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Re: unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?

Luke Davis
 

Joseph Lee wrote:

It is possible to let add-ons detect profile switches and "disable"
themselves if a different app is in use (it requires add-ons to listen to
config profile switched action and respond by removing/assigning gestures on
the fly; it may not work for custom gestures).
That would require each add-on to implement some kind of solution to this. Very fragmentary at best.

After thinking more about this, a possible solution has occurred to me.

Someone could write a "Disable Add-ons in Config Profiles" add-on (perhaps with a better name).

That add-on could listen for profile changes as Joseph described, and if the profile matches something pre-configured, have it look up all of another add-on's gestures, snapshot them, and disable them.

That could be done with manager.userGestureMap.getScriptsForAllGestures (as I do in the Numpad Nav Mode add-on).
Which I think would work fine for custom gestures, unless I'm forgetting something.

Then, on reversion to default or any other profile, reverse the process.

Provide a settings panel which lists available profiles, and gives a selection of add-ons which can be enabled or disabled in it.
(Really, just enabling/disabling their keyboard shortcuts).

I doubt I'd want to see that in core though. It seems as if it might be fragile; but as an add-on I could see it working.

Luke


Re: unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?

 

Hi,
It is possible to let add-ons detect profile switches and "disable"
themselves if a different app is in use (it requires add-ons to listen to
config profile switched action and respond by removing/assigning gestures on
the fly; it may not work for custom gestures). In reality, you are not
making add-ons disable themselves completely - you are effectively going to
let add-ons tell NVDA that they don't want to respond to hotkeys as long as
you are focused in a specific window. Python doesn't have a facility to
arbitrarily unload modules once imported.
Right now NV Access and several testers are trying to resolve a really
critical issue for SAPI4 synthesizer users. Specifically, NVDA crashes if
trying to use SAPI4 synthesizers. Hopefully it can be resolved before 2021.1
beta is released, but if not, one of the following could happen:
* NVDA may need to use older and thus quite insecure version of Python
(Python 3.7 has entered security fixes mode, so only source code releases
will be made), and this is based on a dump analysis from Mick Curran from NV
Access who noted that this issue is specific to Python 3.8 and later.
* It appears the issue might be something to do with a library Python uses,
and if yes, we need to talk to Python core developers so they can resolve it
by the time Python 3.10 comes out later this year.
* We may need to say goodbye to built-in support for SAPI4 speech
synthesizers.
I have several NVDA pull requests lined up and/or are undergoing planning
phase, but due to SAPI4 issue and a host of other problems, I have informed
NV Access that I'll target most of my pull requests for 2021.2 or later. Put
it simply, I won't expect Sarah's suggestion to be worked on anytime soon.
Sorry.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 3:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?

On Mon, 12 Apr 2021, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

look at maybe reassigning those until you can disable addons in a config
profile.

For the record (Joseph could speak much better about this), that seems very
unlikely to happen, and certainly not any time soon.
Some major portions of NVDA would have to be rewritten to facilitate it, and
there just isn't that kind of demand. Or, perhaps more accurately, there are
lots of things that are in much higher demand.

Now, I could see profile based gesture maps coming much sooner, which may
solve the kind of problem you are trying to address. Although I don't know
of any work currently being done in that area.

If you want that, comment about it here please:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8123

Luke

"In this life there are obstacles, and forces who overcome obstacles. You
can be either one or the other.
If you refuse to even try to clear an obstacle, you become the obstacle."
- Joel Shepherd


Re: unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?

Luke Davis
 

On Mon, 12 Apr 2021, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

look at maybe reassigning those until you can disable addons in a config profile.
For the record (Joseph could speak much better about this), that seems very unlikely to happen, and certainly not any time soon.
Some major portions of NVDA would have to be rewritten to facilitate it, and there just isn't that kind of demand. Or, perhaps more accurately, there are lots of things that are in much higher demand.

Now, I could see profile based gesture maps coming much sooner, which may solve the kind of problem you are trying to address. Although I don't know of any work currently being done in that area.

If you want that, comment about it here please: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8123

Luke

"In this life there are obstacles, and forces who overcome obstacles. You can be either one or the other.
If you refuse to even try to clear an obstacle, you become the obstacle."
- Joel Shepherd


locked Re: New NVDA user who's looking for Eloquence

Chris Smart
 

There is another version of Eloquence that we're not supposed to talk about... 😉😯


On 2021-04-13 4:56 p.m., Shaun Everiss wrote:

Easiest way is to go to atguys.com and buy either the sapi or addons for eloquence and vocaliser.

I would personally buy the sapi  and then forget about it but yeah thats basically it.

Install the launchers, activate them, then download your voices and go nuts.



On 14/04/2021 6:17 am, Maria Reyes wrote:

Hi I got a new computer and just installed NVDA! How do I get Eloquence?


locked Re: New NVDA user who's looking for Eloquence

Gerardo Corripio
 

And it's a very fair price for the bundle! It's about $70 or so. Good luck!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 13 abr 2021, a la(s) 3:56 p.m., Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> escribió:



Easiest way is to go to atguys.com and buy either the sapi or addons for eloquence and vocaliser.

I would personally buy the sapi  and then forget about it but yeah thats basically it.

Install the launchers, activate them, then download your voices and go nuts.



On 14/04/2021 6:17 am, Maria Reyes wrote:

Hi I got a new computer and just installed NVDA! How do I get Eloquence?


locked Re: New NVDA user who's looking for Eloquence

 

Easiest way is to go to atguys.com and buy either the sapi or addons for eloquence and vocaliser.

I would personally buy the sapi  and then forget about it but yeah thats basically it.

Install the launchers, activate them, then download your voices and go nuts.



On 14/04/2021 6:17 am, Maria Reyes wrote:

Hi I got a new computer and just installed NVDA! How do I get Eloquence?


locked Re: New NVDA user who's looking for Eloquence

Gerardo Corripio
 

AT Guys offers a combo Eloquence/Vocalizer, which is where I got mine. It works great!

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: Maria Reyes
Enviado: martes, 13 de abril de 2021 03:27 p. m.
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: [nvda] New NVDA user who's looking for Eloquence

 

Hi I got a new computer and just installed NVDA! How do I get Eloquence?

 


locked New NVDA user who's looking for Eloquence

Maria Reyes
 

Hi I got a new computer and just installed NVDA! How do I get Eloquence?


Re: Blackboard and NVDA

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

It's been a while since I've used Blackboard, but when I did I had
very few problems with it.

On 4/13/21, Maria Reyes <sassyblindgirl@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I am starting school this fall and was wondering how accessible
Blackboard is with NVDA?







Blackboard and NVDA

Maria Reyes
 

Hi, I am starting school this fall and was wondering how accessible Blackboard is with NVDA?


Reminder to Members about using most recent versions where possible #adminnotice

 

Hello All,

This is a reminder about the group rule about NVDA software, in particular, but others in general:  Upgrade to the latest version of NVDA before posting questions.  For all other software, please do the same when possible, but where not be sure you are using a version currently in support.

At the moment there are pending messages asking about version 2019.3, which needs to be updated to 2020.4 to see if that fixes the issue, first.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: ObjPad 21.04.1 and Resouce Monitor 21.04/21.04.1 released #addonrelease

 

Hi,

Apologies for CC mishap in an earlier post.

Important note on ObjPad add-on: version 21.04.1 is an emergency release – I (the add-on author) am no longer maintaining this add-on.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 4:43 AM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Cc: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] ObjPad 21.04.1 and Resouce Monitor 21.04/21.04.1 released #AddonRelease

 

Hi all,

ObjPad and Resource Monitor add-on updates are now available. These updates prepares the add-on to support newer NVDA releases. For folks using Resource Monitor, depending on update channel, you’ll get 21.04 (dev) or 21.04.1 (stable) – don’t worry, as these versions are identical.

 

Key highlights:

  • ObjPad 21.04.1: requires NVDA 2020.1 or later. Support for this add-on has ended officially in 2019 but an emergency release was made to support newer NVDA releases.
  • Resource Monitor 21.04/21.04.1: requires NvDA 2020.4 or later. This version changes the way NVDA announces resource summary when you copy it to clipboard by pressing resource commands twice (for example, NVDA will announce “copied” followed by average CPU usage information when you press NVDA+Shift+number row 1 twice).

 

As always, these updates can be fetched via Add-on Updater.

Cheers,

Joseph


ObjPad 21.04.1 and Resouce Monitor 21.04/21.04.1 released #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

ObjPad and Resource Monitor add-on updates are now available. These updates prepares the add-on to support newer NVDA releases. For folks using Resource Monitor, depending on update channel, you’ll get 21.04 (dev) or 21.04.1 (stable) – don’t worry, as these versions are identical.

 

Key highlights:

  • ObjPad 21.04.1: requires NVDA 2020.1 or later. Support for this add-on has ended officially in 2019 but an emergency release was made to support newer NVDA releases.
  • Resource Monitor 21.04/21.04.1: requires NvDA 2020.4 or later. This version changes the way NVDA announces resource summary when you copy it to clipboard by pressing resource commands twice (for example, NVDA will announce “copied” followed by average CPU usage information when you press NVDA+Shift+number row 1 twice).

 

As always, these updates can be fetched via Add-on Updater.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA doesn't read context menu

=?ISO-2022-JP?Q?=1B$B9b=4082=22=1B=28J?=
 

Hello Rowen

Thanks your help! You're right.

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021, Rowen Cary wrote:

Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 01:11:17 -0700
From: Rowen Cary <manchen_0528@outlook.com>
Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't read context menu
In fact, this problem plagues many NVDA users, not only uninstalling Office, even if you uninstall Mathplayer, it will also cause this to happen.
I think the Com registration repair tool is not reliable. This requires improvement by NVAccess. The following may help you:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807#issuecomment-320149243


Re: NVDA doesn't read context menu

Rowen Cary
 

In fact, this problem plagues many NVDA users, not only uninstalling Office, even if you uninstall Mathplayer, it will also cause this to happen.
I think the Com registration repair tool is not reliable. This requires improvement by NVAccess. The following may help you:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807#issuecomment-320149243


Re: NVDA doesn't read context menu

Chris
 

It may be a good idea to install a stable version rather than using alphas, until the issue has been resolved

 

 

 

 

 

From: 高生旺
Sent: 13 April 2021 05:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't read context menu

 

I've done every thing you said.

I'm sure it's missing a dll.

I need to know which it is.

 

On Mon, 12 Apr 2021, Luke Davis wrote:

 

> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 23:26:27 -0400 (EDT)

> From: Luke Davis <luke@...>

> Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't read context menu

>

>> I've remove nvda and re-install the newest alpha-22295,49a85788.

>> I still cannot read context menu.

> Did you run SFC and DISM as Brian explained? Because it is sounding more and

> more like a Windows problem. But still run the COM Reg Fix Tool a second

> time.

> --

> Luke

> "In this life there are obstacles, and forces who overcome obstacles. You can

> be either one or the other.

> If you refuse to even try to clear an obstacle, you become the obstacle."

> - Joel Shepherd

>

 

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA doesn't read context menu

=?ISO-2022-JP?Q?=1B$B9b=4082=22=1B=28J?=
 

I've done every thing you said.
I'm sure it's missing a dll.
I need to know which it is.

On Mon, 12 Apr 2021, Luke Davis wrote:

Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 23:26:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Luke Davis <luke@newanswertech.com>
Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't read context menu

I've remove nvda and re-install the newest alpha-22295,49a85788.
I still cannot read context menu.
Did you run SFC and DISM as Brian explained? Because it is sounding more and more like a Windows problem. But still run the COM Reg Fix Tool a second time.

--
Luke

"In this life there are obstacles, and forces who overcome obstacles. You can be either one or the other.
If you refuse to even try to clear an obstacle, you become the obstacle."
- Joel Shepherd





Re: NVDA doesn't read context menu

Luke Davis
 

I've remove nvda and re-install the newest alpha-22295,49a85788.
I still cannot read context menu.
Did you run SFC and DISM as Brian explained? Because it is sounding more and more like a Windows problem. But still run the COM Reg Fix Tool a second time.

--
Luke

"In this life there are obstacles, and forces who overcome obstacles. You can be either one or the other.
If you refuse to even try to clear an obstacle, you become the obstacle."
- Joel Shepherd


Re: NVDA doesn't read context menu

 

I would suggest not using the alpha.  Try installing 2020.4 and see if the issue persists.  Report back on if it does/does not.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: NVDA doesn't read context menu

Gene
 

Did you run the registration tool again, as was suggested? If that doesn't work, do you have system restore points? Runnning a restore point from before you uninstalled Office will likely correct whatever problem the uninstallation caused. Then, regardless of wheteher Office programs work or not, leave them installed.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: 高生旺
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 9:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't read context menu

I've remove nvda and re-install the newest alpha-22295,49a85788.
I still cannot read context menu.

On Mon, 12 Apr 2021, Brian Vogel wrote:

Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 18:47:10 -0700
From: Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com>
Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't read context menu

On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 09:35 PM, =?ISO-2022-JP?Q?=1B$B9b=4082=22=1B=28J?= wrote:
Do you know which one?

-
No. But you show no indication of having uninstalled/reinstalled NVDA. Have you?

You are not going to get additional help from me until and unless you start reporting on each and every step you've taken, and stopping after each to report the result.

This grasping at straws, which is what you're doing, and zig-zagging is not helpful, to anyone, least of all you.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself.

~ Richard M. Nixon





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