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Re: more on symbol pronounciation/remote access

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes but why stop there, see my other message. I'm happy to share mine but do not want to be accused of breaking somebody's screenreader!
How is NVDA Remote for the new code fixes doing, I think you are one of the authors of that.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tyler Spivey" <tspivey@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2018 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] more on symbol pronounciation


Then change the other two.
On 7/2/2018 11:44 AM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

Running NVDA 2018.2.1 on win7, working fine. In symbols pronounciation
I changed the first two items sentence endings the dot and bang
changed them to period and exclaimation, seleced ok, saved
configuration, and restarted NVDA, this did not work.

Thanks.
Dave.




Re: more on symbol pronounciation

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Strange I've done huge changes with semicolons apostrophes and loads of others and the seem to have stuck.
I think NVDA urgently needs an ability to load national variations of these symbols easily. When I wanted to give mine to somebody else it meant trying to see where the file was stored, and then putting my file in after renaming theirs, otherwise its either install it from a portable copy over theirs and lose their other settings or do it all one at a time and as we all know the symbols turn up multiple times so need to all be changed.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Mehler" <dave.mehler@...>
To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2018 7:44 PM
Subject: [nvda] more on symbol pronounciation


Hello,

Running NVDA 2018.2.1 on win7, working fine. In symbols pronounciation
I changed the first two items sentence endings the dot and bang
changed them to period and exclaimation, seleced ok, saved
configuration, and restarted NVDA, this did not work.

Thanks.
Dave.


Re: waterfox accessibility message

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Yes one thing I find about the current waterfox is that it seldom misses loading a page and presents the try again of firefox. it also does not go berserk warning you of trivial issues with web sites and presents understandable alerts that you do not need to be a dictionary or avid reader of help files to understand straight away. I have to also say that some bits of nvda might benefit from a less programmer driven language in explanations too.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <@smeveriss>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2018 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] waterfox accessibility message


Well waterfox is supposed to use both api bases both classic and otherwise.

Waterfox is only loosly based off firefox anyway.

They keep saying things will change.

To be honest if all options worked as they used to and all the buttons and old menubars could come back somehow that would be fine, tthere is an addon for download sounds and I guess I could live with that but not the performance slowdown on systems with little memmory or power.




On 7/3/2018 5:33 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
So are you saying then that in august when Firefox esr is officially Quantum based, the old extensions will work? I was under the impression that the whole ethos of quantum was to protect the rendering code and not allow addons that can interact in any way other than those already defined. This would men navigational sounds and many others would be suspended.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <@smeveriss>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2018 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] waterfox accessibility message


It will remain.

Nothing goes away, I had to get noscript back but to be honest nothing else.

Nothing will happen, waterfox is supposed to be using both classic and quantom interfaces.

So in short in theory at least you should be able to run both web and classic extentions easily enough.

Its in the future we aren't trading one codebase for another.

Thats why I keep waterfox round.




On 7/2/2018 8:14 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
So how can I stop this happening. I need navigational sounds to remain.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "The Wolf" <hank.smith966@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2018 10:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] waterfox accessibility message


Hello I downloaded the latest waterfox from the waterfox website

when I installed it and launched it it brings up a message that accessibility has ben parshally disabled do to compatibility with screen readers

1 how do I get access to that message to work with it?

2. what do I choose on this perticular message?

thanks

Hank


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Re: trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I wasn't given a choice as to how deep I wanted to go. All it said was "pick the uninstall mode" but nothing else. Maybe I'm not doing something right.


Rosemarie

On 7/2/2018 4:51 PM, Debra Gardner wrote:
when you first upen up the  program after installation, it will give you a list of programs on your computer that can be uninstalled. Pick the one you want  and go into your context menu  and pick uninstall.  It will then give you a choice of how deep an uninstall you want to go.


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From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 4:28 PM
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic

Thanks so much. I'll give it a try and let you know if it worked.




On 7/2/2018 2:26 PM, Debra Gardner wrote:
Here's something you might try.  It's called revo uninstaller. If you install this and it asks if you want to upgrade, say no because ifyou do, the upgrade isn't accessible.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/4o37ul

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 11:21 AM
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic

I think it's a 32 bit program.




On 7/1/2018 10:56 AM, Jackie wrote:
Rosemarie, how many bits the program itself is does not make a
difference. What's important is whether your version of *windows* is
32- or 64-bits.

On 7/1/18, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
Already tried that.




On 7/1/2018 12:42 AM, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:
Depending which version of windows try looking in control panel for
programs and features or if older os add/remove programs

That’s the proper way of doing uninstalls

Good luck

*From: *Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@...>
*Sent: *01 July 2018 07:17
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3
converter classic

Hi, everyone,

Can you recommend a good program for uninstalling the free youtube to

mp3 converter classic? I tried a program called special uninstaller but

that didn't help at all.

Thanks in advance.

Rosemarie








Re: trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Debra,


I think I was able to get rid of some of the files associated with that program. It takes forever to get rid of some stubborn programs.


Rosemarie

On 7/2/2018 2:26 PM, Debra Gardner wrote:
Here's something you might try.  It's called revo uninstaller. If you install this and it asks if you want to upgrade, say no because ifyou do, the upgrade isn't accessible.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/4o37ul

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 11:21 AM
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic

I think it's a 32 bit program.




On 7/1/2018 10:56 AM, Jackie wrote:
Rosemarie, how many bits the program itself is does not make a
difference. What's important is whether your version of *windows* is
32- or 64-bits.

On 7/1/18, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
Already tried that.




On 7/1/2018 12:42 AM, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:
Depending which version of windows try looking in control panel for
programs and features or if older os add/remove programs

That’s the proper way of doing uninstalls

Good luck

*From: *Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@...>
*Sent: *01 July 2018 07:17
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3
converter classic

Hi, everyone,

Can you recommend a good program for uninstalling the free youtube to

mp3 converter classic? I tried a program called special uninstaller but

that didn't help at all.

Thanks in advance.

Rosemarie






Re: trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic

Debra Gardner
 

when you first upen up the program after installation, it will give you a list of programs on your computer that can be uninstalled. Pick the one you want and go into your context menu and pick uninstall. It will then give you a choice of how deep an uninstall you want to go.


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 4:28 PM
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic

Thanks so much. I'll give it a try and let you know if it worked.




On 7/2/2018 2:26 PM, Debra Gardner wrote:
Here's something you might try. It's called revo uninstaller. If you install this and it asks if you want to upgrade, say no because ifyou do, the upgrade isn't accessible.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/4o37ul

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 11:21 AM
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic

I think it's a 32 bit program.




On 7/1/2018 10:56 AM, Jackie wrote:
Rosemarie, how many bits the program itself is does not make a
difference. What's important is whether your version of *windows* is
32- or 64-bits.

On 7/1/18, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
Already tried that.




On 7/1/2018 12:42 AM, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:
Depending which version of windows try looking in control panel for
programs and features or if older os add/remove programs

That’s the proper way of doing uninstalls

Good luck

*From: *Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@...>
*Sent: *01 July 2018 07:17
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3
converter classic

Hi, everyone,

Can you recommend a good program for uninstalling the free youtube to

mp3 converter classic? I tried a program called special uninstaller but

that didn't help at all.

Thanks in advance.

Rosemarie







Re: waterfox accessibility message

 

Well waterfox is supposed to use both api bases both classic and otherwise.

Waterfox is only loosly based off firefox anyway.

They keep saying things will change.

To be honest if all options worked as they used to and all the buttons and old menubars could come back somehow that would be fine, tthere is an addon for download sounds and I guess I could live with that but not the performance slowdown on systems with little memmory or power.

On 7/3/2018 5:33 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
So are you saying then that in august when Firefox esr is officially Quantum based, the old extensions will work? I was under the impression that the whole ethos of quantum was to protect the rendering code and  not allow addons that can interact in any way other than those  already defined. This would men navigational sounds and many others would be suspended.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <@smeveriss>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2018 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] waterfox accessibility message


It will remain.

Nothing goes away, I had to get noscript back but to be honest nothing else.

Nothing will happen, waterfox is supposed to be using both classic and quantom interfaces.

So in short in theory at least you should be able to run both web and classic extentions easily enough.

Its in the future we aren't trading one codebase for another.

Thats why I keep waterfox round.




On 7/2/2018 8:14 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
So how can I stop this happening. I need navigational sounds to remain.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "The Wolf" <hank.smith966@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2018 10:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] waterfox accessibility message


Hello I downloaded the latest waterfox from the waterfox website

when I installed it and launched it it brings up a message that accessibility has ben parshally disabled do to compatibility with screen readers

1 how do I get access to that message to work with it?

2. what do I choose on this perticular message?

thanks

Hank


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check out my song on youtube
https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y





.





Re: trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Thanks so much. I'll give it a try and let you know if it worked.

On 7/2/2018 2:26 PM, Debra Gardner wrote:
Here's something you might try.  It's called revo uninstaller. If you install this and it asks if you want to upgrade, say no because ifyou do, the upgrade isn't accessible.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/4o37ul

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 11:21 AM
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic

I think it's a 32 bit program.




On 7/1/2018 10:56 AM, Jackie wrote:
Rosemarie, how many bits the program itself is does not make a
difference. What's important is whether your version of *windows* is
32- or 64-bits.

On 7/1/18, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
Already tried that.




On 7/1/2018 12:42 AM, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:
Depending which version of windows try looking in control panel for
programs and features or if older os add/remove programs

That’s the proper way of doing uninstalls

Good luck

*From: *Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@...>
*Sent: *01 July 2018 07:17
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3
converter classic

Hi, everyone,

Can you recommend a good program for uninstalling the free youtube to

mp3 converter classic? I tried a program called special uninstaller but

that didn't help at all.

Thanks in advance.

Rosemarie






Re: trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic

Debra Gardner
 

Here's something you might try. It's called revo uninstaller. If you install this and it asks if you want to upgrade, say no because ifyou do, the upgrade isn't accessible.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/4o37ul

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 11:21 AM
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic

I think it's a 32 bit program.




On 7/1/2018 10:56 AM, Jackie wrote:
Rosemarie, how many bits the program itself is does not make a
difference. What's important is whether your version of *windows* is
32- or 64-bits.

On 7/1/18, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
Already tried that.




On 7/1/2018 12:42 AM, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:
Depending which version of windows try looking in control panel for
programs and features or if older os add/remove programs

That’s the proper way of doing uninstalls

Good luck

*From: *Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@...>
*Sent: *01 July 2018 07:17
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3
converter classic

Hi, everyone,

Can you recommend a good program for uninstalling the free youtube to

mp3 converter classic? I tried a program called special uninstaller but

that didn't help at all.

Thanks in advance.

Rosemarie





Re: making the menus in libre office talk

Kevin Cussick
 

from memory, if you install lo without a screen reader running it will not be accessible. if you install with screen reader running it switches all the accessible stuff on things might have changed. this was a few years ago when the Ia2 stuff was being ported over.

On 30/06/2018 21:10, Chris Mullins wrote:
Hi
Odd that it's just the menus. Is this a situation where Java RTE and Access bridge are required to obtain access to the menus?
Cheers
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 30 June 2018 18:11
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] making the menus in libre office talk
Hi, everyone,
I have a friend who just got a refurvished computer from Computers for
the Blind in Texas. She said they installed libre office on it but she
can't make the menus talk. Other than that, she said she can work with
the writer word processer and the spread sheet with no problem. Is there
a way to make the menus talk?
Thanks for your help in advance.
Rosemarie


Re: more on symbol pronounciation

 

It's also not entirely clear to me what the "level" and "preserve" settings mean and how they interact with each other and how order in the list might influence things as well.

Since the sentence ending period (dot) and exclamation point (bang) are noted as level all and preserve always, while further down we have the period character with dot (the pronunciation) with level some and preserve never and the exclamation point character with bang with level all and preserve never it's really unclear to me what one would have to do to get context specific pronunciation.

When you throw in decimal point, which shows no actual character, just the name decimal point, things become more unclear.

I generally use "bang" for the exclamation point only in the context of programming or when writing out a keystroke sequence that requires its use, but "exclamation point" when talking about it as a punctuation mark.

When it comes to the period character it's period as punctuation in written English or other natural language, dot in things like URLs or other classification systems, and point in numbers.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 


Re: more on symbol pronounciation

Tyler Spivey
 

Then change the other two.

On 7/2/2018 11:44 AM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

Running NVDA 2018.2.1 on win7, working fine. In symbols pronounciation
I changed the first two items sentence endings the dot and bang
changed them to period and exclaimation, seleced ok, saved
configuration, and restarted NVDA, this did not work.

Thanks.
Dave.



more on symbol pronounciation

David Mehler
 

Hello,

Running NVDA 2018.2.1 on win7, working fine. In symbols pronounciation
I changed the first two items sentence endings the dot and bang
changed them to period and exclaimation, seleced ok, saved
configuration, and restarted NVDA, this did not work.

Thanks.
Dave.


Re: waterfox accessibility message

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

So are you saying then that in august when Firefox esr is officially Quantum based, the old extensions will work? I was under the impression that the whole ethos of quantum was to protect the rendering code and not allow addons that can interact in any way other than those already defined. This would men navigational sounds and many others would be suspended.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <@smeveriss>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2018 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] waterfox accessibility message


It will remain.

Nothing goes away, I had to get noscript back but to be honest nothing else.

Nothing will happen, waterfox is supposed to be using both classic and quantom interfaces.

So in short in theory at least you should be able to run both web and classic extentions easily enough.

Its in the future we aren't trading one codebase for another.

Thats why I keep waterfox round.




On 7/2/2018 8:14 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
So how can I stop this happening. I need navigational sounds to remain.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "The Wolf" <hank.smith966@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2018 10:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] waterfox accessibility message


Hello I downloaded the latest waterfox from the waterfox website

when I installed it and launched it it brings up a message that accessibility has ben parshally disabled do to compatibility with screen readers

1 how do I get access to that message to work with it?

2. what do I choose on this perticular message?

thanks

Hank


--
check out my song on youtube
https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y





.


Re: trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I think it's a 32 bit program.

On 7/1/2018 10:56 AM, Jackie wrote:
Rosemarie, how many bits the program itself is does not make a
difference. What's important is whether your version of *windows* is
32- or 64-bits.

On 7/1/18, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
Already tried that.




On 7/1/2018 12:42 AM, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:
Depending which version of windows try looking in control panel for
programs and features or if older os add/remove programs

That’s the proper way of doing uninstalls

Good luck

*From: *Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@...>
*Sent: *01 July 2018 07:17
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3
converter classic

Hi, everyone,

Can you recommend a good program for uninstalling the free youtube to

mp3 converter classic? I tried a program called special uninstaller but

that didn't help at all.

Thanks in advance.

Rosemarie




Re: trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

It won't uninstall but I guess I'll just leave it on my computer.




On 7/1/2018 12:58 PM, Gene wrote:
What happens when you try to uninstall the program?  And another question, what does it matter if the program is uninstalled?  If the program sits there and does nothing, and if it isn't easy to uninstall, as long as it's a legitimate program, as this one is from what I read, and not malware, it makes no difference if it remains on the machine or not. 
 
Most programs don't take much room and this program can be presumed to be very small, so the amouht of disk space you lose is negligible and makes no practical difference.  So why bother?
 
A long time ago, when I used Windows 95, I found that uninstalling a certain demo removed my Windows 95 Help.  I ran a system restore which restored both the demo and the help.  I saw no reason to bother further and I wanted the help so I left the demo.  It sat there, not taking much room, and doing nothing.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2018 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic

Just tried the windows uninstaller and that didn't work either.




On 7/1/2018 2:13 AM, Gene wrote:
You said you tried a third party uninstaller.  You didn't say whether you had tried the Windows uninstaller.  Try it and see what happens if you didn't. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2018 1:17 AM
Subject: [nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic

Hi, everyone,


Can you recommend a good program for uninstalling the free youtube to
mp3 converter classic? I tried a program called special uninstaller but
that didn't help at all.


Thanks in advance.


Rosemarie








Re: trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I'm sorry but I think reformatting should be done only as a last resort. I don't know how to reformat a system and don't want to mess things up if I don't know what I'm doing.

On 7/2/2018 2:57 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Wouldn't trust restore points.

A reformat will be much better, unless that is you just installed the thing.

I had an issue with a system, still semi have in fact a restore point is good usually for 2-3 days but chances are the earliest points depending on system space will be gone, with the fact that with smaller capacity ssds they can't hold that many.

This system in fact could do with a full reformat, that would fix all my issues but there is a board issue, its to old to replace and its blown supplies and other things.

The data is backed up, it died for a bit, came back, but its still being used partly.

But it will probably be scrapped, if you have a point thats available, by all means use it.




On 7/2/2018 6:28 PM, Gene wrote:
If you have a restore point from before you installed the program, that is the next thing to try. System Restore, as do all operations of the type from other restoration programs, involve a small risk.  The risk is small, perhaps very small, but in conformance with my view that there is no point taking even a very small risk for no benefit, if it were me, I might well just leave the inactive program on the computer, for reasons I gave earlier.

From your past correspondence on other topics, it appears you are a
perfectionist and want the system to be perfect and not have any innert artifacts that cause no problems.  If you want to take a small or very small risk to achieve this perfectionistic goal, that's your decision.  But rather than spending time running installers that can't uninstall the problem, I think system restore is the next thing to try.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2018 1:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic


Hi, Chris,


I tried the instructions but nothing so-far has worked. I don't know
what the next step is unless I do a system restore.


Rosemarie




On 7/1/2018 2:42 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:
Hi Rose-Marie
These are some details I found on a software reference site. They refer to Windows 8.1, W7, Vista and XP installations but should be the same for W10.  They refer to the C:\Program Files folder but this would be C:\Program Files X86 if it was installed as a 32-bit program on a machine with a 64-bit OS. Note that the text references an uninstaller " C:\Program Files\Common Files\DVDVideoSoft\lib\Uninstall.exe", so if you can find this it may help.

Overview
Free YouTube to MP3 Converter Classic is a program developed by DVDVideoSoft. The most used version is 3.12.74.1224, with over 98% of all installations currently using this version. The main program executable is freeyoutubetomp3converterclassic.exe. The software installer includes 5 files and is usually about 88.17 MB (92,448,528 bytes). In comparison to the total number of users, most PCs are running the OS Windows 8 as well as Windows 7 (SP1). While about 35% of users of Free YouTube to MP3 Converter Classic come from Germany, it is also popular in the United States and Austria.
   Program details
Program details
URL: dvdvideosoft.zendesk.com
Help link: www.dvdvideosoft.com/faq.htm
Installation folder: C:\Program Files\DVDVideoSoft\
Uninstaller: C:\Program Files\Common Files\DVDVideoSoft\lib\Uninstall.exe /app FreeYouTubeToMP3ConverterClassic
Estimated size: 88.17 MB
   Program files
Files installed by Free YouTube to MP3 Converter Classic
Program executable:
freeyoutubetomp3converterclassic.exe
Path:
C:\Program Files\dvdvideosoft\free youtube to mp3 converter classic\freeyoutubetomp3converterclassic.exe
MD5:
57a0a63d55047bdd23996b180e71230a
Additional files:
unins000.exe - Setup/Uninstall
unins001.exe
   How do I remove Free YouTube to MP3 Converter Classic?
You can uninstall Free YouTube to MP3 Converter Classic from your computer by using the Add/Remove Program feature in the Window's Control Panel.
. On the Start menu (for Windows 8, right-click the screen's bottom-left corner), click Control Panel, and then, under Programs, do one of the following:
Windows Vista/7/8: Click Uninstall a Program.
Windows XP: Click Add or Remove Programs.
2. When you find the program Free YouTube to MP3 Converter Classic, click it, and then do one of the following:
Windows Vista/7/8: Click Uninstall.
Windows XP: Click the Remove or Change/Remove tab (to the right of the program).
3. Follow the prompts. A progress bar shows you how long it will take to remove Free YouTube to MP3 Converter Classic.
   Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 1 July 2018 18:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic

I think it's a 32 bit program.




On 7/1/2018 1:50 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Is it a 64 bit or 32 bit program?
Is it a real program or is it something within a browser as an add on.
I'm not familiar with this software.
My feelings are that browsers can uninstall add ons  but if its a 32
bit piece of software then good old old version revo is your friend,
as it can uninstall almost anything. However for 64 bit programs,you
need the bulk crap uninstaller which is actually more difficult to use.
This is of course assuming its got a real uninstaller somewhere.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemarie Chavarria"
<knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2018 7:17 AM
Subject: [nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter
classic


Hi, everyone,


Can you recommend a good program for uninstalling the free youtube to
mp3 converter classic? I tried a program called special uninstaller
but that didn't help at all.


Thanks in advance.


Rosemarie














Re: trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Gene,


This is great advice. I think reformatting probably should be done as a last resort and only if you know what you're doing.


Rosemarie




On 7/2/2018 5:11 AM, Gene wrote:
I'm sorry to be blunt but that is very bad advice, to reformat instead of trying system restore.  I've used System restore for years.  It has worked well, except for one time when I lost files, which I put back with a backup.  They were information files of some sort, music, documents, I don't recall now.  There is always a risk with such programs but it is either small or very small.  I would say very small, but I don't want to mislead people and I don't know the statistics.  But if you ask people who run it, and who run it properly, you may well find from the answers of a good sample, that the risk is very small.  It is widely used and usually works well.  You will see it recommended on computer advisor sites with good reputations. 
 
If you don't know the effects of running restore points, you may have problems, such as if you make changes to settings in Windows or install programs or change settings in programs and then run a restore point, you may lose them.   I'll give an example to make this clear.
 
If you install program A, then you install program B and make changes to other programs and Windows settings, if you run the System Restore point that was made immediately before program A was installed, program B will disappear and the changes you made to other things will usually revert to what they were before.  Back up all files you don't want to lose, documents, music, etc. before running a restore point.
 
But urging people to reformat, when most people don't keep images of their systems and will have to reinstall everything, as if it were a new computer is absurd.  And even for people who do keep images, reformatting and restoring from an image takes longer than running a restore point.
 
And, in this case, if someone doesn't want to run a restore point because they are afraid of doing so, reformatting is a very very bad solution to the problem if you don't have system images.  And if you do, I consider it to be a waste of time.  This program is doing nothing, just sitting there, taking an insignificant amount of disk space.  Why are you advocating reformatting for a problem that doesn't exist?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2018 4:57 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic

Wouldn't trust restore points.

A reformat will be much better, unless that is you just installed the thing.

I had an issue with a system, still semi have in fact a restore point is
good usually for 2-3 days but chances are the earliest points depending
on system space will be gone, with the fact that with smaller capacity
ssds they can't hold that many.

This system in fact could do with a full reformat, that would fix all my
issues but there is a board issue, its to old to replace and its blown
supplies and other things.

The data is backed up, it died for a bit, came back, but its still being
used partly.

But it will probably be scrapped, if you have a point thats available,
by all means use it.




On 7/2/2018 6:28 PM, Gene wrote:
> If you have a restore point from before you installed the program, that is the next thing to try.  System Restore, as do all operations of the type from other restoration programs, involve a small risk.  The risk is small, perhaps very small, but in conformance with my view that there is no point taking even a very small risk for no benefit, if it were me, I might well just leave the inactive program on the computer, for reasons I gave earlier.
>
> >From your past correspondence on other topics, it appears you are a perfectionist and want the system to be perfect and not have any innert artifacts that cause no problems.  If you want to take a small or very small risk to achieve this perfectionistic goal, that's your decision.  But rather than spending time running installers that can't uninstall the problem, I think system restore is the next thing to try.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Rosemarie Chavarria
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2018 1:03 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic
>
>
> Hi, Chris,
>
>
> I tried the instructions but nothing so-far has worked. I don't know
> what the next step is unless I do a system restore.
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
>
>
> On 7/1/2018 2:42 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:
>> Hi Rose-Marie
>> These are some details I found on a software reference site.  They refer to Windows 8.1, W7, Vista and XP installations but should be the same for W10.  They refer to the C:\Program Files folder but this would be C:\Program Files X86 if it was installed as a 32-bit program on a machine with a 64-bit OS.  Note that the text references an uninstaller " C:\Program Files\Common Files\DVDVideoSoft\lib\Uninstall.exe", so if you can find this it may help.
>>
>> Overview
>> Free YouTube to MP3 Converter Classic is a program developed by DVDVideoSoft. The most used version is 3.12.74.1224, with over 98% of all installations currently using this version. The main program executable is freeyoutubetomp3converterclassic.exe. The software installer includes 5 files and is usually about 88.17 MB (92,448,528 bytes). In comparison to the total number of users, most PCs are running the OS Windows 8 as well as Windows 7 (SP1). While about 35% of users of Free YouTube to MP3 Converter Classic come from Germany, it is also popular in the United States and Austria.
>>   
>> Program details
>> Program details
>> URL: dvdvideosoft.zendesk.com
>> Help link: www.dvdvideosoft.com/faq.htm
>> Installation folder: C:\Program Files\DVDVideoSoft\
>> Uninstaller: C:\Program Files\Common Files\DVDVideoSoft\lib\Uninstall.exe /app FreeYouTubeToMP3ConverterClassic
>> Estimated size: 88.17 MB
>>   
>> Program files
>> Files installed by Free YouTube to MP3 Converter Classic
>> Program executable:
>> freeyoutubetomp3converterclassic.exe
>> Path:
>> C:\Program Files\dvdvideosoft\free youtube to mp3 converter classic\freeyoutubetomp3converterclassic.exe
>> MD5:
>> 57a0a63d55047bdd23996b180e71230a
>> Additional files:
>> unins000.exe - Setup/Uninstall
>> unins001.exe
>>   
>> How do I remove Free YouTube to MP3 Converter Classic?
>> You can uninstall Free YouTube to MP3 Converter Classic from your computer by using the Add/Remove Program feature in the Window's Control Panel.
>> . On the Start menu (for Windows 8, right-click the screen's bottom-left corner), click Control Panel, and then, under Programs, do one of the following:
>> Windows Vista/7/8: Click Uninstall a Program.
>> Windows XP: Click Add or Remove Programs.
>> 2. When you find the program Free YouTube to MP3 Converter Classic, click it, and then do one of the following:
>> Windows Vista/7/8: Click Uninstall.
>> Windows XP: Click the Remove or Change/Remove tab (to the right of the program).
>> 3. Follow the prompts. A progress bar shows you how long it will take to remove Free YouTube to MP3 Converter Classic.
>>   
>> Cheers
>> Chris
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
>> Sent: 1 July 2018 18:28
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic
>>
>> I think it's a 32 bit program.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/1/2018 1:50 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
>>> Is it a 64 bit or 32 bit program?
>>> Is it a real program or is it something within a browser as an add on.
>>> I'm not familiar with this software.
>>> My feelings are that browsers can uninstall add ons  but if its a 32
>>> bit piece of software then good old old version revo is your friend,
>>> as it can uninstall almost anything. However for 64 bit programs,you
>>> need the bulk crap uninstaller which is actually more difficult to use.
>>> This is of course assuming its got a real uninstaller somewhere.
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> bglists@...
>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>> in the display name field.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemarie Chavarria"
>>> <knitqueen2007@...>
>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2018 7:17 AM
>>> Subject: [nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter
>>> classic
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi, everyone,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can you recommend a good program for uninstalling the free youtube to
>>>> mp3 converter classic? I tried a program called special uninstaller
>>>> but that didn't help at all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rosemarie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>





nvda fixed

Gary Metzler
 

Hi All,

 

I just want to let you know I got nvda loaded on my new profile.  Thanks to those who helped with this.

 

Regards, Gary kn4ox

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Re: nvda on a usb drive

Gary Metzler
 

Hi Chris,

I got my portable nvda folder onto a usb drive. What I am now trying to do is put a permanent copy onto my new profile. When I run nvda and go to tools and go to install windows defender blocks the changes. I am going to call ms and see if they can help. Thanks for the batch file idea.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 7:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda on a usb drive

Hi Gary
I am struggling to understand your set-up here. You say you have a portable copy on the C: drive and you want a copy on your USB drive. Can you not just copy the C: drive folder containing the portable copy to the USB drive?

When I use a USB portable copy of NVDA on a USB drive, I include a batch file in the root of the USB drive called RunNVDA.bat. To launch the USB copy, I can then press windows+r to open the run dialog then type ?:\RunNVDA and press enter. ? being the drive letter assigned to the USB drive. To restart NVDA just re-run the batch file as above.

To create the batch file, copy and paste the following 5 lines into a Notepad file and save it as RunNVDA.bat . If you need to edit the .bat file once you have created it, select it in file explorer, press the applications key, arrow down to "edit" and press enter.

@echo off
rem Place this batch file in the root of your USB drive set NP=NVDAPort rem The command below runs the NVDA portable copy in the NP folder defined above start %~dp0%NP%\nvda_slave.exe launchNVDA -r

Cheers
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Metzler
Sent: 2 July 2018 10:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda on a usb drive

Hi John,

I am using the latest nvda with my portable copy. Thanks for getting back to me.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2018 9:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda on a usb drive

Somebody else will have to help with this. Defender has some new protection mode or something. You can turn it off but I thought the latest version of NVDA, or maybe the one before that, could install even if the protection was on. Ah, here's what I was thinking of, from
2018.1: "• In Windows 10 Fall Creaters Update, NVDA no longer fails to update when Controlled Folder Access is enabled from Windows Defender Security Center." Are you using an older version of NVDA? If so you might want to update your portable copy, if you can.


On 7/1/2018 19:12, Gary Metzler wrote:
Hi John,

Thanks for your help.
I am having an issue installing nvda on my new profile. I switch to
the new profile and go to my portable folder and goto nvda. When it
comes up I go to tools and go to install. It starts fine but, I get a
windows defender notice that it blocked changes. I then get an error
message that nvda failed. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
Thanks,

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John
Isige
Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2018 12:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda on a usb drive

It would be drive:\nvdaport\nvda to run your portable copy. I don't
know what drive letter your USB drive will be assigned though, you'll
have to figure that out yourself. Using narrator should work just
fine, but in case you know the letter the drive gets assigned, you can
run it directly. If it's still on your c: drive, you can also run it
directly from there, c:\nvdaport\nvda


On 7/1/2018 4:45, Gary Metzler wrote:
Hi Brian,

Thanks, I will give that a try.

-----Original Message-----
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Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2018 5:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda on a usb drive

Well, as its windows 10, use narrator to go to the thumb drive and
open it, go to the nvda folder and open it then find nvda.exe and run
it. After that you just need the nvda menu and tools etc as
previously described. Of course if you have UAC on you may get an
invisible window for that as you presumably have seen before. I'm
assuming this is an admin account you are installing into.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Metzler" <gmtravel@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2018 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda on a usb drive


Hi John,

What I need to know is what is the command line to launch nvda from
my usb drive? Thanks for your help.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John
Isige
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 10:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda on a usb drive

If I understand what you're talking about:


1. Login to your new profile.


2. Run NVDA from the USB drive.


3. Go to the NVDA menu, tools, and pick install, or whatever it's
called. I can't tell you because I'm running an installed copy.
Install, tell it to copy your addons or whatever you need.


4. You're done, enjoy NVDA.


On 6/30/2018 19:39, Gary Metzler wrote:
Hi All,

I am using the latest windows and nvda. I had a new profile created
by ms and I created a portable copy on my c drive. I put the
nvdaport folder on a usb drive I want to put nvda on the new
profile. How would I go about this? Thanks for any help.

Regards, Gary kn4ox

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