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Re: Latest Skype and screen readers
JM Casey
Never really had accessibility problems with skype, but for a long time I wasn’t able to use it as my stuff was so old. You should use the so-called Skype Electron aka Skype for Desktop.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: September 18, 2020 11:29 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Latest Skype and screen readers
Heavens! Has skype become more and more less accessible? I don’t use it anymore. I’ve used it with win 7 a little with an earlier version of NVDA. I haven’t used it since 2015. I don’t think I want to use it anymore. I use facetime on the Ipad instead. No more skype for this grey duck! Lol.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: inamuddinInam Uddin via groups.io
I’m very sorry to let you know that I wrote this email on 08/12/2020 and today is 09/19/2020 but Skype has not fixed it yet. Unfortunately The fixed JAWS script for Skype is not working to my machine too! With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID: Charlsdarwin1
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Sarah k Alawami
Hello. See the skype english list. The jaws scripts have ben fixed. This is a problem with teams as well, and that was already fixed . That will be fixed hopefully in a skype update soon. -- Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. Check out my adventures with a shadow machine. to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there. For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here On 12 Aug 2020, at 17:18, Inam Uddin via groups.io wrote:
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Re: Accessible windows camera/video editing apps – do they exist?
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Re: Navigating to a specific link when there are many on a webpage
Tony Malykh
With my BrowserNav add-on, you can set your link to be a "browser
mark" - and then you can press letter J to jump to that mark. This
would be essentially finding your link by its title, except you
won't have to type the search term every time. If you do this
often - it'll save you a lot of time. --Tony
On 9/17/2020 12:50 AM, Andy Jobben
wrote:
Hi there NVDA users
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Accessible windows camera/video editing apps – do they exist?
Luke Robinett
I like to make the occasional YouTube video but so far have just relied on the very limited but fully accessible windows camera app. Just wondering if anybody has had any luck with third-party preferably free camera or video editing apps. It would be nice to be able to produce something a bit more professional. Thanks.
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Re: Navigating to a specific link when there are many on a webpage
Luke Robinett
Well, it turns out I’ve been studying python and have wanted to get started authoring my first NVDA add-on. Maybe this would be a candidate for a good first project. Basically I’m thinking you could bind a custom hotkey to a link or control on a page that you want to be able to jump directly to. Thoughts on something like this?
On Sep 18, 2020, at 8:24 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
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Re: Masked URLs in E-mail messages
Dzhovani
Actually, I can. Unless there is type of links that I've never met so far. NVDA+numpad5 would say "click here". NVDA+numpad8 for going down the object tree would say "click here, https://example.com/some-path-here". Works in Thunderbird and Firefox.
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Re: An inconvenience in Thunderbird
Gene
This may be such an isolated instance that it isn't worth
worrying about. The spellchecker has shortcut letters, the
options page, which mimics a dialog in many places, has shortcut
letters in a lot of places that mimic dialog fields. I don't know
if it does in all.
Those more familiar with the details of the program may know if this is a very rare instance or if there are more places where this occurs.
Gene
On 9/19/2020 12:03 PM, Brian Vogel
wrote:
Gene,
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Re: An inconvenience in Thunderbird
Gene,
It is my general understanding that the letter underlines, be they in a menu, set of buttons, or similar are what the program exposes to the screen reader. If the program itself isn't set up to pass this information to the screen reader, there's nothing the screen reader can announce (and, no, I won't even consider the very old "screen scraping" method of getting things as I don't know that any modern screen reader employs this mechanism). But I get the same result with NVDA that you do, in that the S for Save and the D for Discard are shown on those buttons with underlines yet there is no, "Save button, ALT+S" or "Discard changes button, ALT+D" announcements when you're on them, just the button names. This could be an NVDA issue, or it could be that Thunderbird is doing something peculiar with what it exposes, or doesn't expose, to NVDA. But that would be for the respective developers to work out between themselves. All an end user can know is that this is a problem, but you can't be 100% certain where the root cause lies. I have no idea how common or uncommon this might be. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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An inconvenience in Thunderbird
Gene
I've been using Thunderbird more over the last number of days and I realized that some of the dialogs aren't properly structured in the following regard:
When a button is announced, the shortcut letter should be spoken after the button. In some dialogs, this isn't done. For example, when you want to discard a message you are writing, a dialog asks you if you want to save or discard it. The buttons don't speak the short cut letters. At first, I thought that was because there aren't any. But experimentation discloses that alt d discards the message. I haven't tested for save but its probably alt s. I tried to get NVDA, the program I've been evaluating with, to read the shortcut letter by using the command NVDA key tab when on the button but that didn't cause it to be read. Evidently, the letters aren't underlined, which, it is my understanding, is the way screen-readers know to announce them in dialogs. Those who have used the program for a longer time may have a sense of how many dialogs are deficient in this respect. If the problem is rare, it may not be worth contacting the developers about. If it is rather common, it would be. Gene
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Re: Thunderbird 78.2.2
Gene
That is performing the equivalent action of stopping repetition and causing the message body to be read. I don't use skim mode and I don't know the specifics of what it reads with different commands. But you are telling it to read something and that something is all or part of the message body.
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Gene
On 9/19/2020 11:10 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I use NVDA. Yes, I do get some repititions if I press enter but if I press the up arrow key after pressing enter, I can read the entire message.
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Re: Thunderbird 78.2.2
Rosemarie Chavarria
I use NVDA. Yes, I do get some repititions if I press enter but if I press the up arrow key after pressing enter, I can read the entire message.
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On 9/18/2020 11:35 PM, Gene wrote:
Don't you get repetition if you just press enter? I don't use JAWS but if I press enter and do nothing else, I get a number of repetitions of the subject line.
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Re: Masked URLs in E-mail messages
Gene
You can do that if the links are written out. You can't if the links say something like click here.
Gene
On 9/19/2020 4:43 AM, Dzhovani wrote:
Hi,
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Re: Edge and/or NVDA crashes
Denis Sariyannis
In Chrome I can see that the browser window freezes. NVDA keeps running. But I think that it must have something to do with the combination of NVDA and Chromium or something like that. The normal view of Gmail is something that probably many people use with Chrome. ;) Am Sa., 19. Sept. 2020 um 12:30 Uhr schrieb Denis Sariyannis via groups.io <denis.sariyannis=gmail.com@groups.io>:
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Re: Latest Skype and screen readers
Chris Mullins
Hi I’m using Skype 8.64 with NVDA. When Skype first opens, it just announces “Skype” but all I do is press the alt key to open the menu bar, go to the view menu and arrow down to “toggle full screen” and press enter.
Cheers Chris
From: inamuddinInam Uddin via groups.io
Sent: 19 September 2020 00:16 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Latest Skype and screen readers
I’m very sorry to let you know that I wrote this email on 08/12/2020 and today is 09/19/2020 but Skype has not fixed it yet. Unfortunately The fixed JAWS script for Skype is not working to my machine too! With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID: Charlsdarwin1
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Sarah k Alawami
Hello. See the skype english list. The jaws scripts have ben fixed. This is a problem with teams as well, and that was already fixed . That will be fixed hopefully in a skype update soon. -- Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. Check out my adventures with a shadow machine. to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there. For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here On 12 Aug 2020, at 17:18, Inam Uddin via groups.io wrote:
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Re: Edge and/or NVDA crashes
Denis Sariyannis
It does not happen with Firefox. I'm going to test it with Chrome.
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Am 19.09.2020 um 12:24 schrieb Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>:
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Re: Edge and/or NVDA crashes
Hi, Does this happen with other browsers, say Chrome? Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Denis Sariyannis
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 3:09 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Edge and/or NVDA crashes
Hi all, when I work with edit fields or combo boxes in Edge NVDA or Edge often crashes. I'm not sure which of the programs causes the issue. NVDA is just silent when it happens. Sometimes I can restart NVDA by pressing a shortcut I set up and then it works again. But it also can happen that NVDA does not restart. Then it usually helps to start and close Narrator (CTRL+WINDOWS+ENTER) and that seems to help NVDA to speak again. Mostly I'm experiencing these crashes when I'm writing a mail on gmail.com or when I'm uploading tracks on Soundcloud. While writing this message, I had to restart NVDA six times cause it stopped working. I use Windows 10, latest stable version of Edge and NVDA 2020.2. Does anyone know what the reason could be? It is not nice! :)
Best Denis -- Denis Sariyannis
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Edge and/or NVDA crashes
Denis Sariyannis
Hi all, when I work with edit fields or combo boxes in Edge NVDA or Edge often crashes. I'm not sure which of the programs causes the issue. NVDA is just silent when it happens. Sometimes I can restart NVDA by pressing a shortcut I set up and then it works again. But it also can happen that NVDA does not restart. Then it usually helps to start and close Narrator (CTRL+WINDOWS+ENTER) and that seems to help NVDA to speak again. Mostly I'm experiencing these crashes when I'm writing a mail on gmail.com or when I'm uploading tracks on Soundcloud. While writing this message, I had to restart NVDA six times cause it stopped working. I use Windows 10, latest stable version of Edge and NVDA 2020.2. Does anyone know what the reason could be? It is not nice! :) Best Denis --
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Re: Masked URLs in E-mail messages
Dzhovani
Hi,
the way I check those things is to use the object navigation. Focus the link, nvda+numpad8, nvda+numpad5 three times to copy the text if the link is too complicated and followup paste in notepad to inspect it more closely. Works in Thunderbird, haven't checked it elsewhere. Also, you can try to check the mail in plain text and it might show you the href as well. HTH, Dzhovani
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Re: Thunderbird 78.2.2
Gene
Don't you get repetition if you just press enter? I don't use JAWS but if I press enter and do nothing else, I get a number of repetitions of the subject line.
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Gene
On 9/19/2020 1:17 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Gene,
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Re: Thunderbird 78.2.2
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Gene,
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I have my keyboard set to skim mode so all I have to do is press the up arrow and the message is read out. I haven't had to do that too often though because most of the messages are read out once I hit the enter key. Rosemarie
On 9/18/2020 11:14 PM, Gene wrote:
You shouldn't have to go to the top of the message. Just press enter to open it, wait a moment, then issue the read to end command.
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