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locked Re: New NVDA user who's looking for Eloquence

Maria Reyes
 

I did not get your email.

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On Apr 14, 2021, at 11:09 PM, Chris Smart <ve3rwj@...> wrote:



I can neither confirm nor deny that. (grin) I emailed you off list though. Hopefully you got it.



On 2021-04-14 11:04 p.m., Maria Reyes wrote:
Hi, My friend said she got her eloquence from a friend of hers and he said that it was the JAWS Eloquence voice? is that the version we're not allowed to talk about on the list? 

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On Apr 13, 2021, at 10:37 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:


Hi Maria,

Everyone has pretty much answered your question - actually although Code Factory was mentioned, the link wasn't given, you can find the page here: https://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/

The other thing I was going to add was if you are a new NVDA user and have come to us from Jaws - firstly welcome! - and secondly, you might find the guide to switching from Jaws to NVDA helpful: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA

Otherwise, if you encounter any other questions or issues in getting setup and running with NVDA, please do let us know.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 6:27 AM Maria Reyes <sassyblindgirl@...> wrote:

Hi I got a new computer and just installed NVDA! How do I get Eloquence?



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Training and Support Manager


locked Re: New NVDA user who's looking for Eloquence

Chris Smart
 

I can neither confirm nor deny that. (grin) I emailed you off list though. Hopefully you got it.



On 2021-04-14 11:04 p.m., Maria Reyes wrote:
Hi, My friend said she got her eloquence from a friend of hers and he said that it was the JAWS Eloquence voice? is that the version we're not allowed to talk about on the list? 

want to talk about all aspects of blindness? Join the blind chatroom list by sending an email to blind-chatroom-request@... with subscribe in the subject 

On Apr 13, 2021, at 10:37 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:


Hi Maria,

Everyone has pretty much answered your question - actually although Code Factory was mentioned, the link wasn't given, you can find the page here: https://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/

The other thing I was going to add was if you are a new NVDA user and have come to us from Jaws - firstly welcome! - and secondly, you might find the guide to switching from Jaws to NVDA helpful: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA

Otherwise, if you encounter any other questions or issues in getting setup and running with NVDA, please do let us know.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 6:27 AM Maria Reyes <sassyblindgirl@...> wrote:

Hi I got a new computer and just installed NVDA! How do I get Eloquence?



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


locked Re: New NVDA user who's looking for Eloquence

Maria Reyes
 

Hi, My friend said she got her eloquence from a friend of hers and he said that it was the JAWS Eloquence voice? is that the version we're not allowed to talk about on the list? 

want to talk about all aspects of blindness? Join the blind chatroom list by sending an email to blind-chatroom-request@... with subscribe in the subject 

On Apr 13, 2021, at 10:37 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:


Hi Maria,

Everyone has pretty much answered your question - actually although Code Factory was mentioned, the link wasn't given, you can find the page here: https://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/

The other thing I was going to add was if you are a new NVDA user and have come to us from Jaws - firstly welcome! - and secondly, you might find the guide to switching from Jaws to NVDA helpful: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA

Otherwise, if you encounter any other questions or issues in getting setup and running with NVDA, please do let us know.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 6:27 AM Maria Reyes <sassyblindgirl@...> wrote:

Hi I got a new computer and just installed NVDA! How do I get Eloquence?



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: comment section in you tube is not displaying

Quentin Christensen
 

Interesting, I specifically can't get to the "add a public comment" edit with e - the only edit box NVDA sees is the search edit up the top - and that's even if I'm on my avatar next to the comment edit, so I know it's loaded.  I wondered if it was that it hadn't loaded and so NVDA hadn't seen it, but a) NVDA can navigate to it and read "Edit add a public comment", but even if I refresh NVDA's buffer at that point, it still can't find it.


On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 5:55 AM JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:
I usually use Chrome on youtube. What I do is open a video. I hit the letter e twice, and this puts me directly in the comment field. This seems to have become more rather than less reliable lately (the comment field seems to have been moved on the video pages by youtube, but I’m not quite sure of its new position on the screen,  if any.)
Chrome seems by far to give the best youtube experience for me. I find firefox to be a little unmanageable on youtube and slow, and I don't use any other chromium-based browsers currently to determine whether they work as well as Google Chrome.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: April 13, 2021 11:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] comment section in you tube is not displaying

I suspect there is something wrong with Youtube.  On another list there is discussion that comments canbe be seen with Edge but not with one or two other browsers.

Also, because the person asking the question has been seeing them before and something must have changed.

I tried looking for comments on a page and I didn't find them even though I skimmed down the page to allow it to change.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] comment section in you tube is not displaying


Although there is something which acts like an edit field to "add a public
comment", it's done in such a way that it isn't actually a traditional edit
field, so you can't find it by navigating by edit field or even form field.
The best way I've found to get to it is:

1. Press NVDA+control+f to open NVDA's find function.
2. Type the word "comments" (without quotes)
3. Press ENTER to move to the first instance of the word.
4. Press TAB twice to move past "Sort by" and onto the edit field.

I have found that sometimes everything hasn't loaded and it can't find
comments.  In this case, escape the error dialog, press CONTROL+END to jump
to the bottom of the page, then up arrow and it's usually actually at the
comments - YouTube seems to load the video and then related / suggested
videos, then after that the comments, and sometimes it doesn't load the
comments until you actually scroll down to the bottom of the page to get to
them.

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 12:10 PM Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...>
wrote:
Not sure if this problem occurs with the NVDA but I will give a shot to
discuss here.

Does anyone could noticed in the youtube website the comment section is
not displaying. Well, this is the second time I noticed this and
observing and tried to shift to different browser but no luck.











--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Web: www.nvaccess.org
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess














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Re: Blackboard and NVDA

 

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 06:42 PM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
If your school has a disability office, they should be able to tell you whether other blind students have had any difficulties with Blackboard.
-
I say the following not to disparage either Disability Services Offices at colleges nor blind students, but it really is important to keep the following in mind:

1. There are lots of Disability Services Offices that have individuals running them or on "the front line" that have very little experience in the field.  And I can say that from having had to teach folks I would have assumed would know about screen readers in some detail the basics.  There are also smaller schools (and several exist in my area) where a blind student is, relatively speaking, rare.

2. What was the experience level of the students being used as reference points with screen readers prior to using Blackboard?  I have had pitched battles with several schools about setting up sandbox systems for blind and visually impaired students to "play with" before they actually have to use Blackboard for real course management task.  I have had a number of students (as a tutor) who are trying to learn to use a screen reader at the same time as they're trying to learn to use Blackboard at the same time they're trying to absorb the course material.  Let me say that it generally doesn't go smoothly.

When it comes to #2, make sure you know that you're comparing like to like skill level to get a realistic sense of what may be the situation for you.  If you're a skilled screen reader user Blackboard is, by and large, just another web based application.
 
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Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: Blackboard and NVDA

Giles Turnbull
 

I used Blackboard for a university course in 2018/19 and it worked fine. There are a few website articles about people's experiences of using Blakboard with screen-reading software, and the verdict is that it usually depends on how the university have configured their version of Blackboard. Some universities do it well, and others don't!

If your school has a disability office, they should be able to tell you whether other blind students have had any difficulties with Blackboard. Good luck with your course(s) :)

Giles


Re: comment section in you tube is not displaying

Blaster
 

I agree with all of the suggestions mentioned on this thread and would
like to add one more thing. People who post videos on YouTube have the
option to not have comments show for that video, also, they can have
them on and for any reason they can turn them off. This info doesn't
apply to one browser showing comments and another hiding them, as
YouTube doesn't discriminate against any choice of browser.

HTH,
Blaster

On 4/14/21, JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote:
Something seems to have changed for me recently … I don’t know whether it is
a setting, something youtube is trying with certain servers or what, but the
comments now seem to load before suggested videos, and appear higher on the
page than other non-currently-playing-video-related content.

It seems that many of us have different sorts of youtube experiences
dependent onv arious sometimes unknown factors, which is interesting, but
doesn’t always make suggesting solutions straightforward.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin
Christensen
Sent: April 13, 2021 10:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] comment section in you tube is not displaying



Although there is something which acts like an edit field to "add a public
comment", it's done in such a way that it isn't actually a traditional edit
field, so you can't find it by navigating by edit field or even form field.
The best way I've found to get to it is:



1. Press NVDA+control+f to open NVDA's find function.

2. Type the word "comments" (without quotes)

3. Press ENTER to move to the first instance of the word.

4. Press TAB twice to move past "Sort by" and onto the edit field.



I have found that sometimes everything hasn't loaded and it can't find
comments. In this case, escape the error dialog, press CONTROL+END to jump
to the bottom of the page, then up arrow and it's usually actually at the
comments - YouTube seems to load the video and then related / suggested
videos, then after that the comments, and sometimes it doesn't load the
comments until you actually scroll down to the bottom of the page to get to
them.



Kind regards



Quentin.



On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 12:10 PM Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@gmail.com
<mailto:lowvisiontek@gmail.com> > wrote:

Not sure if this problem occurs with the NVDA but I will give a shot to
discuss here.

Does anyone could noticed in the youtube website the comment section is
not displaying. Well, this is the second time I noticed this and
observing and tried to shift to different browser but no luck.













--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



Web: <http://www.nvaccess.org/> www.nvaccess.org

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>









Re: comment section in you tube is not displaying

JM Casey
 

Something seems to have changed for me recently … I don’t know whether it is a setting, something youtube is trying with certain servers or what, but the comments now seem to load before suggested videos, and appear higher on the page than other non-currently-playing-video-related content.

It seems that many of us have different sorts of youtube experiences dependent onv arious sometimes unknown factors, which is interesting, but doesn’t always make suggesting solutions straightforward.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: April 13, 2021 10:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] comment section in you tube is not displaying

 

Although there is something which acts like an edit field to "add a public comment", it's done in such a way that it isn't actually a traditional edit field, so you can't find it by navigating by edit field or even form field.  The best way I've found to get to it is:

 

1. Press NVDA+control+f to open NVDA's find function.

2. Type the word "comments" (without quotes)

3. Press ENTER to move to the first instance of the word.

4. Press TAB twice to move past "Sort by" and onto the edit field.

 

I have found that sometimes everything hasn't loaded and it can't find comments.  In this case, escape the error dialog, press CONTROL+END to jump to the bottom of the page, then up arrow and it's usually actually at the comments - YouTube seems to load the video and then related / suggested videos, then after that the comments, and sometimes it doesn't load the comments until you actually scroll down to the bottom of the page to get to them.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 12:10 PM Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:

Not sure if this problem occurs with the NVDA but I will give a shot to
discuss here.

Does anyone could noticed in the youtube website the comment section is
not displaying. Well, this is the second time I noticed this and
observing and tried to shift to different browser but no luck.







 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


Re: comment section in you tube is not displaying

JM Casey
 

I usually use Chrome on youtube. What I do is open a video. I hit the letter e twice, and this puts me directly in the comment field. This seems to have become more rather than less reliable lately (the comment field seems to have been moved on the video pages by youtube, but I’m not quite sure of its new position on the screen, if any.)
Chrome seems by far to give the best youtube experience for me. I find firefox to be a little unmanageable on youtube and slow, and I don't use any other chromium-based browsers currently to determine whether they work as well as Google Chrome.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: April 13, 2021 11:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] comment section in you tube is not displaying

I suspect there is something wrong with Youtube. On another list there is discussion that comments canbe be seen with Edge but not with one or two other browsers.

Also, because the person asking the question has been seeing them before and something must have changed.

I tried looking for comments on a page and I didn't find them even though I skimmed down the page to allow it to change.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] comment section in you tube is not displaying


Although there is something which acts like an edit field to "add a public
comment", it's done in such a way that it isn't actually a traditional edit
field, so you can't find it by navigating by edit field or even form field.
The best way I've found to get to it is:

1. Press NVDA+control+f to open NVDA's find function.
2. Type the word "comments" (without quotes)
3. Press ENTER to move to the first instance of the word.
4. Press TAB twice to move past "Sort by" and onto the edit field.

I have found that sometimes everything hasn't loaded and it can't find
comments. In this case, escape the error dialog, press CONTROL+END to jump
to the bottom of the page, then up arrow and it's usually actually at the
comments - YouTube seems to load the video and then related / suggested
videos, then after that the comments, and sometimes it doesn't load the
comments until you actually scroll down to the bottom of the page to get to
them.

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 12:10 PM Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
wrote:
Not sure if this problem occurs with the NVDA but I will give a shot to
discuss here.

Does anyone could noticed in the youtube website the comment section is
not displaying. Well, this is the second time I noticed this and
observing and tried to shift to different browser but no luck.











--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Web: www.nvaccess.org
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: How to use eventHandler.requestEvents

 

Hi,

I see. Do you know if this event is mapped to an existing NvDA event? One way to find out is running AccEvent, part of Windows SDK tools. If not, it will involve some runtime under the hood changes to let NvDA recognize this event (not sure how to do this for Microsoft Active Accessibility, but it’s a bit involved in UI Automation; based on Windows 10 App Essentials add-on source code in front of me, it involves runtime manipulation of UIA events map; at least that’s the high-level overview, so let’s discuss this on a different list).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of falkogiepmans@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 9:11 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to use eventHandler.requestEvents

 

"focusChanged" is an SAP event, not a NVDA event. I want NVDA to be able to listen to this SAP event and handle it the same way as NVDA handles it own events.
I think I misunderstand not only requestEvents but also some other event related stuff in NVDA, so I'll check your suggested example and lurk around in the suggested groups to figure out what I actually want.

 

 


Re: How to use eventHandler.requestEvents

falkogiepmans@...
 

"focusChanged" is an SAP event, not a NVDA event. I want NVDA to be able to listen to this SAP event and handle it the same way as NVDA handles it own events.
I think I misunderstand not only requestEvents but also some other event related stuff in NVDA, so I'll check your suggested example and lurk around in the suggested groups to figure out what I actually want.
 
 


Re: How to use eventHandler.requestEvents

falkogiepmans@...
 

Thanks Brian and Joseph! I think both groups are interesting to look around in.
 
 


Re: How to use eventHandler.requestEvents

 

Hi,

I think one way to distinguish between these two would be the scope of the question:

  • Add-ons list is there for add-on authors to congregate and talk about add-on writing.
  • If the question is about NVDA Core (screen reader) development itself, then it might be better suited on the development list.

There is some overlap, but I think the above criteria is one way of distinguishing between the two.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 8:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to use eventHandler.requestEvents

 

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 11:38 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

The add-ons list does discuss coding but is geared towards add-on authoring, which I think is the intent behind the question.

-
And you'd be far better at reading between the lines for the intent behind this question than I am.  Thanks for that additional pointer.  I'm never quite sure which of the development focused groups is best to direct someone to, and I try to avoid doing so unless the question is clearly development related.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: How to use eventHandler.requestEvents

 

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 11:38 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
The add-ons list does discuss coding but is geared towards add-on authoring, which I think is the intent behind the question.
-
And you'd be far better at reading between the lines for the intent behind this question than I am.  Thanks for that additional pointer.  I'm never quite sure which of the development focused groups is best to direct someone to, and I try to avoid doing so unless the question is clearly development related.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: How to use eventHandler.requestEvents

 

Hi,

I think a more appropriate list would be NVDA Add-ons list:

https://nvda-addons.groups.io/g/nvda-addons

The add-ons list does discuss coding but is geared towards add-on authoring, which I think is the intent behind the question.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 8:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to use eventHandler.requestEvents

 

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 08:17 AM, <falkogiepmans@...> wrote:

Is this the place to post these kind of questions?

-
Not really.  The focus here is on how to use NVDA as an end user, not as a developer.

There is actually an NVDA Screen Reader Development Group where this sort of "under the hood" discussion is more suited.  Note well that it is NOT a general user support list (which the NVDA Group is), but is focused on those doing coding:

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: How to use eventHandler.requestEvents

 

Hi,

Where did you see “focusChanged” event defined in NVDA? I can’t see that event defined in my copy of NVDA screen reader source code at the moment.

To answer the original question at hand: without going into details (something reserved for NVDA Add-ons list), eventHandler.requestEvents function is designed to let app modules respond to app events in the background. This is useful if you need to let NvDA monitor changes to an app control from everywhere. For example, an app might raise name change event in an app, and you may wish to let NVDA announce changes to this control from everywhere. A practical example in use is StationPlaylist add-on where NVDA is told to monitor for changes in status bar texts from everywhere.

Cheers,

Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of falkogiepmans@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 5:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] How to use eventHandler.requestEvents

 

Hi all,

Currently I am working on a appModule for SAP, this has its own API and internal events. I would like NVDA to be able to listen to some of those events. One of these events is "FocusChanged", since NVDA does not notice this in SAP. My idea was to use requestEvents as follows:

Example Code
class AppModule(appModuleHandler.AppModule):
    def __init__(self, *args, **kwargs):
        super().__init__(*args, **kwargs)
        eventHandler.requestEvents("FocusChanged", processId=self.processID,windowClassName='someWindow')
End Example Code

And use this event in some overlayclass:

Example Code
class SAPClass(IAccessible):
    def event_FocusChanged(self):
        ...do something...
End Example Code

This does not seem to work. Is this what eventHandler.requestEvents is meant for or am I understanding it wrong? I am quite new to events in general but I want to get my head around it.
Side question: Is this the place to post these kind of questions?

Thanks in advance,
Falko

 

 


Re: How to use eventHandler.requestEvents

 

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 08:17 AM, <falkogiepmans@...> wrote:
Is this the place to post these kind of questions?
-
Not really.  The focus here is on how to use NVDA as an end user, not as a developer.

There is actually an NVDA Screen Reader Development Group where this sort of "under the hood" discussion is more suited.  Note well that it is NOT a general user support list (which the NVDA Group is), but is focused on those doing coding:
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


How to use eventHandler.requestEvents

falkogiepmans@...
 

Hi all,

Currently I am working on a appModule for SAP, this has its own API and internal events. I would like NVDA to be able to listen to some of those events. One of these events is "FocusChanged", since NVDA does not notice this in SAP. My idea was to use requestEvents as follows:

Example Code
class AppModule(appModuleHandler.AppModule):
    def __init__(self, *args, **kwargs):
        super().__init__(*args, **kwargs)
        eventHandler.requestEvents("FocusChanged", processId=self.processID,windowClassName='someWindow')
End Example Code

And use this event in some overlayclass:

Example Code
class SAPClass(IAccessible):
    def event_FocusChanged(self):
        ...do something...
End Example Code

This does not seem to work. Is this what eventHandler.requestEvents is meant for or am I understanding it wrong? I am quite new to events in general but I want to get my head around it.
Side question: Is this the place to post these kind of questions?

Thanks in advance,
Falko
 
 


Re: comment section in you tube is not displaying

Quentin Christensen
 

When I was exploring before, I tried in both Firefox and Chrome.  I did find a couple of times it hadn't yet loaded the comments, which was why I thought it was waiting until the focus actually was at the bottom to load them - Either way, it is very slow.  I think it's just that sluggishness rather than a browser issue, but that's just a guess.


On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 2:33 PM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
The old trick of pressing Control+End, then shift+2 (to go back to the previous
heading level 2), still works to find comments.

However, Youtube is taking longer than ever to show comments now--I just had
timings of 3 seconds on one video, and 15 or so on another, before the Shift+2
actually worked.

However--I might test this more--if you pause the video (by hitting K, or
NVDA+F2 then K), then do the Control+End, Shift+2, that may load the comments
quicker. It seemed to in one test I did.

I don't generally use Youtube by computer, so YMMV, but these were my results in
Firefox just now.



--
Luke

"In this life there are obstacles, and forces who overcome obstacles. You can be either one or the other.
If you refuse to even try to clear an obstacle, you become the obstacle."
- Joel Shepherd







--
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Training and Support Manager


Re: comment section in you tube is not displaying

Luke Davis
 

The old trick of pressing Control+End, then shift+2 (to go back to the previous heading level 2), still works to find comments.

However, Youtube is taking longer than ever to show comments now--I just had timings of 3 seconds on one video, and 15 or so on another, before the Shift+2 actually worked.

However--I might test this more--if you pause the video (by hitting K, or NVDA+F2 then K), then do the Control+End, Shift+2, that may load the comments quicker. It seemed to in one test I did.

I don't generally use Youtube by computer, so YMMV, but these were my results in Firefox just now.



--
Luke

"In this life there are obstacles, and forces who overcome obstacles. You can be either one or the other.
If you refuse to even try to clear an obstacle, you become the obstacle."
- Joel Shepherd

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