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Re: taking screen shots using nvda?

Quentin Christensen
 

It depends on your keyboard.  On a regular desktop keyboard, if you head to the right of F12, and above the INSERT / DELETE group you get to Print screen, Scroll Lock and Pause / Break.  Three keys that don't get a lot of love nowadays, which also means if you are using a laptop.... They could be anywhere.... NVDA's Input Help (NVDA+1) will identify them if you press them, though on a laptop you may need to press Fn+ another key.

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 12:17 PM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:

where is the print key found at?


On 7/19/2018 6:32 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Press the PRINTSCREEN key to take a screenshot of the whole screen.

ALT+PRINTSCREEN takes a shot of only the active Window (so not the task bar or anything else)

The image itself is copied to the clipboard and you can paste it in an email (depending on your email client it may paste it in the body, or as an attachment.

If you press WINDOWS+PRINTSCREEN it will automatically save the image to your "Pictures" library in the "Screenshots" folder, called screenshot.png for the first one, then screenshot(2).png for the second and so on.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:26 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
hello

how do I take a screen shot using nvda?  I am trying to trouble shoot a issue with one of my voip adapters and localphone is wanting screen shots

how do I accomplish this with nvda?

I never took a screen shot before and really haven't ran in to a situation where I needed to until now

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Re: taking screen shots using nvda?

 

I am currently using windows10


On 7/19/2018 6:54 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
What version of Windows are you running?

Quentin's advice does apply to all versions of Windows, but Windows 10 gives you another option where you don't need to deal with any image editor to save them.

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Re: taking screen shots using nvda?

 

where is the print key found at?


On 7/19/2018 6:32 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Press the PRINTSCREEN key to take a screenshot of the whole screen.

ALT+PRINTSCREEN takes a shot of only the active Window (so not the task bar or anything else)

The image itself is copied to the clipboard and you can paste it in an email (depending on your email client it may paste it in the body, or as an attachment.

If you press WINDOWS+PRINTSCREEN it will automatically save the image to your "Pictures" library in the "Screenshots" folder, called screenshot.png for the first one, then screenshot(2).png for the second and so on.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:26 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
hello

how do I take a screen shot using nvda?  I am trying to trouble shoot a issue with one of my voip adapters and localphone is wanting screen shots

how do I accomplish this with nvda?

I never took a screen shot before and really haven't ran in to a situation where I needed to until now

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Re: taking screen shots using nvda?

 

What version of Windows are you running?

Quentin's advice does apply to all versions of Windows, but Windows 10 gives you another option where you don't need to deal with any image editor to save them.

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Re: File not found. when saving text file- RESOLVED

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, Quentin.


Sorry for the late response. I already sorted out my problem by resetting my other laptop and now it works fine smoothly.


Robert Mendoza


qOn 7/19/2018 1:06 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

It sounds much more like a problem with notepad and / or locating that testing.txt file in your documents rather than anything NVDA is doing.  Since you mentioned it happened with a portable copy of NVDA, if you run a temporary copy of NVDA 2018.2.1 (from the installer, select "Continue running"), does the problem come back?  (that way you can test it before upgrading back to 2018.2.1).

If it does, could you please send me a copy of your log (ideally at debug level - press NVDA+q, then down arrow to "restart with debug logging" and enter).  Email to info@....

Since the error mentions this testing.txt file, have you ever opened or saved a file by that name?

Regards

qQuentin.

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:52 AM, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:
Hi, Brian

What I did for to check this is removed the installed NVDA to my machine and deleted all files thoroughly. Then, run with portable but no luck.


It is kinda strange because if I am going to use an older version like 2018.1 as example I could save them with no problem. By the way, I am using Windows 10 to my other unit of laptop.Generally, not sure what the real cause of misbehaving to function.
Robert Mendoza


On 7/18/2018 10:01 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Does this only happen in notepad and noting else?

I have noticed a delay that sometimes occurs on the save dialogue actually operating, but not anything as you describe.
Seems illogical as you say as you are not actually loading anything unless something's is running that you do not know about. If you now run the later version as a portable does the effect return?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Mendoza" <lowvisiontek@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 11:53 AM
Subject: [nvda] File not found. when saving text file


Hi,

I recently noticed strange behavior to my other machine after I got updated to stable version of NVDA 2018.2.1, when I am about to save particular file in notepad as regular text file format.it keeps me prompting me with an error
C:\Users\rbmendoza\Documents\testing.txt
File not found.

Though fact, I am just wanting to save a regular text file so, as alternative I done some troubleshooting to ensure the behavior I removed it thoroughly the 2018.2.1, reboot after then tried to installed older version of NVDA which is 2018.1 then the saving process works fine. Not sure what seems the problem for this . Hope could someone could help me for this matter. Thanks.

Robert Mendoza















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Re: taking screen shots using nvda?

Quentin Christensen
 

Press the PRINTSCREEN key to take a screenshot of the whole screen.

ALT+PRINTSCREEN takes a shot of only the active Window (so not the task bar or anything else)

The image itself is copied to the clipboard and you can paste it in an email (depending on your email client it may paste it in the body, or as an attachment.

If you press WINDOWS+PRINTSCREEN it will automatically save the image to your "Pictures" library in the "Screenshots" folder, called screenshot.png for the first one, then screenshot(2).png for the second and so on.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:26 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
hello

how do I take a screen shot using nvda?  I am trying to trouble shoot a issue with one of my voip adapters and localphone is wanting screen shots

how do I accomplish this with nvda?

I never took a screen shot before and really haven't ran in to a situation where I needed to until now

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Re: use ctrl+shift+s is not read notes when I in powerpoint

Quentin Christensen
 

Dear Logo Kuo,

CONTROL+SHIFT+S only works to read notes when you are delivering the presentation itself (after you have pressed F5).  Then it toggles between NVDA reading the slide and the notes (but still only shows the slide on screen).

To get to the notes pane when designing the slide, you can press F6 to move between window sections.  The Notes is near the end so maybe SHIFT+F6 to get from the slide to it, and F6 to get back.  If the Notes pane isn't there, press CONTROL+SHIFT+H to unhide it (that is a toggle so if it is visible it will hide it).

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 10:01 AM, 特種兵 <afreettears@...> wrote:

hi all:

  look up nvda command quick reference
  when we in powerpoint can use ctrl+shift+s to read notes
  so I edit e notes after press this key to got a dialog about save new file only
  whats wrong
  sorry for my terrible english

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taking screen shots using nvda?

 

hello

how do I take a screen shot using nvda?  I am trying to trouble shoot a issue with one of my voip adapters and localphone is wanting screen shots

how do I accomplish this with nvda?

I never took a screen shot before and really haven't ran in to a situation where I needed to until now

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Re: Add-on development: contracts, Python and such

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi Joseph.  I actually have a web hosting plan which I have not used because of various work and family reasons which doesn't permit me the time to develop my site.  It has two more years to run, so rather than let it go to waste, and if you and the developers are interested, write me off list and we can make the arrangements.  There will be no cost involved,   just a little gesture to the community for doing such great and wonderful work for all of us.  Cheers!


On 20/7/2018 2:53 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Dear all,

 

the certification from NV Access is a very good opportunity to learn NVDA and become an expert to provide support. However, for developing add-ons a separate certification would be necessary.

NV Access has a list of contributors, in the NVDA menu / help / contributors. But a list of scripter / programers needs to be updated which is not very simple.

 

I think the solution is to organize kind of boot camps in your local region / local country where programers can learn how to use github, how to read NVDA’s internals and NVDA’s code ans so on.

We have  lots of tutorials in inglish on how to do it. But the most tutorials are not popular because they are only on github. We need a separate platform only for NVDA Wikis, where people are not distracted by the huge amount of other functions. This wiki platform should show a clear line where to start and how to proceed after developing an add-on to make it available for everyone.

On this platform, there should be two sections, core development and add-on development. A third section should be dedicated to translations, both from a translator and from a developer perspective.

 

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Joseph Lee
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2018 20:07
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Add-on development: contracts, Python and such

 

Hi,

At the moment the closest to that would be:

https://certification.nvaccess.org

 

Some folks listed on that site are add-on authors, while others are technology trainers. I think what may help might be a way to let certified experts specify list of services they provide, such as training and add-on development.

 

Another idea that I’ve been thinking is to offer a chance for beginning developers or those interested in writing NVDA add-ons and/or interested in code contributions to receive mentoring from experienced developers. The overall purpose of this is to let beginners ask questions about development to those who know what they are doing, as well as to pass on our knowledge to the next group of NVDA add-on authors and code contributors. When I pitched this idea to members of the devlearning subgroup a few days ago, at least two people said “yes”, which confirmed what I’ve been suspecting for a while: it is time to pass on our knowledge, and how important it is to let others contribute needed code for things such as supporting professional and enterprise applications and such. Also, mentoring the next group of developers has been something I’ve been meaning to do for a while, and I want to see this happen before I move on.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 9:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on development: contracts, Python and such

 

Yes, I think it would be useful for the NvAccess site to have a list of available scripters and their locations, and then state agencies would have a resource to contact for such things.

I work for a state agency, and I hate it when people bash state agencies without knowing how things work for such things.

Granted, some staff who don’t use screenreaders can’t possibly remember all the solutions, although they should, they don’t, so they think only of the one solution that is most common.

But I have brought up the topic of NVDA as a solution in the workplace, and then the issue of scripting comes up.

 

Glenn

 

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 11:50 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Add-on development: contracts, Python and such

 

Hi,

I’m starting a brand new thread that should provide a space to talk about add-on development, including contract work, Python and such.

 

Cheers,

Joseph



Re: VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

At the time I didn’t know about it. I think I did ask about that as well, and if I remember the answer was no. And there was no room on the surface thing all the usb slots were taken. These guys really wanted me to use jaws, and I told you  the rest of what hapepned in another post.  I’m actually kind of glad I left although I will miss the kids. They never go the typing programs and stuff I set up to work, but oh well.

On Jul 19, 2018, at 5:44 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Sarah,

         Although it is not the perfect solution, could you not have used NVDA portable?   I've really grown to love portable versions when I run up against the "we won't install it" attitude.  I have yet to work in a business environment where you can't use a jump drive, though.

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Re: VFO not complimentary about NVDA

 

Sarah,

         Although it is not the perfect solution, could you not have used NVDA portable?   I've really grown to love portable versions when I run up against the "we won't install it" attitude.  I have yet to work in a business environment where you can't use a jump drive, though.

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Re: VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

I agree with all of yoru stattments, jean. I fact I used that same argument in regard to nvda, even showed them a bit of how it worked, they basically told me that I was going to use jaws on the surface thing and I was going to like it, Ok they were a lot more nicer than that but I was not happy about it still.

On Jul 19, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Yes


Considering NVDA has been around say 10 years and jaws is it 23 or 25
years. So that means there is almost 15 extra years of code there they have.


Yet when i speak to people from our foundation in the adaptive tech
section in alot of cases NVDA gets recommended for home use and they are
surprised how fast things are coming together with it.


I also note with jaws even though it as you say is a leader has put in
stuff after we have had it in there for a year or 2.


Yet NVDA can help more people than jaws throughout the world and be
installed in alot of places without extra cost.


Gene nz



On 7/19/2018 9:38 PM, Steve Nutt wrote:
You might catch up, whether it will be quickly or not is another matter. There's a lot more that NVDA needs to do to come close to JAWS.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: 18 July 2018 21:11
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Well nvda is not jaws, the only reason jaws is better than nvda is its older than us and thats just about it.

But I think we will get there.

We have a scripting language which is a standard language that people use, we use standard libraries and formats, there is no custom company proprietry code anywhere.

Saying that, nvda was built for the cloud and web systems a lot of the newer apps handle well with it.

Universal we are not there just yet but we are damn close now to that.

Jaws is older, we don't have what jaws has right now so jaws is still better than nvda but we will catch up, and quickly.




On 7/19/2018 8:05 AM, Gene wrote:
That is not true. There are many cases where JAWS is superior for business uses and where the user can define things that may mean the difference between immediate productivity or waiting for someone to develop an NVDA script.

You can't create frames in NVDA. That is essential for a product that would be represented as on a par with JAWS for business and academic and other specialized uses.

You can't redefine structures such as something that presents itself as a list and you want it represented as something else to get proper functionality.

You don't have the control over how much is spoken automatically as you do with JAWS. That is, there is no screen echo setting as there is in JAWS. At times, such a setting is very valuable.

I helped a woman who was using a VPN for medical transcribing from home. I defined frames that read specific things, such as only the relevant lines of screens and only when needed such as announcing very specific text on the log in screens. I don't remember if I had the frames do anything else such as move the cursor to the proper fields.

This kind of bashing is inaccurate and is ideological. Many of the features people use daily and love in NVDA were either developed in JAWS or refined there. Don't disparage the sholders of those who developed screen-readers and made invaluable contribution to their general design that NVDA stands on.

None of which is to say that NVDA isn't a powerful screen-reader. It is. But there are certain uses where JAWS is still superior and that superiority may mean the difference between employment or not in some settings.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 11:03 AM
To: Nvda List
Subject: Re: [nvda] VFO not complimentary about NVDA


Oh come on. I’ve not ben using freedom rash tiva's products now for 8 years and I’m quite happy with it. I do talk to employers though and they say I either use jaws or nothing at all, they don’t want to install nvda on their systems. I explain what it is, and even my services here don’t want to deal with nvda even though i’ve brought it up. They don’t like open source. I wish that people would quit using freedom trash tiva’s stuff and switch to nvda, it is over all the best experience and getting better on a daily basis.

On Jul 18, 2018, at 8:33 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I have just listened to the latest issue of Techtalk from the RNIB in the uk on Audioboom, and there is an interview with the software man at VFO about what they sell and future plans, and the guy asked him about NVDA Though not actually trashing it, he used that old ploy that one of the programmers has now left to go to Mozilla and nobody will install NVDA in a business system because its open source etc. anyway, go and have a listen and see what you think. I guess his job is to big up his own company, but I noticed, dear old Dolphin never even got mentioned!
Brian

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Re: Questions About Internet Explorer

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I don't think internet explorer will go way for maybe a year ot two. An agent at the disability line told me that edge would be the new browser to take its place.




On 7/19/2018 4:06 PM, Abbie Taylor wrote:
Ibrahim, for some reason, this message went to the list three times. There is also an option to organize favorites in the favorites menu, if I remember correctly. It's been a while since I've used Internet Explorer. After pressing Alt plus A, arrow down once, and there it is. After you click on that, you should  be able to move, delete, or do whatever you want with your favorites.

On the other hand, I heard somewhere a long time ago that Microsoft is gradually fazing out support for Internet Explorer in favor of Edge and that Internet Explorer is no longer stable with Windows 10. An agent from the Microsoft Answer Desk recently told me otherwise, so now I'm wondering which is right. I would love to be able to use Internet Explorer. I like it better than Firefox or Chrome. Any ideas?


use ctrl+shift+s is not read notes when I in powerpoint

特種兵
 

hi all:

  look up nvda command quick reference
  when we in powerpoint can use ctrl+shift+s to read notes
  so I edit e notes after press this key to got a dialog about save new file only
  whats wrong
  sorry for my terrible english

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Re: Problem with NVDA and Braille input

Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...>
 

I've noticed similar issues with my BrailleNote Touch, and I have my braille table set to Grade 2. I mostly use my qwerty keyboard for typing and the Touch for proofreading and editing. The backspace, space, and enter keys work as they should with NVDA, but if there is some way to input braille with the Perkins-style keyboard on my Touch and have it come out right, that would be nice.


Re: Questions About Internet Explorer

Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...>
 

Ibrahim, for some reason, this message went to the list three times. There is also an option to organize favorites in the favorites menu, if I remember correctly. It's been a while since I've used Internet Explorer. After pressing Alt plus A, arrow down once, and there it is. After you click on that, you should  be able to move, delete, or do whatever you want with your favorites.

On the other hand, I heard somewhere a long time ago that Microsoft is gradually fazing out support for Internet Explorer in favor of Edge and that Internet Explorer is no longer stable with Windows 10. An agent from the Microsoft Answer Desk recently told me otherwise, so now I'm wondering which is right. I would love to be able to use Internet Explorer. I like it better than Firefox or Chrome. Any ideas?


Re: VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Yes


Considering NVDA has been around say 10 years and jaws is it 23 or 25
years. So that means there is almost 15 extra years of code there they have.


Yet when i speak to people from our foundation in the adaptive tech
section in alot of cases NVDA gets recommended for home use and they are
surprised how fast things are coming together with it.


I also note with jaws even though it as you say is a leader has put in
stuff after we have had it in there for a year or 2.


Yet NVDA can help more people than jaws throughout the world and be
installed in alot of places without extra cost.


Gene nz

On 7/19/2018 9:38 PM, Steve Nutt wrote:
You might catch up, whether it will be quickly or not is another matter. There's a lot more that NVDA needs to do to come close to JAWS.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: 18 July 2018 21:11
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Well nvda is not jaws, the only reason jaws is better than nvda is its older than us and thats just about it.

But I think we will get there.

We have a scripting language which is a standard language that people use, we use standard libraries and formats, there is no custom company proprietry code anywhere.

Saying that, nvda was built for the cloud and web systems a lot of the newer apps handle well with it.

Universal we are not there just yet but we are damn close now to that.

Jaws is older, we don't have what jaws has right now so jaws is still better than nvda but we will catch up, and quickly.




On 7/19/2018 8:05 AM, Gene wrote:
That is not true. There are many cases where JAWS is superior for business uses and where the user can define things that may mean the difference between immediate productivity or waiting for someone to develop an NVDA script.

You can't create frames in NVDA. That is essential for a product that would be represented as on a par with JAWS for business and academic and other specialized uses.

You can't redefine structures such as something that presents itself as a list and you want it represented as something else to get proper functionality.

You don't have the control over how much is spoken automatically as you do with JAWS. That is, there is no screen echo setting as there is in JAWS. At times, such a setting is very valuable.

I helped a woman who was using a VPN for medical transcribing from home. I defined frames that read specific things, such as only the relevant lines of screens and only when needed such as announcing very specific text on the log in screens. I don't remember if I had the frames do anything else such as move the cursor to the proper fields.

This kind of bashing is inaccurate and is ideological. Many of the features people use daily and love in NVDA were either developed in JAWS or refined there. Don't disparage the sholders of those who developed screen-readers and made invaluable contribution to their general design that NVDA stands on.

None of which is to say that NVDA isn't a powerful screen-reader. It is. But there are certain uses where JAWS is still superior and that superiority may mean the difference between employment or not in some settings.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 11:03 AM
To: Nvda List
Subject: Re: [nvda] VFO not complimentary about NVDA


Oh come on. I’ve not ben using freedom rash tiva's products now for 8 years and I’m quite happy with it. I do talk to employers though and they say I either use jaws or nothing at all, they don’t want to install nvda on their systems. I explain what it is, and even my services here don’t want to deal with nvda even though i’ve brought it up. They don’t like open source. I wish that people would quit using freedom trash tiva’s stuff and switch to nvda, it is over all the best experience and getting better on a daily basis.

On Jul 18, 2018, at 8:33 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I have just listened to the latest issue of Techtalk from the RNIB in the uk on Audioboom, and there is an interview with the software man at VFO about what they sell and future plans, and the guy asked him about NVDA Though not actually trashing it, he used that old ploy that one of the programmers has now left to go to Mozilla and nobody will install NVDA in a business system because its open source etc. anyway, go and have a listen and see what you think. I guess his job is to big up his own company, but I noticed, dear old Dolphin never even got mentioned!
Brian

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Re: Smartphones with Keypads or Keyboards

 

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 04:06 PM, Andy wrote:
Kapsys
Andy, I can say the Kapsys phones, MiniVision, SmartVision2, and SmartVision2 Premium are definitely not built on the Freetel Mushashi, which is a flip phone where the upper half is a small touch screen which can be used just like any other Android device and the lower half is a standard mobile phone digit keypad with power button, etc.

The three Kaysys phones are all candy bar style phones with a screen and digit pad and they do not fold.  I've actually never seen anything like them, so I wonder if they did have one of the major makers do a one-off redesign especially for them.
 
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Re: issues with latest version of nvda

 

Update:

I restarted my computer. Issue has been fixed. Firefox works properly.





On 7/19/2018 2:57 PM, Governor staten wrote:
Hello. I'm running latest version of the alpha version. I'm having serious issues with NVDA. This is the dialog title, "nvdaHelperRemote (outprocMgrThreadFunc)". I have a dialog box that pops up saying "error registering focus with event hook". There is an okay button there. Firefox doesn't work, neither does Waterfox. I have this stuff from NVDA.OLD log file.


DEBUG - core._terminate (12:16:16.858):
Terminating treeInterceptorHandler
DEBUG - core._terminate (12:16:16.858):
Terminating IAccessible support
DEBUG - core._terminate (12:16:16.858):
Terminating UIA support
DEBUGWARNING - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.terminate (12:16:17.078):
Timeout or error while waiting for UIAHandler MTA thread
DEBUG - core._terminate (12:16:17.078):
Terminating winConsole support
DEBUG - core._terminate (12:16:17.079):
Terminating Java Access Bridge support
DEBUG - core._terminate (12:16:17.079):
Terminating app module handler
DEBUG - core._terminate (12:16:17.081):
Terminating NVDAHelper
DEBUG - core._terminate (12:16:17.086):
Terminating touchHandler
DEBUG - core._terminate (12:16:17.086):
Terminating keyboard handler
DEBUG - core._terminate (12:16:17.086):
Terminating mouseHandler
DEBUG - core._terminate (12:16:17.086):
Terminating inputCore
DEBUG - core._terminate (12:16:17.088):
Terminating brailleInput
DEBUG - core._terminate (12:16:17.088):
Terminating braille
DEBUG - core._terminate (12:16:17.098):
Terminating speech
DEBUG - core._terminate (12:16:17.098):
Terminating addonHandler
DEBUG - core.main (12:16:18.164):
core done
INFO - __main__ (12:16:18.198):
NVDA exit
Any help with this one is much appreciated.





Re: Add-on development: contracts, Python and such

Sarah k Alawami
 

I know that this was discussed a while ago. I agree that something does have to be done, but I have no clue how we would get the companies on board. I like your thinking though.

On 19 Jul 2018, at 11:58, Adriani Botez wrote:

And as far as contracting is concerned, we will not have access to professional programers like freedom scientific because many companies do not know how to manage open-source projects. Many people think that they cannot earn anything with open-source projects.

 

Something has to change in the way of thinking to get to the point where every assistive technology company provides professional support for NVDA.

 

In any case, if programers want to get paid for their add-ons, than we need an add-on store for NVDA where developers can place paid add-ons. Maybe NV Access thinks about it.

 

Yannick Plassyard from France has developed such a store.

 

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Adriani Botez
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2018 20:54
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Add-on development: contracts, Python and such

 

Dear all,

 

the certification from NV Access is a very good opportunity to learn NVDA and become an expert to provide support. However, for developing add-ons a separate certification would be necessary.

NV Access has a list of contributors, in the NVDA menu / help / contributors. But a list of scripter / programers needs to be updated which is not very simple.

 

I think the solution is to organize kind of boot camps in your local region / local country where programers can learn how to use github, how to read NVDA’s internals and NVDA’s code ans so on.

We have  lots of tutorials in inglish on how to do it. But the most tutorials are not popular because they are only on github. We need a separate platform only for NVDA Wikis, where people are not distracted by the huge amount of other functions. This wiki platform should show a clear line where to start and how to proceed after developing an add-on to make it available for everyone.

On this platform, there should be two sections, core development and add-on development. A third section should be dedicated to translations, both from a translator and from a developer perspective.

 

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Joseph Lee
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2018 20:07
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Add-on development: contracts, Python and such

 

Hi,

At the moment the closest to that would be:

https://certification.nvaccess.org

 

Some folks listed on that site are add-on authors, while others are technology trainers. I think what may help might be a way to let certified experts specify list of services they provide, such as training and add-on development.

 

Another idea that I’ve been thinking is to offer a chance for beginning developers or those interested in writing NVDA add-ons and/or interested in code contributions to receive mentoring from experienced developers. The overall purpose of this is to let beginners ask questions about development to those who know what they are doing, as well as to pass on our knowledge to the next group of NVDA add-on authors and code contributors. When I pitched this idea to members of the devlearning subgroup a few days ago, at least two people said “yes”, which confirmed what I’ve been suspecting for a while: it is time to pass on our knowledge, and how important it is to let others contribute needed code for things such as supporting professional and enterprise applications and such. Also, mentoring the next group of developers has been something I’ve been meaning to do for a while, and I want to see this happen before I move on.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 9:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on development: contracts, Python and such

 

Yes, I think it would be useful for the NvAccess site to have a list of available scripters and their locations, and then state agencies would have a resource to contact for such things.

I work for a state agency, and I hate it when people bash state agencies without knowing how things work for such things.

Granted, some staff who don’t use screenreaders can’t possibly remember all the solutions, although they should, they don’t, so they think only of the one solution that is most common.

But I have brought up the topic of NVDA as a solution in the workplace, and then the issue of scripting comes up.

 

Glenn

 

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 11:50 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Add-on development: contracts, Python and such

 

Hi,

I’m starting a brand new thread that should provide a space to talk about add-on development, including contract work, Python and such.

 

Cheers,

Joseph