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Re: Another reason I think people should be careful about Windows updates

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Shaun & List:


True, MS Windows updates want to be automatic, however, no one is saying to
never install them, just wait a week or so until no other adopters have
found serious problemsC, then install.
Brian K. Lingard


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf of Shaun Everiss
Sent: December 8, 2018 14:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another reason I think people should be careful about
Windows updates

The issue is that windows updates are automatic, if you turn it off you put
your system at risk.

On 12/8/2018 11:27 PM, Gene wrote:
I really don't think people should apply any updates from Microsoft until
a few days or maybe a week later if using Windows 10. If Microsoft becomes
reliable in the quality of its updates again, this caution may not be
necessary but I think it is now. This is one more reason why.
https://www.komando.com/happening-now/518921/another-windows-update-removed-
after-blue-screen-of-death-reports?utm_medium=nl&utm_source=notd&utm_content
=2018-12-08-a-d

I'm not sure where you can check to see if problems have been found with
updates but others may know. I'm also not sure if this caution should
extend to all versions of Windows or just be used with Windows 10.

Gene


Re: How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing? #advisory

Mohamed
 

Personally I've used it on occasions, though I've changed the pitch to an A note rather than the default, as the default pitch sounds rather painful to me.

On 12/9/2018 1:21 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
I thought the beeps mode would act like the old asap screen reader for dos did, in that when text is scrolling on the screen, it would constantly emit beeps to let you know the program was still producing output. However, when I was doing a rather lengthy compile a couple months ago, I tried turning on beeps mode, hoping it would continue beeping (once every second or so), or perhaps everytime the screen updated, but that did not happen.  I actually got no output at all, beeps or otherwise, which is not at all what I expected.  As a result, I just assumed the beep mode was broken, and went back to switching away from compile windows and checking periodically to see if they're done, since beeps mode doesn't perform as expected.



WG: [nvda-translations] New Vocalizer and Vocalizer-Expressive addons from Tiflotecnia

Adriani Botez
 

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Betreff: [nvda-translations] New Vocalizer and Vocalizer-Expressive addons from Tiflotecnia

Hello friends!

We have published updated addons for Vocalizer and Vocalizer Expressive, drivers and voices, to be compliant to new Alpha versions of NVDA.

They are available in:
https://www.tiflotecnia.net/downloads.htm
and
https://vocalizer-nvda.com/downloads

Please, spread the news in your comounities...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Re: windows 10 app essentials problem with update

P. Otter
 

thanks, but after installing the rc1 the problem was solved.
so i think it was a problem with the alpha version.
greets
paul otter


Op 10-12-2018 om 11:45 schreef Joseph Lee:

Hi,
If you're talking about latest 18.12.2 release, then you need to manually update this add-on (go to addons.nvda-project.org, go to Windows 10 app Essentials, and download stable version). Sorry for the inconvenience.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 2:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] windows 10 app essentials problem with update

hello all, this morning I've received a alert that i can update the windows 10 app essentials so i do that, but while downloading there comes an error message from the system that there are problems with downloading the file.
what can that be?
my internet connexion is realy good so I don't understand this problem.
are there other people who have the same problem?
thanks in advance
paul otter







New Vocalizer and Vocalizer-Expressive addons from Tiflotecnia

Rui Fontes
 

Hello friends!

We have published updated addons for Vocalizer and Vocalizer Expressive, drivers and voices, to be compliant to new Alpha versions of NVDA.

They are available in:
https://www.tiflotecnia.net/downloads.htm
and
https://vocalizer-nvda.com/downloads

Please, spread the news in your comounities...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Re: windows 10 app essentials problem with update

 

Hi,
If you're talking about latest 18.12.2 release, then you need to manually update this add-on (go to addons.nvda-project.org, go to Windows 10 app Essentials, and download stable version). Sorry for the inconvenience.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 2:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] windows 10 app essentials problem with update

hello all, this morning I've received a alert that i can update the windows 10 app essentials so i do that, but while downloading there comes an error message from the system that there are problems with downloading the file.
what can that be?
my internet connexion is realy good so I don't understand this problem.
are there other people who have the same problem?
thanks in advance
paul otter


windows 10 app essentials problem with update

P. Otter
 

hello all, this morning I've received a alert that i can update the windows 10 app essentials so i do that, but while downloading there comes an error message from the system that there are problems with downloading the file.
what can that be?
my internet connexion is realy good so I don't understand this problem.
are there other people who have the same problem?
thanks in advance
paul otter


Re: For users of SPL Studio and/or Windows 10 app Essentials add-ons: emergency patches for better compatibility with recent NvDA alpha snapshots for standalone update users #addonrelease

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Interestingly, today when I updated to the new alpha as a portable on my windows 7 machine, with neither of these add ons present, when it had dealt with the incompatible add ons issue AGAIN, it then failed to restart the software, Nvda Locked and I could not boot into any version. I had to restart the machine.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2018 7:03 PM
Subject: [nvda] For users of SPL Studio and/or Windows 10 app Essentials add-ons: emergency patches for better compatibility with recent NvDA alpha snapshots for standalone update users #AddonRelease


Hi all,



For users of StationPlaylist Studio and Windows 10 App Essentials add-ons:
an emergency patch has been released for these add-ons to resolve
compatibility issues with recent NVDA alpha releases. Specifically, these
patches resolves the following:



Suppose you are using a recent NVDA alpha snapshot and one or both of the
add-ons mentioned. If you are not using Add-on Updater add-on, these add-ons
will use standalone add-on update feature that ships with add-ons
themselves. The problem is that, with this set up, you won't be able to
check for updates for add-ons if you're running NVDA alpha build 16401 or
later. Also, after managing to update these add-ons, you won't get restart
prompt.



Today's patches fixes this scenario. If you are in the situation I
described, you need to apply today's patches manually (go to
addons.nvda-project.org, locate the add-on entries in question, and download
stable version).



Note: today's patches are not applicable if:



1. You are using NVDA 2018.3.2 and/or 2018.4 beta.
2. You are using Add-on Updater 18.12.2 or later.



Even then, I advise applying the patch when Add-on Updater says there are
updates available.



Speaking of standalone add-on update checks from StationPlaylist Studio and
Windows 10 App Essentials, they will be retired by February 2019 in favor of
Add-on Updater (see a post I sent out about this a few days ago).



Cheers,

Joseph




Re: an issue in explorer in the beta inwindows 7

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Its as if its missing the info it needs due to some kind of delay.
Its very similar to when a browser opens and it cannot see the page till it is refreshed by a pull down menu. It was not so bad in the last nvda stable, at least not for me.
I have shortcuts set up for oft opened folders which is when I see it most often.
Brian

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From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2018 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] an issue in explorer in the beta inwindows 7


No, but I tend to open drives and paths via the run dialogue. So so far not having the issue here.

On 9 Dec 2018, at 0:50, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Has anyone noticed that when you say, open a drive the actual event seems not to get spoken every time It sometimes does, and more often if the path name is longer but just opening drive C: seems to result in silence meaning that up and down cursors need to be used to tell if its actually where you expect it to be.
Anyone else had this?
Brian

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Re: How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing? #advisory

Gene
 

That's a different feature than the beeps you can cycle on with NVDA key s.  Its those that members are expressing skepticism about.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2018 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing? #advisory

Yes progress set to beep,   It was Mick or Maybe James that told me
about 10 years ago about the beeps and the reason to have them.

On 09/12/2018 22:29, Gene wrote:
> Are you talking about progress bars set to beep instead of talk or the speech mode beeps setting you can cycle to with JAWS key s?
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2018 3:43 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing? #advisory
>
>
> the beeps are there for doing something like downloading say a large
> file,   you might not want to hear Nvda saying the progress but you can
> be doing something else say talking on the phone and if you have beeps
> only you know your computer is doing something.   I have used this in
> this scenario.   hope this helps some.
>
> On 09/12/2018 10:36, Peter Beasley wrote:
>> I have been meaning to ask this also. I can’t hear any beeps.
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>
>> From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
>> Sent: 09 December 2018 08:43
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing? #advisory
>>
>> Yes what is the beeps mode for exactly?
>>    Brian
>>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...>
>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2018 11:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing? #advisory
>>
>>
>> You've already been told about using NVDA+S (typically INS+S, if using
>> desktop keyboard layout) to toggle the NVDA Speech state.
>>
>> I also wanted to mention the
>>
>> *******************************************************************************************************************************************************************
>> NoBeepsSpeechMode (
>> https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/noBeepsSpeechMode.en.html )
>>
>> add on, which does exactly what its name implies: eliminates the "beeps
>> speech" mode, which I never found in the least way useful. I either want
>> speech on or off.
>> *******************************************************************************************************************************************************************
>>
>> --
>>
>> Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
>>
>> *A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for
>> illusion is deep.*
>>
>> ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
>>
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Re: How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing? #advisory

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

I don't get any beeps at all in the command prompt when text is scrolling, so either the beeps mode doesn't work in the command prompt, or my beeps are broken.

On Sun, 9 Dec 2018, Roger Stewart wrote:

There is no need for speech mode beeps to do this. You can configure nvda to just beep when it is downloading a file and the higher the pitch of the beeps, the more progress has been made in the download. This can also be set to off, beep, and also beep and speak and in the case of speak, it will just speak the percentage downloaded at regular intervals.

Roger


Re: How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing? #advisory

Roger Stewart
 

There is no need for speech mode beeps to do this. You can configure nvda to just beep when it is downloading a file and the higher the pitch of the beeps, the more progress has been made in the download. This can also be set to off, beep, and also beep and speak and in the case of speak, it will just speak the percentage downloaded at regular intervals.

Roger

On 12/9/2018 3:43 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
the beeps are there for doing something like downloading say a large file,   you might not want to hear Nvda saying the progress but you can be doing something else say talking on the phone and if you have beeps only you know your computer is doing something.   I have used this in this scenario.   hope this helps some.

On 09/12/2018 10:36, Peter Beasley wrote:
    I have been meaning to ask this also. I can’t hear any beeps.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 09 December 2018 08:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing? #advisory

Yes what is the beeps mode for exactly?
  Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2018 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing? #advisory


You've already been told about using NVDA+S (typically INS+S, if using
desktop keyboard layout) to toggle the NVDA Speech state.

I also wanted to mention the

*******************************************************************************************************************************************************************
NoBeepsSpeechMode (
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/noBeepsSpeechMode.en.html )

add on, which does exactly what its name implies: eliminates the "beeps
speech" mode, which I never found in the least way useful. I either want
speech on or off.
*******************************************************************************************************************************************************************

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

*A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for
illusion is deep.*

~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back












.


Re: EM Client mail client

Quentin Christensen
 

Thanks everyone,

I might send the developer a note and ensure they are aware of the issues, but looks like this one isn't a viable alternative for now.

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 12:38 AM Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:

Gave it a quick go now - had in the past, but redownloaded it in case something had changed, and, during the first part of the process trying to configure an account, I decided not to bother - tab index seems inconsistent, not all fields seem to have labels/titles assigned to them, etc. etc.


So, no, it doesn't seem like it's worth consideration as such.


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2018-12-08 12:02 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,

I had an inquiry about using the EM Client - http://www.emclient.com/

Has anyone used this mail client and if so, is it accessible, and are there any tips for using it or setting it up etc?

Quentin.

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Re: How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing? #advisory

Kevin Cussick
 

Yes progress set to beep, It was Mick or Maybe James that told me about 10 years ago about the beeps and the reason to have them.

On 09/12/2018 22:29, Gene wrote:
Are you talking about progress bars set to beep instead of talk or the speech mode beeps setting you can cycle to with JAWS key s?
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2018 3:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing? #advisory
the beeps are there for doing something like downloading say a large
file, you might not want to hear Nvda saying the progress but you can
be doing something else say talking on the phone and if you have beeps
only you know your computer is doing something. I have used this in
this scenario. hope this helps some.
On 09/12/2018 10:36, Peter Beasley wrote:
I have been meaning to ask this also. I can’t hear any beeps.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 09 December 2018 08:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing? #advisory

Yes what is the beeps mode for exactly?
Brian

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From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2018 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing? #advisory


You've already been told about using NVDA+S (typically INS+S, if using
desktop keyboard layout) to toggle the NVDA Speech state.

I also wanted to mention the

*******************************************************************************************************************************************************************
NoBeepsSpeechMode (
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/noBeepsSpeechMode.en.html )

add on, which does exactly what its name implies: eliminates the "beeps
speech" mode, which I never found in the least way useful. I either want
speech on or off.
*******************************************************************************************************************************************************************

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

*A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for
illusion is deep.*

~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back












Epub reader that can watch videos?

 

Hello,
I'm creating Epub files using pandoc and I would like to insert videos into my Epub files. I can't seem to find an accessible reader that will show the videos though. I don't know if this is Pandoc or my bookreader.
I am using the latest version of NVDA stable and windows 10. I tried the following Epub readers with no result:
Microsoft Edge
Adobe Digital Editions 4.5
balabolka
QRead

A sighted person told me the video was showing up on calibre 3.35, but I can't read it to test for myself.
Does anyone know how to view Epubs with multimedia content?
Thank you,


Re: Bug report and mouse

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Farhan,

If you have NVDA running, you can press NVDA+f1 which opens the log viewer - you can then press CONTROL+A to select all, CONTROL+C to copy, move to an email and press CONTROL+V to paste it into the body (be sure you are in the body).

There are several ways of reporting issues:

- Here on the list often gets the quickest response from someone.
- NVDA has an issue tracker on GitHub: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues which you can search for existing issues, or if no-one else has already reported it, you can create a new issue:  https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/new/choose

If there is a technical issue which needs fixing, then an issue will need to be created at some point, so an issue is often the most efficient way to report it.

You can also email us at info@... 

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 3:35 PM farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@...> wrote:

I use nvda 2018.3.2. how to send bug report to nbda developer along with log? I'm not getting log in temp folder. Where will I get it? How to use mouse with nvda?



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Re: Latest beta not rebooting again..

Quentin Christensen
 

After rebooting once does the problem still persist Brian?  And this is with Beta4?

Has anyone else come across this?

Quentin.

On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 9:42 PM Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Yes folks, on my Windows 7 machine the latest beta has failed to reboot,
showing a  warning about a file could not be written to but silently as nvda
has shut down ready to reboot. the same old message written to the log kept
in the nvda folder, and in effect the problem is again here where the log
file is still locked being renamed when nvda tries to restart, stopping it
at that point.
However to me, looking at the log fragment befor, there does seem to be a
heck of a lot of issues with deleting old files and copying new ones with
errors suppressed. Kind of makes you wonder if all the files that should
have been updated, really have been. Also I did not realise the registry fix
tool would run before a reboot as also seen below. Not that it helps much
with my dropbox dialogue issue.
 Anyway those who are interestid, have a look below.

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Updating NVDA  dialog  Please wait
while your previous installation of NVDA is being updated.']
IO - tones.beep (10:27:27.447):
Beep at pitch 440, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - speech.speak (10:27:27.448):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Please wait']
IO - tones.beep (10:27:27.483):
Beep at pitch 110.0, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - speech.speak (10:27:27.486):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'0 percent']
IO - tones.beep (10:27:28.460):
Beep at pitch 440, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:28.538):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib file: u'C:\\Program Files
(x86)\\NVDA\\lib\\2018.4beta3\\IAccessible2proxy.dll'
IO - tones.beep (10:27:29.473):
Beep at pitch 440, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:29.539):
installer.tryRemoveFile:
Failed to delete file C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\lib\2018.4beta3\tmpwd_adc,
marking for delete on reboot
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:29.542):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib file: u'C:\\Program Files
(x86)\\NVDA\\lib\\2018.4beta3\\ISimpleDOM.dll'
IO - tones.beep (10:27:30.487):
Beep at pitch 440, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:30.543):
installer.tryRemoveFile:
Failed to delete file C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\lib\2018.4beta3\tmpqs_gij,
marking for delete on reboot
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:30.545):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib file: u'C:\\Program Files
(x86)\\NVDA\\lib\\2018.4beta3\\minHook.dll'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:30.546):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib file: u'C:\\Program Files
(x86)\\NVDA\\lib\\2018.4beta3\\nvdaHelperLocal.dll'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:30.549):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib file: u'C:\\Program Files
(x86)\\NVDA\\lib\\2018.4beta3\\nvdaHelperLocalWin10.dll'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:30.551):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib file: u'C:\\Program Files
(x86)\\NVDA\\lib\\2018.4beta3\\nvdaHelperRemote.dll'
IO - tones.beep (10:27:31.503):
Beep at pitch 440, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:31.552):
installer.tryRemoveFile:
Failed to delete file C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\lib\2018.4beta3\tmpbv8dly,
marking for delete on reboot
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:31.555):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Skipping current install lib path: u'C:\\Program Files
(x86)\\NVDA\\lib\\2018.4beta4'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:31.555):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib directory: u'C:\\Program Files
(x86)\\NVDA\\lib\\2018.4beta2'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:31.558):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib directory: u'C:\\Program Files
(x86)\\NVDA\\lib\\2018.4beta3'
WARNING - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:31.559):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Failed to remove a directory no longer needed. This can be manually removed
after a reboot or the  installer will try removing it again next time.
Directory: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib\\2018.4beta3'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:31.561):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib directory: u'C:\\Program Files
(x86)\\NVDA\\lib\\2018.4beta4'
WARNING - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:31.562):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Failed to remove a directory no longer needed. This can be manually removed
after a reboot or the  installer will try removing it again next time.
Directory: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib\\2018.4beta4'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:31.565):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib file: u'C:\\Program Files
(x86)\\NVDA\\lib64\\2018.4beta3\\IAccessible2proxy.dll'
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 3424 (nvda_update_xaenmc.exe) (10:27:32.286):
Thread 4836, build\x86\remote\ia2Support.cpp,
IA2Support_inProcess_terminate, 152:
WaitForMultipleObjects returned 258

IO - tones.beep (10:27:32.516):
Beep at pitch 440, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:32.565):
installer.tryRemoveFile:
Failed to delete file C:\Program Files
(x86)\NVDA\lib64\2018.4beta3\tmpmseymn, marking for delete on reboot
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:32.568):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib file: u'C:\\Program Files
(x86)\\NVDA\\lib64\\2018.4beta3\\ISimpleDOM.dll'
IO - tones.beep (10:27:33.529):
Beep at pitch 440, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.569):
installer.tryRemoveFile:
Failed to delete file C:\Program Files
(x86)\NVDA\lib64\2018.4beta3\tmpv0prui, marking for delete on reboot
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.572):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib file: u'C:\\Program Files
(x86)\\NVDA\\lib64\\2018.4beta3\\minHook.dll'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.573):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib file: u'C:\\Program Files
(x86)\\NVDA\\lib64\\2018.4beta3\\nvdaHelperRemote.dll'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.575):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib file: u'C:\\Program Files
(x86)\\NVDA\\lib64\\2018.4beta3\\nvdaHelperRemoteLoader.exe'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.578):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Skipping current install lib path: u'C:\\Program Files
(x86)\\NVDA\\lib64\\2018.4beta4'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.579):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib directory: u'C:\\Program Files
(x86)\\NVDA\\lib64\\2018.4beta2'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.582):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib directory: u'C:\\Program Files
(x86)\\NVDA\\lib64\\2018.4beta3'
WARNING - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.582):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Failed to remove a directory no longer needed. This can be manually removed
after a reboot or the  installer will try removing it again next time.
Directory: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib64\\2018.4beta3'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.584):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib directory: u'C:\\Program Files
(x86)\\NVDA\\lib64\\2018.4beta4'
WARNING - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.585):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Failed to remove a directory no longer needed. This can be manually removed
after a reboot or the  installer will try removing it again next time.
Directory: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib64\\2018.4beta4'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.586):
COMRegistrationFixes.fixCOMRegistrations:
Fixing COM registration for Windows 6.1, 64 bit
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.611):
COMRegistrationFixes.applyRegistryPatch:
Applied registry patch: COMRegistryFixes\oleaccProxy.reg with
C:\Windows\regedit.exe
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.627):
COMRegistrationFixes.applyRegistryPatch:
Applied registry patch: COMRegistryFixes\oleaccProxy.reg with
C:\Windows\syswow64\regedit.exe
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.726):
COMRegistrationFixes.registerServer:
Registered C:\Windows\system32\oleaut32.dll
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.823):
COMRegistrationFixes.registerServer:
Registered C:\Windows\system32\actxprxy.dll
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.892):
COMRegistrationFixes.registerServer:
Registered C:\Windows\syswow64\oleaut32.dll
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.976):
COMRegistrationFixes.registerServer:
Registered C:\Windows\syswow64\actxprxy.dll
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:34.058):
COMRegistrationFixes.registerServer:
Registered C:\program files\Internet Explorer\ieproxy.dll
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:34.150):
COMRegistrationFixes.registerServer:
Registered C:\program files (x86)\Internet Explorer\ieproxy.dll
IO - tones.beep (10:27:34.157):
Beep at pitch 1760, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole
(10:27:34.313):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None,
None, 0, None))
IO - speech.speak (10:27:34.392):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'1 nvda mail list  - Outlook
Express - Brians lists account BGlists']
IO - speech.speak (10:27:34.476):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Outlook Express Message List
list']
IO - speech.speak (10:27:34.555):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'From: Alexandre Alves Toco;
Subject: [nvda] beta4 fixed an anoying volume variance, very good!;
Received: 07/12/2018 08:31  38139 of 38139']


This is where the old version stopps logging ie the temp version of the
latest beta after the install.
 Brian

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Re: How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing? #advisory

Gene
 

Are you talking about progress bars set to beep instead of talk or the speech mode beeps setting you can cycle to with JAWS key s?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2018 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing? #advisory

the beeps are there for doing something like downloading say a large
file,   you might not want to hear Nvda saying the progress but you can
be doing something else say talking on the phone and if you have beeps
only you know your computer is doing something.   I have used this in
this scenario.   hope this helps some.

On 09/12/2018 10:36, Peter Beasley wrote:
> I have been meaning to ask this also. I can’t hear any beeps.
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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> Sent: 09 December 2018 08:43
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing? #advisory
>
> Yes what is the beeps mode for exactly?
>   Brian
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> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2018 11:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing? #advisory
>
>
> You've already been told about using NVDA+S (typically INS+S, if using
> desktop keyboard layout) to toggle the NVDA Speech state.
>
> I also wanted to mention the
>
> *******************************************************************************************************************************************************************
> NoBeepsSpeechMode (
> https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/noBeepsSpeechMode.en.html )
>
> add on, which does exactly what its name implies: eliminates the "beeps
> speech" mode, which I never found in the least way useful. I either want
> speech on or off.
> *******************************************************************************************************************************************************************
>
> --
>
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Re: How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing? #advisory

john poole
 

Hi,
The beeps are great in my situation! At least I know something is happening on screen when updating or downloading.
Regards John.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2018 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing? #advisory


No, what he is asking is the speach mode beeps. I have used it when I
wnt to know somethingn is happenign quickly but don't want to know what
it is. But I don't use it often.

Take care

On 9 Dec 2018, at 2:48, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

Its your task progress indicator. You can have it do:
nothing
speak
beep
beep and speak
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2018 1:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing?
#advisory


Yes what is the beeps mode for exactly?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vogel"
<britechguy@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2018 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing?
#advisory


You've already been told about using NVDA+S (typically INS+S, if
using desktop keyboard layout) to toggle the NVDA Speech state.

I also wanted to mention the

*******************************************************************************************************************************************************************
NoBeepsSpeechMode (
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/noBeepsSpeechMode.en.html )

add on, which does exactly what its name implies: eliminates the
"beeps speech" mode, which I never found in the least way useful. I
either want speech on or off.
*******************************************************************************************************************************************************************

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Re: How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing? #advisory

Kevin Cussick
 

the beeps are there for doing something like downloading say a large file, you might not want to hear Nvda saying the progress but you can be doing something else say talking on the phone and if you have beeps only you know your computer is doing something. I have used this in this scenario. hope this helps some.

On 09/12/2018 10:36, Peter Beasley wrote:
I have been meaning to ask this also. I can’t hear any beeps.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 09 December 2018 08:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing? #advisory
Yes what is the beeps mode for exactly?
Brian
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2018 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How can I configure NVDA to speak nothing? #advisory
You've already been told about using NVDA+S (typically INS+S, if using
desktop keyboard layout) to toggle the NVDA Speech state.
I also wanted to mention the
*******************************************************************************************************************************************************************
NoBeepsSpeechMode (
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/noBeepsSpeechMode.en.html )
add on, which does exactly what its name implies: eliminates the "beeps
speech" mode, which I never found in the least way useful. I either want
speech on or off.
*******************************************************************************************************************************************************************
--
Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
*A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for
illusion is deep.*
~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back