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Re: The Most Basic Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA Issues

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Louise


Yes it is safe to use it basically re registers certain files in windows that Nvda uses to communicate to each other.


The directions are easy to follow .

Usually used if there are problems.


Gene nz


On 5/02/2021 7:44 am, Louise Pfau wrote:
Hi.  Is the com registration fixing tool an advanced function, and if so, is it safe to use?  I tend to be careful what I get into with my technology.

Thanks,

Louise


Re: The Most Basic Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA Issues

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  Is the com registration fixing tool an advanced function, and if so, is it safe to use?  I tend to be careful what I get into with my technology.

Thanks,

Louise


Re: Error-logging and Reporting

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  How much of the log do you need to submit when you encounter an error?  I've just installed 2020.4 beta 4, and received the error tone a couple of times.  I haven't been able to replicate the situations yet though.  I red through the information at the end of the log, and I couldn't make sense of it.

Thanks,

Louise


NVDA with mainframe terminal emulators

Eric Brinkman
 

Hi all,

I work as a mainframe programmer and have been using Jaws with Glen
Sepke's terminal scripts to use the terminal emulator at my company.
Have any of you found a way to get NVDA to work well with terminal
emulation programs?

Thanks,
Eric


Re: Learning to be efficient with screen review

Sarah k Alawami
 

For me arrows do not work when you turn off browse mode. Only tab as far as I have found, the same can be with electron apps. I cannot use arrows, only tab. Or if I do use arrows, there is a lag, and a big one. I can use the shortcuts dedicated to the websites though in focus mode. So yes, document view for me on those sites and electron apps is necessary if needed.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 9:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Learning to be efficient with screen review

 

Hi,

 

Usually, if you turn off virtual mode (NVDA Space) then up and down arrows will work on those kinds of websites, so I contend, as Jean does, that you don’t really need document view, unless I’m missing something.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 04 February 2021 00:34
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Learning to be efficient with screen review

 

If you go to http://qrz.com and try and access yoru profile you cannot unless you go to document view, find your call, click it, then use document review to find the expanded menu. Sometimes up and dow arrow will work, sometimes not, it depends on the site. Also if you go to http://simmarket.com you sometimes have to use document review to see what's going on especially when you are buying stuff. also at http://aavirtual.net, http://fdx.org, http://flyvirtual.net, etc. There are others where you were forced to use all 3 views, but I can't recall them as it's ben almost 10 years since i've been on those sites.

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On 3 Feb 2021, at 16:03, Gene wrote:

I didn't notice you said document review. So I withdraw my comments about you confusing different views in large part. But there is your statement I commented about in a different message. I will leave that question opened as it isn't clarified.

But why use document review on web sites. You can move around on web pages using the virtual cursor as if you are in a document with arrow keys, tab, quick navigation keys, etc. I see no advantage in seeing how the document is laid out or in efficiency in using document review.

Of course, there are times when you are trying to activate something where you need to use the virtual mouse, but at those times, remaining in object navigation, routing the mouse to your location and clicking works fine. You may be able to do that in document review too, but I see no advantage.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 5:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Learning to be efficient with screen review

That's why I said document view on a website, not screen review. I believe there is a screen review as well on the website side of things. I must look when I'm not working. Yes, you can go from object to object. I do not, I do use document view to explore though. So, it behooves the user to be Perficient at both, starting with screen review/document review, then object review. It to me makes sense work flow wise.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 2:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Learning to be efficient with screen review

That is not necessarily true and is an over generalization. A user doesn't have to learn screen review first. It is easier to understand and learn screen review first and a lot of people know how to use it from using other screen-readers that have that feature. There are times when you can see something with screen review you can't see in object review. there are times you can see something in object review you can't in screen review. If the user is advanced to the point where he/she needs access in ways many less advanced users do, they should learn both for good access.

But you are making a certain statement that is not true. You can't use screen review on web pages. If you think you are, then you are using object review and you think you are using screen review.

When you are using screen review, you can still move from object to object as though you were in objecct review. I don't use the laptop layout, but if you use the commands NVDA key numpad 4 or NVDA numpad 6, those move you from object to object regardless of whether you are in screen review or object review.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 11:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Learning to be efficient with screen review



No, I'm talking about switching to screen review mode if there is only one
object. It for me is much easier because of the way the laptop layout is
designed, and most of the time, at least in the programs I use, screen
review is much better and faster to use than object mode. If you want to see
examples go to my lbry page and watch some of the videos I post, there. You
will hear me using screen review, a lot. You will also hear me switch to
screen review when I start the programs I need, then stay in screen review
for the deration of the video(s) You will also see that arrows do not make
any difference when I am using arrows which is, at least for what I do,
rare. There are also other examples here as well.



I dun no know as I said how to use all the views perfectly, but I can get
around fairly quickly in regard to what I need to do. I stress a user must
learn screen review first, then interact with each element of the screen via
object review.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 9:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Learning to be efficient with screen review



If there is only one object, you don't necessarily have to go into review
mode. You can simply use the review commands, numpad 8 for read current
line, numpad 7 for previous line, numpad 9 for next line, etc. When doing
so in object navigation, you are reviewing the current objject.



Going into screen review doesn't work on web pages because of how browsers
send data to the screen.



Are you talking about using commands such as numpad 8 while in object
navigation or are you talking about actually switching to screen review
mode?



Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Sarah k Alawami

Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 10:36 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Learning to be efficient with screen review



I agree to a point, however I would learn how to use screen and document
view. There will come a time when you must use them because programs don't
work well in object mode. For example, there is only 1 object but a lot of
stuff on the screen that can be clicked, or using screen review is the only
way to get around the app/website. I know how to use all the views. I prefer
screen review and use it for getting around when I have a recalcitrant
app/website.



-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene

Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2021 8:44 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Learning to be efficient with screen review



You need to use object navigation. Screen review is much more limited in
Windows 10 for technical reasons someone else will have to explain. When
you use NVDA key b, you are actually reading all the objects available to
the program.



Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Deborah Armstrong

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2021 7:18 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] Learning to be efficient with screen review





I have found the NVDA screen review inconsistent and I am trying to figure
out why and how to get around the problem.



Try this experiment:

1. Type Windows with R to issue the Run Command 2. Type an invalid drive
letter say M: or I: and press enter.

An Error message will appear.

3. Use Insert numpad 1 or Insert Numpad 7 to switch to screen review (you do
not want to be in object review).

4. Use the 8 and 9 numpad keys to read the error message.

This works fine.



Now press Windows I to go to settings.

1. Arrow down and right to Update and Security.

2. Use Insert-B to read the entire screen. That works..

3. But now try these review mode commands to review the screen.

Insert 1 or 7 to make sure you are in Screen review mode

7 8 and 9 on the numeric keypad to read the top, current and following lines
and keep pressing 9.

You will only hear the word "Bottom".

They do not work. You cannot read the Windows update screen in settings
using screen review.

You can explore your computer with object review, but I can't figure out how
to read that screen, slowly at my own pace with the screen review mode.



Why is this? When focus cannot go to all areas of a screen, how can I read
what's there? Or even if focus can go there, how can I select and copy with

NVDA-F9 and F10 or read it slower?


















































Re: Learning to be efficient with screen review

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

Usually, if you turn off virtual mode (NVDA Space) then up and down arrows will work on those kinds of websites, so I contend, as Jean does, that you don’t really need document view, unless I’m missing something.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 04 February 2021 00:34
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Learning to be efficient with screen review

 

If you go to http://qrz.com and try and access yoru profile you cannot unless you go to document view, find your call, click it, then use document review to find the expanded menu. Sometimes up and dow arrow will work, sometimes not, it depends on the site. Also if you go to http://simmarket.com you sometimes have to use document review to see what's going on especially when you are buying stuff. also at http://aavirtual.net, http://fdx.org, http://flyvirtual.net, etc. There are others where you were forced to use all 3 views, but I can't recall them as it's ben almost 10 years since i've been on those sites.

--

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Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 3 Feb 2021, at 16:03, Gene wrote:

I didn't notice you said document review. So I withdraw my comments about you confusing different views in large part. But there is your statement I commented about in a different message. I will leave that question opened as it isn't clarified.

But why use document review on web sites. You can move around on web pages using the virtual cursor as if you are in a document with arrow keys, tab, quick navigation keys, etc. I see no advantage in seeing how the document is laid out or in efficiency in using document review.

Of course, there are times when you are trying to activate something where you need to use the virtual mouse, but at those times, remaining in object navigation, routing the mouse to your location and clicking works fine. You may be able to do that in document review too, but I see no advantage.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 5:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Learning to be efficient with screen review

That's why I said document view on a website, not screen review. I believe there is a screen review as well on the website side of things. I must look when I'm not working. Yes, you can go from object to object. I do not, I do use document view to explore though. So, it behooves the user to be Perficient at both, starting with screen review/document review, then object review. It to me makes sense work flow wise.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 2:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Learning to be efficient with screen review

That is not necessarily true and is an over generalization. A user doesn't have to learn screen review first. It is easier to understand and learn screen review first and a lot of people know how to use it from using other screen-readers that have that feature. There are times when you can see something with screen review you can't see in object review. there are times you can see something in object review you can't in screen review. If the user is advanced to the point where he/she needs access in ways many less advanced users do, they should learn both for good access.

But you are making a certain statement that is not true. You can't use screen review on web pages. If you think you are, then you are using object review and you think you are using screen review.

When you are using screen review, you can still move from object to object as though you were in objecct review. I don't use the laptop layout, but if you use the commands NVDA key numpad 4 or NVDA numpad 6, those move you from object to object regardless of whether you are in screen review or object review.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 11:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Learning to be efficient with screen review



No, I'm talking about switching to screen review mode if there is only one
object. It for me is much easier because of the way the laptop layout is
designed, and most of the time, at least in the programs I use, screen
review is much better and faster to use than object mode. If you want to see
examples go to my lbry page and watch some of the videos I post, there. You
will hear me using screen review, a lot. You will also hear me switch to
screen review when I start the programs I need, then stay in screen review
for the deration of the video(s) You will also see that arrows do not make
any difference when I am using arrows which is, at least for what I do,
rare. There are also other examples here as well.



I dun no know as I said how to use all the views perfectly, but I can get
around fairly quickly in regard to what I need to do. I stress a user must
learn screen review first, then interact with each element of the screen via
object review.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 9:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Learning to be efficient with screen review



If there is only one object, you don't necessarily have to go into review
mode. You can simply use the review commands, numpad 8 for read current
line, numpad 7 for previous line, numpad 9 for next line, etc. When doing
so in object navigation, you are reviewing the current objject.



Going into screen review doesn't work on web pages because of how browsers
send data to the screen.



Are you talking about using commands such as numpad 8 while in object
navigation or are you talking about actually switching to screen review
mode?



Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Sarah k Alawami

Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 10:36 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Learning to be efficient with screen review



I agree to a point, however I would learn how to use screen and document
view. There will come a time when you must use them because programs don't
work well in object mode. For example, there is only 1 object but a lot of
stuff on the screen that can be clicked, or using screen review is the only
way to get around the app/website. I know how to use all the views. I prefer
screen review and use it for getting around when I have a recalcitrant
app/website.



-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene

Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2021 8:44 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Learning to be efficient with screen review



You need to use object navigation. Screen review is much more limited in
Windows 10 for technical reasons someone else will have to explain. When
you use NVDA key b, you are actually reading all the objects available to
the program.



Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Deborah Armstrong

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2021 7:18 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] Learning to be efficient with screen review





I have found the NVDA screen review inconsistent and I am trying to figure
out why and how to get around the problem.



Try this experiment:

1. Type Windows with R to issue the Run Command 2. Type an invalid drive
letter say M: or I: and press enter.

An Error message will appear.

3. Use Insert numpad 1 or Insert Numpad 7 to switch to screen review (you do
not want to be in object review).

4. Use the 8 and 9 numpad keys to read the error message.

This works fine.



Now press Windows I to go to settings.

1. Arrow down and right to Update and Security.

2. Use Insert-B to read the entire screen. That works..

3. But now try these review mode commands to review the screen.

Insert 1 or 7 to make sure you are in Screen review mode

7 8 and 9 on the numeric keypad to read the top, current and following lines
and keep pressing 9.

You will only hear the word "Bottom".

They do not work. You cannot read the Windows update screen in settings
using screen review.

You can explore your computer with object review, but I can't figure out how
to read that screen, slowly at my own pace with the screen review mode.



Why is this? When focus cannot go to all areas of a screen, how can I read
what's there? Or even if focus can go there, how can I select and copy with

NVDA-F9 and F10 or read it slower?



















































Re: NVDA default shortcuts and Google Docs

simon wheatcroft
 

Thanks everyone. All those tips were super useful. Changed it now

Many thanks

Simon


On 4 Feb 2021, at 16:27, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 11:13 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
it’s just easier for me to type nvda in the run dialogue.
-
Or even just hitting Windows Key and typing whatever it is that you're trying to run (provided the name is "distinctive enough") and hitting enter.

What you do, and what I've described, are frequently used methods that are often more efficient than keeping scads of desktop shortcuts.  It's a matter of personal preference, really.  We each should do what suits us best, and having folks such as yourself, myself, and others mention what they do provides the range of options for consideration by others.
 
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Re: NVDA default shortcuts and Google Docs

 

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 11:13 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
it’s just easier for me to type nvda in the run dialogue.
-
Or even just hitting Windows Key and typing whatever it is that you're trying to run (provided the name is "distinctive enough") and hitting enter.

What you do, and what I've described, are frequently used methods that are often more efficient than keeping scads of desktop shortcuts.  It's a matter of personal preference, really.  We each should do what suits us best, and having folks such as yourself, myself, and others mention what they do provides the range of options for consideration by others.
 
--

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The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

       ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: NVDA default shortcuts and Google Docs

Sarah k Alawami
 

I personally turn that shortcut off. Actually I have no icon on my desktop as it’s just easier for me to type nvda in the run dialogue. That is the brute force way around your situation but that also works.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 7:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA default shortcuts and Google Docs

 

A re-emphasis of the excellent advice offered by Mr. Maher.

The keyboard shortcut that can be created by request of NVDA at install that allows it to be fired up is a Windows keyboard shortcut. That CTRL+ALT+N keyboard shortcut is attached to the desktop shortcut for NVDA itself.  The tweak you're making is actually completely outside NVDA itself, to the Windows keyboard shortcut assigned to the desktop shortcut for NVDA.
--

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The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

       ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Column shifting in large tables

 

Are you certain that this issue does not lie with the webpage itself?

If anyone is available for sighted assistance, are they seeing the results after sorting "go wonky"?  If so, it's probably not NVDA's problem at all.
--

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The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

       ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: NVDA default shortcuts and Google Docs

 

A re-emphasis of the excellent advice offered by Mr. Maher.

The keyboard shortcut that can be created by request of NVDA at install that allows it to be fired up is a Windows keyboard shortcut. That CTRL+ALT+N keyboard shortcut is attached to the desktop shortcut for NVDA itself.  The tweak you're making is actually completely outside NVDA itself, to the Windows keyboard shortcut assigned to the desktop shortcut for NVDA.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

       ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: NVDA default shortcuts and Google Docs

Louis Maher
 

Hello Simon,

Go to your desktop. Select the NVDA shortcut and hit alt + enter to bring up the NVDA properties dialog. Tab a couple of times until you get to the shortcut option. Make it whatever you like. I use control + alt + m.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03@outlook.com

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of simon wheatcroft
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 6:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA default shortcuts and Google Docs

Hi,

I am currently having an issue with Google Docs moving to next elements. The keyboard shortcut for this is:

Ctrl + Alt + N

This is also the shortcut for turn NVDA on/off. Is there a way to change this default NVDA shortcut? So i can navigate my google docs documents

Many thanks

Simon


Re: Column shifting in large tables

Jonathan Milam
 

Unfortunately not, since it is behind an intranet firewall thus requiring VPN for access.  I will definitely check GitHub to see if I can find anything.  Thanks, Sarah.

 

Jonathan

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 2:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Column shifting in large tables

 

Do you have an example website or what not to show this behavior? Also have you looked at the GitHub page to see if someone put up an issue about. This will not be of much help, but it might help us troubleshoot.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 9:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Column shifting in large tables

 

Hi All,

 

I am seeing an issue with NVDA where, in a table on a website with hundreds if not a thousand rows, after sorting it in a different order the columns shift at random spots in the table and continue shifting throughout the rest of the table.  So in other words, if the column headers are city, country, course number, course name, etc., the information in the columns shifts so that country becomes the header for city, course name becomes course number, etc.  Unfortunately there is no pattern for this behavior, in that the shifting happens at different spots in the table each time I reload it.  Has anyone else seen this, and if so, any ideas on how to fix it?             

 

 

Thanks,

Jonathan

 


NVDA default shortcuts and Google Docs

simon wheatcroft
 

Hi,

I am currently having an issue with Google Docs moving to next elements. The keyboard shortcut for this is:

Ctrl + Alt + N

This is also the shortcut for turn NVDA on/off. Is there a way to change this default NVDA shortcut? So i can navigate my google docs documents

Many thanks

Simon


Re: Drag and Drop

=?ISO-2022-JP?Q?=1B$B9b=4082=22=1B=28J?=
 

我覺得如果對照原文那的確怪怪的,那是因為原文就寫的怪怪的。
如果參照應用實況那就沒錯了,頂多是不夠精確,
因為歧視不專只點字輸入,點顯氣上的其他控制鍵也能接受,但是原文也沒這麼說。
所以我說翻譯真的市一門藝術,這種屬於參考說明的文件還是要能讓使用者容易理解比較重要,
不像文學作品必須終於原著。

On Thu, 4 Feb 2021, Meet modi wrote:

Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 11:39:24 +0530
From: Meet modi <meetmodi2359@gmail.com>
Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Drag and Drop
As par my knowledge there is no command for dragg and dropp
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, 01:12 Nancy Shackelford <n.k.nancelady@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there an N V D A keystroke for this? I'm on this word thing where
in one of the questions you have to drag and drop the correct answer
into the space.
Thanks,
Nance

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Re: Excel 365: Adding Note on Cell

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

The reason I won’t try that is because up until about a month ago, I was not running any add-ons, and this problem has been going on for quite a while.


On Feb 3, 2021, at 7:13 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:


Thanks Bob,

The other thing to try is if you press NVDA+Q then down arrow to "Restart with add-ons disabled", see if that makes a difference.

Quentin.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 12:34 PM Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...> wrote:
I'm not sure a debug log would help, but I'll send you one next time I
need to use the context menu. My understanding of the issue was the
original question was that if you try to add a note to a cell using
the context menu NVDA would quit speaking altogether until you
navigated away from and then back into the spreadsheet. That is
exactly the issue I have with 2016. The thread I started is here:
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/having_issues_with_nvda_with/78332368?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,340,78332368

On 2/3/21, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
> Bob,
>
> I think there might be several issues at play here:
>
> 1) The original question was around adding notes to cells.  This works if
> you use the shortcut but not if you do it via the context menu - because we
> programmed our dialog to be triggered via the shortcut key.
>
> 2) I'm not familiar with your context menu query, but other functions
> should work via the context menu, eg inserting cells, opening format cells,
> sort, filter, etc. - I didn't trawl through issues extensively, so there
> may be an issue I'm not familiar with.
>
> If there isn't already an issue for your context menu freeze, then we'd
> definitely like to explore it further - a debug log replicating the issue
> would be a great place to start.  Do email me offlist if you want to share
> a log - info@...
>
> Kind regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 5:57 AM Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...> wrote:
>
>> This sounds like the exact same issue I have with Excel 2016, not 365
>> using NVDA 2020.3. This was the first post I made to this list back in
>> December when I joined, and was recommended an alpha build to try to
>> fix the problem. As that was a few months ago, I would assume that
>> build has been integrated into 2020.4, though I don't know for sure.
>> This happens to me any time I use the context menu though. Usually in
>> my case, I use it to insert and delete cells, and just like the
>> original message, I have to alt+tab away from and back into the
>> spreadsheet to get NVDA to speak again. I'm not even sure if 2016 has
>> the note feature. Either way, I don't use it, but this is a problem
>> with any action involving the context menu.
>>
>> On 2/2/21, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@...> wrote:
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > I am using NVDA 2020.4 Beta 4 and Excel for Microsoft 365 (the offline
>> > app not the web-based interface). I navigated to a cell wherein I
>> > wanted to write a brief remark, pressed the Applications key, and then
>> > pressed Enter on the New Note Add a note about this part of the
>> > document option. This opens up something that NVDA is completely
>> > silent in. Tabbing or arrowing around doesn't help, nor does object
>> > navigation. I have to press Escape and Alt+Tab away and back to the
>> > spreadsheet to get back to the cell, and "has comment" (which comment
>> > I presume would be blank) is reported by NVDA. I would like to
>> > properly access this note/comment editing area so as to actually use
>> > this Excel feature. Is this a known accessibility issue or can it be
>> > resolved? Are there work-arounds?
>> >
>> > I would greatly appreciate any assistance.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Best Regards
>> > Bhavya Shah
>> > Stanford University | Class of 2024
>> > E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@...
>> > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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Re: NVDA 2020.4 Beta 1 now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Indeed, thanks Bobby, yes 2020.4beta4 is out :)  I didn't even get into that since it looked like Peter had simply posted to the wrong thread.

Anyone who missed the more recent announcement about that can read the full info and download here: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-4beta4/

And we're about to put out a release candidate soon, so the final version will be out a week or so after that - unless we hit any bugs and go to RC2, in which case push that back by a week or so :)

Quentin.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 4:56 PM Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

Well nvda 2020.4 baita 4 is out.  Just correcting you and every one posting to the list.

On 2/4/2021 12:47 AM, Afik Souffir wrote:

Hi,
When the official release should be?


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 7:37:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2020.4 Beta 1 now available
 
Peter,

Did you intend to reply to this thread?  Only this thread started life as being about a new NVDA beta (and you haven't commented in it before, nor has anyone called Moses).

Quentin.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 4:16 PM Peter Chin <peter.chinpk@...> wrote:
Hello Moses,
 
Sorry for the delay in replying.
 
Using Window-Eyes screenreader on Windows8.1, I found very little difference in the two versions you sent me. I have not tried using other screenreaders as I am not very familiar with them. I did slightly prefer the OB version as there seemed to be fewer strange punctuation.
 
Thanks for sending.
 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 6:13 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2020.4 Beta 1 now available
 
Hi everyone,
 
Lazily copying my tweet - so you get everything in one sentence: NVDA 2020.4Beta1 is now available for testing, including  new Chinese Input methods, an update to Liblouis, the elements list now works in focus mode, context sensitive help pressing F1 in NVDA dialogs & heaps more!
 
 
As usual, please do report any issues on GitHub.
 
Kind regards
 
Quentin.
 
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Training and Support Manager


Re: Drag and Drop

Meet modi
 

As par my knowledge there is no command for dragg and dropp


On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, 01:12 Nancy Shackelford <n.k.nancelady@...> wrote:
Is there an N V D A keystroke for this? I'm on this word thing where
in one of the questions you have to drag and drop the correct answer
into the space.
Thanks,
Nance

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Re: NVDA 2020.4 Beta 1 now available

Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...>
 

Well nvda 2020.4 baita 4 is out.  Just correcting you and every one posting to the list.

On 2/4/2021 12:47 AM, Afik Souffir wrote:

Hi,
When the official release should be?


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 7:37:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2020.4 Beta 1 now available
 
Peter,

Did you intend to reply to this thread?  Only this thread started life as being about a new NVDA beta (and you haven't commented in it before, nor has anyone called Moses).

Quentin.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 4:16 PM Peter Chin <peter.chinpk@...> wrote:
Hello Moses,
 
Sorry for the delay in replying.
 
Using Window-Eyes screenreader on Windows8.1, I found very little difference in the two versions you sent me. I have not tried using other screenreaders as I am not very familiar with them. I did slightly prefer the OB version as there seemed to be fewer strange punctuation.
 
Thanks for sending.
 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 6:13 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2020.4 Beta 1 now available
 
Hi everyone,
 
Lazily copying my tweet - so you get everything in one sentence: NVDA 2020.4Beta1 is now available for testing, including  new Chinese Input methods, an update to Liblouis, the elements list now works in focus mode, context sensitive help pressing F1 in NVDA dialogs & heaps more!
 
 
As usual, please do report any issues on GitHub.
 
Kind regards
 
Quentin.
 
--
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Training and Support Manager



--
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Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA 2020.4 Beta 1 now available

Afik Souffir
 


Hi,
When the official release should be?


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 7:37:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2020.4 Beta 1 now available
 
Peter,

Did you intend to reply to this thread?  Only this thread started life as being about a new NVDA beta (and you haven't commented in it before, nor has anyone called Moses).

Quentin.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 4:16 PM Peter Chin <peter.chinpk@...> wrote:
Hello Moses,
 
Sorry for the delay in replying.
 
Using Window-Eyes screenreader on Windows8.1, I found very little difference in the two versions you sent me. I have not tried using other screenreaders as I am not very familiar with them. I did slightly prefer the OB version as there seemed to be fewer strange punctuation.
 
Thanks for sending.
 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 6:13 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2020.4 Beta 1 now available
 
Hi everyone,
 
Lazily copying my tweet - so you get everything in one sentence: NVDA 2020.4Beta1 is now available for testing, including  new Chinese Input methods, an update to Liblouis, the elements list now works in focus mode, context sensitive help pressing F1 in NVDA dialogs & heaps more!
 
 
As usual, please do report any issues on GitHub.
 
Kind regards
 
Quentin.
 
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



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Training and Support Manager

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