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Re: questions about .pdf forms

 

Brilliant. I never thought about this solution. I will tell you how it goes.

 

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 4:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] questions about .pdf forms

 

Why don't you send it to yourself as a message?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 3:00 PM

Subject: [nvda] questions about .pdf forms

 

Hello list. I have a few questions about editing.pdf forms. We have downloaded a few sample thank you letters for our use. They are in .pdf format, and appear to be very accessible. One thing we are not sure of is if the previous sample content shows up when we either send the letter to someone or print it out to be sent. We see what was there before, when we are not in focus mode. When we go into focus mode, we are seeing only what is written by us. If others need to take a look at this, I’ll put a link to it on Dropbox to be accessed.

 

Again, I’m curious to know if the sample content can be seen by anyone else, other than us. If it can be, that’s a big problem. It could be that there is something I don’t understand about working with these types of forms. I guess I need an explanation of how these templates work, and what happens when you edit one. Does the reader see only what you want them to see, and not the template text? I pray this is clear enough. If not, ask questions, and I’ll do my best to answer.


Re: questions about .pdf forms

Gene
 

Why don't you send it to yourself as a message?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 3:00 PM
Subject: [nvda] questions about .pdf forms

Hello list. I have a few questions about editing.pdf forms. We have downloaded a few sample thank you letters for our use. They are in .pdf format, and appear to be very accessible. One thing we are not sure of is if the previous sample content shows up when we either send the letter to someone or print it out to be sent. We see what was there before, when we are not in focus mode. When we go into focus mode, we are seeing only what is written by us. If others need to take a look at this, I’ll put a link to it on Dropbox to be accessed.

 

Again, I’m curious to know if the sample content can be seen by anyone else, other than us. If it can be, that’s a big problem. It could be that there is something I don’t understand about working with these types of forms. I guess I need an explanation of how these templates work, and what happens when you edit one. Does the reader see only what you want them to see, and not the template text? I pray this is clear enough. If not, ask questions, and I’ll do my best to answer.


Re: questions about .pdf forms

Antony Stone
 

I think your best bet here is to:

a) post a link to the sample forms you're talking about so we can see them for
ourselves, rather than guessing how they may have been set up

b) fill in such a form and post the results (or a link to the results; I can't
remember whether this list accepts attachments or not), so we can let you know
what we can see and what we can't

c) get a sighted person (and there are some on this list) to tell you what
they can see (and what they can't) in the final result, which I guess is what
you're mostly interested in, when it finally comes down to it.


Regards,

Antony.

On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 22:00:19, Governor staten wrote:

Hello list. I have a few questions about editing.pdf forms. We have
downloaded a few sample thank you letters for our use. They are in .pdf
format, and appear to be very accessible. One thing we are not sure of is
if the previous sample content shows up when we either send the letter to
someone or print it out to be sent. We see what was there before, when we
are not in focus mode. When we go into focus mode, we are seeing only what
is written by us. If others need to take a look at this, I'll put a link
to it on Dropbox to be accessed.

Again, I'm curious to know if the sample content can be seen by anyone
else, other than us. If it can be, that's a big problem. It could be that
there is something I don't understand about working with these types of
forms. I guess I need an explanation of how these templates work, and what
happens when you edit one. Does the reader see only what you want them to
see, and not the template text? I pray this is clear enough. If not, ask
questions, and I'll do my best to answer.
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Re: NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

Again, my apology. Next time I will start a new thread.
Please don’t quarrel about my innocent error.
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laz
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 3:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

No. When someone sends a new message by hijacking an existing thread and deleting all traces of the previous thread is still an incorrect way to send a new message. There's information in the headers which keeps it associated with the original thread. The only way to send a new message to the list is by sending a new message to the list address.

Laz moderator

On 12/12/18, Kwork <istherelife@gmail.com> wrote:
Um, be careful as the subject line agreed with the content of the
message. I think it was you who hijacked it away from the subject.
Make sure to read the subject line along with the content of a message
so as to avoid embarrassment.

On 12/12/2018 12:46 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Please do not hijack a thread by replying to it and changing both the
subject and the topic of discussion.

Please start a new thread for a new topic.

Thanks,


Antony.

On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 20:03:09, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Hi All,
I am no computer whiz, and I would appreciate, those of you who are,
to take a look at the www.spreely.com social network to see what can
be done from our end to make the sight more accessible. These are
some of the issues I encountered so far: Links do not open right
away; Editing to comment or post are very difficult as the voice
becomes silent and the cursor tends to get stuck; Difficult to
locate received comments and notifications; The developers Marc and
Terry will also appreciate receiving your experts feedback. Many
thanks Blessings Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, December
12, 2018 1:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject:

And if all else fails often typing it into google can give a clue.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird error on boot.


If you think its coming from that specific program then try setting
it not to start on logon see fi that fixes it

If it fixes the issue then reinstall the program see if that fixes

Otherwise the error is to generic to be certain what is causing it

Good luck
From: John Isige
Sent: 12 December 2018 18:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.

Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is
coming from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated
Windows to 1809 and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.


"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."


Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix
it? I suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the
error didn't show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.



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questions about .pdf forms

 

Hello list. I have a few questions about editing.pdf forms. We have downloaded a few sample thank you letters for our use. They are in .pdf format, and appear to be very accessible. One thing we are not sure of is if the previous sample content shows up when we either send the letter to someone or print it out to be sent. We see what was there before, when we are not in focus mode. When we go into focus mode, we are seeing only what is written by us. If others need to take a look at this, I’ll put a link to it on Dropbox to be accessed.

 

Again, I’m curious to know if the sample content can be seen by anyone else, other than us. If it can be, that’s a big problem. It could be that there is something I don’t understand about working with these types of forms. I guess I need an explanation of how these templates work, and what happens when you edit one. Does the reader see only what you want them to see, and not the template text? I pray this is clear enough. If not, ask questions, and I’ll do my best to answer.


Re: NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

No sometimes if manually quoting you inadvertently move the wrong message quoted into the new thread.
Often this then needs to be trimmed, but there are many occasions when this sort of thing happens and I tend to ignore quotes if the sub line agrees and imagine the person nearly hi jacked the thread. realises and cuts and pastes to a new thread but forgets to edit below the sig line.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network


The subject does agree with the content.

It was posted as a reply to a totally different thread (original subject "Weird
error on boot.", as you can see if you read the message which Pascal replied
to below).

Yes, I could have created my own new thread to discuss this topic, but I
thought replying to the specific email I was complaing about would make the
point a little more directly, and to the person who hijacked the original
thread. I apologise if this was not clear.


Antony.

On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 21:16:05, Kwork wrote:

Um, be careful as the subject line agreed with the content of the
message. I think it was you who hijacked it away from the subject. Make
sure to read the subject line along with the content of a message so as
to avoid embarrassment.

On 12/12/2018 12:46 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Please do not hijack a thread by replying to it and changing both the
subject and the topic of discussion.

Please start a new thread for a new topic.

Thanks,


Antony.

On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 20:03:09, Pascal Lambert wrote:
Hi All,
I am no computer whiz, and I would appreciate, those of you who are, to
take a look at the www.spreely.com social network to see what can be
done from our end to make the sight more accessible. These are some of
the issues I encountered so far: Links do not open right away;
Editing to comment or post are very difficult as the voice becomes
silent and the cursor tends to get stuck; Difficult to locate received
comments and notifications;
The developers Marc and Terry will also appreciate receiving your
experts feedback. Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, December 12,
2018 1:50 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject:

And if all else fails often typing it into google can give a clue.

Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird error on boot.


If you think its coming from that specific program then try setting it
not to start on logon see fi that fixes it

If it fixes the issue then reinstall the program see if that fixes

Otherwise the error is to generic to be certain what is causing it

Good luck
From: John Isige
Sent: 12 December 2018 18:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.

Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming
from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809
and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.


"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."


Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I
suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't
show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.
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Re: NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Laz
 

No. When someone sends a new message by hijacking an existing thread
and deleting all traces of the previous thread is still an incorrect
way to send a new message. There's information in the headers which
keeps it associated with the original thread. The only way to send a
new message to the list is by sending a new message to the list
address.

Laz moderator

On 12/12/18, Kwork <istherelife@gmail.com> wrote:
Um, be careful as the subject line agreed with the content of the
message. I think it was you who hijacked it away from the subject. Make
sure to read the subject line along with the content of a message so as
to avoid embarrassment.

On 12/12/2018 12:46 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Please do not hijack a thread by replying to it and changing both the
subject
and the topic of discussion.

Please start a new thread for a new topic.

Thanks,


Antony.

On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 20:03:09, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Hi All,
I am no computer whiz, and I would appreciate, those of you who are, to
take a look at the www.spreely.com social network to see what can be
done
from our end to make the sight more accessible. These are some of the
issues I encountered so far: Links do not open right away;
Editing to comment or post are very difficult as the voice becomes
silent
and the cursor tends to get stuck; Difficult to locate received comments
and notifications;
The developers Marc and Terry will also appreciate receiving your
experts
feedback. Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 1:50
PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject:

And if all else fails often typing it into google can give a clue.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird error on boot.


If you think its coming from that specific program then try setting it
not
to start on logon see fi that fixes it

If it fixes the issue then reinstall the program see if that fixes

Otherwise the error is to generic to be certain what is causing it

Good luck
From: John Isige
Sent: 12 December 2018 18:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.

Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming
from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809
and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.


"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."


Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I
suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't
show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.


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Re: NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

Hi all,

My apology for unintentionally hijacking a thread message.  I never initiated a new thread on this forum and did not think it would cause any concern after I changed the subject line.

Mea culpa.

Regards

Blessings

Pascal

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 3:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

 

The message is about starting a completely new message when starting a new thread.  If you change the subject line in an old message, and remove all the message content. it still has information embedded in the message that causes it to be placed in the old thread if people read mail by conversation.  It may also cause the message to be placed in the old thread in the archive. 

 

In addition the message said:

Please do not hijack a thread by replying to it and changing both the subject
> and the topic of discussion.  The message was written about both the subject and the message.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

From: Kwork

Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 2:16 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

 

Um, be careful as the subject line agreed with the content of the
message. I think it was you who hijacked it away from the subject. Make
sure to read the subject line along with the content of a message so as
to avoid embarrassment.

On 12/12/2018 12:46 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
> Please do not hijack a thread by replying to it and changing both the subject
> and the topic of discussion.
>
> Please start a new thread for a new topic.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 20:03:09, Pascal Lambert wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> I am no computer whiz, and I would appreciate, those of you who are, to
>> take a look at the www.spreely.com social network to see what can be done
>> from our end to make the sight more accessible.  These are some of the
>> issues I encountered so far: Links do not open right away;
>> Editing to comment or post are very difficult as the voice becomes silent
>> and the cursor tends to get stuck; Difficult to locate received comments
>> and notifications;
>> The developers Marc and Terry will also appreciate receiving your experts
>> feedback. Many thanks
>> Blessings
>> Pascal
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
>> Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 1:50 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject:
>>
>> And if all else fails often typing it into google can give a clue.
>>   Brian
>>
>> bglists@...
>> Sent via blueyonder.
>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>> in the display name field.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley@...>
>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird error on boot.
>>
>>
>> If you think its coming from that specific program then try setting it not
>> to start on logon see fi that fixes it
>>
>>   If it fixes the issue then reinstall the program see if that fixes
>>
>> Otherwise the error is to generic to be certain what is causing it
>>
>> Good luck
>> From: John Isige
>> Sent: 12 December 2018 18:04
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.
>>
>> Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming
>> from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809
>> and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.
>>
>>
>> "Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
>> dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."
>>
>>
>> Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I
>> suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't
>> show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.


Re: NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

grin. a closed mouth gathers no feet. I get caught by that one all the time!
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kwork" <istherelife@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network


Um, be careful as the subject line agreed with the content of the message. I think it was you who hijacked it away from the subject. Make sure to read the subject line along with the content of a message so as to avoid embarrassment.

On 12/12/2018 12:46 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Please do not hijack a thread by replying to it and changing both the subject
and the topic of discussion.

Please start a new thread for a new topic.

Thanks,


Antony.

On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 20:03:09, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Hi All,
I am no computer whiz, and I would appreciate, those of you who are, to
take a look at the www.spreely.com social network to see what can be done
from our end to make the sight more accessible. These are some of the
issues I encountered so far: Links do not open right away;
Editing to comment or post are very difficult as the voice becomes silent
and the cursor tends to get stuck; Difficult to locate received comments
and notifications;
The developers Marc and Terry will also appreciate receiving your experts
feedback. Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 1:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject:

And if all else fails often typing it into google can give a clue.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird error on boot.


If you think its coming from that specific program then try setting it not
to start on logon see fi that fixes it

If it fixes the issue then reinstall the program see if that fixes

Otherwise the error is to generic to be certain what is causing it

Good luck
From: John Isige
Sent: 12 December 2018 18:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.

Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming
from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809
and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.


"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."


Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I
suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't
show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.


Re: NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Well that does not show up as being done for me. maybe some mail handlers are more explicit than others are.
Brian

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Please address personal E-mail to:-
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network


Please do not hijack a thread by replying to it and changing both the subject
and the topic of discussion.

Please start a new thread for a new topic.

Thanks,


Antony.

On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 20:03:09, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Hi All,
I am no computer whiz, and I would appreciate, those of you who are, to
take a look at the www.spreely.com social network to see what can be done
from our end to make the sight more accessible. These are some of the
issues I encountered so far: Links do not open right away;
Editing to comment or post are very difficult as the voice becomes silent
and the cursor tends to get stuck; Difficult to locate received comments
and notifications;
The developers Marc and Terry will also appreciate receiving your experts
feedback. Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 1:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject:

And if all else fails often typing it into google can give a clue.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird error on boot.


If you think its coming from that specific program then try setting it not
to start on logon see fi that fixes it

If it fixes the issue then reinstall the program see if that fixes

Otherwise the error is to generic to be certain what is causing it

Good luck
From: John Isige
Sent: 12 December 2018 18:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.

Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming
from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809
and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.


"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."


Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I
suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't
show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.
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Re: Weird error on boot.

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Clue the best answers are in the web results near the bottom after all the video stuff.
I'm assuming you have amd Video hardware as this does seem to be a common problemwith them.
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https://www.google.com/search?q=%22MOM.Implementation%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8



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From: "John Isige" <gwynn@tds.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:04 PM
Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.


Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809 and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.


"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."


Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.





Re: NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Gene
 

The message is about starting a completely new message when starting a new thread.  If you change the subject line in an old message, and remove all the message content. it still has information embedded in the message that causes it to be placed in the old thread if people read mail by conversation.  It may also cause the message to be placed in the old thread in the archive. 
 
In addition the message said:
Please do not hijack a thread by replying to it and changing both the subject
> and the topic of discussion.  The message was written about both the subject and the message.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Kwork
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Um, be careful as the subject line agreed with the content of the
message. I think it was you who hijacked it away from the subject. Make
sure to read the subject line along with the content of a message so as
to avoid embarrassment.

On 12/12/2018 12:46 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
> Please do not hijack a thread by replying to it and changing both the subject
> and the topic of discussion.
>
> Please start a new thread for a new topic.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 20:03:09, Pascal Lambert wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> I am no computer whiz, and I would appreciate, those of you who are, to
>> take a look at the www.spreely.com social network to see what can be done
>> from our end to make the sight more accessible.  These are some of the
>> issues I encountered so far: Links do not open right away;
>> Editing to comment or post are very difficult as the voice becomes silent
>> and the cursor tends to get stuck; Difficult to locate received comments
>> and notifications;
>> The developers Marc and Terry will also appreciate receiving your experts
>> feedback. Many thanks
>> Blessings
>> Pascal
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
>> Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 1:50 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject:
>>
>> And if all else fails often typing it into google can give a clue.
>>   Brian
>>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley@...>
>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird error on boot.
>>
>>
>> If you think its coming from that specific program then try setting it not
>> to start on logon see fi that fixes it
>>
>>   If it fixes the issue then reinstall the program see if that fixes
>>
>> Otherwise the error is to generic to be certain what is causing it
>>
>> Good luck
>> From: John Isige
>> Sent: 12 December 2018 18:04
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.
>>
>> Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming
>> from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809
>> and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.
>>
>>
>> "Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
>> dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."
>>
>>
>> Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I
>> suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't
>> show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.



Re: NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Antony Stone
 

The subject does agree with the content.

It was posted as a reply to a totally different thread (original subject "Weird
error on boot.", as you can see if you read the message which Pascal replied
to below).

Yes, I could have created my own new thread to discuss this topic, but I
thought replying to the specific email I was complaing about would make the
point a little more directly, and to the person who hijacked the original
thread. I apologise if this was not clear.


Antony.

On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 21:16:05, Kwork wrote:

Um, be careful as the subject line agreed with the content of the
message. I think it was you who hijacked it away from the subject. Make
sure to read the subject line along with the content of a message so as
to avoid embarrassment.

On 12/12/2018 12:46 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Please do not hijack a thread by replying to it and changing both the
subject and the topic of discussion.

Please start a new thread for a new topic.

Thanks,


Antony.

On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 20:03:09, Pascal Lambert wrote:
Hi All,
I am no computer whiz, and I would appreciate, those of you who are, to
take a look at the www.spreely.com social network to see what can be
done from our end to make the sight more accessible. These are some of
the issues I encountered so far: Links do not open right away;
Editing to comment or post are very difficult as the voice becomes
silent and the cursor tends to get stuck; Difficult to locate received
comments and notifications;
The developers Marc and Terry will also appreciate receiving your
experts feedback. Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal

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Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, December 12,
2018 1:50 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject:

And if all else fails often typing it into google can give a clue.

Brian

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From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird error on boot.


If you think its coming from that specific program then try setting it
not to start on logon see fi that fixes it

If it fixes the issue then reinstall the program see if that fixes

Otherwise the error is to generic to be certain what is causing it

Good luck
From: John Isige
Sent: 12 December 2018 18:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.

Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming
from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809
and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.


"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."


Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I
suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't
show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.
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Re: NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Kwork
 

Um, be careful as the subject line agreed with the content of the message. I think it was you who hijacked it away from the subject. Make sure to read the subject line along with the content of a message so as to avoid embarrassment.

On 12/12/2018 12:46 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Please do not hijack a thread by replying to it and changing both the subject
and the topic of discussion.

Please start a new thread for a new topic.

Thanks,


Antony.

On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 20:03:09, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Hi All,
I am no computer whiz, and I would appreciate, those of you who are, to
take a look at the www.spreely.com social network to see what can be done
from our end to make the sight more accessible. These are some of the
issues I encountered so far: Links do not open right away;
Editing to comment or post are very difficult as the voice becomes silent
and the cursor tends to get stuck; Difficult to locate received comments
and notifications;
The developers Marc and Terry will also appreciate receiving your experts
feedback. Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 1:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject:

And if all else fails often typing it into google can give a clue.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird error on boot.


If you think its coming from that specific program then try setting it not
to start on logon see fi that fixes it

If it fixes the issue then reinstall the program see if that fixes

Otherwise the error is to generic to be certain what is causing it

Good luck
From: John Isige
Sent: 12 December 2018 18:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.

Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming
from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809
and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.


"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."


Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I
suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't
show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.


Re: NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Antony Stone
 

Please do not hijack a thread by replying to it and changing both the subject
and the topic of discussion.

Please start a new thread for a new topic.

Thanks,


Antony.

On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 20:03:09, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Hi All,
I am no computer whiz, and I would appreciate, those of you who are, to
take a look at the www.spreely.com social network to see what can be done
from our end to make the sight more accessible. These are some of the
issues I encountered so far: Links do not open right away;
Editing to comment or post are very difficult as the voice becomes silent
and the cursor tends to get stuck; Difficult to locate received comments
and notifications;
The developers Marc and Terry will also appreciate receiving your experts
feedback. Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 1:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject:

And if all else fails often typing it into google can give a clue.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird error on boot.


If you think its coming from that specific program then try setting it not
to start on logon see fi that fixes it

If it fixes the issue then reinstall the program see if that fixes

Otherwise the error is to generic to be certain what is causing it

Good luck
From: John Isige
Sent: 12 December 2018 18:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.

Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming
from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809
and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.


"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."


Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I
suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't
show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.
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NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

Hi All,
I am no computer whiz, and I would appreciate, those of you who are, to take a look at the www.spreely.com social network to see what can be done from our end to make the sight more accessible. These are some of the issues I encountered so far:
Links do not open right away;
Editing to comment or post are very difficult as the voice becomes silent and the cursor tends to get stuck;
Difficult to locate received comments and notifications;
The developers Marc and Terry will also appreciate receiving your experts feedback.
Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 1:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject:

And if all else fails often typing it into google can give a clue.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird error on boot.


If you think its coming from that specific program then try setting it not
to start on logon see fi that fixes it

If it fixes the issue then reinstall the program see if that fixes

Otherwise the error is to generic to be certain what is causing it

Good luck
From: John Isige
Sent: 12 December 2018 18:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.

Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming
from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809
and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.


"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."


Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I
suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't
show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.


Re: Weird error on boot.

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https://www.google.com/search?q=%22MOM.Implementation%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8



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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Isige" <gwynn@tds.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:04 PM
Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.


Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809 and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.


"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."


Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.



Re: Weird error on boot.

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And if all else fails often typing it into google can give a clue.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird error on boot.


If you think its coming from that specific program then try setting it not to start on logon see fi that fixes it

If it fixes the issue then reinstall the program see if that fixes

Otherwise the error is to generic to be certain what is causing it

Good luck
From: John Isige
Sent: 12 December 2018 18:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.

Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming
from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809
and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.


"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."


Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I
suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't
show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.


Re: Change minimum windows version required flag

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The reason why its set as it is that later windows Kernals have different and indeed extra routines that later NVDa versions need to function. If you remove the restriction, NVDA will just not work and all sorts of system errors will occur, probably crashing the system.
Brian

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From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Change minimum windows version required flag


i wish to know too.
in that case, i can test newer versions of nvda and participate in
github and help developers more!

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Why do you need to know. If you change it for an earlier one it will still

not work correctly.
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 9:18 AM
Subject: [nvda] Change minimum windows version required flag


Hi,

Where in the NVDA setting files is the minimum windows version value
saved?

Thanks,









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Re: Weird error on boot.

Chris
 

If you think its coming from that specific program then try setting it not to start on logon see fi that fixes it

 

If it fixes the issue then reinstall the program see if that fixes

 

Otherwise the error is to generic to be certain what is causing it

 

Good luck

From: John Isige
Sent: 12 December 2018 18:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.

 

Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming

from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809

and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.

 

 

"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its

dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."

 

 

Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I

suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't

show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.