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Re: books about NVDA on the access technology institute website.

Monte Single
 

The books on n v d a found on the;

Nvaccess.ort

Website are about one third the cost of those found on the

Blindtraining.com

Website.

Go to;

Nvaccess.ort/store and should find what you want.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sue J. Ward
Sent: November-26-18 3:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] books about NVDA on the access technology institute website.

Hello. I would like to buy the two books about NVDA but they are kind of pricey maybe email them to me if you can on the blind.training or it is called access technology institute website. One is about the NVDA screen reader which goes for 95 dollars that mainly talks about the entire screen reader guess from what I have read it walks you through everything the only thing I don't know when it was written. Does any one have a copy that could email it to me for free? The other one is about windows 10 using nvda it sounds like it is a good book to get it talks about the entire system but what I don't get is when you first get a new computer that has windows 10 it does not have word installed and in the book it mentions and walks you through windows 10 and one of the lessons is managing and saving documents mentions word plus there are several lessons about microsoft word. It is good but I just want a book mainly about windows 10 minus the stuff about word. The book does cost around
150 dollars it sounds like a good resource was wondering has anyone bought the books from the website and how good are they? I would also like a copy of the book as well if anyone has that could they email that to me? The books are an immersion in to NVDA

The other one is an immersion in to windows 10 with NVDA. Thank you.
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Re: ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions

John Isige
 

Ah. I see that didn't work. Well, let me try just pasting the text in then.


#Posted by Marshall Flax.
# Converted from http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~reng/jaws-ipa.html


æ    Ash
ç    C Cedilla
ð    Edh
ø    Slashed O
ħ    Crossed H
ŋ    Eng
œ    O E Digraph
ǀ    Pipe
ǁ    Double Pipe
ǂ    Double Barred Pipe
ǃ    Exclamation Point
ɐ    Turned A
ɑ    Script A
ɒ    Turned Script A
ɓ    Hooktop B
ɔ    Open O
ɕ    Curly Tail C
ɖ    Right Tail D
ɗ    Hooktop D
ɘ    Reversed E
ə    Schwa
ɚ    Schwa With Hook
ɛ    Epsilon
ɜ    Reversed Epsilon
ɞ    Closed Reversed Epsilon
ɟ    Barred Dotless J
ɠ    Hooktop G
ɡ    Lowercase Script G
ɢ    Small Capital G
ɣ    Gamma
ɤ    Ram'S Horns
ɥ    Turned H
ɦ    Hooktop H
ɧ    Hooked Heng
ɨ    Barred I
ɪ    Small Capital I
ɫ    Lowercase L With Tilde
ɬ    Belted L
ɭ    Right Tail L
ɮ    L Yogh Digraph
ɯ    Turned M
ɰ    Turned M, Right Leg
ɱ    Left Tail M
ɲ    Left Tail N
ɳ    Right Tail N
ɴ    Small Capital N
ɵ    Barred O
ɶ    Small Capital O E Digraph
ɸ    Phi
ɹ    Turned R
ɺ    Turned Long Leg R
ɻ    Turned R, Right Tail
ɽ    Right Tail R
ɾ    Fish Hook R
ʀ    Small Capital R
ʁ    Inverted Small Capital R
ʂ    Right Tail S
ʃ    Esh
ʄ    Hooktop Barred Dotless J
ʈ    Right Tail T
ʉ    Barred U
ʊ    Upsilon
ʋ    Script V
ʌ    Turned V
ʍ    Turned W
ʎ    Turned Y
ʏ    Small Capital Y
ʐ    Right Tail Z
ʑ    Curly Tail Z
ʒ    Yogh
ʔ    Glottal Stop
ʕ    Reversed Glottal Stop
ʘ    Bull'S Eye
ʙ    Small Capital B
ʛ    Hooktop Small Capital G
ʜ    Small Capital H
ʝ    Curly Tail J
ʟ    Small Capital L
ʡ    Barred Glottal Stop
ʢ    Barred Reversed Glottal Stop
ʣ    D Z Digraph
ʤ    D Yogh Digraph
ʥ    D Curly Tail Z Digraph
ʦ    T S Digraph
ʧ    T Esh Digraph
ʨ    T Curly Tail C Digraph
ʰ    Superscript H
ʲ    Superscript J
ʷ    Superscript W
ʼ    Apostrophe
ˈ    Vertical Stroke Superior
ˌ    Vertical Stroke Inferior
ː    Length Mark
ˑ    Half Length Mark
˞    Right Hook
ˠ    Superscript Gamma
ˡ    Superscript L
ˤ    Superscript Reversed Glottal Stop
˥    Extra High Tone Bar
˦    High Tone Bar
˧    Mid Tone Bar
˨    Low Tone Bar
˩    Extra Low Tone Bar
̀    Grave Accent Above
́    Acute Accent Above
̂    Circumflex Above
̃    Tilde Above
̄    Macron Above
̆    Breve Above
̈    Umlaut Above
̊    Ring Above
̋    Double Acute Accent Above
̌    Wedge Above
̏    Double Grave Accent Above
̘    Advancing Sign Below
̙    Retracting Sign Below
̚    Corner Above
̜    Left Half Ring Below
̝    Raising Sign Below
̞    Lowering Sign Below
̟    Plus Below
̠    Minus Below
̤    Umlaut Below
̥    Ring Below
̩    Vertical Line Below
̪    Bridge Below
̬    Wedge Below
̯    Arch Below
̰    Tilde Below
̴    Superimposed Tilde
̹    Right Half Ring Below
̺    Inverted Bridge Below
̻    Square Below
̼    Seagull Below
̽    Over Cross Above
β    Beta
θ    Theta
χ    Chi
‖    Double Vertical Line
‿    Bottom Tie Bar
ⁿ    Superscript N
↑    Up Arrow
→    Rightward Arrow
↓    Down Arrow
↗    Upward Diagonal Arrow
↘    Downward Diagonal Arrow
͡    Top Tie Bar
    Macron Acute Above
    Grave Macron Above
    Grave Acute Grave Above


Re: ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions

John Isige
 

The hopefully attached IPA dictionary was posted to this list quite a while ago. I don't think I ever got it to load, but maybe somebody can take a look at it and see if it works.


Re: help items missing

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Yes, I can open those files from the documentation/en/  directory under c:/progam files (x86)/nvda/documentation/en/

What would you recommend if it is, indeed, a problem ofile association?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 10:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing

 

Can you open those files from the documentation/en directory?  Windows does differentiate between local html files and online files (using the http protocol), so it could still be the file association for opening local html files (which would also explain why reinstalling NVDA doesn't fix it, since we don't try to set that association).

 

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 3:56 AM Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

Brian,

Thanks for keeping with this issue.
I found that the files are indeed present under various language folders within the NVDA directory on the C: drive. They do exist in the "en" folder which is the  folder I would expect NVDA to call when the language setting is set to "English".

I found that I had not actually selected English in the General settings of NVDA. I corrected this so that NVDA now expects English as the default language but still the three files are not being picked up by the Help menu in NVDA.


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...


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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 9:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing

Well the only way I can make such files not display is to break the browsers linking, ie the browser gets launched but the file its asked to open is either corrupted in the command or missing so you get a blank browser window.
 I've tried several  portable and installed copies and cannot duplicate the effect here on windows 7 , so maybe something else broke. However if you can open some html files etc then it seems odd that the problem is so selective unless its a llanguage of the files or some other obscure issue where the characters are not correct to match the file names. Have you searched for the files manually on the machine?
 Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "'Quentin Christensen'" <quentin@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing


Brian,

Logically, I would have agreed with you. But, I did remove NVDA completely
and then installed a fresh download of the whole NVDA package, installed it
and still the three files are missing!


Listed but failing to open (presumed Missing!):
* NVDA User Guide
* Commands quick Reference
* What's New

Present and functioning:
* NVDA Web Site
* Licence
* Contributors
* Welcome Dialog
* Check for Update
* About


Could someone tell me what the program file names for the three missing
items are? I could then check the NVDA folder and see if they are actually
present.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...


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Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing

Have you tried a reinstall but keeping the settings? If its just files that
are missing and you know they were there in the first place, they have to be
in the installer, surely?
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cearbhall O'Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing


Hi,



I was going to investigate the query on using the User manual when I
discovered that the User Manual command reference and what’s new items are
missing from my NVDA menu!

All the other items are present in the help menu.

I am using NVDA 2018.3.2 in Windows 10.



Any suggestions as to how to recover?



All the best,



Cearbhall



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Re: help items missing

Quentin Christensen
 

Can you open those files from the documentation/en directory?  Windows does differentiate between local html files and online files (using the http protocol), so it could still be the file association for opening local html files (which would also explain why reinstalling NVDA doesn't fix it, since we don't try to set that association).


On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 3:56 AM Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:
Brian,

Thanks for keeping with this issue.
I found that the files are indeed present under various language folders within the NVDA directory on the C: drive. They do exist in the "en" folder which is the  folder I would expect NVDA to call when the language setting is set to "English".

I found that I had not actually selected English in the General settings of NVDA. I corrected this so that NVDA now expects English as the default language but still the three files are not being picked up by the Help menu in NVDA.


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 9:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing

Well the only way I can make such files not display is to break the browsers linking, ie the browser gets launched but the file its asked to open is either corrupted in the command or missing so you get a blank browser window.
 I've tried several  portable and installed copies and cannot duplicate the effect here on windows 7 , so maybe something else broke. However if you can open some html files etc then it seems odd that the problem is so selective unless its a llanguage of the files or some other obscure issue where the characters are not correct to match the file names. Have you searched for the files manually on the machine?
 Brian

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Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing


Brian,

Logically, I would have agreed with you. But, I did remove NVDA completely
and then installed a fresh download of the whole NVDA package, installed it
and still the three files are missing!


Listed but failing to open (presumed Missing!):
* NVDA User Guide
* Commands quick Reference
* What's New

Present and functioning:
* NVDA Web Site
* Licence
* Contributors
* Welcome Dialog
* Check for Update
* About


Could someone tell me what the program file names for the three missing
items are? I could then check the NVDA folder and see if they are actually
present.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian's Mail
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Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing

Have you tried a reinstall but keeping the settings? If its just files that
are missing and you know they were there in the first place, they have to be
in the installer, surely?
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cearbhall O'Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing


Hi,



I was going to investigate the query on using the User manual when I
discovered that the User Manual command reference and what’s new items are
missing from my NVDA menu!

All the other items are present in the help menu.

I am using NVDA 2018.3.2 in Windows 10.



Any suggestions as to how to recover?



All the best,



Cearbhall



m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...























--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions

Sarah k Alawami
 

I read the braille version actually for my singing class. I didn't get it all, my instructor gave it to me which was cool. of him. We also worked on ways I could write it until I got my keyboard to work.

On 26 Nov 2018, at 13:36, Cohn, Jonathan wrote:

Well, I have seen no resources for NVDA, but a professor at Rice University has worked extensively on a Braille version of IPA and has also written a guide to getting IPA to work with JAWS.

A good starting point is from the Braille Monitor at:
https://nfb.org/images/nfb/publications/bm/bm13/bm1302/bm130211.htm

I expect the instructions for JAWS might be easily modified to work with NVDA but I have no idea how the UNICODE character maps for NVDA are defined.

The article also mentions that Duxbury can translate IPA Unicode into Braille but no mention of lib-louis.


Best Wishes,

Jonathan


On 11/26/18, 12:45 AM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of enes sarıbaş" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of enes.saribas@gmail.com> wrote:

hi,

So I am doing my masters in linguistics, and have a writing assignment
about a topic in morphology. The problem is, the morphemes are
transcribed in the international phonetic alphabet, and bracketed and
for this reason nvda will not read them correctly. Has anyone else here
done linguistics, and if so how did you solve this problem? I am afraid
of failing the assignment not because of a lack of efort, but because I
can't access the matterial correctly. Would a braille display help with
this?









Re: ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions

Sarah k Alawami
 

I took it for my singing class. It really does help with foreign languages or people who not speak. It is an amazing language and I hope to one day continue my studies in IPA

On 26 Nov 2018, at 11:16, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

So the concept is then, trying to put sounds into a writable form for a person who cannot see it in the first place. This sounds a bit like some kind comedy sketch from an old goon show.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions


On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:


somethingn don't read well, if at all. I wish you luck in your IPA class.
And it's not really intended to be read, in the conventional sense of the word. It's the graphical representation of a sound sequence as close to "literally" as you can get it. When you "read" something in IPA you're not conventionally reading it like text but creating a sound stream of phonemes based on their IPA symbols. It's certainly nothing like reading any natural language that has a written form (sign language being one of the natural languages that has no written form, and there are others).

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Re: books about NVDA on the access technology institute website.

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Not sure if you are aware but nvaccess sells some books. They vary in price depending wht format you get. 2 of them are one is for excel and the other for word and there is one for the screen reader. They can be found at https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

I know that is probably not answering your other question on the other site but thought you might not know of these resources.


I do also have written and audio tutorials on my website for nvda and there is a page where i put together some windows 10 tutorials on stuff that i changed to suit my needs that other people would probably change to 2.


The website can be found at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

Gene nz

 

On 27/11/2018 10:52 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
 Hello. I would like to buy the two books about NVDA but they are kind of pricey maybe email them to me if you can on the blind.training or it is called access technology institute website. One is about the NVDA screen reader which goes for 95 dollars that mainly talks about the entire screen reader guess from what I have read it walks you through everything the only thing I don't know when it was written. Does any one have a copy that could email it to me for free? The other one is about windows 10 using nvda it sounds like it is a good book to get it talks about the entire system but what I don't get is when you first get a new computer that has windows 10 it does not have word installed and in the book it mentions and walks you through windows 10 and one of the lessons is managing and saving documents mentions word plus there are several lessons about microsoft word. It is good but I just want a book mainly about windows 10 minus the stuff about word. The book does cost around 150 dollars it sounds like a good resource was wondering has anyone bought the books from the website and how good are they? I would also like a copy of the book as well if anyone has that could they email that to me? The books are an immersion in to NVDA

 The other one is an immersion  in to windows 10 with NVDA. Thank you.
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books about NVDA on the access technology institute website.

Sue J. Ward
 

Hello. I would like to buy the two books about NVDA but they are kind of pricey maybe email them to me if you can on the blind.training or it is called access technology institute website. One is about the NVDA screen reader which goes for 95 dollars that mainly talks about the entire screen reader guess from what I have read it walks you through everything the only thing I don't know when it was written. Does any one have a copy that could email it to me for free? The other one is about windows 10 using nvda it sounds like it is a good book to get it talks about the entire system but what I don't get is when you first get a new computer that has windows 10 it does not have word installed and in the book it mentions and walks you through windows 10 and one of the lessons is managing and saving documents mentions word plus there are several lessons about microsoft word. It is good but I just want a book mainly about windows 10 minus the stuff about word. The book does cost around 150 dollars it sounds like a good resource was wondering has anyone bought the books from the website and how good are they? I would also like a copy of the book as well if anyone has that could they email that to me? The books are an immersion in to NVDA

The other one is an immersion in to windows 10 with NVDA. Thank you.
____________________________________________________________
How CBD Oil “Healed Her Pain” When Nothing Else Helped
CDX Labs
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Re: A couple of small annoyances.

Jonathan COHN
 

In terms of your Microsoft Office issue, it sounds like you need to adjust Microsoft Office startup. In newer versions of Microsoft Offic,e a panel comes up with recent files and templates, with the assumption that you probably want to work on something you recently worked on, and will find it in that panel. There is a setting available to have the program just open a new document when opened directly instead of via an associated file.
Let me know if you have trouble finding the settings, though I am running a slightly older version of Word.


Re: accessible drive partition resizing

Kevin Cussick
 

thanks mate, Brian's post got it for me but thanks anyway.

On 26/11/2018 00:02, seb naudet wrote:
sorry for the dead link
  below a dropbox link with the free and last version i have.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yqwpon6sdeobnaz/AADeHSkTT7DZJoSXIoT4xbzaa?dl=0
Le 25/11/2018 à 23:00, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io a écrit :

I tried to download the free version of this software and get this
text below.

Not Found
The requested URL /PGFreeSetup.exe was not found on this server.

On 25/11/2018 10:44, seb naudet wrote:
     Hello,

partitionGuru is fully accessible and has a free version

https://www.partitionguru.com/download.php


     seb



Le 25/11/2018 à 03:12, Richard Kuzma via Groups.Io a écrit :
Hello everyone,
Does anyone know of any partition management software that allows for
resizing of a drive partition without destroying the data?
I use image for windows to image my hard drive and that works great
for that but does not have an option for resizing the partition.
Thanks guys,
Rich







.


Re: ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions

Jonathan COHN
 

Well, I have seen no resources for NVDA, but a professor at Rice University has worked extensively on a Braille version of IPA and has also written a guide to getting IPA to work with JAWS.

A good starting point is from the Braille Monitor at:
https://nfb.org/images/nfb/publications/bm/bm13/bm1302/bm130211.htm

I expect the instructions for JAWS might be easily modified to work with NVDA but I have no idea how the UNICODE character maps for NVDA are defined.

The article also mentions that Duxbury can translate IPA Unicode into Braille but no mention of lib-louis.


Best Wishes,

Jonathan


On 11/26/18, 12:45 AM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of enes sarıbaş" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of enes.saribas@gmail.com> wrote:

hi,

So I am doing my masters in linguistics, and have a writing assignment
about a topic in morphology. The problem is, the morphemes are
transcribed in the international phonetic alphabet, and bracketed and
for this reason nvda will not read them correctly. Has anyone else here
done linguistics, and if so how did you solve this problem? I am afraid
of failing the assignment not because of a lack of efort, but because I
can't access the matterial correctly. Would a braille display help with
this?


Re: ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions

enes sarıbaş
 

hi Brian,

This is for a morphology essay, and I am trying to find another Ph.D student to go over the examples with me, as many of them are written in IPA, and bracketed in foreign languages. I am trying to understand the matterial as best as I can without the examples.


On 11/26/2018 3:53 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
enes,

         What font are they using for the IPA?  There was a recent discussion of this in the JAWS group, Jaws and International Phonetic Alphabet.

          There are a limited number of IPA fonts that have the capability of being read character-by-character, which is what would be needed here.  It should be up to the instructor, to make sure that material is supplied in accessible format.  If the material is really, really extensive I have to say that it is sometimes easier to have a human reader, but not always.  It's always messy with the IPA since the character names are long and, if you get into diacritics, it gets even messier.

--

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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 



Re: whatsapp desktop help

Adel Spence
 

can that whatsup work on windows7?

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] whatsapp desktop help

Every time I try pressing any buttons it just jumps me straight into the edit field. Any way of stopping this?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: 26 November 2018 16:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] whatsapp desktop help

 

Yes it's possible.
Find the button after the edit box, press enter on it, record your message then press enter again.

 


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Re: ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions

enes sarıbaş
 

hi,

There is the international phonetic alphabet, in which each letter corresponds to a sound in human language. The problem is, NVDA will not pronounce the letters correctly, moreover, I do not know what letter each of them stand for because of this. NVDA will usually read them with wierd and unusual names, or just say symbol 3b32C or something similar and skip over them.

On 11/26/2018 10:18 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Can you describe in detail what is supposed to be there and what you hear nvda saying? It may well be that some clever person here can get regular Expressions to rescue the situation. I don't know but your message does not actually tell us what the problem actually is. I assume that using all for the punctuation level does not resolve the problem for you?
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----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 5:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions


hi,

So I am doing my masters in linguistics, and have a writing assignment about a topic in morphology. The problem is, the morphemes are transcribed in the international phonetic alphabet, and bracketed and for this reason nvda will not read them correctly. Has anyone else here done linguistics, and if so how did you solve this problem? I am afraid of failing the assignment not because of a lack of efort, but because I can't access the matterial correctly. Would a braille display help with this?






Re: A couple of small annoyances.

MAX <max@...>
 

Thank you.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 1:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

This page has a lot of synthesizers listed.  The ones you pay for usually have demos.

 

If you are interested in Eloquence, important information is not on the page so ask here.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 1:08 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

I’m sorry for using so much bandwidth.  I think I have tamed this windows machine and have established chrome as my default browser.  The nvda help files work fine when used with chrome.  I don’t even have to move from the bullet to the text to make the link work.  I gather from the conversation that many other voice synthesizers  will work with nvda.  Is there a website that lists them.  It would be nice if they had a try before you buy option.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

I don't use Windows 10 which it appears you are.  Others can explain the procedure. 

 

As far as source is concerned, try sorce, with a c, though I doubt that will work.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

Source seems to be the only word of that general pronunciation that it messed up.  It does alright with horse.  As my last message I found that edge is still my default browser.  Short between the head sets.  Chrome has a big button labeled make this your default browser but Microsoft must have written an override.  How do I make chrome the default browser?

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

Screen-reader designers shouldn't make editorial decisions about what a screen-reader reads that a program displays.  Unless this content isn't seen by sighted people, Windows should read it. 

 

The ispronounciation of source is the result of the synthesizer you are using and not NVDA.  Are you saying it mispronounces that sound in general or just in the word source?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:07 PM

To: NVDA

Subject: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

I recognize that these are small things that the developers may not think
are important enough to fix.  Here goes anyway.  When I am opening a file
in word I press control O and then tab twice.  Nvda says recently opened
files.  You haven't opened any files recently.  This was not unexpected the
first time I opened a file after installing nvda.  However, I use word
every day and the message continues.  At first it was a laugh, then a smile
and now it's I wish it wouldn't do that.  Another thing is the
pronunciation   of s o u r c e.  In the united states source rhymes with
horse not with farce as nvda pronounces it.  I have tried to fix it in the
dictionary but when I replace the h in horse with an s it goes back to the
rhyme with farce.   Well, I guess that's just the way it is.


73 (Regards).

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I've Never Lost the Wonder.

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Re: A couple of small annoyances.

MAX <max@...>
 

Yes, I found that out.  That’s how I was able to fix it.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 1:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

There is a specific Windows 10 way to make programs the default.  Someone will describe it.  Some or many programs can't be made the default by using the make default option in the programs themselves but they can be using the Windows 10 method.

 

Edge does certain very specific things but in general, the browser you make default will open when expected.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 1:22 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

I think, generally in windows 10 there are some places where Edge is used no
matter what you do, but I believe that you need to actually do as you always
could and set up default programs for certain file types, but the old way of
letting a browser do it on its own never did work in 10, at least for me, I
always had to go to the  list of  file types and  select a default program
if it was set as a Microsoft one. another reason I prefer windows 7.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "MAX" <max@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.


> Source seems to be the only word of that general pronunciation that it
> messed up.  It does alright with horse.  As my last message I found that
> edge is still my default browser.  Short between the head sets.  Chrome
> has
> a big button labeled make this your default browser but Microsoft must
> have
> written an override.  How do I make chrome the default browser?
>
>
>
>
>
> 73 (Regards).
>
>
>
> Max K 4 O D S.
>
>
>
> I've Never Lost the Wonder.
>
>
>
> Antique Electronics Site:
> <http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/>
> http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/
>
>
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:24 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.
>
>
>
> Screen-reader designers shouldn't make editorial decisions about what a
> screen-reader reads that a program displays.  Unless this content isn't
> seen by sighted people, Windows should read it.
>
>
>
> The ispronounciation of source is the result of the synthesizer you are
> using and not NVDA.  Are you saying it mispronounces that sound in general
> or just in the word source?
>
>
>
> Gene
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: MAX <mailto:max@...>
>
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:07 PM
>
> To: NVDA <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>
> Subject: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.
>
>
>
> I recognize that these are small things that the developers may not think
> are important enough to fix.  Here goes anyway.  When I am opening a file
> in word I press control O and then tab twice.  Nvda says recently opened
> files.  You haven't opened any files recently.  This was not unexpected
> the
> first time I opened a file after installing nvda.  However, I use word
> every day and the message continues.  At first it was a laugh, then a
> smile
> and now it's I wish it wouldn't do that.  Another thing is the
> pronunciation   of s o u r c e.  In the united states source rhymes with
> horse not with farce as nvda pronounces it.  I have tried to fix it in the
> dictionary but when I replace the h in horse with an s it goes back to the
> rhyme with farce.   Well, I guess that's just the way it is.
>
>
> 73 (Regards).
>
> Max.  K 4 O DS.
>
> I've Never Lost the Wonder.
>
> Email: max@... <mailto:max@...>
>
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> Transistor site: http://www.angelfire.com/planet/funwithtransistors/
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Re: Anyone using Chatzilla or Mushclient?

 

hello, i using mush however best navigation mode in this application is object navigation.


Re: A couple of small annoyances.

Gene
 

This page has a lot of synthesizers listed.  The ones you pay for usually have demos.
 
If you are interested in Eloquence, important information is not on the page so ask here.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: MAX
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

I’m sorry for using so much bandwidth.  I think I have tamed this windows machine and have established chrome as my default browser.  The nvda help files work fine when used with chrome.  I don’t even have to move from the bullet to the text to make the link work.  I gather from the conversation that many other voice synthesizers  will work with nvda.  Is there a website that lists them.  It would be nice if they had a try before you buy option.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

I don't use Windows 10 which it appears you are.  Others can explain the procedure. 

 

As far as source is concerned, try sorce, with a c, though I doubt that will work.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

Source seems to be the only word of that general pronunciation that it messed up.  It does alright with horse.  As my last message I found that edge is still my default browser.  Short between the head sets.  Chrome has a big button labeled make this your default browser but Microsoft must have written an override.  How do I make chrome the default browser?

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

Screen-reader designers shouldn't make editorial decisions about what a screen-reader reads that a program displays.  Unless this content isn't seen by sighted people, Windows should read it. 

 

The ispronounciation of source is the result of the synthesizer you are using and not NVDA.  Are you saying it mispronounces that sound in general or just in the word source?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:07 PM

To: NVDA

Subject: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

I recognize that these are small things that the developers may not think
are important enough to fix.  Here goes anyway.  When I am opening a file
in word I press control O and then tab twice.  Nvda says recently opened
files.  You haven't opened any files recently.  This was not unexpected the
first time I opened a file after installing nvda.  However, I use word
every day and the message continues.  At first it was a laugh, then a smile
and now it's I wish it wouldn't do that.  Another thing is the
pronunciation   of s o u r c e.  In the united states source rhymes with
horse not with farce as nvda pronounces it.  I have tried to fix it in the
dictionary but when I replace the h in horse with an s it goes back to the
rhyme with farce.   Well, I guess that's just the way it is.


73 (Regards).

Max.  K 4 O DS.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

Email: max@...

Vacuum Tube  Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/
Transistor site: http://www.angelfire.com/planet/funwithtransistors/
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Re: A couple of small annoyances.

Gene
 

There is a specific Windows 10 way to make programs the default.  Someone will describe it.  Some or many programs can't be made the default by using the make default option in the programs themselves but they can be using the Windows 10 method.
 
Edge does certain very specific things but in general, the browser you make default will open when expected.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

I think, generally in windows 10 there are some places where Edge is used no
matter what you do, but I believe that you need to actually do as you always
could and set up default programs for certain file types, but the old way of
letting a browser do it on its own never did work in 10, at least for me, I
always had to go to the  list of  file types and  select a default program
if it was set as a Microsoft one. another reason I prefer windows 7.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "MAX" <max@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.


> Source seems to be the only word of that general pronunciation that it
> messed up.  It does alright with horse.  As my last message I found that
> edge is still my default browser.  Short between the head sets.  Chrome
> has
> a big button labeled make this your default browser but Microsoft must
> have
> written an override.  How do I make chrome the default browser?
>
>
>
>
>
> 73 (Regards).
>
>
>
> Max K 4 O D S.
>
>
>
> I've Never Lost the Wonder.
>
>
>
> Antique Electronics Site:
> <http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/>
> http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/
>
>
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:24 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.
>
>
>
> Screen-reader designers shouldn't make editorial decisions about what a
> screen-reader reads that a program displays.  Unless this content isn't
> seen by sighted people, Windows should read it.
>
>
>
> The ispronounciation of source is the result of the synthesizer you are
> using and not NVDA.  Are you saying it mispronounces that sound in general
> or just in the word source?
>
>
>
> Gene
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: MAX <mailto:max@...>
>
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:07 PM
>
> To: NVDA <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>
> Subject: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.
>
>
>
> I recognize that these are small things that the developers may not think
> are important enough to fix.  Here goes anyway.  When I am opening a file
> in word I press control O and then tab twice.  Nvda says recently opened
> files.  You haven't opened any files recently.  This was not unexpected
> the
> first time I opened a file after installing nvda.  However, I use word
> every day and the message continues.  At first it was a laugh, then a
> smile
> and now it's I wish it wouldn't do that.  Another thing is the
> pronunciation   of s o u r c e.  In the united states source rhymes with
> horse not with farce as nvda pronounces it.  I have tried to fix it in the
> dictionary but when I replace the h in horse with an s it goes back to the
> rhyme with farce.   Well, I guess that's just the way it is.
>
>
> 73 (Regards).
>
> Max.  K 4 O DS.
>
> I've Never Lost the Wonder.
>
> Email: max@... <mailto:max@...>
>
> Vacuum Tube  Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/
> Transistor site: http://www.angelfire.com/planet/funwithtransistors/
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