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Re: I am needing assistance updating to the latest version of NVDA

Betsy Grenevitch
 

Sorry to clutter the list but I wanted to thank David and Sarah for helping me so much. I did not have the website that sarah mentioned written down before and when I went in that way it worked. I have memory problems now and thus the reason my confidence level is even lower. Thank you both for helping me have the courage to try downloading it this way.


Thank you to those who designed the website that the link said exactly what told me that I was at the correct spot to download the latest update.



On 7/30/2020 3:59 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

You will be fine. Go to nvda-project.org and use yoru screen reader's find function to find and navigate. You will be fine. You won't get hurt.

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On 30 Jul 2020, at 12:25, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:

Thank you. I am waiting to hear back from David hopefully with a link to the full install. As I have told you and now told him I do not feel comfortable with websites where I have to download something unless there is a direct link. I know it is a fear I need to get over but I guess it is because of a lack of training on computers.


On 7/30/2020 11:39 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
And to add to Mr. Goldfield's advice, if you have an issue running the full installer for NVDA 2020.2, then manually uninstall whatever NVDA you currently have installed via Control Panel, Programs and Features, then trying to install the latest again.  But don't do that first, as an install-over install generally works just fine.
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Re: Tutorials for sighted users.

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Robert


With out putting any thing together the following page will help the web developer from web aim.


The link to this page is https://webaim.org/articles/nvda/



I can also put together more info on a page like turning on the focus high lighter etc and also link to this page. Even though it is not updated it is still relevant for testing a website with NVDA.


I think there is also a link on mmy website to this same page.



I will see what I come up with later on today..



Gene nz


On 31/07/2020 10:40 am, Robert Kingett wrote:

In my particular case, it is mainly web developers that want to do manual testing with NVDA. I have some casual friends that want to learn, out of curiosity, but mostly, it's web developers.


Re: Tutorials for sighted users.

 

In my particular case, it is mainly web developers that want to do manual testing with NVDA. I have some casual friends that want to learn, out of curiosity, but mostly, it's web developers.


Re: Tutorials for sighted users.

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Robert


Not that I am aware of apart from the stuff I have written.


Would it be more web based? or on the desk top?


I can put some thing together for the sighted then later on post it on the website of mine for every one.


I have done some thing similar for a dyslexic people but in that case pointed towards the mouse and reading  what is under it which can be toggled with a shortcut now.



There are probably already parts up there that I can use for it.



Is it more based at what a sighted person sees on screen like a trainer or say testing a website etc?


Gene nz



On 31/07/2020 3:18 am, Robert Kingett wrote:

Wasn't sure if this should go in the chat subgroup, but I am looking for tutorials geared towards sighted users of NVDA? I have many sighted people wanting to test with it, but they can't grasp the concept of keyboard navigation. They're still using the mouse to interact. Also, they are tabbing everywhere. Is there a tutorial for testers?


Re: I am needing assistance updating to the latest version of NVDA

Betsy Grenevitch
 

David, thank you. I will try to do it. Thanks for your encouragement that it will get easier over time.



On 7/30/2020 5:15 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hi.

Betsy,

The NV Access Web site doesn't have a direct download link. When you select the Download link the file usually doesn't begin downloading. Instead, there is a form which gives you the option of donating to the NV Access project. There are radio buttons on the page where you can choose an amount to donate but there is a choice to skip the donation, which you are absolutely free to do. Once you complete this form the download process should start. Depending on which Web browser you are using and how it has been set up the download might begin automatically or you might receive some additional prompts. I think that the more you try it the easier it will become and the more your confidence level will increase. The bottom line is that we really can't provide a link that will immediately initiate the download process.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 7/30/2020 4:58 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 03:25 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:
As I have told you and now told him I do not feel comfortable with websites where I have to download something unless there is a direct link.
-
And, as you said, it's something you need to get over.  When you go to the nvaccess.org website, the folks who created and maintain NVDA, the Download link is at the very top of the page and there's another option elsewhere.

It is absolutely, positively not up to anyone to provide anyone else with direct links, even though I, and many others, do so quite frequently.  If you can't trust the site of the entity that makes something then trusting anyone providing you a link is a much bigger leap of faith.
 
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Re: I am needing assistance updating to the latest version of NVDA

David Goldfield
 

Hi.

Betsy,

The NV Access Web site doesn't have a direct download link. When you select the Download link the file usually doesn't begin downloading. Instead, there is a form which gives you the option of donating to the NV Access project. There are radio buttons on the page where you can choose an amount to donate but there is a choice to skip the donation, which you are absolutely free to do. Once you complete this form the download process should start. Depending on which Web browser you are using and how it has been set up the download might begin automatically or you might receive some additional prompts. I think that the more you try it the easier it will become and the more your confidence level will increase. The bottom line is that we really can't provide a link that will immediately initiate the download process.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 7/30/2020 4:58 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 03:25 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:
As I have told you and now told him I do not feel comfortable with websites where I have to download something unless there is a direct link.
-
And, as you said, it's something you need to get over.  When you go to the nvaccess.org website, the folks who created and maintain NVDA, the Download link is at the very top of the page and there's another option elsewhere.

It is absolutely, positively not up to anyone to provide anyone else with direct links, even though I, and many others, do so quite frequently.  If you can't trust the site of the entity that makes something then trusting anyone providing you a link is a much bigger leap of faith.
 
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: for Joseph Lee

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, I seem to remember it might be called web root. at least that was the program that did this some years ago for me. it did not stay on the computer for long.

On 30/07/2020 19:42, Andre Fisher wrote:
Hi.
I recall that there is an antivirus package that blocks use of NVDA with the web, or at least makes it very difficult to use. I don't remember the name though, and was wondering if he had it installed.


Re: I am needing assistance updating to the latest version of NVDA

 

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 03:25 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:
As I have told you and now told him I do not feel comfortable with websites where I have to download something unless there is a direct link.
-
And, as you said, it's something you need to get over.  When you go to the nvaccess.org website, the folks who created and maintain NVDA, the Download link is at the very top of the page and there's another option elsewhere.

It is absolutely, positively not up to anyone to provide anyone else with direct links, even though I, and many others, do so quite frequently.  If you can't trust the site of the entity that makes something then trusting anyone providing you a link is a much bigger leap of faith.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: microsoft edge saying loading compleat

Luke Davis
 

The other thing you can probably do, is replace the phrase "loading complete" with nothing, in one of the pronunciation dictionaries.

Luke

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020, Bobby Vinton wrote:

Hay I am using the new Microsoft edge and I was wondering if you could stop nvda from saying loading compleat every time you open or going to a nother web page?  Just let me know


Re: I am needing assistance updating to the latest version of NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

You will be fine. Go to nvda-project.org and use yoru screen reader's find function to find and navigate. You will be fine. You won't get hurt.

--

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Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

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On 30 Jul 2020, at 12:25, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:

Thank you. I am waiting to hear back from David hopefully with a link to the full install. As I have told you and now told him I do not feel comfortable with websites where I have to download something unless there is a direct link. I know it is a fear I need to get over but I guess it is because of a lack of training on computers.


On 7/30/2020 11:39 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
And to add to Mr. Goldfield's advice, if you have an issue running the full installer for NVDA 2020.2, then manually uninstall whatever NVDA you currently have installed via Control Panel, Programs and Features, then trying to install the latest again.  But don't do that first, as an install-over install generally works just fine.
--

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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

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Re: I am needing assistance updating to the latest version of NVDA

Betsy Grenevitch
 

Thank you. I am waiting to hear back from David hopefully with a link to the full install. As I have told you and now told him I do not feel comfortable with websites where I have to download something unless there is a direct link. I know it is a fear I need to get over but I guess it is because of a lack of training on computers.


On 7/30/2020 11:39 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
And to add to Mr. Goldfield's advice, if you have an issue running the full installer for NVDA 2020.2, then manually uninstall whatever NVDA you currently have installed via Control Panel, Programs and Features, then trying to install the latest again.  But don't do that first, as an install-over install generally works just fine.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

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678-862-3876


Re: for Joseph Lee

Andre Fisher
 

Hi.

I recall that there is an antivirus package that blocks use of NVDA with the web, or at least makes it very difficult to use. I don't remember the name though, and was wondering if he had it installed.


Re: how do I silence the "space" bar?

CARLOS-ESTEBAN
 

Hello.
Well... NVDA Extension Global Plugin is good, but the manual no is in english, only the file readme.
Now, is possible use speech dictionaries only in somme applications using this add-on:
Regards.

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.
Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios con discapacidad visual en el
uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología.
Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

Musicien (pianist) and also help to users with a visual disability in the use of screen readers and technology.
Certified expert in screen reader NVDA.



El mié., 29 de jul. de 2020 a la(s) 18:39, abdul muhamin (abdulmuhamin600@...) escribió:

You can use global plugin for NVDA, it has a lot of functionality which makes it unique. Get it from

here

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Curtis Delzer
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 2:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I silence the "space" bar?

 

thanks, I'll definitely look into this.

 

Curtis Delzer

HS

K 6 V F O

Rialto, CA

 

curtis@...

 

On 7/29/2020 2:13 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

> The first thing that springs to mind is using one of the speech

> dictionaries, presuming you have letters being pronounced, and

> substitute the space character with no replacement.

>

> Since you mention "many applications" that implies "not all."  You may

> want to use application profiles as part of this, but I'm not quite

> clear at the moment how that would be tied in with dictionaries, which I

> believe are independent of the application profile being used, but I

> could be wrong.

>

> --

>

> Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

>

> */Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its

> platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth./*

>

> ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in /New York Times/ article, /How Anti-Vaccine

> Sentiment Took Hold in the United States/

> <https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html>/,/September

> 23, 2019

>

>

 

 

 


Re: microsoft edge saying loading compleat

 

Hi,
A workaround is already available: I know I'm advertising this a lot, but install Windows 10 App Essentials, then open NVDA menu/Preferences/Settings/Object Presentation and turn off "report notifications". If you do turn this off, you won't be able to hear things such as volume changes from File Explorer, notifications from many apps, and so on (technical: this is UIA notification event).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] microsoft edge saying loading compleat

I don't know if their is a way to do this. Narrator does the same thing.

On 7/30/2020 11:24 AM, Bobby Vinton wrote:
Hay I am using the new Microsoft edge and I was wondering if you could
stop nvda from saying loading compleat every time you open or going to
a nother web page? Just let me know




Re: for Joseph Lee

 

Hi,

According to another thread, he tried. I bet it is something that will require eventual remote assistance. I won’t be able to provide such a service until mid-August at the earliest.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 10:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

Have you tried the obvious fix by running the com registration fixing tool that comes with NVDA?

 

 

 

 

 

From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: 30 July 2020 17:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

ever since getting my new HP Pavillian I have not been able to use NVDA on a web page.It says google legacy in chrome and nothing at all on any other browser. if I tab it says unknown.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:51 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

Robert. What seems to be the problem?

On 7/30/2020 5:18 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Joseph Lee says, as much as he wishes to help, he won’t be able to do so until mid-August.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

This concerns my new HP pc not liking NVDA. Does your busy schedule allow you time to remote to this pc to get an idea of where the problem lies?

 

******Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !

 

Family times where there is fun for every ear!
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Re: for Joseph Lee

Chris
 

Have you tried the obvious fix by running the com registration fixing tool that comes with NVDA?

 

 

 

 

 

From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: 30 July 2020 17:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

ever since getting my new HP Pavillian I have not been able to use NVDA on a web page.It says google legacy in chrome and nothing at all on any other browser. if I tab it says unknown.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:51 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

Robert. What seems to be the problem?

On 7/30/2020 5:18 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Joseph Lee says, as much as he wishes to help, he won’t be able to do so until mid-August.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

This concerns my new HP pc not liking NVDA. Does your busy schedule allow you time to remote to this pc to get an idea of where the problem lies?

 

******Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !

 

Family times where there is fun for every ear!
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3

 


Re: for Joseph Lee

Lino Morales
 

And I'm assuming your running latest build of Google Chrome, Edge, and FF?

On 7/30/2020 12:49 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:
ever since getting my new HP Pavillian I have not been able to use NVDA on a web page.It says google legacy in chrome and nothing at all on any other browser. if I tab it says unknown.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

Robert. What seems to be the problem?

On 7/30/2020 5:18 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Joseph Lee says, as much as he wishes to help, he won’t be able to do so until mid-August.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

This concerns my new HP pc not liking NVDA. Does your busy schedule allow you time to remote to this pc to get an idea of where the problem lies?

 

******Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !

 

Family times where there is fun for every ear!
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3


Re: microsoft edge saying loading compleat

Lino Morales
 

I don't know if their is a way to do this. Narrator does the same thing.

On 7/30/2020 11:24 AM, Bobby Vinton wrote:
Hay I am using the new Microsoft edge and I was wondering if you could stop nvda from saying loading compleat every time you open or going to a nother web page?  Just let me know



Re: for Joseph Lee

Jackie
 

Yeah, Robert--I hate to say this, but HP is known for its massive
amount of bloatware. When my dad got his, I removed it all. & I've
done likewise on other clients as well. Having thus said, though, did
you try Tyler's solution?

On 7/30/20, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
ever since getting my new HP Pavillian I have not been able to use NVDA on a
web page.It says google legacy in chrome and nothing at all on any other
browser. if I tab it says unknown.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lino Morales
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] for Joseph Lee


Robert. What seems to be the problem?


On 7/30/2020 5:18 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:



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Re: for Joseph Lee

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

ever since getting my new HP Pavillian I have not been able to use NVDA on a web page.It says google legacy in chrome and nothing at all on any other browser. if I tab it says unknown.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

Robert. What seems to be the problem?

On 7/30/2020 5:18 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Joseph Lee says, as much as he wishes to help, he won’t be able to do so until mid-August.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

This concerns my new HP pc not liking NVDA. Does your busy schedule allow you time to remote to this pc to get an idea of where the problem lies?

 

******Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !

 

Family times where there is fun for every ear!
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3