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Re: ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yuck! Don't remind me of IPA. I took a class in ita while ago I used a different keyboard that handled unicode utf8 and read char by char, but yeah. you are right, somethingn don't read well, if at all. I wish you luck in your IPA class.

On 26 Nov 2018, at 7:53, Brian Vogel wrote:

enes,

         What font are they using for the IPA?  There was a recent discussion of this in the JAWS group, Jaws and International Phonetic Alphabet.

          There are a limited number of IPA fonts that have the capability of being read character-by-character, which is what would be needed here.  It should be up to the instructor, to make sure that material is supplied in accessible format.  If the material is really, really extensive I have to say that it is sometimes easier to have a human reader, but not always.  It's always messy with the IPA since the character names are long and, if you get into diacritics, it gets even messier.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Issues using Flash Based Voicemail Website

Jonathan COHN
 

I am a bit surprised that this application is still using flash. I thought that most Flash applications had been  transitioned to HTML 5 at this point. I wonder if you uninstall flash if the site will offer an alternative, or if possibly there is a HTML only version.

 

My experience has been that the only object that is interactive and accessible to a screen reader in Flash is the button. Perhaps Golden Cursor might be able to help though.

 

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of "tim@..." <tim@...>
Reply-To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Friday, November 23, 2018 at 8:04 PM
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Issues using Flash Based Voicemail Website

 

I'm working with a volunteer who is blind to access an online voicemail system through my.jive.com. The website uses flash software and we're able to access the names of the voicemails using NVDA, but we're not able to click on the links to listen to them. 

We're using a HP Pavilion Notebook PC with Windows 10 Home Version 1803. 

Does anyone have experience with my.jive.com through Jive Communications? 
Has anyone resolved issues when issue flash on a website? 

Thanks for your help!
Tim 


Re: help items missing

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Brian,

Thanks for keeping with this issue.
I found that the files are indeed present under various language folders within the NVDA directory on the C: drive. They do exist in the "en" folder which is the folder I would expect NVDA to call when the language setting is set to "English".

I found that I had not actually selected English in the General settings of NVDA. I corrected this so that NVDA now expects English as the default language but still the three files are not being picked up by the Help menu in NVDA.


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 9:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing

Well the only way I can make such files not display is to break the browsers linking, ie the browser gets launched but the file its asked to open is either corrupted in the command or missing so you get a blank browser window.
I've tried several portable and installed copies and cannot duplicate the effect here on windows 7 , so maybe something else broke. However if you can open some html files etc then it seems odd that the problem is so selective unless its a llanguage of the files or some other obscure issue where the characters are not correct to match the file names. Have you searched for the files manually on the machine?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cearbhall O'Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "'Quentin Christensen'" <quentin@nvaccess.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing


Brian,

Logically, I would have agreed with you. But, I did remove NVDA completely
and then installed a fresh download of the whole NVDA package, installed it
and still the three files are missing!


Listed but failing to open (presumed Missing!):
* NVDA User Guide
* Commands quick Reference
* What's New

Present and functioning:
* NVDA Web Site
* Licence
* Contributors
* Welcome Dialog
* Check for Update
* About


Could someone tell me what the program file names for the three missing
items are? I could then check the NVDA folder and see if they are actually
present.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie


-----Original Message-----
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list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing

Have you tried a reinstall but keeping the settings? If its just files that
are missing and you know they were there in the first place, they have to be
in the installer, surely?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cearbhall O'Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing


Hi,



I was going to investigate the query on using the User manual when I
discovered that the User Manual command reference and what’s new items are
missing from my NVDA menu!

All the other items are present in the help menu.

I am using NVDA 2018.3.2 in Windows 10.



Any suggestions as to how to recover?



All the best,



Cearbhall



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Re: whatsapp desktop help

Darren Harris
 

Every time I try pressing any buttons it just jumps me straight into the edit field. Any way of stopping this?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: 26 November 2018 16:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] whatsapp desktop help

 

Yes it's possible.
Find the button after the edit box, press enter on it, record your message then press enter again.

Em 26/11/2018 14:10, Darren Harris via Groups.Io escreveu:

Hi all,

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Is there a way of recording voice messages on the desktop version of whatsapp? If so I can�t seem to find it.

 


Re: whatsapp desktop help

 

Yes it's possible.
Find the button after the edit box, press enter on it, record your message then press enter again.
Em 26/11/2018 14:10, Darren Harris via Groups.Io escreveu:

Hi all,

�

Is there a way of recording voice messages on the desktop version of whatsapp? If so I can�t seem to find it.



whatsapp desktop help

Darren Harris
 

Hi all,

 

Is there a way of recording voice messages on the desktop version of whatsapp? If so I can’t seem to find it.


Re: ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions

 

enes,

         What font are they using for the IPA?  There was a recent discussion of this in the JAWS group, Jaws and International Phonetic Alphabet.

          There are a limited number of IPA fonts that have the capability of being read character-by-character, which is what would be needed here.  It should be up to the instructor, to make sure that material is supplied in accessible format.  If the material is really, really extensive I have to say that it is sometimes easier to have a human reader, but not always.  It's always messy with the IPA since the character names are long and, if you get into diacritics, it gets even messier.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: some unsolved problems about NVDA

Chris
 

It may be a good idea to  contact the author of the add-on to see if anything can be done if it doesn’t work for you

 

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Raha Tehrani" <raha.tehrani1362@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:34 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] some unsolved problems about NVDA

 

 

Hi.

I have tried the addon provided by Mohmad Soleiman.

it won't function either.

NVDA keeps quiet while in the text editing area in VB in Microsoft

Visual studio 2010

I think the NVAccess team should think about a better solution.

I'd like my friends to test it.

just go to VB in Microsoft Visual studio. then, press f7 to enter the

text editing area. then as you arrow and navigate around. NVDA won't

say anything at all.

it gets sort of dumb. to give it a try, you can write an encryption.

like: "dim a as integer"

then as you navigate and arrow on the text you've just written, you'll

hear nothing from NVDA.

take care.

 

On 11/25/18, Chris via Groups.Io <chrismedley@...>

wrote:

> Theres actually a add-on for visual studio

> https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/visualStudio.en.html

> maybe that will help you 😃

> From: Raha Tehrani

> Sent: 25 November 2018 16:38

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] some unsolved problems about NVDA

> Dear all.

> as you all know, NVDA 2018.4 is on the way. at the moment, the

> developers' version is available to check for probable problems.

> there's a problem which I have seen with different versions of NVDA.

> it won't say anything in Visual Basic in Microsoft visual studio. I

> have tried it on Microsoft visual studio 2010. it's fine with the

> design area. but it keeps being completely silent while the text

> editor area is on the foreground. I have no account on Github. but if

> you have one, please let them know about this very significant

> problem, so that it can be fixed in the next release. it's kind of

> important. because you can't simply edit what you write within the

> text-editing environment. as a result, programming gets difficult on

> visual basic in microsoft visual studio 2010, using NVDA. please do

> tell the NVAccess team about this major problem. note: this is not the

> case with JAWS. it's fine with VB in MS Visual Studio 2010. you can

> easily move with design and text-editing area with jaws. therefore,

> you can easily edit what you've written in the text editor

> environment.

> let's keep in mind, this is not the only case.

> NVDA crashes as you let it get updated out of addon updator but

> mannually restart it.

> as you know, while using addon updater, it lets you know when there

> are addons to update, after installing, NVDA asks you to let it

> restart. if you choose yes, NVDA will restart, but after rebooting,

> you will see a couple of NVDAs on the system tray. if you press enter

> on one of them it will disappear. if you say no, and then you will

> mannually exit and reload NVDA, it will crash after a few seconds, and

> won't reload unless you sign out and sign in again.

> I should mention that all these cases have taken place in windows 10

> 18.9 64 bit latest update.

> thanks again.

> take care.

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: A random question, related to screen readers in general

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

and yet, my experience is much the opposite. Braille displays are partially funded by the government here, and many people have them. I have one, because I am a programming student, but even before that, I had a mobile Braille display. I can't really use braille and speech effectively, so I am in the habit of turning off the speech when my Braille display is connected, and just reading. Reading Braille is slower for me than listening, but it's much more accurate.

if I had to pay for it all on my own, I doubt I would be able to afford it, but since I have access, I have it and I use it.

consider that the cost of Braille displays is falling sharply. In 2007, the cost of a 40 cell Braille display was approximately $7,200 Canadian. Today the cost of a 40 cell Braille display is approximately $3,500 Canadian. In 2008, there were only two real microbe braille displays that I can think of. Today, there are at least 10 or 15 displays available, in the 20 cells and under form factor. Some of them cost as little as 6 or $800. Compare the cost of a braille knee at $650 Canadian to the cost of the classic Perkins brailler at $1,300 Canadian, and clearly, brailleme me comes out on top as the new learning tool for Braille.

The pundits who fear Braille because it makes them look or act blind, are losing the price argument. Braille is becoming more affordable by the day, and I think it will make a serious come back. You cannot tell a person that they need to go through life illiterate, it just isn't right.

On November 26, 2018 5:03:46 AM "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Of course like many surveys, it is just a result of those who did the
survey. I strongly suspect out of the general users the percentage is a lot
lower than this.
I have many friends who are nvda users not one of them has a Braille
display, and only a handful can read the code in any case.
I certainly cannot justify buying one. I can see how for many functions it
would be useful if you can read it, such as programming etc, but for general
use on an everyday basis by somebody just using applications, email and some
shopping or social media, much of the latter now done on mobiles, then
really its not needed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "James AUSTIN" <james.londonsw15@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A random question, related to screen readers in general


I think that the WebAIM Screen Readers surveys have this info

TC
James
On 25 Nov 2018, at 23:26, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

A Google Search for something like percent of screen-reader users use
Braille produced this as one result:
https://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey7/
If you search for the word Braille and repeat the search until you get to
the relevant content, you will find information about the number of users
of different screen-readers who use Braille output.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 4:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A random question, related to screen readers in general

Hello all


Does anyone know how I might find out what percentage of screen reader
users use braille displays?


Apologies for the random nature of this question,


--Sile





Re: ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Can you describe in detail what is supposed to be there and what you hear nvda saying? It may well be that some clever person here can get regular Expressions to rescue the situation. I don't know but your message does not actually tell us what the problem actually is. I assume that using all for the punctuation level does not resolve the problem for you?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 5:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions


hi,

So I am doing my masters in linguistics, and have a writing assignment about a topic in morphology. The problem is, the morphemes are transcribed in the international phonetic alphabet, and bracketed and for this reason nvda will not read them correctly. Has anyone else here done linguistics, and if so how did you solve this problem? I am afraid of failing the assignment not because of a lack of efort, but because I can't access the matterial correctly. Would a braille display help with this?




Re: NVDA 2018.4 beta 2 and Firefox

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

This may seem an odd question and I do not know who to aim it at.
What is the difference in link navigation on FF and waterfox between tab and k?
There is often some discrepancy on getting to the go to basket link on Amazon where k will work but tab will not
I just want to knoe if its..
a finger trouble at my end
B browser related
c Nvda related!
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 5:39 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2018.4 beta 2 and Firefox


Wow! Just wanted to say what a vast improvement NVDA 2018.4 beta 2 and FF is. Now this is the speed I’ve been waiting for since FF 57 came out almost a year ago. Thanks NV Access. I now use both JAWS and NVDA and JAWS 2019 at the moment was the winner in responsiveness. Now that’s changed in the new beta. Hope this will carry over to 2018.4 final build.

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Re: Please help me about Vocalizer

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

It is a server problem on our side...

We are trying to solve it as soon as possible!

Thanks and best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.

Às 03:23 de 26/11/2018, prem.translator@gmail.com escreveu:

Update my situation:
Things I have done until now.
1. Uninstall vocalizer driver and delete everything from %appdata%.
2. Download the driver and reinstall it.
3. At the activation, I get the following error.
"Error verifying credentials: Can not connect to Vocalizer for NVDA server. Please check if your internet connection is working."
4. I already contact IT department in my workplace regarding both errors. They don't know the address, IP or something like that of the Vocalizer for NVDA server, so they cannot do anything for now.
5. I sent an e-mail to Tiflotecnia regarding the problem.
What should I do next?
Thank you.


Re: Please help me about Vocalizer

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Well nothing, but your IT folk can surely run a trace on the IP address the licence uses to phone home and find out why its not getting through, the vendor can no doubt give you the address to give to your it folk. I'd have asked them if there had been any change over the time you were off, often the smoking gun approach can save a lot of time if they know what they are doing they can simply put an exception into a firewall for that address.
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----- Original Message -----
From: <prem.translator@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 3:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Please help me about Vocalizer


Update my situation:

Things I have done until now.
1. Uninstall vocalizer driver and delete everything from %appdata%.
2. Download the driver and reinstall it.
3. At the activation, I get the following error.

"Error verifying credentials: Can not connect to Vocalizer for NVDA server. Please check if your internet connection is working."

4. I already contact IT department in my workplace regarding both errors. They don't know the address, IP or something like that of the Vocalizer for NVDA server, so they cannot do anything for now.
5. I sent an e-mail to Tiflotecnia regarding the problem.

What should I do next?
Thank you.


Re: A random question, related to screen readers in general

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Of course like many surveys, it is just a result of those who did the survey. I strongly suspect out of the general users the percentage is a lot lower than this.
I have many friends who are nvda users not one of them has a Braille display, and only a handful can read the code in any case.
I certainly cannot justify buying one. I can see how for many functions it would be useful if you can read it, such as programming etc, but for general use on an everyday basis by somebody just using applications, email and some shopping or social media, much of the latter now done on mobiles, then really its not needed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "James AUSTIN" <james.londonsw15@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A random question, related to screen readers in general


I think that the WebAIM Screen Readers surveys have this info

TC
James
On 25 Nov 2018, at 23:26, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

A Google Search for something like percent of screen-reader users use Braille produced this as one result:
https://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey7/
If you search for the word Braille and repeat the search until you get to the relevant content, you will find information about the number of users of different screen-readers who use Braille output.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 4:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A random question, related to screen readers in general

Hello all


Does anyone know how I might find out what percentage of screen reader
users use braille displays?


Apologies for the random nature of this question,


--Sile





Re: some unsolved problems about NVDA

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Could it be language specific, IE could the windows language make a difference?
I do not know what language the windows is, but I've seen all sorts of odd things happen like this.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Raha Tehrani" <raha.tehrani1362@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] some unsolved problems about NVDA


Hi.
I have tried the addon provided by Mohmad Soleiman.
it won't function either.
NVDA keeps quiet while in the text editing area in VB in Microsoft
Visual studio 2010
I think the NVAccess team should think about a better solution.
I'd like my friends to test it.
just go to VB in Microsoft Visual studio. then, press f7 to enter the
text editing area. then as you arrow and navigate around. NVDA won't
say anything at all.
it gets sort of dumb. to give it a try, you can write an encryption.
like: "dim a as integer"
then as you navigate and arrow on the text you've just written, you'll
hear nothing from NVDA.
take care.

On 11/25/18, Chris via Groups.Io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
Theres actually a add-on for visual studio
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/visualStudio.en.html

maybe that will help you 😃



From: Raha Tehrani
Sent: 25 November 2018 16:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] some unsolved problems about NVDA

Dear all.
as you all know, NVDA 2018.4 is on the way. at the moment, the
developers' version is available to check for probable problems.
there's a problem which I have seen with different versions of NVDA.
it won't say anything in Visual Basic in Microsoft visual studio. I
have tried it on Microsoft visual studio 2010. it's fine with the
design area. but it keeps being completely silent while the text
editor area is on the foreground. I have no account on Github. but if
you have one, please let them know about this very significant
problem, so that it can be fixed in the next release. it's kind of
important. because you can't simply edit what you write within the
text-editing environment. as a result, programming gets difficult on
visual basic in microsoft visual studio 2010, using NVDA. please do
tell the NVAccess team about this major problem. note: this is not the
case with JAWS. it's fine with VB in MS Visual Studio 2010. you can
easily move with design and text-editing area with jaws. therefore,
you can easily edit what you've written in the text editor
environment.

let's keep in mind, this is not the only case.
NVDA crashes as you let it get updated out of addon updator but
mannually restart it.
as you know, while using addon updater, it lets you know when there
are addons to update, after installing, NVDA asks you to let it
restart. if you choose yes, NVDA will restart, but after rebooting,
you will see a couple of NVDAs on the system tray. if you press enter
on one of them it will disappear. if you say no, and then you will
mannually exit and reload NVDA, it will crash after a few seconds, and
won't reload unless you sign out and sign in again.
I should mention that all these cases have taken place in windows 10
18.9 64 bit latest update.
thanks again.
take care.








Re: some unsolved problems about NVDA

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Hi your restart issue. I see issues here as has been mentioned before and there is an issue on github for that though the number escapes me. It seems that only a few people experience it and it is due to windows holding on to a file while its trying to rename it and start a new log file. In Windows 7 this is fixed by pressing esc to remove the system error message and then manually restarting, though on odd occasions I have seen the two nvdas in the tray, but that is mainly due to the old version being forcibly terminated rather than gracefully exiting. In this case the new version that created the issue due to the log is what put the nvda in the tray of course.


I do not use Visual basic, but I really would encourage you to set up a github account and post your errors and problems there as for somebody else to do it who has no way to check if a fix works is a little long winded and hard to administer. Github is not that friendly but what I did is set it up to auto log in and have shortcuts for the new issue and search bits on nvdas area. I also get the email list.
One annoyance with that I find is that it flatly refuses to let me see messages I have either posted or tickets I raise on the email feed, though of course you can see them on the web site. also the person who designed the search engine on the site seems to have been away with the fairies at the time. Either that or its some kind of Mensa membership test, as normally I get results that are anything but intuitive!
Oh, I almost forgot, in their infinite wisdom they now insist on the up to date browser.
Too lazy to allow others I suspect.
Brian being controversial.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Raha Tehrani" <raha.tehrani1362@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 4:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] some unsolved problems about NVDA


Dear all.
as you all know, NVDA 2018.4 is on the way. at the moment, the
developers' version is available to check for probable problems.
there's a problem which I have seen with different versions of NVDA.
it won't say anything in Visual Basic in Microsoft visual studio. I
have tried it on Microsoft visual studio 2010. it's fine with the
design area. but it keeps being completely silent while the text
editor area is on the foreground. I have no account on Github. but if
you have one, please let them know about this very significant
problem, so that it can be fixed in the next release. it's kind of
important. because you can't simply edit what you write within the
text-editing environment. as a result, programming gets difficult on
visual basic in microsoft visual studio 2010, using NVDA. please do
tell the NVAccess team about this major problem. note: this is not the
case with JAWS. it's fine with VB in MS Visual Studio 2010. you can
easily move with design and text-editing area with jaws. therefore,
you can easily edit what you've written in the text editor
environment.

let's keep in mind, this is not the only case.
NVDA crashes as you let it get updated out of addon updator but
mannually restart it.
as you know, while using addon updater, it lets you know when there
are addons to update, after installing, NVDA asks you to let it
restart. if you choose yes, NVDA will restart, but after rebooting,
you will see a couple of NVDAs on the system tray. if you press enter
on one of them it will disappear. if you say no, and then you will
mannually exit and reload NVDA, it will crash after a few seconds, and
won't reload unless you sign out and sign in again.
I should mention that all these cases have taken place in windows 10
18.9 64 bit latest update.
thanks again.
take care.


Re: help items missing

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Well the only way I can make such files not display is to break the browsers linking, ie the browser gets launched but the file its asked to open is either corrupted in the command or missing so you get a blank browser window.
I've tried several portable and installed copies and cannot duplicate the effect here on windows 7 , so maybe something else broke. However if you can open some html files etc then it seems odd that the problem is so selective unless its a llanguage of the files or some other obscure issue where the characters are not correct to match the file names. Have you searched for the files manually on the machine?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cearbhall O'Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "'Quentin Christensen'" <quentin@nvaccess.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing


Brian,

Logically, I would have agreed with you. But, I did remove NVDA completely and then installed a fresh download of the whole NVDA package, installed it and still the three files are missing!


Listed but failing to open (presumed Missing!):
* NVDA User Guide
* Commands quick Reference
* What's New

Present and functioning:
* NVDA Web Site
* Licence
* Contributors
* Welcome Dialog
* Check for Update
* About


Could someone tell me what the program file names for the three missing items are? I could then check the NVDA folder and see if they are actually present.

All the best,

Cearbhall

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Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing

Have you tried a reinstall but keeping the settings? If its just files that are missing and you know they were there in the first place, they have to be in the installer, surely?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cearbhall O'Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing


Hi,



I was going to investigate the query on using the User manual when I
discovered that the User Manual command reference and what’s new items are
missing from my NVDA menu!

All the other items are present in the help menu.

I am using NVDA 2018.3.2 in Windows 10.



Any suggestions as to how to recover?



All the best,



Cearbhall



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Re: some unsolved problems about NVDA

Raha Tehrani
 

Hi.
I have tried the addon provided by Mohmad Soleiman.
it won't function either.
NVDA keeps quiet while in the text editing area in VB in Microsoft
Visual studio 2010
I think the NVAccess team should think about a better solution.
I'd like my friends to test it.
just go to VB in Microsoft Visual studio. then, press f7 to enter the
text editing area. then as you arrow and navigate around. NVDA won't
say anything at all.
it gets sort of dumb. to give it a try, you can write an encryption.
like: "dim a as integer"
then as you navigate and arrow on the text you've just written, you'll
hear nothing from NVDA.
take care.

On 11/25/18, Chris via Groups.Io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
Theres actually a add-on for visual studio
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/visualStudio.en.html

maybe that will help you 😃



From: Raha Tehrani
Sent: 25 November 2018 16:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] some unsolved problems about NVDA

Dear all.
as you all know, NVDA 2018.4 is on the way. at the moment, the
developers' version is available to check for probable problems.
there's a problem which I have seen with different versions of NVDA.
it won't say anything in Visual Basic in Microsoft visual studio. I
have tried it on Microsoft visual studio 2010. it's fine with the
design area. but it keeps being completely silent while the text
editor area is on the foreground. I have no account on Github. but if
you have one, please let them know about this very significant
problem, so that it can be fixed in the next release. it's kind of
important. because you can't simply edit what you write within the
text-editing environment. as a result, programming gets difficult on
visual basic in microsoft visual studio 2010, using NVDA. please do
tell the NVAccess team about this major problem. note: this is not the
case with JAWS. it's fine with VB in MS Visual Studio 2010. you can
easily move with design and text-editing area with jaws. therefore,
you can easily edit what you've written in the text editor
environment.

let's keep in mind, this is not the only case.
NVDA crashes as you let it get updated out of addon updator but
mannually restart it.
as you know, while using addon updater, it lets you know when there
are addons to update, after installing, NVDA asks you to let it
restart. if you choose yes, NVDA will restart, but after rebooting,
you will see a couple of NVDAs on the system tray. if you press enter
on one of them it will disappear. if you say no, and then you will
mannually exit and reload NVDA, it will crash after a few seconds, and
won't reload unless you sign out and sign in again.
I should mention that all these cases have taken place in windows 10
18.9 64 bit latest update.
thanks again.
take care.








Re: A random question, related to screen readers in general

James AUSTIN
 

I think that the WebAIM Screen Readers surveys  have this info

TC
James


On 25 Nov 2018, at 23:26, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

A Google Search for something like percent of screen-reader users use Braille produced this as one result:
If you search for the word Braille and repeat the search until you get to the relevant content, you will find information about the number of users of different screen-readers who use Braille output.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 4:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] A random question, related to screen readers in general

Hello all


Does anyone know how I might find out what percentage of screen reader
users use braille displays?


Apologies for the random nature of this question,


--Sile





Need Seka Braille driver for use with NVDA

Lino Morales
 

Hi. I don’t understand German. On the NVDA user guide for this display it takes me to a German site if the driver exists on that site, can anyone who speaks German help me find the download link to the driver please? Thanks.

 

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