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Re: NVDA Speech Dict: Match pattern after line of certain pattern

Luke Davis
 

William wrote:

If I want to configure NVDA speech dict to match pattern that occur after certain patter of line, is it possible?
No.

While regular expressions are capable of this, NVDA is not, because of how it processes dictionaries.

I wrote a test file:

test1
test2
test3

And did a say-all on it.
This, from the log, is how NVDA processes that event:

Input: kb(desktop):NVDA+downArrow
Speaking [CallbackCommand(name=say-all:lineReached), 'test1\r\n', CallbackCommand(name=say-all:lineReached), 'test2\r\n', CallbackCommand(name=say-all:lineReached), 'test3\r\n', CallbackCommand(name=say-all:lineReached)]

Ignoring the stuff not in single quotes, you can see that each line is handled, and therefore processed, separately.
It is little different than using your arrow key to read the text line by line.

You could commission someone to write an add-on for you to do this if you really need it, but NVDA can't do it by default.

Luke

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Re: Windows magnifier add on for nvda

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

I forgot to add in the link to the page where the add on is at present it can be found at https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/windowsMagnifier.en.html <https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/windowsMagnifier.en.html>

Gene nz

On 16/04/2021 11:09 am, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi guys


I have been asked about this add on for nvda.


The question is which operating system will it work on windows 8 or 10? I was also wondering if the add on works quite well why is it not in the stable main page is it still been worked on?

Has any one else used it? and does it work good on there machine? I have not got enough sight to see the screen but it is for a person with low vision.


Gene nz






Windows magnifier add on for nvda

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi guys


I have been asked about this add on for nvda.


The question is which operating system will it work on windows 8 or 10? I was also wondering if the add on works quite well why is it not in the stable main page is it still been worked on?

Has any one else used it? and does it work good on there machine? I have not got enough sight to see the screen but it is for a person with low vision.


Gene nz


Checking out a transcription editor with NVDA

Janet Brandly
 

Hello all,

 

I am looking for someone who would be willing to dig into a transcription editor with NVDA. I cannot get the text/edit box to work properly-I cannot read and edit what I have written. There are keyboard shortcuts to operate the player. If someone is interested, I will send you the link to the practice files. This is to prepare for a transcription test for a company I would like to work with. Please le me know and provide your private email address.

 

Thank you,

 

Janet


Re: reporting word number automatically.

farhan israk
 

Thanks to all.


On Thu, 15 Apr 2021, 10:25 pm Brian Vogel, <britechguy@...> wrote:
And as a side note, ALT+R,W, suggested by Ms. Byrne, and CTRL+SHIFT+G, suggested by Mr. Moxey, both bring up the same Word Count dialog.

The difference is the first throws focus to the review ribbon, and activates the Word Count option, and once you exit the Word Count dialog the Review Ribbon is what's still active.  The second just invokes the Word Count dialog no matter what ribbon happens to be on display and doesn't change it.  When you close afer CTRL+SHIFT+G whatever ribbon had been active before hitting that command remains active.  Using either still leaves your insertion point in the document wherever it had been immediately prior to your having invoked the dialog.
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Re: reading pdf files

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

You are absolutely right Brian, this likely has more to do with the
document in question than with NVDA. I've had this happen as well with
Acrobat Reader. As I don't deal with PDF files all that often, I can't
think of when it happened last time, but I'm pretty sure I have some
files on my computer where this happens.

On 4/15/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
This is another query where way more information is needed before any
potential assistant could try to replicate and comment:
1. Reading program being used.
2. PDF file itself, if accessible/downloadable to the general public
are the two items that are absolutely essential.

As Luke Davis has observed, you (any you) really need to try reading the PDF
in question using another reading program, preferably two additional reading
programs, just to determine whether the behavior is consistent across all
reading programs you try.  If it is, the probability is that there is an
issue with the PDF itself.

NVDA really has little to do, directly, with the "mechanics" of a PDF file.
Its encoding is outside the scope of NVDA and the screen reader justs
requests that the given file be read and takes what the PDF reading program
hands to it.
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Re: NVDA Speech Dict: Match pattern after line of certain pattern

 

Subject update for clarity.
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Re: NVDA Speech Dict: Match pattern after line of certain pattern

 

Trying to match across line breaks is tricky, but it can be done.  The question is, given your example, if there were more items listed on individual lines below "An apple" would you be looking for those, too?

It's much easier to discuss this if you give an actual example of the data you're trying to work on, taken straight from its source, and can describe what it is that you are hoping will happen when processing it.
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Re: reporting word number automatically.

 

And as a side note, ALT+R,W, suggested by Ms. Byrne, and CTRL+SHIFT+G, suggested by Mr. Moxey, both bring up the same Word Count dialog.

The difference is the first throws focus to the review ribbon, and activates the Word Count option, and once you exit the Word Count dialog the Review Ribbon is what's still active.  The second just invokes the Word Count dialog no matter what ribbon happens to be on display and doesn't change it.  When you close afer CTRL+SHIFT+G whatever ribbon had been active before hitting that command remains active.  Using either still leaves your insertion point in the document wherever it had been immediately prior to your having invoked the dialog.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: reading pdf files

 

This is another query where way more information is needed before any potential assistant could try to replicate and comment:
1. Reading program being used.
2. PDF file itself, if accessible/downloadable to the general public
are the two items that are absolutely essential.

As Luke Davis has observed, you (any you) really need to try reading the PDF in question using another reading program, preferably two additional reading programs, just to determine whether the behavior is consistent across all reading programs you try.  If it is, the probability is that there is an issue with the PDF itself.

NVDA really has little to do, directly, with the "mechanics" of a PDF file.  Its encoding is outside the scope of NVDA and the screen reader justs requests that the given file be read and takes what the PDF reading program hands to it.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


NVDA Speech Dict: Match pattern after line of certain pattern

William
 

Hello,


If I want to configure NVDA speech dict to match pattern that occur after certain patter of line, is it possible?


For example, if I wanna match An apple in the below example, which I only wnat to match the line of An apple that occur after the first line (

Items to be sold:)

.


Items to be sold:

An apple


Thanks,

William


Re: reading pdf files

 

i confirm this.
i observed this firefox, did not test with other programs.

On 4/15/21, Luke Davis <luke@newanswertech.com> wrote:
What program were you using to read the file?
Acrobat reader, Edge, some browser plugin, what?

Where did the PDF come from, and is it public so we can review it? If so,
where
in the PDF does this start to happen?

It's probably some encoding problem with the PDF--I find that very technical

user manuals (I'm looking at you, Furman) often have similar very short line

problems.

Luke
UMIT ERDEM Yigitoglu wrote:

Today I tried to read an pdf file line by line. However it reads character
by character or or word by word in parts of the file. It happened to me
before
but today I wanted to get advise about it. I don't think problem doesn't
occur in a braile display. I don't know why does it happen or how to solve
it.




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Re: reporting word number automatically.

Ann Byrne
 

In Word, press alt+r, then w.

At 04:06 AM 4/15/2021, you wrote:

Hi Farhan



Further to Quentin’s great suggestions, try the Word shortcut Control + Shift + G (for golf) to bring up the document statistics. Press escape when done to return to your place in the document.



Hope this is useful.



All the best.



Ben



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 2:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reporting word number automatically.



There isn't an NVDA setting for that. Theoretically it could be possible with an add-on, but I can't think of one which does it.



There are a couple of things you can do to regularly check the word count, which is displayed in the status bar:

1) Press F6 to jump to the status bar. There are a number of other values here, so next press the right arrow to move to word count. Press SHIFT+F6 to move back to the document. Next time you press F6, the focus will jump straight to word count.



2) Press NVDA+end (NVDA+shift+end if using laptop keyboard layout). This reads the status bar. As noted, there are a number of other pieces of information here. While you can't reorder them, you can remove things you don't want. Again, press F6 to move to the status bar then the applications key to open the context menu. Press the down arrow to move through the list and spacebar to check and uncheck any items. Note that the state of the checkbox isn't reported. This is a known issue, but for now you'll just have to remember what is and isn't checked. If you would like to comment on the issue, it is this one: <https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5996>https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5996



Regards


Quentin.



On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 2:47 AM farhan israk <<mailto:fahim.net.2014@gmail.com>fahim.net.2014@gmail.com> wrote:

I am using latest nvda and microsoft word 2016. Is it possible to change settings so that nvda will announce word numbers automatically after each 5 or 10 words?




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Re: reporting word number automatically.

benmoxey@...
 

Hi Farhan

 

Further to Quentin’s great suggestions, try the Word shortcut Control + Shift + G (for golf) to bring up the document statistics. Press escape when done to return to your place in the document.

 

Hope this is useful.

 

All the best.

 

Ben

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 2:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reporting word number automatically.

 

There isn't an NVDA setting for that.  Theoretically it could be possible with an add-on, but I can't think of one which does it.

 

There are a couple of things you can do to regularly check the word count, which is displayed in the status bar:

1) Press F6 to jump to the status bar.  There are a number of other values here, so next press the right arrow to move to word count.  Press SHIFT+F6 to move back to the document.  Next time you press F6, the focus will jump straight to word count.

 

2) Press NVDA+end (NVDA+shift+end if using laptop keyboard layout).  This reads the status bar.  As noted, there are a number of other pieces of information here.  While you can't reorder them, you can remove things you don't want.  Again, press F6 to move to the status bar then the applications key to open the context menu.  Press the down arrow to move through the list and spacebar to check and uncheck any items.  Note that the state of the checkbox isn't reported.  This is a known issue, but for now you'll just have to remember what is and isn't checked.  If you would like to comment on the issue, it is this one: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5996

 

Regards


Quentin.

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 2:47 AM farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@...> wrote:

I am using latest nvda and microsoft word 2016. Is it possible to change settings so that nvda will announce word numbers automatically after each 5 or 10 words?


 

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Re: reading pdf files

Luke Davis
 

What program were you using to read the file?
Acrobat reader, Edge, some browser plugin, what?

Where did the PDF come from, and is it public so we can review it? If so, where in the PDF does this start to happen?

It's probably some encoding problem with the PDF--I find that very technical user manuals (I'm looking at you, Furman) often have similar very short line problems.

Luke
UMIT ERDEM Yigitoglu wrote:

Today I tried to read an pdf file line by line. However it reads character by character or or word by word in parts of the file. It happened to me before
but today I wanted to get advise about it. I don't think problem doesn't occur in a braile display. I don't know why does it happen or how to solve it.


reading pdf files

UMIT ERDEM Yigitoglu
 

Hello friends,
Today I tried to read an pdf file line by line. However it reads character by character or or word by word in parts of the file. It happened to me before but today I wanted to get advise about it. I don't think problem doesn't occur in a braile display. I don't know why does it happen or how to solve it.
Best regards 


Re: Admin's Note Re: New NVDA user who's looking for Eloquence #adminnotice

g melconian <gmelconian619@...>
 

Do agree with the admins of the list.  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 9:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Admin's Note Re: New NVDA user who's looking for Eloquence #adminnotice

 

Hello everyone,

I am coming to you as an unhappy, upset owner. I very rarely come to you in this state, but the reputation of this list is on the line. It is not acceptable, ever, to discuss or hint at illegal versions of software on this list. It is not acceptable to hint at emailing such copies of illegal software on this list. A number of messages were provided on legal methods for obtaining Eloquence by purchase, and the thread should have ended there. Any future discussion regarding emailing illegal copies of Eloquence are uncalled for, and go to the heart of the reputation of NVAccess, NVDA, and our community, as well as violating the Groups.io terms of service.

Any future hint at sending or receiving of illegal Eloquence or any other software on this list will be met with a revocation of posting privileges. This is a serious issue, and I will treat it as such.

Should you have questions, you are not welcome to respond on list. Please send your queries to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io so that we can discuss it off list, and have a cuppa tea. If you are unhappy with this message and wish to leave, please do so, do not announce your departure, and know that you will be welcome back should you choose to return. This thread is now locked.


Admin's Note Re: New NVDA user who's looking for Eloquence #adminnotice

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello everyone,

I am coming to you as an unhappy, upset owner. I very rarely come to you in this state, but the reputation of this list is on the line. It is not acceptable, ever, to discuss or hint at illegal versions of software on this list. It is not acceptable to hint at emailing such copies of illegal software on this list. A number of messages were provided on legal methods for obtaining Eloquence by purchase, and the thread should have ended there. Any future discussion regarding emailing illegal copies of Eloquence are uncalled for, and go to the heart of the reputation of NVAccess, NVDA, and our community, as well as violating the Groups.io terms of service.

Any future hint at sending or receiving of illegal Eloquence or any other software on this list will be met with a revocation of posting privileges. This is a serious issue, and I will treat it as such.

Should you have questions, you are not welcome to respond on list. Please send your queries to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io so that we can discuss it off list, and have a cuppa tea. If you are unhappy with this message and wish to leave, please do so, do not announce your departure, and know that you will be welcome back should you choose to return. This thread is now locked.


locked Re: New NVDA user who's looking for Eloquence

Quentin Christensen
 

Discussion of the illegal add-on is not allowed on the list, and I would suggest Chris, that also goes for chatter about emailing each other offlist about distributing it...

What I would say on-list though is that there are several very good reasons why you should consider NOT using the illegal add-on:

- It's not legal.  Nuance own the right to Eloquence and they can set the price for it.  They have decided to charge a per-license fee for it.  For those who purchase Jaws, part of the cost of Jaws goes towards that fee.  For those who use NVDA who would like Eloquence, you can purchase it through CodeFactory.  If you don't like the cost, then use OneCore or eSpeak-NG or find another cheap or free synth (and if you do, please let me know about it, so we can include it on the Extra Voices page: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/ExtraVoices )

- It's not supported and not stable. Even if you're willing to steal software, the fact the illegal add-on invariably causes stability and performance issues is a very compelling reason not to use it.

As noted in the first point, do please check out https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/ExtraVoices for a list of additional voices (both commercial and free) you might consider using with NVDA.  And if you do find something else which isn't listed on there, please do let us know so we can add it there and others can find it too.

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 1:23 PM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
If no one paid for it, its an illegal version.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Maria Reyes
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 10:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New NVDA user who's looking for Eloquence

Hi, My friend said she got her eloquence from a friend of hers and he said
that it was the JAWS Eloquence voice? is that the version we're not allowed
to talk about on the list?


want to talk about all aspects of blindness? Join the blind chatroom list by
sending an email to blind-chatroom-request@... with subscribe in
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On Apr 13, 2021, at 10:37 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>
wrote:




Hi Maria,

Everyone has pretty much answered your question - actually although Code
Factory was mentioned, the link wasn't given, you can find the page here:
https://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/

The other thing I was going to add was if you are a new NVDA user and have
come to us from Jaws - firstly welcome! - and secondly, you might find the
guide to switching from Jaws to NVDA helpful:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA

Otherwise, if you encounter any other questions or issues in getting setup
and running with NVDA, please do let us know.

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 6:27 AM Maria Reyes <sassyblindgirl@...>
wrote:


Hi I got a new computer and just installed NVDA! How do I get Eloquence?











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