Sometimes these can be changed independently. I've noticed that some sappi voices sound very rough through the sound mapper but a lot cleaner through the realtech or the Behringer that I have but as to quite why.

My brain hurts!

Not much help I know, but such is the way of things in driver land.
I do not think Microsoft test third party drivers correctly for use with screenreaders personally.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph Boersema" <ralph@refmail.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 2:03 AM
Subject: [nvda] Audio Issues


Dear Friends,

May I ask for your input on this, once again. I am running Windows 10 and have two audio options: a Realtek sound card and a Logitech wireless headset (not Bluetooth). Under the NVDA speech settings, when I choose one of these, the output is through the other one. I want the Logitech wireless headset, but have to choose Realtek to get it. However, the NVDA sounds do not have the same good voice quality as when I used to set it to come through the Logitech option. Especially, the initial sound in each word is often cut off. Selecting the Realtek option, NVDA sounds come through the Logitech headset, but system sounds come through the computer speakers.

When I raised these issues three weeks ago, several of you suggested this would be a driver problem. I checked the settings and drivers, together with my sighted wife and we found no irregularity. I had another person, who is more computer savvy, look at this and he, too, said that there was no evidence of errors with either the Realtek driver or the Logitech driver.

Is it possible to have a driver problem, even though there is no error alert?

Any other suggestions?

Warmly,
Ralph